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Best video games of the last 5 years?

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rough-skinned goal in life
  01/09/22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N_0Z66Mqf4
soggy curious weed whacker background story
  01/09/22
Battlebrothers
arousing mewling abode persian
  01/09/22
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Frozen Self-absorbed Address Rigpig
  01/09/22
BOTW FF7R Demon’s Souls
Buff casino
  01/09/22
ff7r looks so bad. i religiously followed it's development s...
cordovan idiot
  01/09/22
The gameplay is good imo. Good balance between being turn-ba...
Buff casino
  01/09/22
really dumb to whine and nitpick over a masterpiece. you ppl...
diverse slimy sandwich rehab
  01/09/22
it basically has the same "overrated" backlash as ...
Buff casino
  01/09/22
considering my criticism has been made by many and it's trig...
cordovan idiot
  01/09/22
lol. just dont play it man. no one cares
diverse slimy sandwich rehab
  01/09/22
why come into a thread about vidya game opinions and get maf...
cordovan idiot
  01/09/22
brother i think you are projecting. the only maf one here is...
diverse slimy sandwich rehab
  01/09/22
nah. i concisely and dispassionately explained why i didn't ...
cordovan idiot
  01/09/22
where did i get butthurt?
diverse slimy sandwich rehab
  01/09/22
i love you brother we don't need to continue this
cordovan idiot
  01/09/22
no, please continue
diverse slimy sandwich rehab
  01/09/22
[10,000 word screed on why ff7r is the most devastating betr...
cordovan idiot
  01/09/22
imagine being this maf about a vidya game
cordovan idiot
  01/09/22
imagine thinking that was a maf response
diverse slimy sandwich rehab
  01/09/22
(maf guy)
cordovan idiot
  01/09/22
The original FF7 was a watershed moment in my childhood and ...
bespoke aphrodisiac sanctuary halford
  01/09/22
that's fair enough. different strokes for different folks. ...
cordovan idiot
  01/09/22
holy shit imagine being this yosemite sam fuming faggot mad ...
soggy curious weed whacker background story
  01/09/22
(mad guy trying to increase his "sexual market value&qu...
Galvanic Senate Headpube
  01/09/22
“and then Link gets the master sword” you mumble...
soggy curious weed whacker background story
  01/09/22
no one thinks you're some alpha chad thundercock. anyone tha...
cordovan idiot
  01/09/22
you’re a shitty poaster and I didn’t vote for yo...
Crimson Startling Station Half-breed
  01/09/22
i don't think about you at all.
cordovan idiot
  01/09/22
(wild pack of teenagers casually walks by screaming "WO...
Galvanic Senate Headpube
  01/09/22
kingdom come: deliverance
titillating naked whorehouse generalized bond
  01/09/22
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filthy bright milk
  01/09/22
Diablo 2
deep motley locale
  01/09/22
What's so good about it
Vivacious carmine wrinkle legal warrant
  01/09/22
Was originally made in 2000 when games were still good. ...
lemon adventurous church building sweet tailpipe
  01/09/22
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filthy bright milk
  01/09/22
Zelda BOTW
lemon adventurous church building sweet tailpipe
  01/09/22
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Elite stead
  01/09/22
they are so scared to make a sequel and have it be mediocre ...
Buff casino
  01/09/22
Easily this
Passionate hyperventilating shrine philosopher-king
  01/09/22
i got to the last of the 4 divine beasts and sort of lost in...
cordovan idiot
  01/09/22
It is the only game I routinely still think about and think ...
lemon adventurous church building sweet tailpipe
  01/09/22
i got many, many hours of excitement and awe out of it. prob...
cordovan idiot
  01/09/22
your point about things getting easier in a lot of games is ...
Buff casino
  01/09/22
yeah. i'm not going to sit here and pretend like i have ...
cordovan idiot
  01/09/22
I was mainly criticizing you for not realizing that the comb...
Buff casino
  01/09/22
all of the puzzles lead you to a handful of boss fights. i u...
cordovan idiot
  01/09/22
I don't know if they ever have been. LTTP is really easy, fo...
Buff casino
  01/09/22
Zelda games were generally about those “aha” mom...
lemon adventurous church building sweet tailpipe
  01/09/22
that's what Im saying
Buff casino
  01/09/22
but the first few hours of botw were legitimately challengin...
cordovan idiot
  01/09/22
They’re all like that in a way. I think what you&rsquo...
Buff casino
  01/09/22
RE2 remake?
gold site clown
  01/09/22
no one here actually plays games
diverse slimy sandwich rehab
  01/09/22
every console has like 2 good games imo. and PC games requir...
Buff casino
  01/09/22
rimworld ck3 divinity II FE: three houses
Galvanic Senate Headpube
  01/09/22
Cod warzone Mega man 11 Bloodstained Metroid samus retur...
Chrome razzmatazz windowlicker nursing home
  01/09/22
Flight simulator is also pretty fucking revolutionary with t...
Passionate hyperventilating shrine philosopher-king
  01/09/22
https://store.steampowered.com/app/654880/Dream_Daddy_A_Dad_...
