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Real estate MFEs: What would u do in this multiple offer / bidding war situation

house listed last tuesday for 850. that evening we bid 86...
topaz fantasy-prone market
  01/04/22
no, you lost out to no one. you lost to a shrewd ass agent w...
navy gay wizard lay
  01/04/22
Pretty common in SF but the house would be 2-5 million not 8...
hairraiser sexy university
  01/04/22
that just proves shitlibs are retarded, esp. in sf.
navy gay wizard lay
  01/04/22
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zombie-like lascivious lodge
  01/04/22
Lol in any competitive market people waive inspection. What ...
topaz fantasy-prone market
  01/04/22
if you were going to get financing, will your bank allow you...
navy gay wizard lay
  01/04/22
Lol you have no clue how any of this works and don’t k...
topaz fantasy-prone market
  01/04/22
every lender, in states that i know of, require inspection b...
navy gay wizard lay
  01/04/22
lol you dont get it still. let me try to humor you and expla...
topaz fantasy-prone market
  01/04/22
if your own inspection comes back with major damage, and the...
navy gay wizard lay
  01/04/22
again, you sound retarded because you're mixing up terminolo...
topaz fantasy-prone market
  01/04/22
but you are the dumbass waiving inspection.
navy gay wizard lay
  01/04/22
link to me waiving inspection? op says: " with a 7 d...
topaz fantasy-prone market
  01/04/22
nice edit, loser.
navy gay wizard lay
  01/04/22
for the record, the edit was "u're coming off dumb ...
topaz fantasy-prone market
  01/04/22
edit in the original post you fucking nitwit. note the line ...
navy gay wizard lay
  01/04/22
it's been in there the entire time, you idiot. you must have...
topaz fantasy-prone market
  01/04/22
ok. i guess EVERY SINGLE OTHER POSTER in this thread telling...
navy gay wizard lay
  01/04/22
they're telling me not to waive inspection BECAUSE THE SELLE...
topaz fantasy-prone market
  01/04/22
because your entire line of arguments was based on the commo...
navy gay wizard lay
  01/04/22
you keep moving the goalpoasts. you're done here.
topaz fantasy-prone market
  01/04/22
actually you are the idiot who hasnt been able to put togeth...
navy gay wizard lay
  01/04/22
"we've been making offers in 5 different markets for a ...
topaz fantasy-prone market
  01/04/22
he isn't very bright.
Flickering massive pisswyrm
  01/04/22
which poaster is this? dont recognize him
topaz fantasy-prone market
  01/04/22
Not sure. I think he's new. Claims to be Taiwanese. Often se...
Flickering massive pisswyrm
  01/04/22
Not reading the whole subthread but generally you're wrong F...
abnormal mint milk
  01/06/22
the poaster to whom ur responding is an utter moron. no sens...
topaz fantasy-prone market
  01/06/22
"Lol in any competitive market people waive inspection....
zombie-like lascivious lodge
  01/04/22
i agree it's retarded to waive inspection and no non-profess...
topaz fantasy-prone market
  01/04/22
I've had these people involved in bidding. The only way the...
zombie-like lascivious lodge
  01/04/22
MFE here: I'm guessing its the financing contingency rather ...
cerise stead
  01/04/22
What if some bank retard does fuck something up and there&rs...
topaz fantasy-prone market
  01/04/22
if you waive the contingency it doesnt matter from the selle...
cerise stead
  01/04/22
With a 21 day close and a financing contingent, seller can t...
topaz fantasy-prone market
  01/04/22
it's called a deposit, not an "escrow", prole.
Ivory infuriating pit goyim
  01/04/22
harsh but fair "escrow money" would be fine usa...
topaz fantasy-prone market
  01/04/22
More info: seller’s agent said the original winner nev...
topaz fantasy-prone market
  01/04/22
Offer 870 and say you’ll throw in a blowjob.
Unholy sapphire church
  01/04/22
From me or the wife? Or both?
topaz fantasy-prone market
  01/04/22
You should offer a prostate stim
hairraiser sexy university
  01/04/22
Offer $870K + $5K kicker but get rid of the financing contin...
autistic adventurous hall gunner
  01/04/22
What if we’re unwilling to waive the financing conting...
topaz fantasy-prone market
  01/04/22
You’re going to be uncompetitive against all cash offe...
shimmering property mental disorder
  01/04/22
yeah i agree. we did put 25% down and showed proof of funds ...
topaz fantasy-prone market
  01/04/22
This . Do not waive physical inspection period
shimmering property mental disorder
  01/04/22
we'd never. and we can't waive the financing contingency...
topaz fantasy-prone market
  01/04/22
dont waive inspection but offer not to request repair/discou...
Transparent mentally impaired crotch
  01/04/22
do u law? that would be a meaningless / unenforceable provis...
topaz fantasy-prone market
  01/04/22
dont be autistic, this isnt a question of enforceability but...
Transparent mentally impaired crotch
  01/04/22
i see what you're saying but everyone knows that in this sel...
topaz fantasy-prone market
  01/04/22
