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2021 - Solo Attorney - Revenue check-in

This is for solos only...not those with multiple salaried at...
Lemon location
  12/03/21
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Lemon location
  12/03/21
about $530K but i have a lot of overhead
misunderstood abusive useless brakes trailer park
  12/03/21
what yr are you as solo? congrats!
Lemon location
  12/03/21
...
tan abode
  12/03/21
I'm at $0 for the year. Actually maybe I had 2-3 delayed che...
Hot Depressive Digit Ratio
  12/03/21
It's me plus one partner (no other attorneys) 800k with ...
Dashing Area
  12/03/21
About 1.5 mil in fees this year. Purposefully pushing a big ...
jade bat shit crazy jap selfie
  12/03/21
Explain how I can buy an office building. What's the value o...
Lemon location
  12/07/21
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Lemon location
  12/08/21
So I should know more about the specifics of this given that...
jade bat shit crazy jap selfie
  12/08/21
180000
Black toaster
  12/08/21
Any tenants or just you?
dead wrinkle
  12/08/21
I have a staff of 4 + me. I do have an extra office that I m...
jade bat shit crazy jap selfie
  12/08/21
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dead wrinkle
  12/08/21
Your doing it wrong. Your operating business should be a ...
Dashing Area
  12/08/21
that's what I'm doing but I will admit I don't have it all q...
jade bat shit crazy jap selfie
  12/11/21
It's not the proper way. I told you the proper way itt.
Dashing Area
  12/12/21
Tons of solo pumo millionaires on XO
galvanic institution
  12/03/21
...
Lemon location
  12/07/21
Not sure, but working on getting a judgment that will basica...
Offensive shaky organic girlfriend
  12/07/21
$620k so far for the year. Third year as a solo post-bi...
carmine disturbing fat ankles giraffe
  12/08/21
...
carmine disturbing fat ankles giraffe
  12/08/21
I am technically a solo attorney. $0.
Cordovan Milk
  12/08/21
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Citrine violent stain station
  12/08/21
About $140k
poppy magical hominid degenerate
  12/08/21
Current legal fees so far this year are $8,930,479.99 accord...
Gay pervert business firm
  12/08/21
answer mah office building question CSLG
jade bat shit crazy jap selfie
  12/08/21
Waste of money to buy a building where I am. Costs are reall...
Gay pervert business firm
  12/08/21
Very fair. Curious how the apartment game goes.
jade bat shit crazy jap selfie
  12/08/21
(read comp masterman)
Narrow-minded sweet tailpipe
  12/08/21
not a lawyer but revenue was $540k this year
heady low-t university sandwich
  12/08/21
$40,267.10 YTD.
frisky erotic whorehouse psychic
  12/08/21
I should be over $100k in revenue after this month's billing...
Nighttime Razzle-dazzle Principal's Office Gaping
  12/08/21
180
Citrine violent stain station
  12/08/21
pales in comparison to the bros ITT though
Nighttime Razzle-dazzle Principal's Office Gaping
  12/08/21
Do you think you'll be able to expand next year?
galvanic institution
  12/08/21
yes. the pace is picking up big time right now. I barely hav...
Nighttime Razzle-dazzle Principal's Office Gaping
  12/08/21
What's your rate?
frisky erotic whorehouse psychic
  12/09/21
under $300/hour and it will still be under $300/hour after I...
Nighttime Razzle-dazzle Principal's Office Gaping
  12/09/21
Do you get resistance from clients regarding your rate?
frisky erotic whorehouse psychic
  12/09/21
most of the time they are like "oh ok" since my ra...
Nighttime Razzle-dazzle Principal's Office Gaping
  12/09/21
I'm hoping to clear $25k-$30k by the end of the year, but th...
Anal honey-headed main people
  12/08/21
Practice area?
galvanic institution
  12/08/21
not terrible way to start. keep it up
Nighttime Razzle-dazzle Principal's Office Gaping
  12/08/21
keep it up man
heady low-t university sandwich
  12/09/21
Between 1 - 2 years in. Clearing between 150k and 170k depen...
Comical emerald rigpig
  12/08/21
Let me know if you’re open to cross-referral of cases....
Lemon location
  12/09/21
42k (TSINAH)
abnormal mahogany hospital
  12/08/21


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Date: December 3rd, 2021 11:38 AM
Author: Lemon location

This is for solos only...not those with multiple salaried attys on staff. 1099's are ok.

What's your 2021 revenue shaping up to be?

