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How to Not Pay Taxes on Crypto Gains?

I invested $20,000 in January 2021 in SOL when it was $4. I...
vibrant obsidian people who are hurt pozpig
  10/22/21
ill wash your coins for you for a 5% fee. DM me if youre int...
Rebellious Factory Reset Button Home
  10/22/21
lol
hairless mediation
  10/22/21
Interested. I'll reach out when the time comes ;)
vibrant obsidian people who are hurt pozpig
  10/22/21
You know where to find me. Respect.
Rebellious Factory Reset Button Home
  10/22/21
I dunno man. Maybe fly to some foreign country and exchange...
Talking Primrose Shrine
  10/22/21
Good call.
vibrant obsidian people who are hurt pozpig
  10/22/21
keep transferring it? esp to a ledger wallet, not investment...
hairless mediation
  10/22/21
How would transferring it to a ledger wallet help?
vibrant obsidian people who are hurt pozpig
  10/22/21
if you keep tranferring enough times then all your crypto wi...
Maroon sneaky criminal property
  10/22/21
Makes sense.
vibrant obsidian people who are hurt pozpig
  10/22/21
Lol
mauve razzle milk
  10/22/21
i dont know im gay i just feel there was something odd abt m...
hairless mediation
  10/22/21
crypto.com debit card, cash out $19,999/year by buying shit....
Curious Pea-brained Field
  10/22/21
The IRS can't track this?
vibrant obsidian people who are hurt pozpig
  10/22/21
Most of the exchanges follow the 200/20k rule. I just stay u...
Curious Pea-brained Field
  10/22/21
wouldn't the IRS ask how you can afford the things you're bu...
Talking Primrose Shrine
  10/22/21
it's just replacing what you'd ordinarily spend cash on. mea...
Curious Pea-brained Field
  10/22/21
(Agent Jenkins)
red insecure library
  10/22/21
Shit... I've been found out.
vibrant obsidian people who are hurt pozpig
  10/22/21
...
Maroon sneaky criminal property
  10/22/21
lol you idiot. You aren’t supposed to talk about this....
Pearl Hairraiser Point
  10/22/21
There's nothing illegal with respect to trying to "avoi...
vibrant obsidian people who are hurt pozpig
  10/22/21
Move to PR
dashing halford school cafeteria
  10/22/21
I think you needed to have moved prior to making the gains.....
vibrant obsidian people who are hurt pozpig
  10/22/21
The gains aren't realized until you sell
Talking Primrose Shrine
  10/22/21
Move to PR for the required amount of time and then realize ...
dashing halford school cafeteria
  10/22/21
PR is 180 million if you're rich. just saying.
well-lubricated sex offender
  10/22/21
I'd like to be XoXoJ91pPyBv6PhN4uLX4aRdJL8hzdE9MJXw96yT2N...
dashing halford school cafeteria
  10/22/21
Odds op is some lefty faggot pumo? 8 ball says most likely...
gay nowag
  10/22/21
...
motley clear ratface theater stage
  10/22/21
I'm as right as they come, brother.
vibrant obsidian people who are hurt pozpig
  10/22/21
You can avoid state taxes by moving to a state that has a 0%...
Smoky church building
  10/22/21
I think you're able to take out loans on some crypto sites a...
Rough-skinned hominid incel
  10/22/21
You can do that using Aave, but you have to over-collaterali...
vibrant obsidian people who are hurt pozpig
  10/22/21
if i'm right and the point is to not actualize capital gains...
well-lubricated sex offender
  10/22/21
this feels right. i can't say for sure. i want to say liqu...
well-lubricated sex offender
  10/22/21
singapore has no capital gains taxes.
Burgundy ceo
  10/22/21
cr, many other tax free jurisdictions exist too. of course, ...
Flesh sound barrier wagecucks
  10/22/21
Don’t sell. Borrow against the value of your crypto ho...
Flickering becky dingle berry
  10/22/21
how do i pay back the loan?
motley clear ratface theater stage
  10/22/21
Income from other sources or crypto goes up more and you bor...
Flickering becky dingle berry
  10/22/21
send me the keys. ill open a joint account you can draw from...
topaz pontificating sandwich generalized bond
  10/22/21
what is your social security number?
Chestnut soul-stirring gas station philosopher-king
  10/22/21
just ruin your life for an extra 150K
Godawful puce depressive
  10/22/21
my parents took a lifetime to save up that much money
Chestnut soul-stirring gas station philosopher-king
  10/22/21
I cashed out 7M worth of crypto in 2019. Talked to my 100% d...
Drunken rigor resort
  10/22/21


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Date: October 22nd, 2021 12:21 PM
Author: vibrant obsidian people who are hurt pozpig

I invested $20,000 in January 2021 in SOL when it was $4. I bought the SOL on HotBit and then transferred it to TrustWallet.

