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NYT: White parents/schookids in Minneapolis are getting fucked

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Research shows that de facto school segregation is one major...
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Date: November 27th, 2021 6:33 AM
Author: Onyx Dragon Base

that's the obvious subtext here. libs, you're thots?

In Minneapolis Schools, White Families Are Asked to Help Do the Integrating

In a citywide overhaul, a beloved Black high school was rezoned to include white students from a richer neighborhood. It has been hard for everyone.

MINNEAPOLIS — When Mauri Friestleben learned that Minneapolis was rolling out a new school integration plan — and that the school she led, a predominantly Black, low-income high school, would soon include white students from some of the wealthiest neighborhoods in town — she looked around and proudly considered all that her school had to offer.

The hallways at North Community High are a tapestry of blue and white, the school colors, and the mascot, a polar bear, seems to roar around every corner. The curriculum had been updated to expand access to advanced placement courses: U.S. history, physics, art and design. The school had a new athletic field, and on the first floor, a radio studio.

But in some phone conversations with potential new families, Ms. Friestleben, the principal, sensed deep skepticism.

Parents peppered her with questions. Exactly how many A.P. courses did her school offer? Was Spanish the only language option? Would their children be safe walking from the bus? Some even wondered how she had gotten their number and asked her not to call again.

Ms. Friestleben, a mixed-race woman who identifies as Black, knew that her school had its challenges, including a history of struggling enrollment and low test scores. But she was working hard to serve the needs of her students and had little interest in adjusting her focus to woo white families.

“At times,” she said, “it was demeaning and humiliating.”

Minneapolis, among the most segregated school districts in the country, with one of the widest racial academic gaps, is in the midst of a sweeping plan to overhaul and integrate its schools. And unlike previous desegregation efforts, which typically required children of color to travel to white schools, Minneapolis officials are asking white families to help do the integrating — a newer approach being embraced by a small group of urban districts across the country.

“Everyone wants equity as long as it doesn’t inconvenience them,” said Eric Moore, senior officer for accountability, research and equity for Minneapolis Public Schools, where about a third of students — some 10,000 children of different races — were assigned to new schools this year.

The changes included redrawing school zones, including for North. “This plan is saying, everyone is going to be equally inconvenienced because we need to collectively address the underachievement of our students of color,” Mr. Moore added.

Research shows that de facto school segregation is one major reason that America’s education system is so unequal, and that racially and socioeconomically diverse schools can benefit all students.

But decades after Brown v. Board of Education, the dream of integration has remained just that — a dream.

Today, two in five Black and Latino students in the United States attend schools where more than 90 percent of students are children of color, while one in five white students goes to a school where more than 90 percent of students look like them, according to the Century Foundation, a progressive think tank.

If there is anywhere white families might embrace an integration plan, a likely candidate would be Minneapolis, which became the epicenter of the nation’s reckoning with racism after George Floyd’s murder last year. The city is 60 percent white and a bastion of liberalism, with a voting population that supported President Biden by 80 percentage points or more in some areas. In majority white neighborhoods, where homes can sell for $500,000 to $1 million, lawn signs proclaim “Black Lives Matter” and “All Are Welcome Here.”

But an up close look at one school, North High, and the cross section of families who traverse the new attendance zone, shows the complicated realities of school integration, even in a city with the political willpower to make it happen.

For students, parents and educators, the push to integrate was not just a policy decision, but a deeply personal challenge: What would white families do, when forced to wrestle with their own progressive values? Would the plan bring positive changes for Black families at North High, or as some feared, would they lose claim over the school that they loved?

What does the promise of school integration look like today?

For Many Black Families, ‘Integration Never Comes Up’

Since arriving at North High in 2019, Ms. Friestleben had not thought much about integration.

Her philosophy was grounded in affirming the students who already walked her halls: children from mostly low-income and working-class backgrounds; about 90 percent Black and nearly 100 percent students of color.

“I make a commitment that every child that walks into any doors that I’m leading, that they will feel like royalty,” said Ms. Friestleben, who personally greets students at the doors each morning. At 8:30 a.m., she delivers announcements, reminding students that they are brave, beautiful, strong and loved.

“As a society,” she added, “we have subconsciously rolled the red carpet out for white children for generations upon generations. So it’s my challenge and my honor to do that for Black children, to give Black children the same experience of, ‘you are the center of my world.’”

Research has shown that integration can deliver benefits for all children.

For example, Black children exposed to desegregation after Brown v. Board of Education experienced higher educational achievement, higher annual earnings as adults, a lower likelihood of incarceration and better health outcomes, according to longitudinal work by the economist Rucker Johnson of the University of California, Berkeley. The gains came at no cost to the educational achievement of white students.

Other research has documented how racially and economically diverse schools can benefit all students, including white children, by reducing biases and promoting skills like critical thinking.

Racially segregated schools, on the other hand, are associated with larger gaps in student performance, because they tend to concentrate students of color in high poverty environments, according to a recent paper analyzing all public school districts.

“There is not a single school district in the U.S. that is even moderately segregated that does not have a large achievement gap,” said Sean Reardon, the lead author on the paper and the director of the Educational Opportunity Project at Stanford University.

The situation is especially stark in Minneapolis, a deeply segregated city. The district of 30,500 students is diverse: about 41 percent white, 35 percent Black, 14 percent Hispanic and 9 percent Asian or Native American.

But white students test four to five grade levels ahead of Black, Hispanic and Native students, and two and a half grade levels ahead of Asian students, making the district’s disparities one of the worst in the country, according to the Educational Opportunity Project. A large gap also exists between poor and nonpoor students.

North High is a reflection of those inequalities.

More than half of 10th graders who completed testing did not meet state standards in reading in 2019, and performance in math was worse, with more than 80 percent of 11th graders failing proficiency standards. About 65 percent of students graduate within four years, compared with 84 percent statewide.

Enrollment has also been a problem. Over the years, many families have disenrolled from Minneapolis Public Schools, including families of color on the north side.

Some chose charter schools. Others went to the suburbs, as part of an unusual option in Minnesota. Families do not need to live in the school district and can enroll elsewhere if they are accepted and provide their own transportation. Statewide, 10 percent of students use this policy.

Facing these cascading challenges, Minneapolis school officials decided on an overhaul. They assigned families to new school zones, redrawing boundaries to take socioeconomic diversity — and as a consequence, racial diversity — into account. North High, for instance, now dips farther south, encapsulating a swath of wealthier, whiter neighborhoods.

The plan also moved magnet schools from whiter neighborhoods to more diverse, centralized locations.

The changes were projected to minimize high poverty and highly segregated schools, while redistributing resources. For example, district officials say $11 million in transportation savings annually was reinvested to pay for elementary school literacy coaches, music for fifth graders and other services. At North High, the changes are intended to bring more students — and more funding.

This, activists and researchers say, is perhaps the most powerful promise of integration: shared resources.

“I don’t think a Black kid sitting next to a white kid means that all of a sudden a Black kid is going to have higher academic outcomes,” said Khulia Pringle, a local education activist who is Black. She said she was initially skeptical of the plan but was persuaded, in part, because of what she saw as an investment in communities of color.

“It’s the reality that wherever white people are comes with resources,” she said.

At North High, though, integration was not something that most students and families had been asking for. By and large, they liked their school, which is known for serving multiple generations of north side families. At football games, fans wear sweatshirts that say “Polar for Life.”

“North High is the pride of north side,” said Lynne Crockett, a 1962 graduate and president of the alumni association, who keeps two polar bear stuffed animals on display in her living room. Ms. Crockett, who is Black, is among those who worry that the changes could threaten North High’s identity.

That sentiment was echoed in research by the Black Education Research Collective at Teachers College, Columbia University, which surveyed hundreds of Black families and educators nationally this year.

“Integration never comes up,” said the group’s founding director, Sonya Douglass Horsford. Instead, she said, Black families often express other priorities: “I want my child to be safe. I don’t want them to be harassed. I don’t want them to be discriminated against. I’d like the curriculum to reflect them.”

What families at North High have long wanted is more investment.

The school’s sprawling, brick building is decades old. There have been reports of rodents and problems with the drinking water. Low enrollment led to cutbacks, and at one point, threatened closure.

But in recent years, there have been positive changes.

The school has a dynamic principal in Ms. Friestleben, who is working hard to boost enrollment. Now, the offerings include nine advanced placement courses and new sports, including soccer. There is even talk about a multimillion dollar renovation; architectural renderings show a trim quad and soaring windows.

Kelly Jackson wants all of this and more for the students.

The president of the parent-teacher association and a frequent presence at the school who is known as “Mama Jackson,” she has sent all three of her children to North, including her daughter, Ramiyah, 16, who is busy taking A.P. classes in English and U.S. history, acting as a football team manager and serving on the student council.

But Ms. Jackson couldn’t help but ask: Why now?

To her, some changes, like the planned renovation, signaled gentrification. Even as North High opened up to white families, some Black families, like hers, were reassigned to a different school, though North’s low enrollment meant that, for now, they could apply to stay.

“I feel like they want to start implementing these things because they are getting white students,” Ms. Jackson said. “A lot of white families, when they say it, they fight for it, they want it, and they get it. But why does it take us 15 years?”

To Attend or Not: White Families Face a Decision

For white and more affluent parents, the new school plan also landed with a thud.

In southern neighborhoods newly rezoned to North, real estate agents began to hear from families selling their homes. At one point, images circulated on social media of a sign outside a coveted elementary school, where the students, 60 percent white, would eventually be assigned to North.

The sign depicted a tombstone. “R.I.P.,” it read. “This will destroy our community.”

One big challenge for the district was that families could still choose charter or suburban schools. In one part of the new zone, which includes some of the more affluent neighborhoods, just 15 percent of new families assigned to North decided to attend, according to district figures.

Parents evaluating the school at a glance would have seen some concerning statistics: High crime rates in the area, low test scores, a 1 out of 10 rating on GreatSchools.org.

At the same time, the view of places like North is complicated by research that indicates white, advantaged parents may use the number of other white, advantaged families attending as an indicator of school quality. And while test scores are one important measure, they are also closely tied to income and can be imperfect windows into a student’s full experience.

“We aren’t as bad as people make us seem,” said Alexandria McNeill, a 17-year-old senior at North, who is Black. Through the rezoning, she said she hoped other families would come to view her community more like she did: a place of home and belonging, a launching pad for college, and what she hopes will be a career in communications.

But for some new families, attending North felt like a gamble.

Heather Wulfsberg, who is white, had intended to send her daughter, Isabella, 14, to Southwest High, a racially diverse but majority white public school that is a 10-minute bus ride from their home.

The school offers an international baccalaureate program, as well as Japanese, which Isabella studied in middle school. Isabella’s older brother, 18, is a senior there, and Ms. Wulfsberg envisioned her children attending together, her son helping Isabella navigate freshman year.

So Ms. Wulfsberg appealed the reassignment to North, citing her son’s attendance at Southwest, and her daughter’s interest in Japanese. (North offers one language, Spanish.)

She was also concerned about transportation. There was no direct bus, and Isabella’s commute could take up to 55 minutes. She would also have to walk from the bus stop to school through an area where frequent gun shots are a problem.

But Ms. Wulfsberg, who described herself as a lifelong Democrat, felt there was little room to explore her concerns without being misinterpreted or offending other families. Conversations on a Facebook page for parents turned tense.

One comment, in particular, stuck with her.

“They were like, ‘Your cover is, you want academics for your kids, and underneath this all, you really are racist,’” she recalled. “It’s a very scary feeling to do a self-examination of yourself and think, ‘Am I?’”

She paused, reflecting. “But I don’t believe I am. I really don’t.”

The family decided to send Isabella to a suburban school with top academic ratings. Students are about 80 percent white and about 4 percent economically disadvantaged.

The school, 25 minutes away, has no bus route — Ms. Wulfsberg drives her daughter — and there is no Japanese program. But the school is international baccalaureate certified, offers 29 A.P. courses and has American sign language, which excited Isabella. And Isabella knew at least a few other students there.

Ultimately, Ms. Wulfsberg deemed her daughter’s high school years too high stakes to experiment with. “My motivation,” she said, “is to get the best education I can for my kid and have her launch into the world as successfully as she can.”

Christine Conner, another white mother who considers herself progressive, also wrestled with her choice. When she sent her daughter to a suburban school for similar reasons, she had trouble meeting the eye of a neighbor, who she knew supported sending students to North.

“It was like 25 percent trying to follow your own ideals as a citizen,” she said, “and 75 percent doing what was best for your kid.”

Signs of Change: A Few New Students, and Lacrosse

By the start of the school year, Minneapolis had moved closer to its ambitions: It decreased the number of racially isolated schools — defined by the district as 86 percent or more students of color — to 13 from 21.

But North High was not among them. Of 440 students, 30 are white.

Still, 13 of the white students — nearly half — are in the freshman class, the cohort affected by the new boundary. Overall, the school serves 93 percent students of color, down from 98 percent.

“I expected better,” Mr. Moore, the district official said. “But I am also being pragmatic.” The changes came during a pandemic, and he hopes to see more buy-in over time. The long-term projection for North is 70 percent students of color and 30 percent white.

The plan has no shortage of critics. Some have argued that the district did not really put the onus on white families, and that most students forced to change schools were children of color, disrupting their lives further amid a traumatic pandemic. (Officials said the burden was shared proportionally.)

Another criticism is that the district bungled communication, alienating families.

And, critics say, district officials created controversy while not doing enough to truly improve and integrate schools. While some schools grew more diverse, others, like Southwest, are expected to become less so.

“They are not heroes,” said Myron Orfield, a civil rights professor at the University of Minnesota Law School, who criticized the district for doing too little, too late.

For years, the district has been a central figure in lawsuit that accuses the state of allowing school segregation, including in Minneapolis.

A tentative settlement, reached this year, could set the stage for broader change. The agreement would loop in suburban districts, which tend to be whiter and wealthier, and some of those districts would be required to work with districts like Minneapolis on a regional integration plan. Wealthier districts would accept disadvantaged students and vice versa, and the state would pay for transportation. The agreement would also create magnet schools to draw diverse students together.

The plan is designed to get at the crux of de facto segregation in metropolitan areas: the divide among school districts, including between cities and the suburbs.

“To really have a viable long-term plan, you need a metropolitan approach,” said Mr. Orfield, who has served as a volunteer witness for the plaintiffs.

