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Want to write a long-read: NYC Culture becoming most conformist, obedient in USA

That's a wild cultural shift.
Bateful party of the first part
  10/28/21
Well, not everybody
Fishy partner
  10/28/21
Interesting, give us a little background here
buff puppy
  10/28/21
covid exposed that the dominant culture in nyc is one of the...
Bateful party of the first part
  10/28/21
I think pop culture is due for a revolution of sorts-- every...
buff puppy
  10/28/21
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Spruce Skinny Woman
  10/28/21
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Passionate new version
  10/28/21
this has been the case for years
maroon personal credit line
  10/28/21
This has been a ubiquitous con talking point since 1920.
Arousing Elite Roast Beef
  10/28/21
Nah
buff puppy
  10/28/21
dont worry u invented that thought bro
Crimson sex offender
  10/28/21
Don't think he's claiming to but it's def a more recent deve...
180 Nursing Home
  10/28/21
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Dun feces turdskin
  10/28/21
Nope
180 Nursing Home
  10/28/21
Yep. I remember the same shit in the 80's and 90's when they...
Mint odious native generalized bond
  10/28/21
That is not what I am saying. It is different from Hollywood...
buff puppy
  10/28/21
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Dun feces turdskin
  10/28/21
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supple sweet tailpipe love of her life
  10/28/21
in retrospect, "counterculture" should always be h...
Bateful party of the first part
  10/28/21
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Green Goal In Life
  10/28/21
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Cobalt resort
  10/28/21
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big clown pit
  10/28/21
!!!
Dun feces turdskin
  10/28/21
i'm gonna kinda disagree on this, but only kinda. i think t...
Carnelian excitant fanboi
  10/28/21
youre the one poster I would defer to on ny cultural issues ...
Bateful party of the first part
  10/28/21
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Dun feces turdskin
  10/29/21
the rise of women, who are deeply conformist
Nighttime Bistre Dopamine Mediation
  10/28/21
NYC "culture" is now predominantly about getting y...
gold indecent stock car
  10/28/21
Where are you getting your info?
cocky pozpig factory reset button
  10/28/21
grew up in mfh in the 80s and 90s. talking with family still...
Bateful party of the first part
  10/28/21
So you’re basing this entire view on how much of the p...
cocky pozpig factory reset button
  10/28/21
ill put it like this. when I was a kid the street meaning of...
Bateful party of the first part
  10/28/21
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Twinkling office
  10/28/21
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Coral aggressive piazza
  10/28/21
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supple sweet tailpipe love of her life
  10/28/21
Gentrification has been ongoing for decades, news at 11.
cocky pozpig factory reset button
  10/28/21
...
Mint odious native generalized bond
  10/28/21
Go away rudolph
multi-colored water buffalo kitchen
  10/28/21
You're right but I think you're missing the forest for the t...
Twinkling office
  10/28/21
...
Dun feces turdskin
  10/28/21
Wrong framing. White Christian America has been undermined f...
irradiated sexy temple elastic band
  10/28/21
...
Dun feces turdskin
  10/28/21
NYC is back to normal basically. At the garden the other day...
fragrant stag film becky
  10/28/21
Everyone is still wearing masks on the subway. Until that en...
Coral aggressive piazza
  10/28/21
people in nyc should be forced to wear masks at all times re...
Crimson sex offender
  10/28/21
Question is whose normal. And Im not even glorifying NYC 198...
Bateful party of the first part
  10/28/21
...
Dun feces turdskin
  10/28/21
You're completely full of shit Obeezy, just stfu and go away...
beady-eyed round eye
  10/28/21
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180 Nursing Home
  10/28/21
(Dork raging online)
fragrant stag film becky
  10/28/21
Yeah and everyone there over the age of 12 had to show someo...
Jade aphrodisiac place of business fat ankles
  10/28/21
But Obeezy says everything is back to normal
beady-eyed round eye
  10/28/21
Liberty city is dead. Caption it with an image of a broken s...
Curious zippy ticket booth
  10/28/21


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Date: October 28th, 2021 10:59 AM
Author: Bateful party of the first part

That's a wild cultural shift.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4951279&forum_id=2#43343563)



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Date: October 28th, 2021 11:00 AM
Author: Fishy partner

Well, not everybody

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4951279&forum_id=2#43343568)



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Date: October 28th, 2021 11:01 AM
Author: buff puppy

Interesting, give us a little background here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4951279&forum_id=2#43343571)



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Date: October 28th, 2021 11:08 AM
Author: Bateful party of the first part

covid exposed that the dominant culture in nyc is one of the most authority-respecting, shame-enforcing, rule-worshipping of our entire nation.

bracketing whether that is a good or bad way to be, it's contrary to the history of NYC from at least the draft riots to the "ungovernable" culture of the late 20th C.