I'm a U.S.-based wage-cuck and earn around $230,000 per year as an in-house attorney.

I'd like to avoid taxes on my gains. What is the best way to do so?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43313771)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 12:23 PM
Author: Rebellious Factory Reset Button Home

ill wash your coins for you for a 5% fee. DM me if youre interested. (massive kimchi premium right now so youd actually be making money in the wash)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43313785)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 12:24 PM
Author: hairless mediation

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43313794)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 12:25 PM
Author: vibrant obsidian people who are hurt pozpig

Interested. I'll reach out when the time comes ;)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43313802)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 12:26 PM
Author: Rebellious Factory Reset Button Home

You know where to find me. Respect.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43313807)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 12:23 PM
Author: Talking Primrose Shrine

I dunno man. Maybe fly to some foreign country and exchange the physical wallet for physical gold

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43313786)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 12:25 PM
Author: vibrant obsidian people who are hurt pozpig

Good call.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43313800)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 12:24 PM
Author: hairless mediation

keep transferring it? esp to a ledger wallet, not investment advice

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43313789)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 12:26 PM
Author: vibrant obsidian people who are hurt pozpig

How would transferring it to a ledger wallet help?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43313805)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 12:27 PM
Author: Maroon sneaky criminal property

if you keep tranferring enough times then all your crypto will be wiped out by transfer fees and you won't have this problem anymore

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43313818)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 12:31 PM
Author: vibrant obsidian people who are hurt pozpig

Makes sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43313837)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 12:42 PM
Author: mauve razzle milk

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43313883)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 12:36 PM
Author: hairless mediation

i dont know im gay i just feel there was something odd abt making ledger accounts, if u have ur shit in solflare, phantom etc u need to make new wallet for ledger

i dunno, of course its gay so i dunno`



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43313857)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 12:24 PM
Author: Curious Pea-brained Field

crypto.com debit card, cash out $19,999/year by buying shit. one for you, one for your wife or whatever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43313792)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 12:26 PM
Author: vibrant obsidian people who are hurt pozpig

The IRS can't track this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43313806)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 1:03 PM
Author: Curious Pea-brained Field

Most of the exchanges follow the 200/20k rule. I just stay under both thresholds to be safe.

The IRS might be coming up with ingenious ways to track crypto but honestly ime they operate based on what people give them. They like their "forms."

``

Federal Reporting

Will I receive any tax documents from Gemini?

Gemini takes the position that it is a Third Party Settlement Organization (“TPSO”) under Section 6050W of the Internal Revenue Code and must file IRS Forms 1099-K accordingly for certain transactions settled on its platform. We will continue to evaluate this assessment and update our client base if Gemini’s interpretations or IRS guidance changes.**

Gemini will deliver Forms 1099-K to Gemini users who meet BOTH of the following conditions:

The Digital Asset-for-USD sales on the exchange exceed 200 transactions during the calendar year, AND

Total sales proceeds from all Digital Asset-for-USD sales exceed $20,000 during the calendar year.

If your account has met both of the thresholds above, you will receive a Form 1099-K from Gemini electronically at the end of January. An identical copy of the account’s Form 1099-K will be filed with the IRS.

If you were expecting to receive a Form 1099-K and did not, it’s likely that you have only met ONE of the conditions above, not both.

Note: If you live in Arkansas, the District of Columbia, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Mississippi, Missouri, New Jersey, Virginia or Vermont, you may be subject to different reporting thresholds; please see the “State Reporting” section at the bottom of this page for more information.