For now, Leah Harp is among the few new white parents at North. She decided to send her son after touring the school, where she noticed clean hallways, a culture of high expectations and students who seemed happy and relaxed.

“It’s like a family,” she said. “That’s the kind of environment that I want for my children.”

She thought her son, a freshman, and eventually, his younger brother, would benefit from being around children of other backgrounds. She did share concerns about crime in the neighborhood, but has been driving her son back and forth. While at school, he’s quite safe, she believes.

The transition has not been flawless.

At P.T.A. meetings, where she was elected treasurer, Ms. Harp asks questions (Do parents typically do anything at the school for Halloween?) and makes suggestions (Should they hold a voter-registration drive?). She’s wary of overstepping and tries to stay quiet more than is natural for her.

Still, she can’t help but speak up sometimes, like after a shooting near the school this fall. She wondered why the district hadn’t contacted parents directly.

The P.T.A. president, Ms. Jackson, explained: This is what we live with every day.

Almost three months into the school year, integration at North High remains a slow, tentative dance.

In south Minneapolis, Ms. Harp has a blue and white “Polar” lawn sign outside her Tudor-style home. It is the only one she knows of in her area.

To the north, some, like Ms. Crockett, of the alumni association, are on the lookout for signs of gentrification. She described the addition of lacrosse — popular among affluent, white families — as a red flag.

And Ms. Friestleben remains focused on what has been her goal all along: building a school that centers and uplifts children of color.

If white families want to be a part of that environment, they are welcome, she said. But if they cannot see all that she sees in her school — teenagers laughing and fist bumping, advanced classes filled with students of color — she is undeterred.

“We are not going to let anyone else be our validators or invalidators,” she said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/27/us/minneapolis-school-integration.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43515778)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 1:57 PM
Author: Magical pearl ratface

“ Now, the offerings include nine advanced placement courses and new sports, including soccer.”

They need a swim pool. I don’t know a single urban youth around here who can swim.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43517407)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 6:59 AM
Author: Grizzly Site

"Ms. Friestleben, a mixed-race woman who identifies as Black, knew that her school had its challenges, including a history of struggling enrollment and low test scores."

evan39?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43515793)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 11:27 AM
Author: Yellow Provocative Crackhouse Marketing Idea

Jumped out at me too. How the fuck can a public school have "struggling enrollment?" Enrollment is literally compelled at the barrel of a gun and opting out ain't easy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43516603)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 11:50 AM
Author: Vigorous theater stage

Anyone with means enrolls in private schools retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43516773)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 11:52 AM
Author: rusted cuck

People moving out of the school zone, people not moving in and having kids, private schools, and charter schools all can sink enrollment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43516789)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 11:57 AM
Author: Out-of-control Sweet Tailpipe Church

Minnesota allows you to go to the school of your choice if you drive the kid there or something. Minneapolis north is the worst high school in the metro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43516830)



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Date: November 28th, 2021 4:29 AM
Author: startled titillating station



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Author: Unholy Factory Reset Button



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Date: November 28th, 2021 11:25 AM
Author: Grizzly Site



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Date: November 28th, 2021 10:24 AM
Author: abnormal orchestra pit knife

Mixed race woman with light blue eyes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43521378)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 7:00 AM
Author: Grizzly Site

"[White] Parents peppered her with questions. Exactly how many A.P. courses did her school offer?"

AP courses are considered racist and are being eliminated in some states, cities, and school districts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43515795)



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Date: November 28th, 2021 4:59 PM
Author: Frozen Cumskin Resort

Math is considered racist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43523085)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 7:02 AM
Author: Grizzly Site

“Everyone wants equity as long as it doesn’t inconvenience them,” said Eric Moore,

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let me fix that: “No one wants equity when it means their child's one shot at education is a farce,” said Eric Moore,

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43515796)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 11:33 AM
Author: Azure greedy hall



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Date: November 27th, 2021 12:37 PM
Author: adulterous office

I don’t want equity

I want black ppl to suffer because they are worthless assholes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43517047)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 12:41 PM
Author: Grizzly Site

you have a bad attitude.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43517070)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 2:42 PM
Author: Rambunctious Circlehead Piazza

i don't want equity either. this isn't a communist nation. equal opportunities is all they get.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43517617)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 1:05 PM
Author: carmine center generalized bond

let me fix that: "equity is stupid"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43517181)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 7:36 AM
Author: Cerebral hell

The cognitive dissonance of some of these people is incredible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43515830)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 8:34 AM
Author: Out-of-control Sweet Tailpipe Church



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Date: November 27th, 2021 10:25 AM
Author: vibrant faggot firefighter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43516227)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 11:02 AM
Author: Gold mediation



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Date: November 27th, 2021 4:51 PM
Author: Fragrant Underhanded Organic Girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43518200)



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Date: November 30th, 2021 2:52 AM
Author: Wonderful lay mental disorder



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Date: November 30th, 2021 3:26 AM
Author: domesticated cobalt fanboi affirmative action



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Date: November 30th, 2021 3:30 AM
Author: Amber drunken pocket flask toilet seat



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Date: November 27th, 2021 7:42 AM
Author: beady-eyed glassy house dog poop

"Parents peppered her with questions. Exactly how many A.P. courses did her school offer? Was Spanish the only language option? Would their children be safe walking from the bus? Some even wondered how she had gotten their number and asked her not to call again."

So the paragraph starts by making you think the parents are just dying to ask this woman questions ("peppering") then drops the bomb on you that it's she who's been calling and harassing them?

What is the name for this literary technique?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43515837)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 8:18 AM
Author: Electric Sable Native Indirect Expression



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Date: November 27th, 2021 10:25 AM
Author: vibrant faggot firefighter

Bolshevism 101

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43516230)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 10:49 AM
Author: Fishy abode



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Date: November 27th, 2021 11:28 AM
Author: Gold mediation



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Date: November 27th, 2021 12:57 PM
Author: beady-eyed glassy house dog poop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43517142)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 2:22 PM
Author: Jet university



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Date: November 27th, 2021 4:53 PM
Author: Fragrant Underhanded Organic Girlfriend



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Date: November 27th, 2021 5:16 PM
Author: at-the-ready maroon set



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Date: November 27th, 2021 9:14 PM
Author: Drab Half-breed



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Date: November 27th, 2021 9:23 PM
Author: twisted vivacious shrine reading party



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Date: November 27th, 2021 10:00 PM
Author: mischievous scourge upon the earth friendly grandma



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Date: November 28th, 2021 11:29 AM
Author: spectacular frisky public bath



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Date: November 30th, 2021 2:55 AM
Author: Wonderful lay mental disorder



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Date: November 30th, 2021 3:26 AM
Author: domesticated cobalt fanboi affirmative action



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Date: August 17th, 2022 2:29 AM
Author: domesticated cobalt fanboi affirmative action



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Date: November 27th, 2021 11:05 AM
Author: Grizzly Site

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unreliable_narrator

MSM typically take the "Liar" form of unreliable narrator. But on occasion, as with Fox Butterfield, they take the Naïf form.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43516465)



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Date: November 30th, 2021 2:55 AM
Author: Wonderful lay mental disorder



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Date: November 27th, 2021 11:30 AM
Author: Yellow Provocative Crackhouse Marketing Idea

Also how DID she get their number?

So the government orders you to send your child to a government school and also to turn over your phone number and also your phone number is now data readily available to the authorities? JFC I would say "they voted for this" but I don't think anybody actually voted for this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43516621)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 11:32 AM
Author: Grizzly Site

a school board official in Arizona was keeping a dossier on parents who opposed CRT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43516639)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 3:02 PM
Author: beady-eyed glassy house dog poop



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Date: November 27th, 2021 3:25 PM
Author: brindle wild keepsake machete

That's not surprising, chief. Presumably the families have attended public schools before high school, thus their name/address/phone number is available.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43517811)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 9:14 PM
Author: Drab Half-breed

Kabbalah

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43519621)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 9:21 PM
Author: twisted vivacious shrine reading party

Significatio.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43519650)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 8:09 AM
Author: Rough-skinned personal credit line azn

“ Research shows that de facto school segregation is one major reason that America’s education system is so unequal, and that racially and socioeconomically diverse schools can benefit all students.”

I guarantee you that there is ZERO valid research that shows this causal effect.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43515883)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 11:34 AM
Author: Azure greedy hall



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Date: November 27th, 2021 12:31 PM
Author: bull headed therapy

Affluent white and white-adjacent students benefit from exposure to diverse viewpoints, cultural practices, and weaponry.

Q.E.D.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43517020)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 2:47 PM
Author: Rambunctious Circlehead Piazza

there are studies showing viewpoint diversity helps. but libs have no interest in that; they want everyone to look different and think the same - that doesn't help. yet, they'll misrepresent studies showing viewpoint diversity is good as showing diversity is good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43517647)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 11:20 PM
Author: Indigo school cafeteria alpha

https://www.politico.com/pdf/080222_MOPrincetonThesis_1-251.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43520248)



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Date: November 30th, 2021 3:37 AM
Author: Amber drunken pocket flask toilet seat

18 doublespaced pages? that's it???

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43531433)



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Date: November 30th, 2021 2:54 AM
Author: Wonderful lay mental disorder



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Date: November 27th, 2021 8:10 AM
Author: Coiffed shitlib

all affluent libs should have their children raped, tortured and killed in the ghetto

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43515884)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 11:23 AM
Author: rusted cuck

Why should children be punished for their parents’ sins?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43516587)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 2:19 PM
Author: Clear stage



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Date: November 30th, 2021 2:56 AM
Author: Wonderful lay mental disorder

It’s not a pain I’d necessarily spare them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43531391)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 8:16 AM
Author: Out-of-control Sweet Tailpipe Church

Research shows that de facto school segregation is one major reason that America’s education system is so unequal, and that racially and socioeconomically diverse schools can benefit all students.

“Research” found the answer it wanted to find

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43515890)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 8:18 AM
Author: Out-of-control Sweet Tailpipe Church

Other research has documented how racially and economically diverse schools can benefit all students, including white children, by reducing biases and promoting skills like critical thinking.

Uh my guess is it’s going to make them more racist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43515895)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 8:23 AM
Author: Out-of-control Sweet Tailpipe Church

In southern neighborhoods newly rezoned to North, real estate agents began to hear from families selling their homes. At one point, images circulated on social media of a sign outside a coveted elementary school, where the students, 60 percent white, would eventually be assigned to North.

The sign depicted a tombstone. “R.I.P.,” it read. “This will destroy our community.”

Lmao this article is gold

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43515902)



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Date: November 30th, 2021 2:56 AM
Author: Wonderful lay mental disorder



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Date: November 27th, 2021 9:54 AM
Author: Electric Sable Native Indirect Expression

Like critical thinking about the "benefits" of diversity?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43516101)



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Date: November 30th, 2021 3:26 AM
Author: domesticated cobalt fanboi affirmative action



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Date: November 27th, 2021 11:23 PM
Author: Indigo school cafeteria alpha

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/20407226/bidens-dissertation.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43520267)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 8:27 AM
Author: Electric Sable Native Indirect Expression

"Everyone wants equity"

Lemme stop you right there, hoss

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43515908)



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Date: November 30th, 2021 3:26 AM
Author: domesticated cobalt fanboi affirmative action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43531416)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 8:30 AM
Author: abusive address brethren

They always write articles about schools right before they integrate, never after.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43515912)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 8:32 AM
Author: beady-eyed glassy house dog poop

Lol, sheeeiiiiiitttt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43515915)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 8:35 AM
Author: Out-of-control Sweet Tailpipe Church

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43515918)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 11:11 AM
Author: Fishy abode

Sheeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiyyyyyyyyyyyyyttttttttt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43516497)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 9:27 AM
Author: soggy space gaping



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43516028)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 10:05 PM
Author: Arousing Famous Landscape Painting Garrison



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43519891)



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Date: November 30th, 2021 3:27 AM
Author: domesticated cobalt fanboi affirmative action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43531417)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 9:00 AM
Author: Grizzly Site

fwiw, this is her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSJF4eB8dWU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43515991)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 9:03 AM
Author: beady-eyed glassy house dog poop

Emotional wreck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43515993)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 9:14 AM
Author: Anal elastic band point

"Teach like you've never taught before."

What is this supposed to mean?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43516007)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 2:47 PM
Author: Rambunctious Circlehead Piazza

lmao

did she really think that thru?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43517650)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 2:51 PM
Author: Grizzly Site



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Date: November 27th, 2021 9:19 AM
Author: avocado cruise ship preventive strike

Wow what a dump truck of a woman.

Why are predominately black schools so bad? Oh yeah, it’s cause they’re retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43516016)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 9:19 AM
Author: Drab Half-breed

🤡🌎

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43516017)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 9:31 AM
Author: Rough-skinned personal credit line azn

What are the odds that she’s 100% white? Or, at most, one of her parents is 25-50% black?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43516039)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 5:53 PM
Author: abnormal orchestra pit knife

She has light blue eyes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43518559)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 10:56 AM
Author: mischievous scourge upon the earth friendly grandma

Wtf, is she jew/black mix

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43516410)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 12:40 PM
Author: adulterous office

She identifies as black??? Lmfao

She’s a jewish dyke with maybe 1/8th Native American in her

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43517063)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 1:30 PM
Author: cracking sexy rigor

Lmao find me one drop of black blood in your veins you ugly lying white bitch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43517305)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 5:18 PM
Author: Excitant Bawdyhouse

That craziness is reminiscent of white women.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43518334)



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Date: November 30th, 2021 1:35 PM
Author: indecent heaven

She's about to get Dolezal'd

Also lol @ that host

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43533639)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 9:27 AM
Author: soggy space gaping

How many more communities are they going to destroy trying this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43516030)



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Date: November 30th, 2021 3:36 AM
Author: domesticated cobalt fanboi affirmative action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43531431)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 10:37 AM
Author: aromatic dead gunner son of senegal

ENTER THE DINDU THUNDERDOME

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43516296)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 10:40 AM
Author: soggy space gaping



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43516315)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 10:58 AM
Author: flatulent whorehouse candlestick maker

force desegregation like in the 50s? yea that worked out great

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43516417)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 11:33 AM
Author: angry sapphire business firm

This is bussing, except the bus comes to you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43516644)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 11:33 AM
Author: Yellow Provocative Crackhouse Marketing Idea

"The changes included redrawing school zones, including for North. “This plan is saying, everyone is going to be equally inconvenienced because we need to collectively address the underachievement of our students of color,” Mr. Moore added."