Richard is right. We got our ski house using an offer like ...
histrionic duck-like digit ratio twinkling uncleanness
  01/04/22
i guess i can see that making a difference as a gesture if t...
topaz fantasy-prone market
  01/04/22
its not just old couples that dont want to have to mediate p...
Transparent mentally impaired crotch
  01/04/22
but a sophisticated / professional seller would know the cla...
topaz fantasy-prone market
  01/04/22
thats pretty much irrelevant, everyone knows this shit isnt ...
Transparent mentally impaired crotch
  01/04/22
"Non-serious" offerors are a real thing. It seems...
histrionic duck-like digit ratio twinkling uncleanness
  01/04/22
tyft; always like ur anecdotes. how did your buyers manage t...
topaz fantasy-prone market
  01/04/22
Escalation clauses over $1 are fucking stupid, you're throwi...
Electric garrison boistinker
  01/04/22
in a bidding war, sellers might not want to deal with escala...
topaz fantasy-prone market
  01/04/22
Make a lower bid than your initial. In my experience realto...
Filthy ruddy center
  01/04/22
yeah, these realtors are idiots and obviously they picked th...
topaz fantasy-prone market
  01/04/22
Lol at this moron bidding against himself
insanely creepy grizzly marketing idea idiot
  01/04/22
yeah there's one bidder in a highly competitive market.
topaz fantasy-prone market
  01/04/22
You're seriously stupid if you don't understand that you wer...
zombie-like lascivious lodge
  01/04/22
yeah we were the only bidder in this highly competitive mark...
topaz fantasy-prone market
  01/04/22
FYI - they take the property off the market so when dumb buy...
zombie-like lascivious lodge
  01/06/22
Agents don't do that in the hope of getting an extra $100.
Black puppy boiling water
  01/06/22
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zombie-like lascivious lodge
  01/04/22
I think its retarded to pay over asking price. Would u buy a...
drab affirmative action
  01/04/22
(boomer who last bought a house in 1982) lol 21 day closi...
topaz fantasy-prone market
  01/04/22
Bullshit, and I'm starting to think you're flame.
zombie-like lascivious lodge
  01/04/22
can 100% close that fast. ive closed on land faster than 21 ...
Comical water buffalo prole
  01/04/22
Lol I think maybe the market's changed since you bought back...
histrionic duck-like digit ratio twinkling uncleanness
  01/04/22
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Transparent mentally impaired crotch
  01/04/22
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topaz fantasy-prone market
  01/04/22
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Flickering massive pisswyrm
  01/04/22
This poster bought in the past year.
zombie-like lascivious lodge
  01/04/22
Yeah I paid asking and appraisal passed. Because the bank ke...
drab affirmative action
  01/04/22
don't knwo what market ur in and that probably matters. ...
Ivory infuriating pit goyim
  01/04/22
Actually if the bank is taking too long to approve their loa...
drab affirmative action
  01/04/22
if u truly want the property, buy it, as is, no regrets--nob...
racy dun liquid oxygen mother
  01/04/22
that's a bad idea. i know someone who closed on a deal a co...
Ivory infuriating pit goyim
  01/04/22
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zombie-like lascivious lodge
  01/04/22
some obvious shit can be found out during an inspection. thi...
topaz fantasy-prone market
  01/04/22
It turns out the entire roof was just paper
Unholy sapphire church
  01/04/22
Or outright needs to be entirely replaced and has structural...
zombie-like lascivious lodge
  01/04/22
How do escalation clauses work? If you say you'll pay $5k ov...
Contagious travel guidebook step-uncle's house
  01/04/22
you have the right to demand to see the competing offer that...
Transparent mentally impaired crotch
  01/04/22
usually: 1) your offer is time limited, 2) you require selle...
topaz fantasy-prone market
  01/04/22
update: went up to list + 5k escalation, didnt waive financi...
topaz fantasy-prone market
  01/06/22
sorry for ur loss--it hurts to lose a house that gets u
racy dun liquid oxygen mother
  01/06/22
it really sucks knowing that these houses are going to some ...
topaz fantasy-prone market
  01/06/22
I lost a bidding war for house in Raleigh that had the most ...
racy dun liquid oxygen mother
  01/06/22
Mortgage rates are going up now. Only an idiot would be doin...
drab affirmative action
  01/06/22
link to housing market plunging in desirable areas ?
topaz fantasy-prone market
  01/06/22
Yeah, Zillow just printed the opposite. We're also seeing m...
zombie-like lascivious lodge
  01/06/22
i dont trust zillow, but i dont see why the housing market o...
topaz fantasy-prone market
  01/06/22
Well, I would add "as long as money is being heavily pr...
zombie-like lascivious lodge
  01/06/22
...
topaz fantasy-prone market
  01/06/22
Inflation is the key here. Lock in the low rate/price and p...
misanthropic boyish turdskin
  01/06/22