Fishy slippery fat ankles
  01/09/22
Ty downloading now
soul-stirring idiotic potus
  01/09/22
Horizon Zero Dawn was pretty good
Black Racy Principal's Office
  01/09/22
I quit Just another boring over the shoulder open world...
Passionate hyperventilating shrine philosopher-king
  01/09/22
Red Dead 2 Kingdom Come: Deliverance
Sick boiling water school
  01/09/22
Cyberpunk 2077 Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice Hades Inscryptio...
flatulent immigrant partner
  01/09/22
I love the pathfinder games but holy shit they are too godda...
Galvanic Senate Headpube
  01/09/22
PWotR is an absurd game in many ways. Far from perfect but i...
flatulent immigrant partner
  01/09/22
I was in between jobs with nothing to fucking do for a month...
Galvanic Senate Headpube
  01/09/22
Inscryption is really overrated. Without spoiling too much, ...
bespoke aphrodisiac sanctuary halford
  01/09/22
hades was one of my favorite games of the past few years. ...
cordovan idiot
  01/09/22
I’m still waiting for the cp2077 next gen “upgra...
Passionate hyperventilating shrine philosopher-king
  01/09/22
it seems like cdpr is serious about no man's skying it. i ch...
cordovan idiot
  01/09/22
Cyberpunk's narrative and performances are as good or better...
flatulent immigrant partner
  01/09/22
agreed. however i don't think insisting on compatibility ...
cordovan idiot
  01/09/22
Doesn't explain everything but explains many things. The tea...
flatulent immigrant partner
  01/09/22
I really loved CP77's story and presentation but the level s...
offensive garrison
  01/09/22
yup. cb2077 is probably the biggest example of "hard...
cordovan idiot
  01/09/22
Slay the Spire Dead Cells Into the Breach Zelda BotW Pr...
Sickened obsidian becky
  01/09/22
realized every other game from the past five years I really ...
Sickened obsidian becky
  01/09/22
great list. although i've never played prey. it's crazy t...
cordovan idiot
  01/09/22
if you like immersive sims, Prey is definitely worth checkin...
Sickened obsidian becky
  01/09/22
Haven't played many new games but the Mass Effect remaster i...
offensive garrison
  01/09/22
Just downloaded that on gamepass to play ME3 and possibly re...
Passionate hyperventilating shrine philosopher-king
  01/09/22
ME1 is significantly better in the remaster. 2 and 3 weren't...
offensive garrison
  01/09/22
ME1 lost me with the Mako sequences interminable, clunky,...
Sickened obsidian becky
  01/09/22
The Mako has a boost now and worms have more varied attacks ...
offensive garrison
  01/09/22
NieR : Automata /thread
soul-stirring idiotic potus
  01/09/22
StarCraft Remastered
Provocative gas station
  01/09/22
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filthy bright milk
  01/09/22
i heard Days Gone and Ghosts of Tsushima are by far the best...
lascivious blue native
  01/09/22
Days gone was 180
Stirring forum codepig
  01/09/22
I was surprised no one posted Days Gone above
Hilarious grizzly reading party
  01/09/22
Days Gone was a surprisingly competent "one of those.&q...
flatulent immigrant partner
  01/09/22
Ghost of Tsushima was excellent Older than 5 years and ev...
Out-of-control base
  01/09/22
Both those games fucking suck
filthy bright milk
  01/09/22
Would AAA open world games be better if developers completel...
trip orange stage
  01/09/22
Why do markers matter?
excitant mustard meetinghouse
  01/09/22
botw seemed to strike a perfect balance between quest marker...
cordovan idiot
  01/09/22
Skyrim has this problem and is still being played constantly...
Sickened obsidian becky
  01/09/22
I’ve still never played it, is it worth it still today...
gaped maize hell
  01/09/22
absolutely. have you played any other bethesda games? if you...
cordovan idiot
  01/09/22
Yeah I like Fallout.
gaped maize hell
  01/09/22
yeah. you can cheese the game with stealth or illusion magic...
Sickened obsidian becky
  01/09/22
more like most AAA developers have just forgotten how to dev...
Galvanic Senate Headpube
  01/09/22
Hades is fun
filthy bright milk
  01/09/22
Agreed. Same team that made Bastion, also fun.
Abnormal den boistinker
  01/10/22
Bastion is 180 I get that Hades is objectively a better g...
histrionic burgundy institution double fault
  01/10/22
Couldn't get past the voice-over in that
filthy bright milk
  01/10/22
Why?
Abnormal den boistinker
  01/10/22
hades fucking rocked. those are my favorite types of game...
cordovan idiot
  01/10/22
Doom Eternal? It is pretty light on gfx cards relative to mo...
Galvanic Senate Headpube
  01/10/22
maybe i should pick that up. i haven't been into single play...
cordovan idiot
  01/10/22
Isn't that what returnal is supposed to be
filthy bright milk
  01/10/22
is it? i only have pc and switch.
cordovan idiot
  01/10/22
What graphics card do you have on your PC?
Abnormal den boistinker
  01/10/22
Returnal is a roguelike but the sessions are not quick. It's...
bespoke aphrodisiac sanctuary halford
  01/11/22
Disco Elysium Farcry 6 Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart F...
Hilarious grizzly reading party
  01/15/22