Oh. So you're explicitly admitting that everybody has to suffer because students "of color" can't hack it? Perhaps you should take it up with them, not everybody else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43516647)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 11:52 AM
Author: Vigorous theater stage

San Francisco tried this for like 20 years but they are now rolling it back because it became so widely unpopular.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43516783)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 10:23 PM
Author: Iridescent Ladyboy Stock Car

im going to guess private school in san fran is astronomically expensive, yes?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43519968)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 4:54 PM
Author: Fragrant Underhanded Organic Girlfriend

Seriously, why the fuck does anyone who isn't a student or parent "of color" care at all how these students do? I don't care, it doesn't impact me at all. Why should my kids be even slightly inconvenienced as a result of their failures?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43518212)



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Date: November 28th, 2021 4:09 AM
Author: passionate copper black woman doctorate

It does matter because literally the majority of American children come out of these shithole schools and ljfl at America remaining a prosperous country with a retard workforce.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43520986)



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Date: November 30th, 2021 12:31 AM
Author: Fragrant Underhanded Organic Girlfriend

Try again. White/Asian kids do fine coming out of many public schools. These moronic ghetto rats are always going to be failures. We should pull the kids that show talent out of shitty schools and send them elsewhere, everyone else should be given knives and encouraged to kill each other.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43531080)



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Date: November 30th, 2021 3:37 AM
Author: domesticated cobalt fanboi affirmative action

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_mentality

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43531432)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 11:33 AM
Author: angry sapphire business firm

Will we ever acknowledge that IQ is everything?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43516653)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 11:37 AM
Author: Grizzly Site

we can't get libs to even acknowledge it exists.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/09/13/can-progressives-be-convinced-that-genetics-matters

Can Progressives Be Convinced That Genetics Matters?

The behavior geneticist Kathryn Paige Harden is waging a two-front campaign: on her left are those who assume that genes are irrelevant, on her right those who insist that they’re everything.

By Gideon Lewis-Kraus

September 6, 2021

Kathryn Paige Harden

“Building a commitment to egalitarianism on our genetic uniformity is building a house on sand,” Harden writes.Photograph by Dan Winters for The New Yorker

Until she was thirty-three, Kathryn Paige Harden, a professor of psychology at the University of Texas at Austin, had enjoyed a vocational ascent so steady that it seemed guided by the hand of predestination. When she first went on the job market, at twenty-six, her graduate-school mentor, Eric Turkheimer, a professor at the University of Virginia, recommended her with an almost mystified alacrity. “More than anyone else who has come through my lab, I find myself answering questions by saying, ‘We should check with Paige,’ ” he wrote. “I am absolutely confident she will be a successful addition to any faculty, and she brings a significant chance of being a superstar.” Her early scholarship was singled out for prestigious awards and grants, and she was offered tenure at thirty-two. In 2016, she began co-hosting an Introduction to Psychology class from a soundstage, in the style of a morning show—she and her colleague drank coffee from matching mugs—that was live-streamed each semester to more than a thousand students. She couldn’t cross campus without being stopped for selfies.

Harden works in the field of behavior genetics, which investigates the influence of genes on character traits (neuroticism, agreeableness) and life outcomes (educational attainment, income, criminality). Such research has historically relied upon “twin studies,” which compare identical twins with fraternal ones to differentiate genetic from environmental effects. As a new professor, she co-founded the Texas Twin Project, the first registry engineered to maximize representation of low-income families from ethnically diverse backgrounds. In a recent paper, Harden asked, “You only have one life to live, but if you rewound the tape and started anew from the exact same genetic and environmental starting point, how differently could your life go?” She continued, “Overall, twin research suggests that, in your alternate life, you might not have gotten divorced, you might have made more money, you might be more extraverted or organized—but you are unlikely to be substantially different in your cognitive ability, education, or mental disease.” In the past few years, Harden noted, new molecular techniques have begun to shore up the basic finding that our personal trajectories owe a considerable debt to our genes.

On sabbatical for the 2015-16 academic year, Harden and Elliot Tucker-Drob, a colleague to whom she was married at the time, were invited to New York City with their two young children—a three-year-old boy and a nine-month-old girl—as visiting scholars-in-residence at the Russell Sage Foundation. Russell Sage, which occupies a handsome Philip Johnson building in Manhattan, primarily supports sociologists, journalists, and economists, but it had recently launched an initiative to integrate the biological sciences. Harden felt almost immediately unwelcome at the regular fellows’ lunches. Many of the left-leaning social scientists seemed certain that behavior-genetics research, no matter how well intentioned, was likely to lead us down the garden path to eugenics. The world would be better, Harden was told, if she quit. When their cohort went to see “Hamilton,” the others professed surprise that Harden and Tucker-Drob had enjoyed it, as if their work could be done only by people uncomfortable with an inclusive vision of American history.

Harden assumed that such leeriness was the vestige of a bygone era, when genes were described as the “hard-wiring” of individual fate, and that her critics might be reassured by updated information. Two weeks before her family was due to return to Texas, she e-mailed the fellows a new study, in Psychological Science, led by Daniel Belsky, at Duke. The paper drew upon a major international collaboration that had identified sites on the genome that evinced a statistically significant correlation with educational attainment; Belsky and his colleagues used that data to compile a “polygenic score”—a weighted sum of an individual’s relevant genetic variants—that could partly explain population variance in reading ability and years of schooling. His study sampled New Zealanders of northern-European descent and was carefully controlled for childhood socioeconomic status. “Hope that you find this interesting food for thought,” she wrote.

William Darity, a professor of public policy at Duke and perhaps the country’s leading scholar on the economics of racial inequality, answered curtly, starting a long chain of replies. Given the difficulties of distinguishing between genetic and environmental effects on social outcomes, he wrote, such investigations were at best futile: “There will be no reason to pursue these types of research programs at all, and they can be rendered to the same location as Holocaust denial research.” By the time he wrote again, several hours later, one of Harden’s few supporters among the fellows had changed the thread’s subject line from “new genetics paper” to “Seriously? Holocaust deniers?” Darity responded, “I feel just as strongly that we should not keep the notions that the world is 6000 years old or that climate change is a fabrication under consideration.”

Harden remarked that being called a climate skeptic was marginally preferable to being called a Holocaust denier. She offered to host a lunch to discuss the uncontroversial basics of genetics research for anyone interested. Darity was reluctant to let the matter go: “One final comment from me, and then I will withdraw into my pique.” In 1994, he wrote, the political scientist Charles Murray and the late psychologist Richard Herrnstein “published a bestseller that achieved great notoriety, The Bell Curve. Apart from its claims about a genetic basis for a ‘racial’ hierarchy in intelligence, the book claimed that social outcomes like poverty and inequality in earnings had a genetic foundation. Personally, I thought the book was outrageous and a saddening resuscitation of ideas that had increasingly been dismissed as ‘pseudoscience.’ Belsky’s work strikes me as an extension of the Murray-Herrnstein view of the world.” He concluded, “At some point, I think we need to say enough is enough.” (Darity told me, of his e-mails, “I stand by all that.”)

An admirer of Darity’s work—especially on reparations for slavery—Harden was surprised that she’d elicited such rancor from someone with whom she was otherwise in near-total political agreement. In the wake of the exchange, some of the other fellows stopped speaking to Harden, and the e-mail chain was forwarded to members of the foundation’s board. The next year, after winning the American Psychological Association’s Distinguished Scientific Award for an Early Career Contribution to Psychology, Harden applied for a grant from Russell Sage’s biosciences initiative, which had supported similar research in the past. She received enthusiastic peer reviews from its scientific advisers, and was given to understand that the grant’s disbursal was a fait accompli. During a contentious meeting, however, the full board voted to overturn the scientific panel’s recommendation. Over the next year, a biosciences working group revised the program’s funding guidelines, stipulating in the final draft that it would not support any research into the first-order effects of genes on behavior or social outcomes. In the end, the board chose to disband the initiative entirely. (A spokesperson for Russell Sage told me by e-mail that the decision was based on the “consideration of numerous factors, including RSF’s relative lack of expertise in this area.”)

Harden has spent the last five years thinking about Darity’s objections. As she put it to me recently, “When I reread his e-mails, it all struck me as very Chekhovian. Like, here are all the guns that are going to go off in Act V.” Harden understands why the left, with which she identifies, has nurtured an aversion to genetics. She went to graduate school in Charlottesville, the birthplace of Carrie Buck, a “feeble-minded” woman who was sterilized against her will, in 1927, under a state eugenics program sanctioned by the Supreme Court. But she does not believe that a recognition of this horrifying history ought to entail the peremptory rejection of the current scientific consensus. The left’s decision to withdraw from conversations about genetics and social outcomes leaves a vacuum that the right has gaily filled. The situation has been exploited as a “red pill” to expose liberal hypocrisy. Today, Harden is at the forefront of an inchoate movement, sometimes referred to as the “hereditarian left,” dedicated to the development of a new moral framework for talking about genetics.

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This fall, Princeton University Press will publish Harden’s book, “The Genetic Lottery: Why DNA Matters for Social Equality,” which attempts to reconcile the findings of her field with her commitments to social justice. As she writes, “Yes, the genetic differences between any two people are tiny when compared to the long stretches of DNA coiled in every human cell. But these differences loom large when trying to understand why, for example, one child has autism and another doesn’t; why one is deaf and another hearing; and—as I will describe in this book—why one child will struggle with school and another will not. Genetic differences between us matter for our lives. They cause differences in things we care about. Building a commitment to egalitarianism on our genetic uniformity is building a house on sand.”

Harden understands herself to be waging a two-front campaign. On her left are those inclined to insist that genes don’t really matter; on her right are those who suspect that genes are, in fact, the only things that matter. The history of behavior genetics is the story of each generation’s attempt to chart a middle course. When the discipline first began to coalesce, in the early nineteen-sixties, the memory of Nazi atrocities rendered the eugenics threat distinctly untheoretical. The reigning model of human development, which seemed to accord with postwar liberal principles, was behaviorism, with its hope that environmental manipulation could produce any desired outcome. It did not take much, however, to notice that there is considerable variance in the distribution of human abilities. The early behavior geneticists started with the premise that our nature is neither perfectly fixed nor perfectly plastic, and that this was a good thing. They conscripted as their intellectual patriarch the Russian émigré Theodosius Dobzhansky, an evolutionary biologist who was committed to anti-racism and to the conviction that “genetic diversity is mankind’s most precious resource, not a regrettable deviation from an ideal state of monotonous sameness.”

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The field’s modern pioneers were keen to establish that their interest lay in academic questions, and they prioritized the comparatively clement study of animals. In 1965, John Paul Scott and John L. Fuller reported that, despite the discernible genetic differences among dog breeds, there did not seem to be categorical distinctions that might allow one to conclude that, say, German shepherds were smarter than Labradors. The most important variations occurred on an individual level, and environmental conditions were as important as innate qualities, if not more so.

This era of comity did not last long. In 1969, Arthur Jensen, a respected psychologist at Berkeley, published an article called “How Much Can We Boost IQ and Scholastic Achievement?” in the Harvard Educational Review. Jensen coolly argued that there was an I.Q. gap between the races in America; that the reason for this gap was at least partly genetic, and thus, unfortunately, immutable; and that policy interventions were unlikely to thwart the natural hierarchy. The Jensen affair, which extended for more than a decade, prefigured the publication of “The Bell Curve”: endless public debate, student protests, burned effigies, death threats, accusations of intellectual totalitarianism. As Aaron Panofsky writes in “Misbehaving Science,” a history of the discipline, “Controversies wax and wane, sometimes they emerge explosively, but they never really resolve and always threaten to reappear.”

The problem was that most of Jensen’s colleagues agreed with some of his basic claims: it did seem that there was something akin to “general intelligence” in humans, that it could be meaningfully measured with I.Q. tests, and that genetic inheritance has a good deal to do with it. Critics quickly pointed out that the convoluted social pathways that led from genes to complex traits rendered any simple notion of genetic “causation” silly. In 1972, Christopher Jencks, a sociologist at Harvard, proposed the thought experiment of a country in which red-haired children were prevented from going to school. One might anticipate that such children would demonstrate a weaker reading ability, which, because red hair is genetic in origin, would be conspicuously linked to their genes—and would, in some bizarre sense, be “caused” by them.

Richard Lewontin, a geneticist and a staunch egalitarian, developed a different analogy. Imagine a bag of seed corn. If you plant one handful in nutrient-poor soil, and another in rich loam, there will be a stark difference in their average stalk height, irrespective of any genetic predisposition. (There will also be greater “inequality” among the well-provisioned plants; perhaps counterintuitively, the more uniformly beneficial the climate, the more pronounced the effects of genetic difference.) Jensen’s racial comparison was thus unwarranted and invidious: it was absurd to think, in the America of 1969, that different races enjoyed equally bountiful circumstances.

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Behavior geneticists emphasized that their own studies showed that poorer children adopted by wealthy families saw substantial gains in average I.Q. This finding, it later emerged, obtained on a societal basis as well. The scholar James Flynn found that, for reasons that are not entirely understood, the average I.Q. of a population increases significantly over time: most people living a hundred years ago, were they given contemporary I.Q. tests, would easily have qualified as what early psychometricians called, with putative technical precision, “morons” or “imbeciles.” Such tests might be measuring something real, but whatever it is cannot be considered “purely” biological or inflexible.

Our ability to remediate genetic differences was thus a separate moral question. In 1979, the economist Arthur Goldberger published a mordant rejoinder to social conservatives who argued that genetic differences rendered the welfare apparatus supererogatory. “In the same vein, if it were shown that a large proportion of the variance in eyesight were due to genetic causes, then the Royal Commission on the Distribution of Eyeglasses might well pack up,” he wrote. Just because outcomes might be partly genetic didn’t mean that they were inevitable.

As twin studies proliferated throughout the nineteen-eighties, their results contributed to substantial changes in our moral intuitions. When schizophrenia and autism, for example, turned out to be largely heritable, we no longer blamed these disorders on cold or inept mothers. But, for such freighted traits as intelligence, liberals remained understandably anxious and continued to insist that differences—not just on a group level but on an individual one—were merely artifacts of an unequal environment. Conservatives pointed out that an à-la-carte approach to scientific findings was intellectually incoherent.