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Date: January 4th, 2022 8:26 AM
Author: topaz fantasy-prone market

house listed last tuesday for 850.

that evening we bid 865 with an escalation clause agreeing to beat the next highest offer by $2500, with a 7 day inspection, 25% down, 21 day close, financing contingency, appraisal contingency waived

the next morning, seller's agent asks our agent if we'll waive our inspection and financing contingencies. our agent replies that we aren't.

that afternoon, house goes pending. our agent emails seller's agent to get more info, and he totally ghosts our agent.

this morning, house is relisted back on the market with a price increase to 870

our agent tried to probe the seller's agent for more info, and he's being really coy.

what would you offer now if you want the house? we're thinking 870 with a 5k escalation clause.

we assume we lost out to a similar or slightly lower cash offer that also didn't waive inspection contingency.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43725771)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 9:19 AM
Author: navy gay wizard lay

no, you lost out to no one. you lost to a shrewd ass agent who is increasing her commission. who would waive inspection on an almost $1mm home? the fact that the seller's agent ghosted your agent says it all...that he is a shady unprofessional cunt.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43725879)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 9:23 AM
Author: hairraiser sexy university

Pretty common in SF but the house would be 2-5 million not 850k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43725888)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 9:24 AM
Author: navy gay wizard lay

that just proves shitlibs are retarded, esp. in sf.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43725894)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 3:27 PM
Author: zombie-like lascivious lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43727997)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 9:41 AM
Author: topaz fantasy-prone market

Lol in any competitive market people waive inspection. What planet are you on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43725965)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 9:48 AM
Author: navy gay wizard lay

if you were going to get financing, will your bank allow you to waive inspection?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43725996)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 10:08 AM
Author: topaz fantasy-prone market

Lol you have no clue how any of this works and don’t know the terminology and the process.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43726096)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 10:36 AM
Author: navy gay wizard lay

every lender, in states that i know of, require inspection because they dont want to finance property that has major damage such as foundation issues, asbestos, etc. because if the borrower defaults, the bank is stuck playing repairman, or even worse, with a property under water financially.

the fact that you are willing to waive inspection and just "eyeball" the property means that you are paying cash, and buying as-is. any fucking idiot would have a used car checked out by a professional, but "competitive real estate markets" forego this due diligence because, like you, they are fucking stupid and have no idea what they are fucking doing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43726260)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 11:22 AM
Author: topaz fantasy-prone market

lol you dont get it still. let me try to humor you and explain in the case that you are open to being educated.

when a buyer "waives inspection," it means that they're foregoing the right to have their own inspection within the typical 7 or 10 day inspection period. the inspection period basically allows the buyer to back out for any possible reason and/or try to renegotiate the price down. if you "waive inspection," you lose your right to back out of the deal within the option period.