NEW YORK FUCKING CITY is more obedient and compliant than little bible belt towns

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4951279&forum_id=2#43343618)



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Date: October 28th, 2021 11:14 AM
Author: buff puppy

I think pop culture is due for a revolution of sorts-- everything on the radio, Netflix, etc. represents itself as subversive of some monolithic white male culture that doesn't exist anymore. You aren't some rebel by singing about how you hate Donald Trump. You aren't subverting the powers-that-be by showing two males kissing. THAT IS THE DOMINANT CULTURE. The subversives are on the right now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4951279&forum_id=2#43343647)



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Date: October 28th, 2021 11:17 AM
Author: Spruce Skinny Woman



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Date: October 28th, 2021 11:20 AM
Author: Passionate new version



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Date: October 28th, 2021 11:20 AM
Author: maroon personal credit line

this has been the case for years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4951279&forum_id=2#43343667)



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Date: October 28th, 2021 11:20 AM
Author: Arousing Elite Roast Beef

This has been a ubiquitous con talking point since 1920.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4951279&forum_id=2#43343671)



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Date: October 28th, 2021 11:28 AM
Author: buff puppy

Nah

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4951279&forum_id=2#43343716)



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Date: October 28th, 2021 11:41 AM
Author: Crimson sex offender

dont worry u invented that thought bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4951279&forum_id=2#43343786)



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Date: October 28th, 2021 12:57 PM
Author: 180 Nursing Home

Don't think he's claiming to but it's def a more recent development

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4951279&forum_id=2#43344209)



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Date: October 28th, 2021 7:01 PM
Author: Dun feces turdskin



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Date: October 28th, 2021 12:57 PM
Author: 180 Nursing Home

Nope

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4951279&forum_id=2#43344212)



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Date: October 28th, 2021 1:09 PM
Author: Mint odious native generalized bond

Yep. I remember the same shit in the 80's and 90's when they complained about tv, music and hollywood being controlled by libs etc. You're not subversive, you're just appealing to the value systems of old fogies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4951279&forum_id=2#43344273)



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Date: October 28th, 2021 1:17 PM
Author: buff puppy

That is not what I am saying. It is different from Hollywood being controlled by libs. That was always the case. It is more the issue of subversiveness. Like the late 70s you had a LA, dopesmoking, cokesnorting, excess to the excess music scene. Hippies, nerds, and gays dominated. Disco, singer-songwriters, etc. Nobody thinks they were conservative-- they were a lot like today's shitlibs-- peace and love, swinging, drugs. This produced the backlash of punks, who-- at least a lot of them-- were NOT shitlib in any conventional sense. Johnny Rotten roared against abortion for goddsakes. The punk scene was full of all sorts of weird transgressive stuff-- e.g., the Nazi aesthetic was big.

What I am saying is we are ripe for another movement like that. Stand--up comics who LOOK to offend the dominant culture of "diversity". Musicians who don't make AdCouncil spots for the vaccine. etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4951279&forum_id=2#43344318)



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Date: October 28th, 2021 7:02 PM
Author: Dun feces turdskin



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Date: October 28th, 2021 11:23 AM
Author: supple sweet tailpipe love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4951279&forum_id=2#43343685)



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Date: October 28th, 2021 11:33 AM
Author: Bateful party of the first part

in retrospect, "counterculture" should always be highly suspect, as it has to pass the gauntlet of corporations. Whether it's hippies or punk rock or gangsta rap or MTV or whatever.

It's usually branded "youth culture" with the insinuation that youth are independent from mainstream adult values. This unravels when you see that teenagers are an invented concept and didnt exist before the 1940s. Teens / youths / rebels are only just a weaponized demographic that have been created to destabilize families.