In 1997, Turkheimer, perhaps the preëminent behavior geneticist of his generation, published a short political meditation called “The Search for a Psychometric Left,” in which he called upon his fellow-liberals to accept that they had nothing to fear from genes. He proposed that “a psychometric left would recognize that human ability, individual differences in human ability, measures of human ability, and genetic influences on human ability are all real but profoundly complex, too complex for the imposition of biogenetic or political schemata. It would assert that the most important difference between the races is racism, with its origins in the horrific institution of slavery only a very few generations ago. Opposition to determinism, reductionism and racism, in their extreme or moderate forms, need not depend on blanket rejection of undeniable if easily misinterpreted facts like heritability.” He concluded, “Indeed it had better not, because if it does the eventual victory of the psychometric right is assured.”

Having endured the summer of 2020 trapped indoors in the oppressive Austin heat, Harden was grateful for an invitation to spend this past June at Montana State University, in Bozeman. A recent influx of out-of-town wealth had accelerated during the pandemic, and the town’s industrial fixtures had been ruthlessly spruced up to suit the needs of remote knowledge workers. Harden, who has moss-colored eyes, a wry smile, and an earnest nonchalance, met me at a coffee shop that looked as though it had been airlifted that morning from San Francisco. She wore a soft flannel shirt, faded stone-washed jeans, and dark Ray-Ban sunglasses. The air was hot and dry, but Harden is the sort of person who seems accompanied by a perpetual breeze. “ ‘The Bell Curve’ came out when I was twelve years old, and somehow that’s still what people are talking about,” she said. “There’s a new white dude in every generation who gets famous talking about this.” Virtually every time Harden gives a presentation, someone asks about “Gattaca,” the 1997 movie about a dystopia structured by genetic caste. Harden responds that the life of a behavior geneticist resembles a different nineties classic: “Groundhog Day.”

Harden was raised in a conservative environment, and though she later rejected much of her upbringing, she has maintained a convert’s distrust of orthodoxy. Her father’s family were farmers and pipeline workers in Texas, and her grandparents—Pentecostalists who embraced faith healing and speaking in tongues—were lifted out of extreme poverty by the military. “It was the classic tale of the government’s deliberate creation of a white middle class,” she said. Her father served as a Navy pilot, then took a job flying for FedEx, and Harden and her brother grew up in an exurb of Memphis. Harden scandalized her Christian high school when, at fifteen, she wrote a term paper about “The Bell Jar.” She has not recapitulated the arc of her parents’ lives. “They’re still very religious—very suspicious of the mainstream media, secular universities, secular anything, which has accelerated in the Trump years.”

Harden’s parents insisted that she stay in the South for college, and Furman University, a formerly Baptist college in South Carolina, gave her a full scholarship based on her near-perfect SAT scores. She received paid summer fellowships in rodent genetics, and found that she preferred the grunt work of the lab bench to the difficult multitasking required by the jobs in waitressing and retail to which she was accustomed. She only later realized that the point of the program was to draw students from underrepresented backgrounds into science. At twenty, she applied to graduate school in clinical psychology. Her father’s only comment was “I was afraid you were going to say that.” She was rejected almost everywhere, but Turkheimer, noting her lab experience and her exceptionally high quantitative G.R.E. scores, invited her for an interview. She wore a new Ann Taylor suit and he wore Tevas. Turkheimer’s e-mail avatar is the Greek letter psi, for “psychology,” set against the Grateful Dead logo; he offered her admission on the condition that she stop calling him “sir.”

Her experiences as an apprentice scientist were only part of the reason that she grew disillusioned with evangelicalism: “There was this incredible post-9/11 nationalism—flags on the altar next to crosses—that infected my church to a point that felt immoral and gross. Sometimes I feel like I sat through eleven years of Christian school and absorbed all the things they didn’t intend for me to absorb. I thought we were following a social-justice ethos in which the meek shall inherit the earth, and I must’ve missed the track that was the run-up to the Iraq War.” Turkheimer recommended a local psychoanalyst, who, Harden said, took her on as a “charity case.”

It might have seemed peculiar that a behavior geneticist was recommending analytic treatment, but Turkheimer had long been known for his belief that biological explanations for behavior were unlikely ever to supplant cultural and psychological ones. Turkheimer’s longtime rival, the prolific researcher Robert Plomin, believed otherwise, predicting that we would one day achieve molecular-level purchase on what makes people who they are. Turkheimer associated himself with what Plomin lamented as “the gloomy prospect”—the notion that the relevant processes were too messy and idiosyncratic to be fixed under glass. The prospect was gloomy, Turkheimer said, only from the perspective of a social scientist. As a person, he had a more sanguine view: “In the long run, the gloomy prospect always wins, and no one would want to live in a world where it did not.”

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This did not mean that behavior genetics was useless, only that it required a modest perspective on what could be achieved: twin studies might never explain how a given genotype made someone more likely to be depressed, but they could help avoid the kind of mistaken inference that blamed bad parenting. Harden’s work in Turkheimer’s lab remained squarely within this tradition. For example, the state of Texas spent a lot of money on school programs to promote sexual abstinence, on the basis of research that showed a correlation between adolescent sexuality and subsequent antisocial behavior. Harden used a twin study to demonstrate that a twin who began having sex early showed no greater likelihood of engaging in risky behavior than her twin who had abstained. In other words, both behaviors might be the expression of some underlying predisposition, but no causal arrow could be drawn. She did similar work to show that the idea of “peer pressure” as a driver of adolescent substance abuse was, at best, a radical oversimplification of an extremely complex transactional dynamic between genes and environment.

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Harden’s years in graduate school coincided with the arrival of actual geneticists in a field long dominated by psychologists. In 2003, scientists completed the first full map of the human genome, and it seemed as though Plomin’s vision would be borne out. Some illnesses—Huntington’s, for example—turned out to be the result of a mutation in a single gene, and there was a widespread assumption that complex personality traits might be as cleanly derived. A gene was purportedly identified for aggression, and one for depression, and one for homosexuality. But these studies couldn’t be replicated, and the “candidate gene” era had to be written off as a gross misstep. It became clear that complex traits were governed by multiple genes, and that individual genes could pertain to a variety of attributes.

Around the time that Harden was finishing her dissertation, however, researchers began to wonder if it might be possible to identify hundreds or even thousands of places in the genome where differences in our DNA sequences could be correlated with a trait or an outcome. This research design was called a “genome-wide association study,” or gwas (pronounced ji-wass). Turkheimer was characteristically unimpressed with the initial results, which were weak. At the annual conference of the Behavior Genetics Association in 2013, he delivered a withering keynote address: trying to understand human behavior with a gwas was like putting a CD under a microscope to figure out if a song was good. Harden, too, was sure that they would not learn anything from these contrived statistical exercises. “But we were wrong,” she said.

In the last five years, gwas results have rapidly evolved. Polygenic scores can now account for a good deal of a population’s variance in height and weight, and have been shown to predict cardiovascular disease and diabetes. “This is really a cause for celebration,” Plomin told me. “Imagine the advent of predictive medicine—to be able to identify medical issues before they occur.” Researchers have also found links with complex behavioral traits. “Significant hits have been reported for traits such as coffee and tea consumption, chronic sleep disturbances (insomnia), tiredness, and even whether an individual is a morning person or a night person,” Plomin notes, in his 2018 book, “Blueprint: How DNA Makes Us Who We Are.” The new research, he writes, “signals the start of the DNA revolution in psychology.”

The largest gwas for educational attainment to date found almost thirteen hundred sites on the genome that are correlated with success in school. Though each might have an infinitesimally small statistical relationship with the outcome, together they can be summed to produce a score that has predictive validity: those in the group with the highest scores were approximately five times more likely to graduate from college than those with the lowest scores—about as accurate a predictor as traditional social-science variables like parental income. Nobody knows quite what to do with these results, but, as one population geneticist put it to me, “the train has left the station—even if researchers don’t fully understand what they’re learning, this is how the genome is used now.”

Harden and her collaborators currently conduct their own gwas efforts; most recently, they have investigated behaviors including adolescent aggression and risktaking, which are strongly predictive of life span and labor-market outcomes. She knows that she may never convince Turkheimer, who continues to argue that the light these studies generate is too faint to dispel his gloom. But she thinks that they represent an incremental step forward: “Eric says it’s dangerous to talk about genes if you don’t know exactly how they’re associated with the outcome, but we don’t even really know how, exactly, poverty changes things—why is it good to be adopted into a rich family?” She added, “It’s impossible for me not to care about how what people start with shapes their lives.”

Harden was joined in Bozeman by her younger brother, Micah, who was visiting from Memphis. We sat together on the covered patio of the airy house Harden had rented with her boyfriend, an architectural designer named Travis Avery. It was the longest spell she had ever spent away from her children, who were on a road trip with Tucker-Drob. (The couple got divorced in 2018.) Micah had not yet read his sister’s book but had grudgingly agreed to be genotyped for it. “We have the same brown hair, same green eyes, same tendency to do what our stepmother refers to as the ‘Harden slow-blink,’ closing our eyes for a few seconds when we are annoyed at someone,” she writes. “Despite these similarities, our lives have turned out differently.” Micah still lives near their childhood home, has not left the church, and can run up and down a soccer field “without gasping for oxygen.” Her broader point, she told me, was that siblings, who share only about half their DNA, are as unalike as they are similar. She said, “On our thirteenth chromosome we’re basically two strangers.”

Micah had come with his wife, Steffi, and their ten-month-old, Hadley, a bright, sly child with an endearingly defiant stare. As the adults sat around talking, Hadley plotted to make off with the ramekins of almonds and glasses of wine. Each time she evaded adult supervision and vaulted onto the coffee table, Micah took the opportunity to troll his sister, saying delightedly, “Looks like Hadley won the genetic lottery!” Harden rolled her eyes and reminded him that this was the opposite of what she’d meant. Micah, as it turned out, knew precisely what she meant; he had already described the book to Steffi as “telling the right that they didn’t bootstrap and telling the left that interventions are more complicated than they want to believe,” which Harden conceded was not a terrible précis. Micah and Steffi had met playing soccer, and Harden teased them that Hadley might forsake the pitch for musical theatre. She thinks that all the books about the minor decisions of parenting—whether to introduce carrots or broccoli first, say—are “an attempt to psychologically defend ourselves from how little control we have in the world, about ourselves and our children.”

The episode at Russell Sage had prompted Harden to think about what her research really meant: “The experience was a pivot point for me, away from a career that was almost entirely about the production of empirical research and toward doing more metascience.” “The Genetic Lottery” reflects her years spent wandering in the desert. The book does not shy away from technical details, but it wears its learning lightly; alongside Harden’s frequent Biblical allusions are references to the movies “Clueless” and “Sliding Doors.”

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“Now that I see him up here, I think we might not have needed the horse at all.”

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Harden described her book to me as “fundamentally defensive in a lot of ways,” and before she makes any claims for what we can learn from gwas results she goes into great detail about their limitations. gwas simply provides a picture of how genes are correlated with success, or mental health, or criminality, for particular populations in a particular society at a particular time: it wouldn’t make sense to compare findings for educational attainment for women in America today with women who came of age before sex-based discrimination was outlawed in higher education. And gwas results are not “portable”: a study conducted on white Britons tells you little about people in Estonia or Nigeria. Polygenic scores remain poor predictors of individual outcomes—there are plenty of people on the low end of the spectrum for educational attainment who go on to graduate studies, and plenty of people on the high end who never secure a high-school diploma.

gwas results can accidentally reveal as much about culture or geography as they do about genes. A study of chopstick use in San Francisco would find that proficiency is genetically correlated with East Asian ancestry, which is a far cry from the discovery of an inborn dexterity with a particular utensil. One way to sidestep this pitfall is by comparing gwas results within families, where they have been shown to reliably account for differences in life outcomes among siblings. But even this measure does not solve Christopher Jencks’s redhead problem. “A person might go far in education because they are smart and curious and hard-working, or because they are conforming and risk-averse and obsessive, or because they have features (pretty, tall, skinny, light-colored) that privilege them in an intractably biased society,” Harden writes. “A study of what is correlated with succeeding in an education system doesn’t tell you whether that system is good, or fair, or just.”

At some point, Harden has to set aside her caveats and assert that sheer genetic luck plays a causal role in outcomes that matter: “If people are born with different genes, if the genetic Powerball lands on a different polygenic combination, then they differ not just in their height but also in their wealth.” For her, accepting this is the necessary prelude to any conversation about what to do about it. “If you want to help people, you have to know what’s most effective, so you need the science,” she told me. Harden thinks that the conversation about behavior genetics will continue to go in circles as long as we preserve the facile distinction between immutable genetic causes and malleable environmental ones. We would be better off if we accepted that everything is woven of long causal chains from genes through culture to personhood, and that the more we understand about them the more effective our interventions might be.

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The first thing that social-science genomics can do is help researchers control for confounding genetic variables that are almost universally overlooked. As Harden puts it in her book, “Genetic data gets one source of human differences out of the way, so that the environment is easier to see.” For example, beginning in 2002, the federal government spent almost a billion dollars on something called the Healthy Marriage Initiative, which sought to reduce marital conflict as a way of combatting poverty and juvenile crime. Harden was not surprised to hear that the policy had no discernible effect. Her own research showed that, when identical-twin sisters have marriages with different levels of conflict, their children have equal risk for delinquency. The point was not to estimate the effects of DNA per se, but to provide an additional counterfactual for analysis: would an observed result continue to hold up if the people involved had different genes? Harden can identify studies on a vast array of topics—Will coaching underresourced parents to speak more to their children reduce educational gaps? Does having dinner earlier improve familial relationships?—whose conclusions she considers dubious because the researchers controlled for everything except the fact that parents pass along to their children both a home environment and a genome.

She acknowledged that gwas techniques are too new, and the anxieties about behavior genetics too deeply entrenched, to have produced many immediately instrumental examples so far. But she pointed to a study from last year as proof of concept. A team of researchers led by Jasmin Wertz, at Duke, used gwas results to examine four different “aspects of parenting that have previously been shown to predict children’s educational attainment: cognitive stimulation; warmth and sensitivity; household chaos (reverse-coded to indicate low household chaos); and the safety and tidiness of the family home.” They found that one of them—cognitive stimulation—was linked to children’s academic achievement and their mothers’ genes, even when the children did not inherit the relevant variants. Parental choices to read books, do puzzles, and visit museums might be conditioned by their own genes, but they nevertheless produced significant environmental effects.