if you're getting a mortgage, the bank will perform their own appraisal, require the property to be insurable, and require that the property can pass a four point inspection roof, electrical, plumbing, HVAC), etc. if you have a financing contingency and if you're denied financing because of something the bank uncovers on their own, you can get out of the contract on the basis of any financing contingency you have.

but your financing contingency doesn't give you the broad right to terminate the contract for any reason within 7 or 10 days or whatever based on your own inspection

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43726539)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 11:26 AM
Author: navy gay wizard lay

if your own inspection comes back with major damage, and the seller is unwilling to fix/compensate in an all cash scenario, you have the right to walk away from contract with earnest money. or maybe your agent was too fucking stupid to stipulate in contract.

unless you are telling me you are a trained inspector or engineer, and just relying on the bank's inspector to ok the property, let us all know when your property will be featured on the next hgtv fixer upper show.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43726552)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 11:29 AM
Author: topaz fantasy-prone market

again, you sound retarded because you're mixing up terminology. "all cash scenario" could be an all cash offer with an inspection clause or an all cash offer without an inspection clause. all cash buyers sometimes put in an inspection clause, and sometimes they waive inspection.

if the all cash buyer has an inspection clause, he can walk away if he find something in his inspection. if he doesn't have an inspection clause, i suppose he could perform an inspection on his own and walk away -- but he'll lose his earnest money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43726572)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 11:33 AM
Author: navy gay wizard lay

but you are the dumbass waiving inspection.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43726599)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 11:34 AM
Author: topaz fantasy-prone market

link to me waiving inspection?

op says: " with a 7 day inspection"

u're coming off really, really fucking dumb itt.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43726606)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 11:37 AM
Author: navy gay wizard lay

nice edit, loser.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43726628)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 11:39 AM
Author: topaz fantasy-prone market

for the record, the edit was

"u're coming off dumb itt" --> "u're coming off really, really fucking dumb itt."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43726646)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 11:40 AM
Author: navy gay wizard lay

edit in the original post you fucking nitwit. note the line of arguments immediately after op where you justify waiving inspection.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43726662)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 11:50 AM
Author: topaz fantasy-prone market

it's been in there the entire time, you idiot. you must have had poor reading comprehension.

the next sentence says "the next morning, seller's agent asks our agent if we'll waive our inspection and financing contingencies. our agent replies that we aren't."

why would we tell the seller, in response to a counteroffer that we waive inspection, that we're not waiving our inspection --- if we waived it in the first place? again, you are a total fucking moron.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43726715)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 11:53 AM
Author: navy gay wizard lay

ok. i guess EVERY SINGLE OTHER POSTER in this thread telling you to not waive inspection read it wrong as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43726728)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 11:53 AM
Author: topaz fantasy-prone market

they're telling me not to waive inspection BECAUSE THE SELLER COUNTERED that we waive inspection, you dumb fuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43726739)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 11:57 AM
Author: navy gay wizard lay

because your entire line of arguments was based on the common practice of waiving inspections in competitive markets.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43726762)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 11:59 AM
Author: topaz fantasy-prone market

you keep moving the goalpoasts. you're done here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43726777)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 12:00 PM
Author: navy gay wizard lay

actually you are the idiot who hasnt been able to put together a successful contract in five markets in over a year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43726787)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 12:21 PM
Author: topaz fantasy-prone market

"we've been making offers in 5 different markets for a year, and we bought a house last year."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43726912)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 12:18 PM
Author: Flickering massive pisswyrm

he isn't very bright.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43726884)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 12:21 PM
Author: topaz fantasy-prone market

which poaster is this? dont recognize him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43726909)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 2:46 PM
Author: Flickering massive pisswyrm

Not sure. I think he's new. Claims to be Taiwanese. Often see him arguing with TT. Initially I was intrigued but he seems wrong on most things.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43727711)



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Date: January 6th, 2022 4:39 PM
Author: abnormal mint milk

Not reading the whole subthread but generally you're wrong FYI

Buyer can walk away during inspection period for NO reason with earnest money. This is what people are talking about waiving. There is no chance for seller to argue about whether the inspection results justify walking and whether earnest deposit should go back.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43741389)



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Date: January 6th, 2022 4:45 PM
Author: topaz fantasy-prone market

the poaster to whom ur responding is an utter moron. no sense talking sense into him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43741428)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 3:26 PM
Author: zombie-like lascivious lodge

"Lol in any competitive market people waive inspection. What planet are you on."

