Explain to me like I'm 5 why the Electoral College is necessary
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Date: October 23rd, 2021 9:11 AM Author: Fragrant indigo resort
I can understand why it was created in the 1780s. Everyone lived in one state their entire lives, traveling to another state took a day's time and states had real "identities" that needed to be preserved. That is, Florida had rights vis. a vis Alabama and so forth (yes I know these weren't part of the 13 colonies).
But now people aren't really citizens of state s, they're just Americans. Everyone moves around and you can travel from state to state in a few hours. I have lived infive states in my lifetime; was I a different person in each of those states? Did I deserve my vote to be weighted more heavily based on which state I was in?
1 vote per person is a hallowed principle in most people's minds; explain what is so important as to make us violate that principle in favor of a system that gives people more of a vote based on where they choose to plant their feet come voting day. (I I live in Alaska in January my vote is worth a shitton but if I move to Arizona by November that worth is divided in half).
And for those go think the state's ARE desperate sovereigns deserving of some consideration why isn't the Senate enough?
Iplease let's keep this chill and civil. Tyia
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4948034&forum_id=2#43317901) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2021 9:39 AM Author: Fragrant indigo resort
I love it when shitcons make this argument.
"Because education is hilariously diluted now and every dumbfuck has a diversity degree."
Uh, so how fucking dumb do you have to be NOT to be educated? (i.e. to be a Republican)?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4948034&forum_id=2#43318006) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2021 9:43 AM Author: Fragrant indigo resort
Why do none of these things you have desperately blathered out come close to answering what I asked you?: "Why, if degrees are so easy to get, are Republicans not smart enough to get them?"
"Men are only 40% of college enrollment now."
OK?
"And you're an even bigger idiot for not recognizing college is a scam."
So you don't have a BA? LOL @ you
"Lol at your zher being a surgeon. You don't even understand the history of the electoral college and iq is hereditary."
Apparently neither do you because you haven't managed to make one post in its defense.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4948034&forum_id=2#43318032) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2021 9:46 AM Author: Fragrant indigo resort
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nah white plumbers on avg probably have higher SAT/standardized scores than these people and you know its true"
LOL @ this flame.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4948034&forum_id=2#43318047) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2021 9:28 AM Author: Fragrant indigo resort
Yes. I don't have a 5 year old yet but my kid always wants to know the "why" behind everything.
His answer would be "Why do we need a union?"
or
"Why do we need the electoral college to have a union?"
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4948034&forum_id=2#43317962) |
Date: October 23rd, 2021 9:40 AM Author: Razzmatazz parlour
Because we want the government to be representative of cultures as well as people. If we only represented people, urban areas would control all government and ways of life we want to preserve — agricultural etc — would be immediately wiped out.
Same argument for gerrymandering, fwiw.
For a five year old, I’d say that the men who created our system wanted to preserve important values and one man one vote was just *one* of a few important values — not the only one.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4948034&forum_id=2#43318011) |
Date: October 23rd, 2021 9:48 AM Author: Fragrant indigo resort
Wow I have xo Republicans arguing that anyone with a BA is a loser and grad degrees are worthless because they lead to working at Starbucks (the xo story).
*brushes hands*
My work is done here.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4948034&forum_id=2#43318057) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2021 9:55 AM Author: Ungodly casino
I do too and from a higher ranked institution because I'm higher IQ than you
and guess what? i dont have this outsized sense of pride from it because i'm *actually* intelligent
it makes so much sense you went to some shitheel school. every single poast itt is you just coming off as grossly insecure about your own intelligence and status.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4948034&forum_id=2#43318122) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2021 10:07 AM Author: Galvanic national
we all now know you're a third world retard inbred ape, but if you went to top 50 non ivy you didn't go to cornell,
perhaps the hiv hsa invaded the brain
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4948034&forum_id=2#43318190) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2021 10:01 AM Author: Fragrant indigo resort
So what?
All winners are Dems. That's what matters.
You=loser.
Have a nice day!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4948034&forum_id=2#43318161) |
Date: October 23rd, 2021 9:48 AM Author: Galvanic national
great point, but related q -
why did a third world monkey ape decide to come to a country w/ such a broken nonsensical system!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4948034&forum_id=2#43318060) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2021 10:08 AM Author: Galvanic national
100%
he learned so much studying poli sci w/ a minor in international relations, he's now here to ask those tough questions he knows we can't answer!!!!
lmao at how fucking deluded these leftards truly are, not evenworth serious engagement
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4948034&forum_id=2#43318197) |
Date: October 23rd, 2021 9:50 AM Author: kink-friendly range
I’ll give you a couple reasons:
1). Pure democracies tend to be the most oppressive form of government, which is why the founding fathers took so many precautions against it. The Melian Dialogues were discussed heavily during the debates on how to form the US government. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Melos#The_Melian_Dialogue
2). The electoral college guarantees the representation of independent-minded people who may not agree with mainstream thinking (this is the liberals primary objection to it). Not everyone in this country focuses on making money and living in the perfect crime free suburb.
3). The idea that a vote in Wyoming is worth more than a vote in California is a long-debunked canard.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4948034&forum_id=2#43318074) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2021 10:32 AM Author: kink-friendly range
The fallacy lies in extending the logic that, because the population per elector in California is higher than Wyoming, the Wyoming vote is worth more. However, that is an overstated indicator because California has a greater percentage of the population that is ineligible to vote (non-citizens, under 18, etc.). There are still more voters per elector in California than Wyoming, but that margin is significantly lessened vs the numbers you see quoted in articles.
Secondly, the margin of victory in most presidential elections is large enough that a swing in the electoral votes of small states like Wyoming or North Dakota, even collectively, won’t change the outcome of the election. This renders the votes there basically worthless. The voters of Wyoming get to allocate a 3-elector block, which will have no impact on the election. California voters get to allocate a 55-elector block, which absolutely will impact the election. No one campaigns in Wyoming/Idaho/Utah/South Dakota, and when they do occasionally make a layover there, it’s to discuss issues that appeal to voters in California/New York/Texas/Florida.
Lastly, once the election is over, because those small states have so little political power, the issues of the voters there are ignored. Despite being “over represented” the populations of these small states usually have policies forced upon them by voters in California and New York (I.e. wild horses in Nevada, wolves in Wyoming, national monuments in Utah, etc.), rather than vice versa, which is regularly implied by political opinion writers. The issues cared about by voters in California, New York, Texas, and Florida are the issues that dominate the political processes.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4948034&forum_id=2#43318300)
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Date: October 23rd, 2021 10:23 AM Author: Sickened Boyish Halford
I pretty much gleaned this from high school history
No one ever gaf about "states" as entities, it's about empowering those individuals who happen to live disproportionately within lower-population territories.
If the constitution were written in 2021, and silicon valley/manhattan were located in some low-population territory, it would be written to empower that territory somehow. It's the same reason why Wyoming has 2 senators.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4948034&forum_id=2#43318275) |
Date: October 23rd, 2021 1:52 PM Author: Poppy pungent kitty cat
we need the electoral college because it limits the ability of mentally ill voters to turn america into san francisco, portland, and philadelphia. i don’t particularly care if this isn’t a principled or logical stand.
the constitution in this respect isn’t a suicide pact. abolishing the electoral college would turn it into one
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4948034&forum_id=2#43318990) |
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