Even the discovery that a particular outcome is largely genetic doesn’t mean that its effects will invariably persist. In 1972, the U.K. government raised the age at which students could leave school, from fifteen to sixteen. In 2018, a research group studied the effects of the extra year on the students as adults, and found that their health outcomes for measures like body-mass index, for whatever reason, improved slightly on average. But those with a high genetic propensity for obesity benefitted dramatically—a differential impact that might easily have gone unnoticed.

Some of Harden’s most recent research has looked at curricular tracking for mathematics, an intuitive instance of how gene-environment interactions can create feedback loops. Poor schools, Harden has found, tend to let down all their students: those with innate math ability are rarely encouraged to pursue advanced classes, and those who struggle are allowed to drop the subject entirely—a situation that often forecloses the possibility of college. The most well-off schools are able to initiate virtuous cycles in the most gifted math students, and break vicious cycles in the less gifted, raising the ceiling and the floor for achievement.

Harden has perceived, in the wake of studies like these, a new willingness to consider the role of genetics: “I get e-mails now from curious social scientists that say, ‘I’ve never thought genetics was useful or relevant for me, in part because I worried there was no way to talk about genes and intelligence, or genes and behavior, without dabbling in Murray-style scientific racism.’ ”

The Murray-Herrnstein gun that hung on the wall of William Darity’s e-mail went off about a year later. On April 23, 2017, the popular podcaster Sam Harris released an episode—“Forbidden Knowledge”—designed to trigger a commotion among liberal intellectuals. Harris was affiliated with the so-called Intellectual Dark Web, a miscellaneous club (from which he has since distanced himself) bound together by a shared fixation with what it perceives to be liberal groupthink. In his interviews, Harris adopts a drowsy monotone that seems pitched to signal his commitment to the dispassionate promotion of disputatious ideas. On this occasion he invited listeners to “strap in” for a conversation with Charles Murray about “The Bell Curve,” which Harris advertised as “one of the most controversial books in living memory.”

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The book generated such outsized hostility, according to Harris, because it traffics in unpleasant truths. “People don’t want to hear that intelligence is a real thing, and that some people have more of it than others,” he said. “They don’t want to hear that differences in I.Q. matter because they’re highly predictive of differential success in life—and not just for things like educational attainment and wealth but for things like out-of-wedlock birth and mortality. People don’t want to hear that a person’s intelligence is in large measure due to his or her genes and there seems to be very little we can do environmentally to increase a person’s intelligence, even in childhood. It’s not that the environment doesn’t matter, but genes appear to be fifty to eighty per cent of the story. People don’t want to hear this. And they certainly don’t want to hear that average I.Q. differs across races and ethnic groups.”

Harris was drawn to Murray’s defense after an incident at Middlebury College, the previous month, in which Murray was shouted down by student protesters and his faculty chaperone was injured in a melee. Harris considered the deplatforming “part of an anti-free-speech hysteria that is spreading on college campuses,” and concluded, “I find the dishonesty and hypocrisy and moral cowardice of Murray’s critics shocking. And the fact that I was taken in by this defamation of him, and effectively became part of a silent mob that was just watching what amounted to a modern witch-burning—that was intolerable to me.” The two men discussed Murray’s contention that observed racial differences are at least partly genetic in origin, and that meliorist interventions like welfare and affirmative-action programs are unlikely to prove successful.

Harris seemed less interested in Murray as a scholar or pundit than as a culture-war trope. Soon after the events at Middlebury, the Web magazine Vox had published a piece that rejected even Murray’s basic points about intelligence tout court. Harris’s podcast seemed designed to reveal that the left’s repudiation of Murray was motivated by politics rather than by science. After it was released, Vox asked Turkheimer to contribute a rebuttal, and he proposed that Harden collaborate. Harden felt a responsibility to accept the assignment. “People are very tempted by Murray’s ideas, and there’s a certain kind of person who almost certainly hasn’t read ‘The Bell Curve’ but listens to Sam Harris, who has a huge audience,” she told me.

She believed that the left’s standard-issue response was unhelpful. “This is a very Christian thing I’m about to say, but it reminds me of the episode where Jesus is tempted by Satan in the desert,” she told me, in Bozeman. “There’s just enough truth in Murray that if you say, ‘This is all wrong,’ you paint yourself into a corner where you say intellectually dishonest things. Jesus has to say, ‘This part is true, and this part is false.’ ” She stopped herself. “Don’t write that I’m comparing Murray to Satan,” she said, and then continued, “I know we all want to say it’s not true that ‘intelligence tests predict things,’ but that’s not the lie.” To say that sort of thing ran the risk of furthering the martyrology of Murray, and of lending lustre to the notion that his ideas were indeed “forbidden knowledge.” The scholar and critic Fredrik deBoer, who has drawn heavily on Harden’s work, has been even more pointed in his criticism. In a 2017 essay, he wrote, “Liberals have flattered themselves, since the election, as the party of facts, truth tellers who are laboring against those who have rejected reason itself. And, on certain issues, I suspect they are right. But let’s be clear: the denial of the impact of genetics on human academic outcomes is fake news.”

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The Vox piece, which Harden and Turkheimer wrote with the social psychologist Richard Nisbett, was headlined “Charles Murray is once again peddling junk science about race and IQ.” There is a lot of good evidence, they wrote, to support the ideas that “intelligence, as measured by IQ tests, is a meaningful construct” and that “individual differences in intelligence are moderately heritable.” They even conceded, with many qualifications, that “racial groups differ in their mean scores on IQ tests.” But there was simply no good scientific reason to conclude that observed racial gaps were anything but the fallout from the effects of racism. They pointed out that in the one instance when Harris used James Flynn’s work to push back against Murray’s ideas, Murray responded with some hand-waving about a research paper that he admitted was too complicated for him to understand.

Despite its inflammatory headline, the article represented an unusually subtle culture-war intervention. Nevertheless, Harris and his legion of supporters took it as the instigation of a “smear campaign.” In Quillette, the researcher Richard Haier compared Harden and Turkheimer’s repudiation of Murray to climate-change denial—the second time in a year that Harden had been thus indicted, this time from the right. The recriminations of what Harden now describes as “the Vox fiasco” dragged on over the next year, with parades of arguments and counterarguments, leaked personal e-mails, and levels of sustained podcasting that were, by anyone’s standards, extreme. Harden told me, “The popular reaction was so divorced from that of the scientific community that men on the Internet were sending me papers to read without realizing they were citing work by my ex-husband, and that the work itself was a meta-analysis of my own papers.”

Last summer, an anonymous intermediary proposed to Harris and Harden that they address their unresolved issues. Harden appeared on Harris’s podcast, and patiently explained why Murray’s speculation was dangerously out in front of the science. At the moment, technical and methodological challenges, as well as the persistent effects of an unequal environment, would make it impossible to conduct an experiment to test Murray’s idly incendiary hypotheses. She refused to grant that his provocations were innocent: “I don’t disagree with you about insisting on intellectual honesty, but I think of it as ‘both/and’—I think that that value is very important, but I also find it very important to listen to people when they say, ‘I’m worried about how this idea might be used to harm me or my family or my neighborhood or my group.’ ” (Harris declined to comment on the record for this piece.) As she once put it in an essay, “There is a middle ground between ‘let’s never talk about genes and pretend cognitive ability doesn’t exist’ and ‘let’s just ask some questions that pander to a virulent on-line community populated by racists with swastikas in their Twitter bios.’ ”

Harden is not alone in her drive to fulfill Turkheimer’s dream of a “psychometric left.” Dalton Conley and Jason Fletcher’s book, “The Genome Factor,” from 2017, outlines similar arguments, as does the sociologist Jeremy Freese. Last year, Fredrik deBoer published “The Cult of Smart,” which argues that the education-reform movement has been trammelled by its willful ignorance of genetic variation. Views associated with the “hereditarian left” have also been articulated by the psychiatrist and essayist Scott Alexander and the philosopher Peter Singer. Singer told me, of Harden, “Her ethical arguments are ones that I have held for quite a long time. If you ignore these things that contribute to inequality, or pretend they don’t exist, you make it more difficult to achieve the kind of society that you value.” He added, “There’s a politically correct left that’s still not open to these things.” Stuart Ritchie, an intelligence researcher, told me he thinks that Harden’s book might create its own audience: “There’s so much toxicity in this debate that it’ll take a long time to change people’s minds on it, if at all, but I think Paige’s book is just so clear in its explanation of the science.”

The nomenclature has given Harden pause, depending on the definition of “hereditarian,” which can connote more biodeterminist views, and the definition of “left”—deBoer is a communist, Alexander leans libertarian, and Harden described herself to me as a “Matthew 25:40 empiricist” (“The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me’ ”). The political sensitivity of the subject has convinced many sympathetic economists, psychologists, and geneticists to keep their heads below the parapets of academia. As the population geneticist I spoke to put it to me, “Geneticists know how to talk about this stuff to each other, in part because we understand terms like ‘heritability,’ which we use in technical ways that don’t always fully overlap with their colloquial meanings, and in part because we’re charitable with each other, assume each other’s good faith—we know that our colleagues aren’t eugenicists. But we have no idea how to talk about it in public, and, while I don’t agree with everything she said, sometimes it feels like we’ve all been sitting around waiting for a book like Paige’s.”

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Harden’s outspokenness has generated significant blowback from the left. On Twitter, she has been caricatured as a kind of ditzy bourgeois dilettante who gives succor to the viciousness of the alt-right. This March, after she expressed support for standardized testing—which she argues predicts student success above and beyond G.P.A. and can help increase low-income and minority representation—a parody account appeared under the handle @EugenicInc, with the name “Dr. Harden, Social Justice Through Eugenics!” and the bio “Not a determinist, but yes, genes cause everything. I just want to breed more Hilary Clinton’s for higher quality future people.” One tweet read, “In This House We Believe, Science is Real, Womens Rights are Human Rights, Black Lives Matter, News Isnt Fake, Some Kids Have Dumb-Dumb Genes!!!”

In 2018, she wrote an Op-Ed in the Times, arguing that progressives should embrace the potential of genetics to inform education policy. Dorothy Roberts, a professor of law, sociology, and Africana studies at the University of Pennsylvania, strongly disagreed: “There’s just no way that genetic testing is going to lead to a restructuring of society in a just way in the future—we have a hundred years of evidence for what happens when social outcomes are attributed to genetic differences, and it is always to stigmatize, control, and punish the people predicted to have socially devalued traits.” Darity, the economist, told me that he doesn’t see how Harden can insist that differences within groups are genetic but that differences between them are not: “It’s a feint and a dodge for her to say, ‘Well, I’m only looking at variations across individuals.’ ”

There is a good precedent for this kind of concern. In “Blueprint,” Robert Plomin wrote that polygenic scores should be understood as “fortune tellers” that can “foretell our futures from birth.” Jared Taylor, a white-supremacist leader, argued that Plomin’s book should “destroy the basis for the entire egalitarian enterprise of the last 60 or so years.” He seized on Plomin’s claim that, for many outcomes, “environmental levers for change are not within our grasp.” Taylor wrote, “This is a devastating finding for the armies of academics and uplift artists who think every difference in outcome is society’s fault.” He continued, “And, although Blueprint includes nothing about race, the implications for ‘racial justice’ are just as colossal.” Harden has been merciless in her response to behavior geneticists whose disciplinary salesmanship—and perhaps worse—inadvertently indulges the extreme right. In her own review of Plomin’s book, she wrote, “Insisting that DNA matters is scientifically accurate; insisting that it is the only thing that matters is scientifically outlandish.” ​(Plomin told me that Harden misrepresented his intent. He added, “Good luck to Paige in convincing people who are engaged in the culture wars about this middle path she’s suggesting. . . . My view is it isn’t worth confronting people and arguing with them.”)

With the first review of Harden’s book, these dynamics played out on cue. Razib Khan, a conservative science blogger identified with the “human biodiversity” movement, wrote that he admired her presentation of the science but was put off by the book’s politics; though he notes that a colleague of his once heard Harden described as “Charles Murray in a skirt,” he clearly thinks the honorific was misplaced. “Alas, if you do not come to this work with Harden’s commitment to social justice, much of the non-scientific content will strike you as misguided, gratuitous and at times even unfair.” This did not prevent some on the Twitter left from expressing immediate disgust. Kevin Bird, who describes himself in his Twitter bio as a “radical scientist,” tweeted, “Personally, I wouldn’t be very happy if a race science guy thought my book was good.” Harden sighed when she recounted the exchange: “It’s always from both flanks. It felt like another miniature version of Harris on one side and Darity on the other.”

The day after Harden’s brother returned to Memphis, she and I went for a walk around the campus of Montana State University. We wandered into the Museum of the Rockies, which has a world-class collection of dinosaur fossils, and she remarked that the experience would have been more fun with her children. I asked if her work had given her any special insights into the challenges of parenting, and she laughed and threw up her hands, joking that the only established public roles for psychology professors were either as center-right pundits or as dispensers of child-rearing advice. She told me, “As a parent, I try to keep in mind that differences between people are examples of runaway feedback loops of gene-by-environment interaction. People have some initial genetic predisposition to something, and that leads them to choose certain friends over other friends, and these initial exposures have a certain effect, and you like that effect and you choose it again, and then these feedback loops become self-reinforcing.”

Behavior geneticists frequently quote an old disciplinary chestnut about how first-time parents are naïve behaviorists and that a second child turns them into convinced geneticists. In one chapter of her book, Harden mentions that her son struggles with a speech impairment. “Looking at how my children differ in their ability to articulate words, I can easily see the capricious hand of nature,” she writes. “When it comes to inheriting whatever combination of genetic variants allows one to pronounce a word like ‘squirrel’ by the age of three, my daughter was lucky. My son was not.” She emphasizes that parents are already well aware of how we might talk about genetics without making normative judgments. “I certainly am not implying that one of my children is ‘superior’ or ‘inferior’ to the other one,” she writes. “Verbal ability is valued, but having strong verbal ability doesn’t make one of my children more valuable to me. The genetic differences between them are meaningful for their lives, but those differences do not create a hierarchy of intrinsic worth.”