That's retarded. I say this as someone who bought an over $1m home in a hot market.

You never, ever waive inspection. You can agree to AS-IS and still keep inspection.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43727994)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 3:35 PM
Author: topaz fantasy-prone market

i agree it's retarded to waive inspection and no non-professional purchaser should waive inspection. if you read the context, i'm saying that there are plenty of buyers -- particularly "professional" buyers like flippers, landlords, ACCBs, etc. -- in any hot market who do waive inspection and you're competing against them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43728054)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 5:46 PM
Author: zombie-like lascivious lodge

I've had these people involved in bidding. The only way they're waiving inspection is if they're underpricing the property. If they're paying top dollar for it and they aren't buying it as a teardown, they'll absolutely want an inspection.

You don't get to be a professional RE investor by being dumb.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43728945)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 8:58 AM
Author: cerise stead

MFE here: I'm guessing its the financing contingency rather than the inspection that is causing your problems.

if you can waive that you can still get a mortgage, it just doesnt depend on some bank goober fucking everything up before closing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43725818)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 9:01 AM
Author: topaz fantasy-prone market

What if some bank retard does fuck something up and there’s a delay and we can’t perform? We don’t want to lose our escrow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43725823)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 9:04 AM
Author: cerise stead

if you waive the contingency it doesnt matter from the sellers perspective. banks are slow as fuck. could be months before they do the inspection and come back with an offer, and you have to provide shitloads of nbullshit to them that drags the process out.

on your end the difference could be as little as 5,000 dollars but a seller ITE doesnt want or need to wait for some idiot penny pincher

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43725831)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 9:07 AM
Author: topaz fantasy-prone market

With a 21 day close and a financing contingent, seller can terminate and give us back our escrow if we don’t close on time. Without the financing contingency we risk losing our escrow. I’m not sure what you’re saying — you’re saying we should just risk and let do?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43725841)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 1:52 PM
Author: Ivory infuriating pit goyim

it's called a deposit, not an "escrow", prole.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43727447)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 2:12 PM
Author: topaz fantasy-prone market

harsh but fair

"escrow money" would be fine usage, but "escrow" is prole

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43727530)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 9:02 AM
Author: topaz fantasy-prone market

More info: seller’s agent said the original winner never gave their escrow deposit. Probably some asshole with cash bid on 5 places at once

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43725826)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 9:02 AM
Author: Unholy sapphire church

Offer 870 and say you’ll throw in a blowjob.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43725827)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 9:04 AM
Author: topaz fantasy-prone market

From me or the wife? Or both?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43725832)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 9:24 AM
Author: hairraiser sexy university

You should offer a prostate stim

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43725891)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 10:13 AM
Author: autistic adventurous hall gunner

Offer $870K + $5K kicker but get rid of the financing contingency, but not the inspection one. If they reject, fuck them and move on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43726122)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 10:28 AM
Author: topaz fantasy-prone market

What if we’re unwilling to waive the financing contingency— what would you offer in that case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43726201)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 11:29 AM
Author: shimmering property mental disorder

You’re going to be uncompetitive against all cash offers that are 10-30k below whatever your offer is . The issue is probably the financing contingency not the inspection contingency

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43726571)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 11:31 AM
Author: topaz fantasy-prone market

yeah i agree. we did put 25% down and showed proof of funds in the form of 500k in a bank account, so that could give the seller some assurance that we can get financing. i guess we'll have to just slide and let do, and hope they want the highest offer over the cash offer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43726582)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 11:28 AM
Author: shimmering property mental disorder

This . Do not waive physical inspection period

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43726565)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 11:39 AM
Author: topaz fantasy-prone market

we'd never.

and we can't waive the financing contingency because we dont have cash to close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43726653)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 11:27 AM
Author: Transparent mentally impaired crotch

dont waive inspection but offer not to request repair/discount for items found at inspection unless the expected cost is over some material amount (e.g., 5K)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43726558)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 11:33 AM
Author: topaz fantasy-prone market

do u law? that would be a meaningless / unenforceable provision.