``

https://support.gemini.com/hc/en-us/articles/360000032643-What-Do-I-Need-To-Know-About-Cryptocurrency-Tax-Reporting-

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43313989)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 12:41 PM
Author: Talking Primrose Shrine

wouldn't the IRS ask how you can afford the things you're buying?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43313875)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 1:01 PM
Author: Curious Pea-brained Field

it's just replacing what you'd ordinarily spend cash on. meanwhile you can $tack cash or move it into stonks/crypto

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43313981)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 12:25 PM
Author: red insecure library

(Agent Jenkins)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43313799)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 12:26 PM
Author: vibrant obsidian people who are hurt pozpig

Shit... I've been found out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43313809)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 12:25 PM
Author: Maroon sneaky criminal property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43313803)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 12:27 PM
Author: Pearl Hairraiser Point

lol you idiot. You aren’t supposed to talk about this. Why not call the IRS and ask them while you’re at it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43313816)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 12:31 PM
Author: vibrant obsidian people who are hurt pozpig

There's nothing illegal with respect to trying to "avoid" taxes... I'll pay what I legally owe, but tax avoidance is a legal maneuver.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43313834)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 12:30 PM
Author: dashing halford school cafeteria

Move to PR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43313833)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 12:32 PM
Author: vibrant obsidian people who are hurt pozpig

I think you needed to have moved prior to making the gains... and you need to have lived there for several years...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43313843)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 12:42 PM
Author: Talking Primrose Shrine

The gains aren't realized until you sell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43313880)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 1:33 PM
Author: dashing halford school cafeteria

Move to PR for the required amount of time and then realize the gains*

Thank

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43314197)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 12:47 PM
Author: well-lubricated sex offender

PR is 180 million if you're rich.

just saying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43313903)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 1:33 PM
Author: dashing halford school cafeteria

I'd like to be

XoXoJ91pPyBv6PhN4uLX4aRdJL8hzdE9MJXw96yT2Nb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43314198)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 12:35 PM
Author: gay nowag

Odds op is some lefty faggot pumo? 8 ball says most likely

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43313855)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 12:35 PM
Author: motley clear ratface theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43313856)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 12:48 PM
Author: vibrant obsidian people who are hurt pozpig

I'm as right as they come, brother.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43313907)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 12:37 PM
Author: Smoky church building

You can avoid state taxes by moving to a state that has a 0% capital gains tax rate before you sell.

Not sure there is a legal way to avoid federal taxes. Puerto Rico works only with respect to taxes on your gains AFTER you move.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43313862)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 12:46 PM
Author: Rough-skinned hominid incel

I think you're able to take out loans on some crypto sites and the loans are tax free? Not sure tho haven't really researched

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43313896)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 12:49 PM
Author: vibrant obsidian people who are hurt pozpig

You can do that using Aave, but you have to over-collateralize, so I'm not sure what the point is...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43313911)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 1:32 PM
Author: well-lubricated sex offender

if i'm right and the point is to not actualize capital gains, the overcollateralization still allows you access to the money without activating the gains. assuming growth, you have access to those gains without having a capital gains event with low risk of liquidization. depending on loan terms, it make not make sense to do this but if you're paying back on terms that make sense or don't give a shit about a liquidization based on the spread, go for it.

NFA and insert circular 230.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43314193)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 12:51 PM
Author: well-lubricated sex offender

this feels right. i can't say for sure. i want to say liquity allows this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43313916)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 12:56 PM
Author: Burgundy ceo

singapore has no capital gains taxes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43313955)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 1:07 PM
Author: Flesh sound barrier wagecucks

cr, many other tax free jurisdictions exist too. of course, you'd still have to pay taxes on your gains up until now though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43314018)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 12:56 PM
Author: Flickering becky dingle berry

Don’t sell. Borrow against the value of your crypto holdings. When you die, your kids get stepped up basis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43313958)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 1:06 PM
Author: motley clear ratface theater stage

how do i pay back the loan?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43314005)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 1:28 PM
Author: Flickering becky dingle berry

Income from other sources or crypto goes up more and you borrow again

Buy | Borrow | Die

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43314172)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 1:01 PM
Author: topaz pontificating sandwich generalized bond

send me the keys. ill open a joint account you can draw from. i may only remember to charge the occasional vacation to the account.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43313984)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 1:30 PM
Author: Chestnut soul-stirring gas station philosopher-king

what is your social security number?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43314182)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 1:59 PM
Author: Godawful puce depressive

just ruin your life for an extra 150K

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43314324)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 2:00 PM
Author: Chestnut soul-stirring gas station philosopher-king

my parents took a lifetime to save up that much money

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43314330)



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Date: October 22nd, 2021 2:05 PM
Author: Drunken rigor resort

I cashed out 7M worth of crypto in 2019. Talked to my 100% dodgy tax guy who told me to just man up and pay the tax….which I did. I was taxed at long term gains rate - I wouldn’t cash out with short term gains.

Cashed out and paid all cash for a house + invested the rest in traditional assets.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4947522&forum_id=2#43314370)