The ultimate claim of “The Genetic Lottery” is an extraordinarily ambitious act of moral entrepreneurialism. Harden argues that an appreciation of the role of simple genetic luck—alongside all the other arbitrary lotteries of birth—will make us, as a society, more inclined to ensure that everyone has the opportunity to enjoy lives of dignity and comfort. She writes, “I think we must dismantle the false distinction between ‘inequalities that society is responsible for addressing’ and ‘inequalities that are caused by differences in biology.’ ” She cites research showing that most people are much more willing to support redistributive policies if differences in opportunity are seen as arbitrarily unfair—and deeply pervasive.

As she put it to me in an e-mail, “Even if we eliminated all inequalities in educational outcomes between sexes, all inequalities by family socioeconomic status, all inequalities between different schools (which as you know are very confounded with inequalities by race), we’ve only eliminated a bit more than a quarter of the inequalities in educational outcomes.” She directed me to a comprehensive World Bank data set, released in 2020, which showed that seventy-two per cent of inequality at the primary-school level in the U.S. is within demographic groups rather than between them. “Common intuitions about the scale of inequality in our society, and our imaginations about how much progress we would make if we eliminated the visible inequalities by race and class, are profoundly wrong,” she wrote. “The science confronts us with a form of inequality that would otherwise be easy to ignore.”

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The perspective of “gene blindness,” she believes, “perpetuates the myth that those of us who have ‘succeeded’ in twenty-first century capitalism have done so primarily because of our own hard work and effort, and not because we happened to be the beneficiaries of accidents of birth—both environmental and genetic.” She invokes the writing of the philosophers John Rawls and Elizabeth Anderson to argue that we need to reject “the idea that America is or could ever be the sort of ‘meritocracy’ where social goods are divided up according to what people deserve.” Her rhetoric is grand, though the practical implications, insofar as she discusses them, are not far removed from the mid-century social-democratic consensus—the priorities of, say, Hubert Humphrey. If genes play a significant role in educational attainment, then perhaps we ought to design our society such that you don’t need a college degree to secure health care.

In my conversations with her colleagues, Harden’s overarching idea was almost universally described as both beautiful and hopelessly quixotic. As one philosopher put it, “What I love about Paige, and also what I find so incredibly moving and courageous and reckless about her, is that she thinks she can change the whole apparatus—this large-scale framework for moral responsibility—on the basis of our understanding of our genes. I’m not sure genetics has the capacity to shift our intuitions, at least on the left—because of course the right already cares about genes. In principle, the left could try to take genes as a starting point, too, but in practice it’s probably a different story. It’s really awful to think about, but I think the fact that she’s an attractive and charismatic Southern woman seems not irrelevant to her desirability as a culture-war ally for the right.” James Tabery, a philosopher at the University of Utah, believes that underscoring genetic difference is just as likely to increase inequality as to reduce it. “It’s truly noble for Paige to make the case for why we might think of biological differences as similar to socially constructed differences, but you’re bumping into a great deal of historical, economic, political, and philosophical momentum—and it’s dangerous, no matter how noble her intentions are, because once the ideas are out there they’re going to get digested the way they’re going to get digested,” he said. “The playing board has been set for some time.”

In Bozeman, Harden seemed anxious that she had not heard from Turkheimer about her book. It took him a long time to get around to reading it, he told me, in part because of the ways their ideas have diverged in recent years, but when he finally did he wrote her an e-mail that said, “I really do think the book is great—in fact I think it will be instantly recognized as the most important book about behavior genetics that has ever been written. You should get ready to be very famous.” He told me, “I’m really proud of Paige. She’s amazing. And it’s, well, an interesting experience to have a student that gets this successful based in part on disagreeing with you.” He still looked askance at gwas. “I think that Paige’s dilemma—and I don’t mean this in a bad way, because she takes the problem very seriously—is in that balance that everyone has to seek. If you’re me, who thinks that it’s all just correlation, then you’re the ‘gloomy prospect’ guy and everybody thinks you’re a wet blanket. And if you think, ‘Wow, the whole world turned out to be genetic,’ then you’re Charles Murray, and in between you have to walk this very careful path. You have to believe in a certain amount of genetic causation or you don’t have a science, and you can’t believe in too much genetic causation or you believe that poor people are poor because they have poor genes—and that’s a very, very delicate walk.”

Harden’s political optimism is tempered by a serene personal realism. At the end of our walk, she admitted that it wasn’t always easy to reconcile herself with whatever it was that behavior geneticists’ results were telling us. “Take the heritability of an outcome like divorce—it’s totally wild, because there’s a whole other person there!” Plenty of twin research suggests a meaningful, if puzzling, genetic correlation with divorce. Harden’s parents are divorced, as is she.

“I use this example of my sunglasses,” she said. She removed her Ray-Bans and took out her phone to show me a photograph of two previous pairs, both of which had lost the same lens. “I think of the heritability of life events as the repeatability of things that seem serendipitous. I’m clumsy in ways that persist over time, I have certain tastes that persist over time, and I guess I think of the heritability of divorce in the same way. My subjective experience of my sunglasses being broken is that you have good intentions and life goes awry—it’s easy to interpret these things as events that happen to you. But, on the other hand, I bring all sorts of things that make these experiences repeatable in ways that are extremely difficult to describe. It’s obviously difficult to do exact science on the ways I repeatedly break my Ray-Bans, just like it’s difficult or impossible to explain marital status on a molecular level.” She picked her sunglasses up off the table and put them back on. “But I do think that in the end you end up becoming yourself.” ♦

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43516681)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 11:35 AM
Author: rusted cuck

So hard to keep track of what these evil liberals actually want. They supposedly want the advantages of having white people around like wealth, engagement, safety, knowledge, and so on but then constantly rage against it when they see it in action. For instance, it should be great that finally a PTA parent advocated for improved communication about shootings near campus (it’s telling that parents hadn’t already demanded it), but when she asks for it some awful lib black parent has to shame her and say shootings happen all the time in that neighborhood. No shit, and you wonder why white parents are avoiding that community.

The lib hall monitors are scanning for signs of “gentrification” like kids playing lacrosse as if they’re burning crosses on the football field. It’s so tiring. Why bother if you don’t have to?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43516668)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 11:58 AM
Author: Out-of-control Sweet Tailpipe Church



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43516839)



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Date: November 30th, 2021 3:32 AM
Author: domesticated cobalt fanboi affirmative action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43531422)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 11:38 AM
Author: Adventurous telephone senate

Lol at not homeschooling

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43516685)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 5:16 PM
Author: at-the-ready maroon set



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43518327)



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Date: November 29th, 2021 9:31 PM
Author: at-the-ready maroon set



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43530188)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 11:51 AM
Author: Grizzly Site

So Ms. Wulfsberg appealed the reassignment to North, citing her son’s attendance at Southwest, and her daughter’s interest in Japanese. (North offers one language, Spanish.)

She was also concerned about transportation. There was no direct bus, and Isabella’s commute could take up to 55 minutes. She would also have to walk from the bus stop to school through an area where frequent gun shots are a problem.

But Ms. Wulfsberg, who described herself as a lifelong Democrat, felt there was little room to explore her concerns without being misinterpreted or offending other families. Conversations on a Facebook page for parents turned tense.

One comment, in particular, stuck with her.

“They were like, ‘Your cover is, you want academics for your kids, and underneath this all, you really are racist,’” she recalled. “It’s a very scary feeling to do a self-examination of yourself and think, ‘Am I?’”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43516774)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 11:53 AM
Author: Stirring Orange Mexican



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43516801)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 12:01 PM
Author: stubborn puppy

So she voted for this. Fuck her.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43516857)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 12:10 PM
Author: mischievous scourge upon the earth friendly grandma

Harsh but fair

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43516916)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 12:11 PM
Author: ocher windowlicker

Cr. If I were a Republican, I’d vote for bussing all these libs children to the most ghetto school I could find

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43516924)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 2:49 PM
Author: Rambunctious Circlehead Piazza

all politicians who support integration and oppose school choice should be required to do this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43517664)



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Date: November 30th, 2021 3:28 AM
Author: domesticated cobalt fanboi affirmative action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43531418)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 12:38 PM
Author: abnormal orchestra pit knife



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43517051)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 12:56 PM
Author: Adventurous telephone senate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43517131)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 12:58 PM
Author: Grizzly Site

and she will vote for it again next year, and the next ...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43517156)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 4:55 PM
Author: Fragrant Underhanded Organic Girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43518217)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 9:55 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle peach home

The really crazy thing is that she is absolutely going to keep voting for this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43519845)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 5:19 PM
Author: Excitant Bawdyhouse

"I didn't want Isabella to take black dick." is not something she can say out loudly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43518351)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 11:51 AM
Author: Grizzly Site

No. 1 Reader's Pick comment:

Michael

Denver

3h ago

If overnight my kids went from a “coveted” school to one that had a 1 out of 10 rating, I, too, would either move or drive them to the suburbs.

- a person of color

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43516782)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 11:53 AM
Author: Grizzly Site

AG

Cleveland

3h ago

Family’s being forced into a new school may be hesitant not because of racism, but because the school has a troubled history of low scores and attendance (that gets all of four words mentioned in the article).

Not everything is NIMBY or racist. Sometimes it’s the simplest explanation which is: of course I’m going to have questions and be uneasy when my child is being forced to attend a school with a history of academic problems.

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Chuck commented 3 hours ago

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Chuck

Minneapolis

3h ago

I’m a former Minneapolis resident primarily focused on giving my child a good education. The problem with schools in North Minneapolis is not funding (per pupil spending is higher than neighboring suburban schools with top scores), it is a lack of parental involvement. If my child is read to daily and is already learning basic math, it makes no sense to surround them with children who are not exposed to these things. The state will never be able to replicate good parenting.

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Tom Q commented 3 hours ago

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Tom Q

Minneapolis, MN

3h ago

When a Black parent declares she wants her school's curriculum "to reflect them," what exactly does that mean?

Mathematics doesn't differ based on the color of one's skin. Nor does noun/verb conjugation. To the best of my knowledge, nor does science.

At the risk of alienating my fellow progressives, I would be appalled if my local public school engaged in education with a curriculum based on race. If we are all to be part of a color-blind community, gearing primary education around skin color does nothing to further that goal.

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Patrick commented 3 hours ago

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Patrick

MA

3h ago

“It’s the reality that wherever white people are comes with resources,” yet the 90% black school cited "has a new athletic field, and on the first floor, a radio studio."

This type of contradiction is what results from trying to force feed a narrative.

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Rachel commented 3 hours ago

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Rachel

San Antonio

3h ago

I’m not white.

If my kid was in a highly ranked school where they were the minority I would still prefer it strongly over sending them to a school that was lower ranking but they were the majority.

It’s not always exclusively about racism. Some parents just don’t want to send their kids to low achieving schools. Pinning everything, especially in cases where it’s not about racism INTO racism is just going to dilute the meaning of the word.

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Ernesto commented 3 hours ago

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Ernesto

North Carolina

3h ago

On one hand you have affluent white parents driving their kids 55 minutes to North High, their children dealing with limited resources, a dearth of Advanced Placement courses, and regular shootings in the neighborhood because they buy into raising that community.

On the other you have Lynne Crockett, head of the North High Alumni Association, who speaks disapprovingly of adding "white" sports like soccer and lacrosse to the athletic curriculum as red flags of gentrification.

Of course if Ms. Crockett was white and complaining about "black" sports she'd be pilloried, but the North High community apparently trusts her to represent their views and I'd move heaven and earth not to send my children there.

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ray commented 2 hours ago

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ray

new york city

2h ago

The education gap is due to a parenting gap. Worked almost a quarter century with pregnant teens in NYC. The root of the gap is too many babies having babies. Teen mom's are rarely capable or equipped to be effective parents

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Douglas Kawasaki commented 3 hours ago

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Douglas Kawasaki

Honolulu

3h ago

This article seems to state in no uncertain terms that neither “side” — white or non-white — want school integration. (In fact, both sides seem to actively push against it.)

So then: why?

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Kitnkaboodle commented 3 hours ago

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Kitnkaboodle

Usa

3h ago

The wealthier families will send their kids to private schools instead of failing public schools. This principal thinks the wealthier families will play down to her level? Nope.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43516802)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 12:08 PM
Author: Adventurous telephone senate

Great comments but it is about race at the end of the day. “High achieving” black schools simply don’t exist because blacks on average are something like two standard deviations in IQ lower than the typical children of a white educated person. “Better parenting” or “more equity” isn’t going to close this IQ gap ever. In many cases the academic performance of a school is directly related related to how black it is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43516906)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 10:10 PM
Author: Arousing Famous Landscape Painting Garrison

this is true but bright kids can thrive at schools full of dumber kids as long as they aren't disruptive and the school is well-run. blacks seem to be worse for school quality than mexicans even though the IQ scores are pretty close.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43519914)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 10:16 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle peach home

Mexicans are way better; the parents usually at least give a shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43519946)



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Date: November 28th, 2021 1:26 AM
Author: Racy location jewess

Lol no they don't

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43520773)



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Date: November 28th, 2021 8:35 AM
Author: Razzmatazz Offensive National Security Agency

lol said the white Melvin who doesn't know any Mexicans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43521122)



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Date: November 28th, 2021 2:51 PM
Author: Excitant Bawdyhouse

lol no man.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43522520)



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Date: November 30th, 2021 2:30 AM
Author: Misunderstood Immigrant

8/10 high schools exist that are more than half Hispanic

I don't think an 8/10 half black hs exists

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43531352)



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Date: December 1st, 2021 1:08 AM
Author: Misunderstood Immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43537268)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 10:28 PM
Author: Iridescent Ladyboy Stock Car

there are plenty of high achieving minority schools in new york city, for example. graduating whole classes on time. 100% going to 4 year colleges, etc. the narrative problem is they are all catholic schools. hth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43519988)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 10:40 PM
Author: Iridescent Ladyboy Stock Car

for example, in the bronx alone sampling the dumpiest schols (except for hayes which is "good"):

https://www.cardinalhayes.org/about/hayes-facts in the deep south bronx

https://straymondhighschool.org/apps/pages/index.jsp?uREC_ID=328435&type=d off of TREMONT AVE

https://www.amsu.org/amsu-news/2020/2/18/college-acceptancesscholarship-update off the grand concourse.

https://www.scanlanhs.edu/students/graduation.jsp

the biggest dump of them all not named st. raymonds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43520037)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 10:50 PM
Author: Iridescent Ladyboy Stock Car

forget it, once you throw the good ones in the mix it's silly. remember, these are minority majority catholic schools in the bronx:

https://www.prestonhs.org/counselors/college-acceptances.cfm

https://www.cardinalspellman.org/apps/pages/index.jsp?uREC_ID=56471&type=d&termREC_ID=&pREC_ID=80646&hideMenu=0

cardinal spellman's viewbook shows all the ivies, MIT, lol.

https://www.fordhamprep.org/page.cfm?p=4790

fordham prep, likely the most diverse meaning there are actually more than 50 white kids and a smattering of asians, also has several elite collegemos.

i know its easy to say NIGGERS NIGGERS NIGGERS SPICS SPICS SPICS and then MOAR NIGGERS, but it's really PARENTS PARENTS PARENTS like turtles all the way down.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43520074)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 1:01 PM
Author: chocolate stimulating brunch queen of the night

“Mathematics doesn't differ based on the color of one's skin. Nor does noun/verb conjugation.”

well…

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43517165)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 8:50 PM
Author: Supple stag film legal warrant

cr has that chucklehead not heard of invariant "be"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43519493)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 8:50 PM
Author: Supple stag film legal warrant

"Rachel" is Asian, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43519495)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 11:57 AM
Author: Translucent buck-toothed dingle berry meetinghouse

“It was like 25 percent trying to follow your own ideals as a citizen,” she said, “and 75 percent doing what was best for your kid.”