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Date: January 9th, 2022 8:22 AM
Author: rough-skinned goal in life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43753595)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 8:23 AM
Author: soggy curious weed whacker background story

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N_0Z66Mqf4

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43753596)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 8:27 AM
Author: arousing mewling abode persian

Battlebrothers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43753600)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 1:34 PM
Author: Frozen Self-absorbed Address Rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754584)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 8:28 AM
Author: Buff casino

BOTW

FF7R

Demon’s Souls



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43753602)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 9:12 AM
Author: cordovan idiot

ff7r looks so bad. i religiously followed it's development since announcement. now that it's out for pc i'm tempted to get it. but i watched the first couple hours or so of gameplay and it just looks atrocious.

they fucking kingdom hearts'd the plot. the gameplay looks like the game just plays itself. what's the point?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43753658)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 9:16 AM
Author: Buff casino

The gameplay is good imo. Good balance between being turn-based and “action.” I went in with low expectations and only bought bc it was on sale. The soundtrack is also epic. And the “kingdom hearts” weirdness keeps you guessing at least, even if it ultimately will turn out to be nonsense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43753667)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 11:41 AM
Author: diverse slimy sandwich rehab

really dumb to whine and nitpick over a masterpiece. you ppl have shit taste

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754077)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 11:55 AM
Author: Buff casino

it basically has the same "overrated" backlash as the original FF7 without the same level of success. you have people saying that the most mediocre indie/low-budget JRPGs are superior.

and it doesn't play itself, it has, imo, the clever mechanic that requires you to switch characters since enemies aggro your player-character (a facsimile of turn-based, as it were)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754149)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 12:11 PM
Author: cordovan idiot

considering my criticism has been made by many and it's triggering so many people, there has to be some truth to it. if it was completely off base and wrong you wouldn't care.