"buyer has a right to conduct inspection at his expense, but in no event shall seller compensate or repair for damage found that totals $5k or less"

*sends demand for $5,001 price reduction*

anyway, in a crazy seller's market, the seller isn't going to give a $2000 credit anyway -- he'll just say take it or leave it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43726601)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 11:40 AM
Author: Transparent mentally impaired crotch

dont be autistic, this isnt a question of enforceability but of negotiation and showing the seller you arent going to be a pain in the ass. they arent going to run this by cravath. these kinds of provisions are common in sellers markets and are meant to signal that you are serious about the offer you are making and arent going to try and put the screws to them over a few spots of chipped paint.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43726666)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 11:53 AM
Author: topaz fantasy-prone market

i see what you're saying but everyone knows that in this seller's market the seller is going to tell you to pound sand if you try to get a $1000 credit over some chipped paint or whatever, so i don't see what an unenforceable meaningless provision does when the seller isn't going to negotiate over chipped paint in the first place. also, i've never heard of such a provision and we've been making offers in 5 different markets for a year, and we bought a house last year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43726731)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 12:00 PM
Author: histrionic duck-like digit ratio twinkling uncleanness

Richard is right. We got our ski house using an offer like that and the seller’s agent mentioned it was what made our offer stand out since they didn’t want to be out replacing outlets and shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43726791)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 12:46 PM
Author: topaz fantasy-prone market

i guess i can see that making a difference as a gesture if the house is owned by some old couple who has lived there for many years, in the same way a personal note and photo can make a difference if you're a nice family.

in this situation, i dont think the sellers care

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43727055)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 1:45 PM
Author: Transparent mentally impaired crotch

its not just old couples that dont want to have to mediate petty squabbles with their buyer, very common practice

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43727415)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 1:49 PM
Author: topaz fantasy-prone market

but a sophisticated / professional seller would know the clause is meaningless and unenforceable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43727428)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 1:51 PM
Author: Transparent mentally impaired crotch

thats pretty much irrelevant, everyone knows this shit isnt going to litigation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43727440)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 2:00 PM
Author: histrionic duck-like digit ratio twinkling uncleanness

"Non-serious" offerors are a real thing. It seems weird to think about when you're a lawyer, but people will straight up make an offer and then not honor it on the back end -- sometimes mercifully quickly, other times dragging it out for weeks before either owning it and breaching or using some pretext to weasel out of the deal. ID'ing -- and yes paying extra for, as a seller -- "serious" buyers is a real thing. These assholes exist at all price points of house and of buyer, from FHA borrower to all-cash buyer.

A less-serious manifestation of the same disease is the person who overspent for their budget or otherwise feels a degree of buyer's remorse or entitlement but still wants to close. They start making annoying fucking demands about the penny ante shit that always comes up on inspections. We sold our Victorian era house (when a house is over 100 years old, it's obviously not going to get a "yep nothing to see here" inspection) to a neurosurgeon and his wife who dragged closing out for almost 3 months with bullshit. Would not take a lump-sum concession (at least not one that was comprehensive *or* that bore any relationship to the actual cost of repair). It was both costly (especially in time) and annoying as fuck -- stressful for the wife who thinks about all the offers that were lost, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43727487)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 2:17 PM
Author: topaz fantasy-prone market

tyft; always like ur anecdotes. how did your buyers manage to drag out closing for 3 months after presumably a 7 or 10 days inspection period ended?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43727552)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 11:35 AM
Author: Electric garrison boistinker

Escalation clauses over $1 are fucking stupid, you're throwing away $4,999 in excess to be the highest bidder. Tell them you'll beat the highest offer by $1 and no more.