“It was like 25 percent trying to follow your own ideals as a citizen,” she said, “and 75 percent doing what was best for your kid.”

“It was like 25 percent trying to follow your own ideals as a citizen,” she said, “and 75 percent doing what was best for your kid.”

“It was like 25 percent trying to follow your own ideals as a citizen,” she said, “and 75 percent doing what was best for your kid.”

JFC!!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43516834)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 12:34 PM
Author: Odious travel guidebook

as with Soros' scheme to weaponize black violence against whites by 'reforming' prosecutors' offices, the actual intentions and motive behind this plot are laundered by the NYT in superficial blather about 'equity' and 'educational opportunity'.

don't be fooled by the propagandistic euphemising. this is not about 'reform' or 'equity'; this is about further terrorizing, degrading, and killing of white people. that is the only real cash value in this and related proposals and is the inevitable result being sought. (IQ chauvinist Jews, who push this stuff, do not believe for one second that shoving ghetto kids into a classroom w/ suburban whites will magically produce the outcome of making blacks smarter; this is a grotesque ruse.)

forcing whites into a dysgenic 'integration' meat grinder where their daughters are raped in the school bathroom and their sons assaulted without criminal consequence, where they are humiliated by CRT indoctrination, acculturated into depraved TikTok dance niggerhood, etc, is the goal. the further demoralization and negrification of white people who are powerless to resist coordinated Jewish/state genocide is the goal.

eradicating 'whiteness' is not just a slogan, it is a process and policy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43517035)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 5:49 PM
Author: Scarlet hairraiser forum lettuce



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43518538)



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Date: November 28th, 2021 11:15 AM
Author: Unholy Factory Reset Button



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Date: November 27th, 2021 12:36 PM
Author: Filthy irradiated turdskin

Lmfao !!!!!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43517042)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 12:38 PM
Author: twisted vivacious shrine reading party

The next Hitler is likely to come out of one of these schools.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43517048)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 1:02 PM
Author: carmine center generalized bond

capitalizing black makes me want to beat the fuck out of people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43517172)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 1:24 PM
Author: aqua hunting ground athletic conference

Both Fox News and Daily Mail capitalize Black but not white. Have fun only reading Daily Stormer and the Unz blog.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43517278)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 1:36 PM
Author: umber bossy digit ratio

Normalizing whiteness with the use of "white" is racist. You should be calling out it's social construction by capitalizing it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43517325)



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Date: November 30th, 2021 3:39 AM
Author: domesticated cobalt fanboi affirmative action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43531436)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 1:15 PM
Author: umber bossy digit ratio

"What would white families do, when forced to wrestle with their own progressive values?"

aka They voted for this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43517218)



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Date: November 30th, 2021 3:39 AM
Author: domesticated cobalt fanboi affirmative action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43531435)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 1:21 PM
Author: Heady Pink Police Squad

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/27/us/police-officer-school-principal-minnesota/index.html

Lmao, principal is married to a MN white cop who looks like Chauvin

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43517254)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 1:34 PM
Author: umber bossy digit ratio

You can tell they view their lives from the outside, as works of art to be sculpted for and described from the perspective of others.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43517319)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 5:59 PM
Author: Crimson mind-boggling school quadroon

Like that shit smeared Jesus thing from the 90s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43518593)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 2:14 PM
Author: Stirring Orange Mexican



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Date: November 27th, 2021 2:40 PM
Author: Rambunctious Circlehead Piazza

“At times,” she said, “it was demeaning and humiliating.”

bitch, that's on you. you literally run the school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43517613)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 3:12 PM
Author: Grizzly Site

It really is a lib plot to use public schools to take over private lives including family life.

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"Dean Chemerinsky stated, if my memory is correct, that the only way to deal with educational disparities and the problem of (de facto) resegregation of public schools is to require all children to attend public schools and to require that they do so within districts made up of metropolitan areas. That would include suburbs along with inner cities, so that racial integration by busing will be possible. He stated that Milliken v. Bradley should be overruled, so that suburban school districts could be, for these purposes, combined with inner city school districts to allow integration. He also stated that Pierce v. Society of Sisters should be overruled, so that all children could be required to attend these racially mixed public schools. As I understand it, he thinks that only if whites are required to put their children in the same schools as those attended by racial minorities will there be the political will to provide the resources so that minority students can receive a quality education. He said that parents who wanted to have their children receive religious education or other forms of education could have them receive it after school or (I believe he said) on weekends."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43517773)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 3:16 PM
Author: Bistre idiot patrolman



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Date: November 27th, 2021 4:53 PM
Author: twisted vivacious shrine reading party

lmao it was known when he was first elected that Obama was a student of literal terrorist Bill Ayers, who was entrusted with hundreds of millions of dollars to 'reform' Illinois education along his deranged direction (about which you can read the Weather manifesto).

https://pjmedia.com/blog/tom-maguire/2008/08/22/obama-ayers-and-the-annenberg-challenge-cover-up-n18939

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43518207)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 10:52 PM
Author: angry sapphire business firm



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Date: November 30th, 2021 3:21 PM
Author: domesticated cobalt fanboi affirmative action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43534251)



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Date: November 28th, 2021 2:14 PM
Author: Grizzly Site

The Fundamental Issue of Our Time

The first in a series

C. Bradley Thompson

Nov 23

19

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“For it is correct to take care of the young first, so that they will be the best possible, just as a good farmer properly takes care of the young plants first, and after this of the others as well.”

--Socrates in Plato’s Euthyphro

Over the course of the last eighteen months, parents around the country have been showing up to school board meetings to express their concerns about a wide range of topics, including dissatisfaction with COVID-related school closings, remote learning, vaccine and mask mandates, and, most importantly, with the teaching of Critical Race and Gender Theory in the government schools. These school board meetings have been sometimes raucous affairs, where parents have expressed outrage at what is or is not happening in their kids’ schools. School board members have been subjected to withering public criticism and condemnation.

America’s moms and dads are mad as hell, and, apparently, they’re not going to take it anymore. They have risen up to assert their rights as taxpayers and their first amendment rights to assemble and speak their minds. More fundamentally, though, they are also asserting their rights as parents.

In reaction to this spontaneous, grassroots rébellion des parents, America’s Ruling Class has been forced to reveal for the first time its deepest philosophic and political commitments.

Who Has the Right to Educate America’s Children?

On September 28, Terry McAuliffe shocked voters in Virginia and around the country when he said in a gubernatorial debate with his Republican opponent, Glenn Youngkin, “I don’t think parents should be telling schools what they should teach.”

Virginia voters understood immediately the meaning of McAuliffe’s statement. The aspiring repeat Governor seemed to be saying that parents do not and should not have a “right” to determine what their children are taught in school, which means that America’s Education Establishment (i.e., the state and federal departments of education, teachers’ unions, teacher-training institutions, school board associations, textbook and curriculum companies) has the “right” to determine the content of your child’s mind.

The moment was clarifying. In an instant, all of the particular education issues that Americans have been debating for the last few years (e.g., mask mandates, online learning, Common Core, CRT, transgenderism, pronouns, bathroom policies, and pedophilic pornography, etc.) became secondary to a more fundamental question: Who should determine the cognitive content of America’s children, parents or government officials? More to the point, the question is: Do parents have an unalienable right to determine how, in what, and by whom their children will be educated, or should the government have that right?

There is no more important question in American politics than this one. Our answer to it will determine the fate of the republic.

The American Left (aided and abetted by some conservatives) believes that the government, not parents, should determine the content of a child’s mind—their ideas, their principles, and their values. A few weeks after McAuliffe’s tone-deaf faux pas, two authors writing in The Washington Post summed up the Left’s position in the title of their op-ed: “Parents claim they have the right to shape their kids’ school curriculum. They don’t.” Parents should have neither the right nor the authority, according to the Post’s writers, to determine the ideas taught to their children. This task should be left to the “experts”—to the experts of the Education Establishment. The authors go on to claim that “education should prepare young people to think for themselves, even if that runs counter to the wishes of their parents.” The question never addressed by the authors, however, is what happens when young people want to think for themselves and learn about ideas different from those taught by the government?!?! This option is, of course, strictly verboten.

Writing at Politico, three professors of medicine denounced what they called “The Dangerous Legal Illusion of ‘Parental rights’.” The authors announced that “When it comes to society’s interest in protecting children, the legal precedent is unambiguous: The rights of parents come second.” But the question is, if parents’ rights come second when it comes to protecting or educating their children, then whose rights come first? And the authors’ answer is obvious: society’s rights, the government’s rights, the rights of the public-policy experts trump those of parents.

More recently, NBC News published an essay on its website from a self-described education “expert” (she has one of those fancy Ph.D.s in “teacher education”), who denounced the idea that parents should have a “right to control teaching and learning” simply “because their children are the ones being educated.” Mocking the proposition that parents have the right to determine how, by whom, and in what their children are to be educated, our “education Ph.D.” says that education should be left to the “experts.” Then, by analogy, she absurdly claims that the idea of parents having a say in the education of their children is the equivalent of a parent “entering a surgical unit thinking [they] can interfere with an operation simply because the patient is [their] child.” She goes on to claim that teaching is a “science” and that only those trained in the teaching sciences should be permitted to determine what is taught in the schools. Since 95% plus of all parents are not licensed and certified in the “science of teaching,” they “aren’t qualified to make decisions about curricula.” Nosey parents actually hinder the certified teacher’s primary goal, which is to “teach students to think.” Therefore, she concludes, parents who aren’t qualified to teach should shut up and “keep their noses out of school curricula.”

Whose Children Are They?

But the Left’s clearest answer to the question—Should parents or the government determine the content of a child’s mind?—came a few years ago in a now infamous infomercial for socialism made by professor and TV personality Melissa Harris-Perry, who said

We have never invested as much in public education as we should have, because we’ve always had kind of a private notion of children: Your kid is yours, and totally your responsibility. We haven’t had a very collective notion of “these are our children.” So part of is we have to break through our kind of private idea that kids belong to their parents, or kids belong to their families, and recognize that kids belong to whole communities. Once it’s everybody’s responsibility, and not just the household’s, then we start making better investments.

There it is! You will not hear or read a clearer statement of the Left’s position on the rights of parents than Harris-Perry’s. If your children are actually not your children but belong to the community, then it only makes sense that the government should bear the primary responsibility for the education your children. The government, not you, has the right and therefore the authority to determine what your children think.

Harris-Perry is not an outlier in the education world. Her views are entirely mainstream and are taught in virtually all of America’s so-called “ed” schools or teacher-training institutions, and they are also promoted by various curriculum development organizations. One of the most influential of these organizations, an outfit named WestEd, has produced a chart that distinguishes what it calls “White Individualism” (= bad) from “Color Group Collectivism” (= good). One of the core values associated with “Color Group Collectivism” is that “[t]eachers have a special role to teach academics (and to inculcate morals).” In fact, the teacher should be seen as “the second mother” and parents have a responsibility to “respect teachers’ authority.” In many ways, however, the Education Establishment seeks to be your child’s “first mother,” at least during the eight hours of the school day.

So, what is the logical endpoint of the Left’s view of parents’ rights relative to the education of the “community’s” children?

Parenting by Permission

One serious possibility discussed by some on the Left is the idea of licensing parents. Let that sink in for a moment. It’s not enough that the government educates your children for 13 years (not to mention their recent attempts to provide free daycare and a college education), they also believe that parents should be educated and regulated by the State in how to be good parents, which means parents should be required to know and teach what the government thinks their children should think.

Consider what this really means in theory and practice.

A license is a special kind of permission. In this case, it’s a permission to be a parent, but this permission is contingent on the parents acquiring a certain kind of government-mandated knowledge. And just as it does when you apply for a driver’s license, the government will no doubt give you a parenting manual to study (with the all the moral-social-political values deemed important by the government), and then it will test you on what the government manual says you must know in order to be a fully-licensed parent. Such licensing may also require prospective parents to perform psychological evaluations, undergo background checks, and demonstrate a certain level of financial stability. And if you somehow manage to have a child without first getting your parenting license, your child may be forcibly taken from you by the “community” until such time as the government deems you to be a certified parent.

The hidden assumption of government schooling is that children are owned by the State, and if the State claims the ultimate right to children, then it follows that: one, parents produce children not for themselves but for the State, and, two, the State must therefore have the right and full authority to educate them. This is the inexorable, logical conclusion of America’s Left and their milksop supporters on the Right.

Think about what this means in practice. If the Left and the Education Establishment get their wish-list of programs, America’s children will start government-controlled preschool at age six months and then will continue through elementary, middle and high school until they are eighteen. For most of those who go on to college, their higher education will undoubtedly fortify the ideas and values they received from preschool to the end of high school. And then, to wrap a bow on the gift box, parents will be required to be licensed to reinforce all the values that they and their children have been taught since preschool.

Who would have thought that George Orwell’s cautionary tale against totalitarianism in 1984 is actually a how-to-manual for the Education Deep State?

