Single shot J&J is objectively the optimal response to covid imo
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Date: December 6th, 2021 7:13 PM Author: dashing maroon therapy
At least if you're a man under 45. If you're older than that or have other comorbitidies you should probably double up and booster up on one of the MRNA vaccines.
Single shot J&J lets you dodge the uncertainty around MRNA vaccines, provides enough immunity to trivialize the health impacts of the virus, but still gives ample opportunity to catch a mild case of breakthrough covid. Then you're double immune while having minimized side effects.
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Date: December 6th, 2021 7:19 PM Author: dashing maroon therapy
symptoms from actual covid are worse and tail risk is generally worse too
most people I know who got it pre-vaccines said it was pretty terrible with weird lingering side effects. Not "about to die" terrible, but "would rather avoid" terrible.
Ideal outcome is to balance covid symptom minimization against vaccine side effects without severely impacting your chance at developing natural immunity. J&J accomplishes that
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Date: December 6th, 2021 7:17 PM Author: Honey-headed area
No it isn’t, Jew.
The plan is for endless boosters. Cucking for J&J, which itself is a harmful vaccine = no way out from endless boosters.
The only way out is through God. Take your religious exemption and do not let any of this poison enter your body.
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Date: December 6th, 2021 7:26 PM Author: twisted gay wizard french chef
All of the vaccines produce overlapping antibodies. Beyond that it's anyone's guess whether LAV is any better or safer than mRNA because the data are pure shit. We used LAV for polio, and now vaccine resistant polio is popping up.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/polio/hcp/vaccine-derived-poliovirus-faq.html
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Date: December 6th, 2021 7:33 PM Author: Abusive feces
people here are extremist about it and a lot think it's a rebranded flu. i was sick with something in july - the testing methodology is bullshit so who knows what it was but it was not the fucking flu.
that being said, ivermectin is the cure. avoid the vax on the grounds that it's not very effective at its stated purpose.
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Date: December 6th, 2021 10:09 PM Author: sienna naked idea he suggested yarmulke
Date: December 6th, 2021 10:08 PM
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Date: December 6th, 2021 9:11 PM Author: dashing maroon therapy
It's the combo of weak prevention of re-infection + highly durable prevention of serious symptoms
You eliminate your tail risk of serious covid illness, trivialize any infection you do get, while retaining the ability to acquire natural immunity.
It's the "moneyball" approach to covid, if you will.
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Date: December 7th, 2021 3:35 PM Author: twisted gay wizard french chef
I don't think that's right. You're taking the A out of LAV, but you've still selected a particular variant based on characteristics unique to that variant. That's going to put selection pressure on the virus to evolve around that variant, the same way it evolves around LAVs. The whole concept of "vaccination" needs to be junked at this stage, and only revisited once we've come to a better THEORETICAL understanding of our adversary.
There's a mathematical logic to this I've been trying to explain to people. To understand this I think you have to understand "mutation load" and the debate surrounding it. For example, conventional wisdom says we only "use" <20% of our genetic code. The rest is just hanging around. But I think that's totally false.
I'm not sure if you're aware of debates on this, but it gets mathematical pretty quickly. I think we need to adopt a quantum understanding of viral genomics to get anywhere at this stage. Avian flu studies probably offer the best way of understanding this right now, but we could also be collecting MUCH data on COVID, data no one is even thinking to collect right now.
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Date: December 7th, 2021 9:47 AM Author: Sick heady theater
why the fuck would someone with natural immunity subject themselves to the potential side effects from a "booster"?
does a booster in naturally immunemos REALLY amp up protection from Covid?
if so, does it increase protection to a degree that makes the risk/benefit worthwhile?
for someone who has already shown they can recover from Covid?
and how long does that supposed "extra" protection last?
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Date: December 7th, 2021 6:59 PM Author: frisky cruise ship
https://eugyppius.substack.com/p/more-on-original-antigenic-sin-and
"Original Antigenic Sin has been famously implicated in dengue fever. This is considered to be an extreme case of the phenomenon, with “considerable bearing on vaccine strategies.” Here the conclusions are ominous and full of implications for our own situation:
Once a response has been established, it is unlikely that repeat boosting will be able to change its scope, meaning that balanced responses against the four virus serotypes will need to be established with the first vaccine dose.
The danger is that immunity to one strain alone may lead to permanently impaired immune response to the three other serotypes, causing worse and longer illness"
This analysis suggests vaccine after infection does not increase resistance, but vaccine first permanently limits your antibodies to the antigens of the orginal strain and suppresses the ability to generate antibodies specific to later ones.
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