There never was a counterculture that came from youth. It came from culture-makers that wanted your kids.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4951279&forum_id=2#43343747)



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Date: October 28th, 2021 12:45 PM
Author: Green Goal In Life



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Date: October 28th, 2021 12:45 PM
Author: Cobalt resort



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Date: October 28th, 2021 1:03 PM
Author: big clown pit

🤔

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4951279&forum_id=2#43344240)



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Date: October 28th, 2021 6:45 PM
Author: Dun feces turdskin

!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4951279&forum_id=2#43346194)



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Date: October 28th, 2021 12:53 PM
Author: Carnelian excitant fanboi

i'm gonna kinda disagree on this, but only kinda. i think there is a segment of the population--very mfh and recently brooklyn based--that are like this and have an outsized voice in the mainstream.

after that, you float around the bronx, queens, most parts of brooklyn and definitely staten island they really truly dgaf about lockdowns or any of that shit.

with that said, it's one thing to keep your bodega open during all this. it's another to protest en masse against boot to your neck rule which they didn't do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4951279&forum_id=2#43344198)



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Date: October 28th, 2021 1:00 PM
Author: Bateful party of the first part

youre the one poster I would defer to on ny cultural issues and probably the only one who can pass easily through the strata you describe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4951279&forum_id=2#43344223)



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Date: October 29th, 2021 7:38 PM
Author: Dun feces turdskin



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Date: October 28th, 2021 11:17 AM
Author: Nighttime Bistre Dopamine Mediation

the rise of women, who are deeply conformist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4951279&forum_id=2#43343662)



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Date: October 28th, 2021 11:30 AM
Author: gold indecent stock car

NYC "culture" is now predominantly about getting your ass kicked on the subway for being a racist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4951279&forum_id=2#43343724)



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Date: October 28th, 2021 11:34 AM
Author: cocky pozpig factory reset button

Where are you getting your info?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4951279&forum_id=2#43343752)



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Date: October 28th, 2021 11:36 AM
Author: Bateful party of the first part

grew up in mfh in the 80s and 90s. talking with family still there now and marveling at how everything went from a certain pride in the chaos of da big city to bewilderment that hillbillies dont just do what theyre told

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4951279&forum_id=2#43343762)



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Date: October 28th, 2021 11:43 AM
Author: cocky pozpig factory reset button

So you’re basing this entire view on how much of the population vaccinated or wears masks or what is your metric?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4951279&forum_id=2#43343801)



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Date: October 28th, 2021 11:54 AM
Author: Bateful party of the first part

ill put it like this. when I was a kid the street meaning of saying someone was from brooklyn was that they might punch you. any group of brooklynites gathered would call out "brooklynnn!!" to communicate that they were going to do whatever the fuck they wanted. if it rang out at a school dance or something, it meant a brawl or a riot could erupt.

the most lasting image of brooklyn I have now is of cell phone videos capturing worried women and twinky men calling down from their windows to chastise people for leaving their homes.

i dont know what you call that metric

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4951279&forum_id=2#43343872)



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Date: October 28th, 2021 12:33 PM
Author: Twinkling office



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Date: October 28th, 2021 12:46 PM
Author: Coral aggressive piazza



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Date: October 28th, 2021 1:02 PM
Author: supple sweet tailpipe love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4951279&forum_id=2#43344235)



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Date: October 28th, 2021 1:10 PM
Author: cocky pozpig factory reset button

Gentrification has been ongoing for decades, news at 11.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4951279&forum_id=2#43344277)



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Date: October 28th, 2021 1:10 PM
Author: Mint odious native generalized bond



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Date: October 28th, 2021 1:02 PM
Author: multi-colored water buffalo kitchen

Go away rudolph

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4951279&forum_id=2#43344229)



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Date: October 28th, 2021 11:53 AM
Author: Twinkling office

You're right but I think you're missing the forest for the trees. It's not just about NYC.

Liberals -- forever the counterculture, the "fuck all authority" bunch, have become the "follow the rules!" group. This is bizarre.

Some other poaster summed this up well when they mentioned Rage Against the Machine requiring vaccinations at their shows. The band that sings "Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me" and is named RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE is now basically singing "Heck yes, I'll do what you tell me!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4951279&forum_id=2#43343865)



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Date: October 28th, 2021 7:06 PM
Author: Dun feces turdskin



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Date: October 28th, 2021 12:43 PM
Author: irradiated sexy temple elastic band

Wrong framing. White Christian America has been undermined for over a century, and lately the degree of subversion has passed the tipping point.