I'm at multi-m as a true solo. Have more cases in a similar vein that we'll be preparing to file soon to try to capitalize on the payday in 2022.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43551291)



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Date: December 3rd, 2021 1:00 PM
Author: Lemon location



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43551825)



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Date: December 3rd, 2021 1:05 PM
Author: misunderstood abusive useless brakes trailer park

about $530K but i have a lot of overhead

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43551874)



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Date: December 3rd, 2021 1:10 PM
Author: Lemon location

what yr are you as solo? congrats!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43551920)



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Date: December 3rd, 2021 1:06 PM
Author: tan abode



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43551889)



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Date: December 3rd, 2021 1:14 PM
Author: Hot Depressive Digit Ratio

I'm at $0 for the year. Actually maybe I had 2-3 delayed checks for one case I cashed this year, cant remember. Permitted a payment plan for one settlement cause of Covid. That wld only be 3-4k tops, so that's my revenue.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43551946)



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Date: December 3rd, 2021 1:28 PM
Author: Dashing Area

It's me plus one partner (no other attorneys)

800k with 350k expenses, although 100k expenses are rent we pay to the LLC we own.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43552071)



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Date: December 3rd, 2021 1:30 PM
Author: jade bat shit crazy jap selfie

About 1.5 mil in fees this year. Purposefully pushing a big chunk back into next year. Next year should be 2-3 mil.

Expenses about 500k but a lot of that goes into assets. Bought a super cool office building this year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43552079)



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Date: December 7th, 2021 5:19 PM
Author: Lemon location

Explain how I can buy an office building. What's the value of that to you after purchase? I have 4-5M in revenue this year and want to desperately reduce my tax exposure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43574840)



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Date: December 8th, 2021 1:09 AM
Author: Lemon location



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43576800)



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Date: December 8th, 2021 4:00 PM
Author: jade bat shit crazy jap selfie

So I should know more about the specifics of this given that I recently did it but here goes.

I bought my office building for 700k at the end of 2020. This is my first full year with it.

I pay myself (separate holding company) the exact amount of my mortgage every month. That gets written off as an expense (but as income for holding co but more than zero'd out by below write offs).

~3% of building value automatically written off as depreciation each year.

I paid ~$100k to renovate the building. All written off/depreciated + adds value to asset.

Mortgage interest written off (I think).

Paid ~50k for furniture etc for office. All written off + depreciated I think.

All utilities/improvements/repairs get written off through holding co. Holding co should be a net loss each year if you're doing it right.

Ideally your office building gains value. A lot across the street that is ~60% my lot's size just sold for a mil. I am in an area with crazy growth tho. Lucky timing.

I'm going to buy a nice monument sign, add siding, etc next year. Prob another 100k written off + value added.

Add all that up and I'll estimate I reduced my net income by ~200-300k in the first year while actually gaining value.

Probably some more stuff too. They gave me a MONSTER fire insurance policy on it so if it ever burns down I get paid.

Happy to revisit this once I get my final taxes. I'm curious as to the total value myself but it seems like a no brainer if you have the $ and need write offs. Plus if I ever need to I can take out a loan against its value down the road.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43579546)



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Date: December 8th, 2021 4:16 PM
Author: Black toaster

180000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43579627)



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Date: December 8th, 2021 4:17 PM
Author: dead wrinkle

Any tenants or just you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43579630)



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Date: December 8th, 2021 4:18 PM
Author: jade bat shit crazy jap selfie

I have a staff of 4 + me. I do have an extra office that I may rent out to a buddy at some point. Call it $1k a month.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43579636)



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Date: December 8th, 2021 7:09 PM
Author: dead wrinkle

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43580400)



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Date: December 8th, 2021 7:54 PM
Author: Dashing Area

Your doing it wrong.

Your operating business should be a tenant to your real estate llc under a triple net lease. Your firm pays insurance, taxes, upkeep, and maintenance. Anything you can think of gets paid by the firm. And you pay your holding co the maximum amount of rent possible.

This is because it reduces your income in the operating biz, which is subject to payroll tax. You still pay the same income tax on your holding co, but you can avoid payroll tax. Also, you make sure you can cop that sweet depreciation in the holding corp.

If you have a cpa and they didn’t tell you this, fire them. Otherwise, get a cpa.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43580595)



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Date: December 11th, 2021 7:20 PM
Author: jade bat shit crazy jap selfie

that's what I'm doing but I will admit I don't have it all quite figured out yet. I suppose I could raise the "rent" to above the mortgage but figured this makes sense to start.

Everything expense wise is paid through firm. I write mortgage checks from my firm operating account. Not sure if that's the proper way to do it.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43594506)



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Date: December 12th, 2021 2:33 PM
Author: Dashing Area

It's not the proper way. I told you the proper way itt.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43597447)



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Date: December 3rd, 2021 1:32 PM
Author: galvanic institution

Tons of solo pumo millionaires on XO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43552098)



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Date: December 7th, 2021 5:18 PM
Author: Lemon location



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43574830)



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Date: December 7th, 2021 5:19 PM
Author: Offensive shaky organic girlfriend

Not sure, but working on getting a judgment that will basically double it. Other side will surely drag it out into next year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43574841)



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Date: December 8th, 2021 1:11 AM
Author: carmine disturbing fat ankles giraffe

$620k so far for the year.