Stipulate that the inspection is for due diligence only, seller agrees to return escrow and hold harmless if you think the problems are more than you want to deal with.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43726610)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 11:38 AM
Author: topaz fantasy-prone market

in a bidding war, sellers might not want to deal with escalation clauses and will often just sign the highest offer that comes in...without having to go back to the guy with the escalation clause and find out that he's full of shit and really didn't intend to pay 50k over based on the escalation clause.

so, if you're 5k or 10k below the highest bidder but have an escalation clause, your escalation clause needs to be attractive and $1k isn't enough on a million dollar house.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43726639)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 11:43 AM
Author: Filthy ruddy center

Make a lower bid than your initial. In my experience realtors like the other sides tend to self sabotage. You'll think the house is sold again and then it shows back up to market in 3 weeks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43726678)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 11:55 AM
Author: topaz fantasy-prone market

yeah, these realtors are idiots and obviously they picked the wrong offer due to self-sabotage. but it's a highly competitive market and people will still be interested at or above list, even if it goes back on the market 5 times because the agent is an idiot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43726748)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 11:55 AM
Author: insanely creepy grizzly marketing idea idiot

Lol at this moron bidding against himself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43726749)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 11:59 AM
Author: topaz fantasy-prone market

yeah there's one bidder in a highly competitive market.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43726778)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 3:29 PM
Author: zombie-like lascivious lodge

You're seriously stupid if you don't understand that you were the only bidder and got played.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43728007)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 3:41 PM
Author: topaz fantasy-prone market

yeah we were the only bidder in this highly competitive market, and the agent just took the property off the market for a week hoping we'd still be around so he can get an extra 5k out of us

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43728091)



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Date: January 6th, 2022 2:55 PM
Author: zombie-like lascivious lodge

FYI - they take the property off the market so when dumb buyers look at the house they don't see that it's been sitting on the market for a while without getting bought. This seller is working hard to create hype and to try to either get or fake a bidding war.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43740648)



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Date: January 6th, 2022 3:50 PM
Author: Black puppy boiling water

Agents don't do that in the hope of getting an extra $100.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43741093)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 3:28 PM
Author: zombie-like lascivious lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43728001)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 12:16 PM
Author: drab affirmative action

I think its retarded to pay over asking price. Would u buy a car above what they asking? And how do u expect to close in 21 days, banks never do it that fast. And if it doesnt pass appraisal u pay more cash. That's dumb.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43726872)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 12:23 PM
Author: topaz fantasy-prone market

(boomer who last bought a house in 1982)

lol 21 day closing with financing is standard now. and everyone pays above ask in this market - sellers set ask intentionally low to get a bidding war. and everyone waives appraisals in this market -- sellers dont care what some 90 iq appraiser thinks the house is worth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43726925)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 3:29 PM
Author: zombie-like lascivious lodge

Bullshit, and I'm starting to think you're flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43728011)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 12:24 PM
Author: Comical water buffalo prole

can 100% close that fast. ive closed on land faster than 21 days.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43726934)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 12:33 PM
Author: histrionic duck-like digit ratio twinkling uncleanness

Lol I think maybe the market's changed since you bought back in 2009, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43726981)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 1:44 PM
Author: Transparent mentally impaired crotch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43727411)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 1:50 PM
Author: topaz fantasy-prone market



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43727434)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 2:46 PM
Author: Flickering massive pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43727716)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 3:30 PM
Author: zombie-like lascivious lodge

This poster bought in the past year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43728012)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 6:54 PM
Author: drab affirmative action

Yeah I paid asking and appraisal passed. Because the bank kept delaying I almost had to work out of the hotel. The bank actually transferred $ 2 days late and the seller just gave me the keys so I wouldn't have to delay closing but the deposit was clearly nonrefundable despite the bank not closing on time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43729327)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 1:54 PM
Author: Ivory infuriating pit goyim

don't knwo what market ur in and that probably matters.

ur are likely being repped by a retarded agent and you prob need someone more competent since you don't seem savvy enough to tackle this on yourown

but where i'm from you won't get an accepted offer w/ a financing contingency. inspection contingency isn't going to fly either. maybe an appraisla contingency is about the most you can get away with but that's if the house is a shitshow and other bidders aren't biting

edit: the appraisal contingency can be used as a backdoor to get out of the deal if need be, just pass along "newly discovered" foundation damage to the loan officer and wait for the appraisal to flop

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43727457)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 6:58 PM
Author: drab affirmative action