Conservatives are not "the new counter-culture". They're the new kulaks and they're getting purged from every major institution in the country.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4951279&forum_id=2#43344148)



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Date: October 28th, 2021 7:06 PM
Author: Dun feces turdskin



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Date: October 28th, 2021 12:48 PM
Author: fragrant stag film becky

NYC is back to normal basically. At the garden the other day and not a mask in sight just happy new Yorkers enjoying the blueshirts and some beers.

Meanwhile you raged online.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4951279&forum_id=2#43344170)



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Date: October 28th, 2021 12:51 PM
Author: Coral aggressive piazza

Everyone is still wearing masks on the subway. Until that ends, we aren’t back to normal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4951279&forum_id=2#43344186)



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Date: October 28th, 2021 12:57 PM
Author: Crimson sex offender

people in nyc should be forced to wear masks at all times regardless of whether or not there is a pandemic. bunch of 200lb rats need to be prevented from spreading their slop everywhere

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4951279&forum_id=2#43344215)



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Date: October 28th, 2021 12:52 PM
Author: Bateful party of the first part

Question is whose normal. And Im not even glorifying NYC 1988, but it wasn't sports fans drinking craft beers.

If youve seen the change, you don't need proof it happened. If you havent, I dont think proof would suffice for you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4951279&forum_id=2#43344190)



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Date: October 28th, 2021 7:06 PM
Author: Dun feces turdskin



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Date: October 28th, 2021 12:56 PM
Author: beady-eyed round eye

You're completely full of shit Obeezy, just stfu and go away

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4951279&forum_id=2#43344206)



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Date: October 28th, 2021 12:58 PM
Author: 180 Nursing Home



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Date: October 28th, 2021 6:23 PM
Author: fragrant stag film becky

(Dork raging online)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4951279&forum_id=2#43346050)



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Date: October 28th, 2021 1:46 PM
Author: Jade aphrodisiac place of business fat ankles

Yeah and everyone there over the age of 12 had to show someone a personal health record indicating they were vaccinated. And a government-issued ID with a matching name on it. (See below from the MSG website.) New Yorkers in the 80s would have given a big fuck you to this kind of lunacy.

https://www.msg.com/madison-square-garden/faqs

COVID-19 Vaccination Requirements and Ticketing Information

Are there vaccination requirements for attending an event?

Yes, per government mandates for attending indoor events at venues such as The Garden, all guests age 12 and older will need to provide proof of COVID-19 vaccination, which means you’ve had at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine. Guests may also show proof of full COVID-19 vaccination, meaning the day of your event is at least 14 days after your final vaccine dose, which, depending on the type of vaccine, may be one dose or two. Fully vaccinated guests are not required to wear a mask. Everyone else will be required to wear a mask while in The Garden, except while actively eating or drinking.

Please note that some events have their own requirements, including that all guests age 12 and older be fully vaccinated against COVID-19 or children ages 5 to 11 provide proof of a negative COVID-19 test. In addition to this, government mandates, venue protocols and event requirements are subject to change. Therefore, it is important for you to check your event page on our website to confirm details of your specific event. View calendar.

Please note that due to NBA protocols, at New York Knicks games there are additional requirements and restrictions for some ticket holders with seats located in close proximity to the court. Click here to learn more.

Please also note that at New York Knicks and New York Rangers games there may be additional requirements and restrictions for some ticket holders in specific seat locations which will be communicated directly to those ticket buyers.

Proof of COVID-19 vaccination or negative test result needs to be directly from the healthcare provider that performed the vaccination or test, and can be displayed:

Through a physical copy

A photo on your smartphone

Using a mobile app. We ask that you download and log in to apps in advance so you have access to your proof before arriving at the venue.

For all options, anyone 18 years or older will need to also present a government-issued ID such as driver’s license or passport. Those younger than 18 may use a government-issued ID, birth certificate, social security card, school ID, or locally-issued ID.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4951279&forum_id=2#43344486)



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Date: October 28th, 2021 6:46 PM
Author: beady-eyed round eye

But Obeezy says everything is back to normal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4951279&forum_id=2#43346198)



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Date: October 28th, 2021 1:20 PM
Author: Curious zippy ticket booth

Liberty city is dead. Caption it with an image of a broken statute of liberty. As a nyc native who recently moved to Florida, this makes me sad. But I'm also relieved to be out of that authoritarian hellhole. Long live the free state of Florida.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4951279&forum_id=2#43344343)