“Houston, We Have a Problem!”

Over the course of the last year or two, recalcitrant American parents have been resisting the government’s efforts to usurp their authority. Ironically, it was the school COVID -19 lockdowns and online (non)learning that gave parents an opportunity to peek beneath the hood to see how the education machine actually works, and what they saw horrified them. All over the country, parents have risen up and stormed their local education Bastille. School board meetings from Savannah to Los Angeles have been taken over by parents exposing and denouncing the various forms of cultural Marxism being taught in the schools. These parents are outraged and they’re angry. What’s taken place around the country in school board meetings is akin to a grassroots intifada of ordinary people demanding accountability, sanity, change, and, most importantly, control over the education of their children.

And how has the Education Establishment responded? How far will it go in claiming its right and authority to educate your children? It has unleashed the full force of the Education Deep State against American parents.

The Education Deep State Goes Full Totalitarian

As is now well known, the day after Terry McAuliffe announced that parents should not have the right and the authority to determine what is taught to their children in America’s government schools, the National School Boards Association (NSBA) sent a letter to President Joe Biden in which it falsely claimed that there was a nationwide pandemic of “threats of violence and acts of intimidation” against school board members, administrators, and teachers. The NSBA letter went on to associate the actions of these protesting parents with “domestic terrorism.” As if this blood libel weren’t enough, the NSBA then called on the Biden administration to unleash its full power (e.g., the Department of Justice, the Department of Homeland Security, the Secret Service, the FBI’s Counterterrorism Division, and more) against America’s protesting moms. The letter called on the White House to unleash the power of the Patriot Act to thwart protesting parents.

Five days later, Attorney General Merrick Garland did just that. He ordered the FBI and America’s National Security State to mobilize its immense power against parents whose only real crime was to take seriously the education of their children. Despite providing no examples of “domestic terrorism” to support the NSBA’s absurdly unfounded claims, Garland and the Justice Department issued a press release in which it announced that the DOJ would be creating a task force “consisting of representatives from the department’s . . .

Criminal Division

National Security Division

Civil Rights Division

Executive Office for U.S. Attorneys

FBI

Community Relations Service

Office of Justice Programs

The purpose of this Star Chamber will be to “determine how federal enforcement tools can be used to prosecute these [imaginary] crimes.” To be clear, the primary “crimes” committed by these parents include asserting their rights to free speech and assembly in order to oppose what is being taught in the government schools.

This is almost certainly one of the worst abuses of government power in the history of the United States. The Biden Regime has turned the full apparatus of America’s Security State against ordinary American citizens who are challenging the hegemony of the Education Establishment.

But this story is actually worse—much worse—than I first reported here last month in my essay, A Declaration of War. It turns out that the NSBA wrote its letter with the assistance, if not at the behest, of the White House! This means the Biden White House almost certainly organized and launched a coordinated attack against American parents.

But the question is, why? Why would the Biden administration want to unleash the full force of the Leviathan State on regular parents voicing their opinions at school board meetings?

The answer is simple: because the Left’s single most important ideological-political possession is its control of America’s K-12 education system, and the only thing getting in the way of its total hegemony over the minds of America’s children is America’s parents, who are now asserting their rights and their authority over the minds of their school-age children.

It’s Do or Die

This is why the single most important issue in American politics today is the question of “rights” and education. To repeat the fundamental question: Do parents have an unalienable right to determine how, in what, and by whom their children will be educated, or does the government have the right and authority to educate America’s children?

The answer to this question represents America’s Alamo. This is where the final battle will be fought. If we lose this battle, the republic is gone. If we win, we can begin to reclaim the rights and freedoms that have been taken from us over the course of the last century.

Going Forward

In the next few weeks I will be publishing a series of essays on the subject of “rights” and how the concept applies to parents and children in the context of education. The series will include essays on (these are approximate titles):

“The Nature and Meaning of Rights”

“The Rights of Parents and Education”

“The Rights of Children and Education”

“A Parents’ Declaration of Rights”

Given the importance of these essays, I will be making them freely available to all followers of The Redneck Intellectual. Please share these essays far and wide.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43522298)



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Date: November 30th, 2021 3:20 PM
Author: domesticated cobalt fanboi affirmative action

But the question is, why? Why would the Biden administration want to unleash the full force of the Leviathan State on regular parents voicing their opinions at school board meetings?

The answer is simple: because the Left’s single most important ideological-political possession is its control of America’s K-12 education system, and the only thing getting in the way of its total hegemony over the minds of America’s children is America’s parents, who are now asserting their rights and their authority over the minds of their school-age children.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43534242)



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Date: November 30th, 2021 10:04 PM
Author: Wonderful lay mental disorder



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43536396)



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Date: November 30th, 2021 3:21 PM
Author: domesticated cobalt fanboi affirmative action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43534244)



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Date: November 30th, 2021 3:21 PM
Author: domesticated cobalt fanboi affirmative action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43534247)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 5:00 PM
Author: Fragrant Underhanded Organic Girlfriend

I sort of assume that anyone actually going along with this voted for it. I'd 100% either move or send my kids private. There is no world where letting my kids get destroyed as part of some stupid lib social engineering plan is an option. I'd move cities, jobs, even countries if I needed to for them. And these fuckwits that brag about sacrificing their children for their lib dogma are sick individuals.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43518237)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 5:18 PM
Author: Out-of-control Sweet Tailpipe Church



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43518339)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 5:22 PM
Author: Odious travel guidebook

it's not totally realistic for a lot of middle and working-class people to just 'do homeschool, bro' or up and move to a 'better school district'.

there are a lot of clueless people whose kids will get ensnared in this and never recover. spending 5 developmentally formative years in this nightmare is enough to ruin a life (which is precisely what its architects count on).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43518370)



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Date: November 28th, 2021 1:14 AM
Author: umber bossy digit ratio

You buy your kid a cheap car and they drive to a different school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43520737)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 5:26 PM
Author: Excitant Bawdyhouse

If overnight your home gets zoned to a 1/10 school, you are fucked. Your resale value has taken a massive dicking already. So now you are faced with selling your home for uch less than expected and moving. Not something everyone can do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43518388)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 5:58 PM
Author: Crimson mind-boggling school quadroon

I’d like to see a before/after map of the redistricting - how brazen are libs right now in these efforts? I have kids in a really good public elementary school, and all the other ones close by are very good and not “diverse” at all. The nearest dindu one is maybe 12-15 miles away.

I want to say that any redistricting like this that could happen to me would at worst put my kids in a slightly less coveted school nearby… but with today’s libs, nothing is off the table.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43518584)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 7:11 PM
Author: Fragrant Underhanded Organic Girlfriend

"how brazen are libs right now in these efforts?"

Do you really need to ask?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43518974)



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Date: November 28th, 2021 8:36 AM
Author: contagious up-to-no-good selfie fat ankles

If they really go full 70s style forced bussing, no one is safe. Some kids were bussed as far as 40-50 miles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43521126)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 11:12 PM
Author: Fighting insecure institution

Not in MN. You can open enroll in great school districts, you just need to get to/from school on your own. Neighborhoods even charter busses if they live on the border so it’s pretty seamless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43520202)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 11:54 PM
Author: violent silver theater blood rage

They still have a limited number of ‘slots’ for open enrollment, I’ve heard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43520426)



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Date: November 28th, 2021 8:01 AM
Author: Fighting insecure institution

That’s not true. The money follows the students and the admins all want as much money as possible at their schools. Read this white paper. https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1576545253/minnetonka/ji8knfcvktqdesh62wwt/MinnetonkaSchools-bythenumbersandFAQ.pdf

Minnetonka—the best district in the state—has always found a spot for people who apply and never held a lottery.

That is a 25 minute commute (against traffic) from awful Brooklyn Center schools to attend what’s probably one of the top 50 public high schools in the country. (It’s median ACT score equates to like a 1360 SAT, which is on par with non-elite private schools like Taft.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43521097)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 6:12 PM
Author: Laughsome lodge

I'm going to assume that most people with a Minneapolis mailing address are Democrats because Republicans wouldn't bother buying in the city to start with, likely ever since the 1980s. These parents are going to be liberal Democrats, so yes, they voted for this. And they're learning this the very hard way both with their kids and the value of their houses. But sometimes that's what it takes.

The bizarre thing is that it was done before in the 1970s in cities across America and we all know what happened - suburban flight accelerated, people with money fled to private schools. And somehow progressives think today is going to be different? It will be interesting to see what happens with this school in the next few years.

My kids' district in CA is 50% white, 30% Asian, 10% Hispanic, and there is only one high school. There's no way social engineering in the name of equity can be done unless the state takes over all the schools. Of course, we had to pay $2M for a house to get this security, which also sucks but at least I get some peace of mind and freedom from the progressive zealots.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43518659)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 6:18 PM
Author: Electric Sable Native Indirect Expression

They will just start bringing in section 8 blacks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43518689)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 7:15 PM
Author: Fragrant Underhanded Organic Girlfriend

tcr. We have millions of refugees coming. They're from places like Somalia, Afghanistan, El Salvador, Haiti, etc.

They have to go somewhere. Guess where they're going to put them? A town in CA like this seems like a great target.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43518996)



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Date: November 28th, 2021 11:37 AM
Author: Out-of-control Sweet Tailpipe Church

No they are flooding red areas with immigrants

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43521642)



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Date: November 30th, 2021 12:33 AM
Author: Fragrant Underhanded Organic Girlfriend

They're still flooding blue areas with immigrants too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43531083)



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Date: November 28th, 2021 11:23 AM
Author: Unholy Factory Reset Button



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Date: November 27th, 2021 9:56 PM
Author: appetizing multi-billionaire nursing home

shit just got very real if Edinburgh tp is poasting on topics like this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43519855)



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Date: November 28th, 2021 11:27 AM
Author: twisted vivacious shrine reading party

He still doesn't seem to appreciate the significance of his correct assertion that "[t]here's no way social engineering in the name of equity can be done unless the state takes over all the schools."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43521610)



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Date: November 28th, 2021 11:39 AM
Author: Grizzly Site

shitlibs: the liberty to raise your children must give way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43521653)



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Date: November 30th, 2021 3:33 AM
Author: domesticated cobalt fanboi affirmative action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43531425)



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Date: November 30th, 2021 7:28 AM
Author: twisted vivacious shrine reading party



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43531647)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 10:55 PM
Author: angry sapphire business firm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43520097)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 5:08 PM
Author: twisted vivacious shrine reading party

None of this is new.

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/race-discrimination-race-integration-in-public-schools-nation-guards-picture-id542425403

http://www.renegadetribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/7201-990x774.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43518275)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 5:10 PM
Author: Odious travel guidebook

the demographic and political context is completely different.

it's new in scope and intensity. it's the completion of a long process that has proceeded methodically.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43518290)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 5:12 PM
Author: twisted vivacious shrine reading party

IDK about "intensity." Don't you see those rifles in the pics above?

True that it's different in scope, but that's because the project is a bit further along.

As for "the completion," lol just lol just you wait.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43518296)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 7:15 PM
Author: Fragrant Underhanded Organic Girlfriend

IIRC, the original push was for what, 6-8 black kids carefully chosen to be maximally unobjectionable?

Here's what we're dealing with today: https://tcf.org/content/commentary/school-discipline-without-racial-equity-discrimination/?session=1



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43519003)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 9:09 PM
Author: twisted vivacious shrine reading party

Now fast forward about fifty years projecting from current fertility rates and immigration patterns.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43519602)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 9:45 PM
Author: slap-happy private investor international law enforcement agency

"If white families want to be a part of that environment, they are welcome, she said. But if they cannot see all that she sees in her school — teenagers laughing and fist bumping, advanced classes filled with students of color — she is undeterred."

not mentioned: their fists are bumping the white kids' skulls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43519799)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 11:36 PM
Author: Yellow Provocative Crackhouse Marketing Idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43520334)



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Date: November 27th, 2021 11:48 PM
Author: Fragrant Underhanded Organic Girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43520400)



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Date: November 28th, 2021 9:34 AM
Author: Grizzly Site

"advanced classes filled with students of color"

white parents see that all the time. they're called "Asians."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43521233)



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Date: November 30th, 2021 10:09 PM
Author: Wonderful lay mental disorder



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43536425)



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Date: November 28th, 2021 12:32 AM
Author: unhinged newt voyeur

Libs are sick and lol @ them burying the paragraph in there that they are going to force this on the whole metro area soon due to some "legal settlement"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43520613)



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Date: November 30th, 2021 2:04 AM
Author: marvelous trust fund crotch

Ljl suburbmos fucked

In Colorado they banned Denver from annexing any more surrounding areas to prevent them from using these communities to desegregate schools

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poundstone_Amendment

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43531308)



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Date: November 30th, 2021 1:23 PM
Author: Misunderstood Immigrant

This is enticing

Should I move to Denver burbs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43533560)



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Date: November 28th, 2021 1:35 AM
Author: Indigo school cafeteria alpha

Thread title had me really excited

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43520788)



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Date: November 30th, 2021 3:40 AM
Author: domesticated cobalt fanboi affirmative action

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_mentality

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43531438)



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Date: November 30th, 2021 3:41 AM
Author: domesticated cobalt fanboi affirmative action

Midwestern Camp of the Saints circa 2021 or: Camp of the Scandis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43531440)



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Date: November 30th, 2021 3:32 PM
Author: soul-stirring jade filthpig associate

It's become a cliche, but it really is true: stuff like this can only happen if enough people allow it to. In Virginia parents said no more, and now they have a new governor because they finally got sick of lunatics running their schools.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43534294)



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Date: November 30th, 2021 4:07 PM
Author: marvelous trust fund crotch

Lol @ this happening in Minnesota

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43534484)



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Date: November 30th, 2021 4:11 PM
Author: Indigo school cafeteria alpha

Who really has insight into Minnesota? It's a huge state full of people who live spread out who never talk to each other. Even in the cities it seems like people live in these sprawling suburbs with no sidewalks. Even if you live there and feel plugged in, how can you know what anyone else is thinking when people are either really quiet or pretend to be really stupid when they meet you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973434&forum_id=2#43534509)



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Date: November 30th, 2021 4:14 PM
Author: marvelous trust fund crotch

Very sad

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Date: November 30th, 2021 4:16 PM
Author: bipolar kitchen laser beams

They voted for this and so they deserve this

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