Actually if the bank is taking too long to approve their loan and do their appraisal u may run out of room on deposit even if appraisal doesnt pass. If u put in contract that u close in 21 days(hon and the bank isnt ready by then u either back out before then or end up guessing how much cash u pay.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43729351)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 2:00 PM
Author: racy dun liquid oxygen mother

if u truly want the property, buy it, as is, no regrets--nobody truly understands what the property issues are until u actually live there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43727490)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 2:12 PM
Author: Ivory infuriating pit goyim

that's a bad idea. i know someone who closed on a deal a couple weeks ago. last week it rained hard around these parts. the roof fell through, house completed flooded. now they are looking to sue the seller, but they will likely be fucked and wull have to recover under their insurance plicy, which will be a legal battel on its own, won't make them whole, and they still have to live out of hotels for the foreseeable future



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43727532)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 3:30 PM
Author: zombie-like lascivious lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43728015)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 2:18 PM
Author: topaz fantasy-prone market

some obvious shit can be found out during an inspection. this seems not credited

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43727558)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 2:25 PM
Author: Unholy sapphire church

It turns out the entire roof was just paper

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43727594)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 3:31 PM
Author: zombie-like lascivious lodge

Or outright needs to be entirely replaced and has structural flaws.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43728023)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 3:37 PM
Author: Contagious travel guidebook step-uncle's house

How do escalation clauses work? If you say you'll pay $5k over highest offer, couldn't the seller just make up an "offer" of some ridiculously high price?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43728070)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 3:42 PM
Author: Transparent mentally impaired crotch

you have the right to demand to see the competing offer that activates your escalation clause. i guess they could theoretically create a fraudulent offer sheet but the risk seems hardly worth it to the agent handling imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43728098)



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Date: January 4th, 2022 3:43 PM
Author: topaz fantasy-prone market

usually: 1) your offer is time limited, 2) you require seller to show proof of a bona fide competing offer

of course, seller could make up a bullshit offer. if he does and you're suspicious, u can just call shenanigans and walk away and terminate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43728102)



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Date: January 6th, 2022 12:03 PM
Author: topaz fantasy-prone market

update: went up to list + 5k escalation, didnt waive financing or inspection

yesterday morning the house went under contract. seller agent said it's a cash buyer who waived inspection and already put in his escrow. who knows if that's true and the original buyer isn't the one who is under contract

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43739541)



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Date: January 6th, 2022 4:02 PM
Author: racy dun liquid oxygen mother

sorry for ur loss--it hurts to lose a house that gets u

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43741165)



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Date: January 6th, 2022 4:23 PM
Author: topaz fantasy-prone market

it really sucks knowing that these houses are going to some scum ACCBs / "investors" / fraudscammers etc. it's one thing to lose out to another normal family and we'll find our house soon. it's another thing knowing the deck is stacked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43741283)



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Date: January 6th, 2022 4:34 PM
Author: racy dun liquid oxygen mother

I lost a bidding war for house in Raleigh that had the most perfect natural acoustics in a living room with cathedral ceilings. I'm haunted by the sounds I wanted to hear for the rest of my days and nights. Instead, I choose to live in silence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43741351)



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Date: January 6th, 2022 2:54 PM
Author: drab affirmative action

Mortgage rates are going up now. Only an idiot would be doing bidding wars now considering the housing market will plunge. And I did buy a condo in the summer that is up 5% right now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43740638)



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Date: January 6th, 2022 3:08 PM
Author: topaz fantasy-prone market

link to housing market plunging in desirable areas ?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43740721)



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Date: January 6th, 2022 3:12 PM
Author: zombie-like lascivious lodge

Yeah, Zillow just printed the opposite. We're also seeing massive inflation everywhere so while generally an increase in rates would be really meaningful, mortgage rates below inflation isn't a deterrent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43740740)



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Date: January 6th, 2022 3:25 PM
Author: topaz fantasy-prone market

i dont trust zillow, but i dont see why the housing market or the stock market is going to crash as long as the fraud economy keeps going

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43740871)



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Date: January 6th, 2022 3:27 PM
Author: zombie-like lascivious lodge

Well, I would add "as long as money is being heavily printed"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43740893)



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Date: January 6th, 2022 3:29 PM
Author: topaz fantasy-prone market



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43740910)



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Date: January 6th, 2022 3:31 PM
Author: misanthropic boyish turdskin

Inflation is the key here. Lock in the low rate/price and pay back the mortgage in inflated dollars.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5000184&forum_id=2#43740923)