Third year as a solo post-biglaw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43576803)



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Date: December 8th, 2021 1:57 PM
Author: carmine disturbing fat ankles giraffe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43578922)



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Date: December 8th, 2021 1:58 PM
Author: Cordovan Milk

I am technically a solo attorney. $0.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43578929)



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Date: December 8th, 2021 4:19 PM
Author: Citrine violent stain station

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43579640)



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Date: December 8th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: poppy magical hominid degenerate

About $140k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43579580)



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Date: December 8th, 2021 4:08 PM
Author: Gay pervert business firm

Current legal fees so far this year are $8,930,479.99 according to Quickbooks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43579594)



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Date: December 8th, 2021 4:09 PM
Author: jade bat shit crazy jap selfie

answer mah office building question CSLG

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43579600)



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Date: December 8th, 2021 4:10 PM
Author: Gay pervert business firm

Waste of money to buy a building where I am. Costs are really high and the cap rates are really low. There is a ton of unrented office space in the area and the price per square foot is super cheap to rent. I just did a new lease for $2.15/sq foot for 4,500 feet. Id rather put my money into stocks/crypto/apartments.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43579607)



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Date: December 8th, 2021 4:11 PM
Author: jade bat shit crazy jap selfie

Very fair. Curious how the apartment game goes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43579612)



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Date: December 8th, 2021 4:13 PM
Author: Narrow-minded sweet tailpipe

(read comp masterman)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43579617)



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Date: December 8th, 2021 4:11 PM
Author: heady low-t university sandwich

not a lawyer but revenue was $540k this year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43579609)



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Date: December 8th, 2021 4:21 PM
Author: frisky erotic whorehouse psychic

$40,267.10 YTD.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43579652)



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Date: December 8th, 2021 7:12 PM
Author: Nighttime Razzle-dazzle Principal's Office Gaping

I should be over $100k in revenue after this month's billing, assuming they pay before the end of the year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43580417)



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Date: December 8th, 2021 7:24 PM
Author: Citrine violent stain station

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43580461)



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Date: December 8th, 2021 7:42 PM
Author: Nighttime Razzle-dazzle Principal's Office Gaping

pales in comparison to the bros ITT though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43580538)



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Date: December 8th, 2021 7:47 PM
Author: galvanic institution

Do you think you'll be able to expand next year?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43580563)



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Date: December 8th, 2021 8:38 PM
Author: Nighttime Razzle-dazzle Principal's Office Gaping

yes. the pace is picking up big time right now. I barely have any time for anything during the day anymore and am working my ass off. I have multiple contingency cases going on right now that hopefully will start to see fruition soon. I intend to raise my rates a little bit in 2022, and be a lot more selective in what I take.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43580767)



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Date: December 9th, 2021 4:24 PM
Author: frisky erotic whorehouse psychic

What's your rate?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43584601)



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Date: December 9th, 2021 5:09 PM
Author: Nighttime Razzle-dazzle Principal's Office Gaping

under $300/hour and it will still be under $300/hour after I raise it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43584814)



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Date: December 9th, 2021 5:12 PM
Author: frisky erotic whorehouse psychic

Do you get resistance from clients regarding your rate?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43584827)



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Date: December 9th, 2021 7:37 PM
Author: Nighttime Razzle-dazzle Principal's Office Gaping

most of the time they are like "oh ok" since my rate is lower than a lot of my solo peers with similar experience.

If its some complete low income shitlaw client, then yeah they balk at it sometimes. But these are the types of clients that i am going to start filtering out more.

I intentionally set my rate a little lower to attract more clients in the beginning (and COVID made it really hard for most of 2020). If I get up to $300/hour this year, great, but I am happy getting much less than that since I keep it all. I have a contract attorney gig as well helping out a local whiz kid where I get all the hours I want for $125 an hour, and that has been helpful to my bottom line and I'm getting some pretty high level lit experience with it. Although I would love to get busy enough with my own stuff that I don't have to do this anymore.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43585497)



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Date: December 8th, 2021 7:46 PM
Author: Anal honey-headed main people

I'm hoping to clear $25k-$30k by the end of the year, but that represents only about six months' worth of income. I went solo in May. I obviously don't compare with other poasters on this thread, but I guess you have to start somewhere.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43580555)



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Date: December 8th, 2021 7:47 PM
Author: galvanic institution

Practice area?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43580560)



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Date: December 8th, 2021 7:48 PM
Author: Nighttime Razzle-dazzle Principal's Office Gaping

not terrible way to start. keep it up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43580564)



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Date: December 9th, 2021 6:19 PM
Author: heady low-t university sandwich

keep it up man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43585165)



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Date: December 8th, 2021 9:13 PM
Author: Comical emerald rigpig

Between 1 - 2 years in. Clearing between 150k and 170k depending on some corp defendants fold before the new year

How do I organically get more PI/maritime cases in California?

I keep making not great cases (pure property damage, real estate lit, landlord-tenant) pay but wow, it makes it hard to market when 90% of your time is spend sniping defense attorneys' motion to dismiss/demurrer with WestLaw and fielding clients calls asking for updates---



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43580930)



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Date: December 9th, 2021 5:23 PM
Author: Lemon location

Let me know if you’re open to cross-referral of cases. I come across PI cases every so often in CA. I do commercial / biz lit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43584876)



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Date: December 8th, 2021 9:14 PM
Author: abnormal mahogany hospital

42k (TSINAH)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4977905&forum_id=2#43580934)