people can have different opinions about things. especially something as childish as vidya. ff7r veered too far from the original for me to like it. this is coming from a guy that played each ff6-10 at least 3 times. i was obsessed with ff7 remake kept track of news about it for years.

i might have been able to tolerate the action rpg combat. it's not like i expected them to keep the game completely intact. but the bullshit story changes and "whispers" combined with the new combat made it a non started for me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754234)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 12:13 PM
Author: diverse slimy sandwich rehab

lol. just dont play it man. no one cares

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754244)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 12:15 PM
Author: cordovan idiot

why come into a thread about vidya game opinions and get maf over opinions that conflict with yours? i'm not going to play it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754260)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 12:17 PM
Author: diverse slimy sandwich rehab

brother i think you are projecting. the only maf one here is you. you got butthurt i insulted your taste. that is why youre screeding about a game you havent even played. like youre trying to prove your bona fides with the 90s games you played. its amusing tbh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754267)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 12:26 PM
Author: cordovan idiot

nah. i concisely and dispassionately explained why i didn't like it and you got butthurt.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754310)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 12:27 PM
Author: diverse slimy sandwich rehab

where did i get butthurt?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754313)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 12:29 PM
Author: cordovan idiot

i love you brother we don't need to continue this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754321)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 12:29 PM
Author: diverse slimy sandwich rehab

no, please continue

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754322)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 12:33 PM
Author: cordovan idiot

[10,000 word screed on why ff7r is the most devastating betrayal in video game history]

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754336)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 12:08 PM
Author: cordovan idiot

imagine being this maf about a vidya game



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754207)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 12:08 PM
Author: diverse slimy sandwich rehab

imagine thinking that was a maf response

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754211)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 12:12 PM
Author: cordovan idiot

(maf guy)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754237)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 12:22 PM
Author: bespoke aphrodisiac sanctuary halford

The original FF7 was a watershed moment in my childhood and I hate most modern jrpgs and AAA games, but I loved FF7 remake.

Would I have been happier with a direct remake that followed the plot of the original, turn based battles, and all three discs in one go? Sure, definitely. But you have to take the game for what it is, and it's fantastic. The pure button mash spam of FFXV is gone, giving way to what I think is the best action-based battle system of any jrpg that has tried it. The different characters are all cool and fun to play as and feel very different. The environments and nostalgic moments from the original game were created in painstaking detail. Yes, it's more like going through a theme park ride of FF7 than playing the original FF7, but it's a perfectly executed theme park ride. I'm definitely in the demographic that would be highly inclined to bash what they did, but I can't fault it at all, other than the plot/ending (and even that I can at least get a little bit . . . they were trying to provide that "epic," over the top jrpg narrative and ending).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754291)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 12:28 PM
Author: cordovan idiot

that's fair enough. different strokes for different folks.

i watched several hours of gameplay and story and it just wasn't for me. and the story changes really pissed me off. call me a maf 90smo or whatever. they just changed too much and added too much modern jrpg nonsense for me to be able to tolerate it. especially since it was one of my most beloved childhood games.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754320)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 12:35 PM
Author: soggy curious weed whacker background story

holy shit imagine being this yosemite sam fuming faggot mad about a god damn children's toy

get some pussy dude fuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754355)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 12:57 PM
Author: Galvanic Senate Headpube

(mad guy trying to increase his "sexual market value")

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754443)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 1:38 PM
Author: soggy curious weed whacker background story

“and then Link gets the master sword” you mumble, avoiding eye contact as she sighs and checks her phone messages

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754609)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 2:25 PM
Author: cordovan idiot

no one thinks you're some alpha chad thundercock. anyone that, completely unprompted, says "get some pussy dude fuck" on an anonymous message bort is undoubtedly an incel dweeb.

hth!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754797)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 2:29 PM
Author: Crimson Startling Station Half-breed

you’re a shitty poaster and I didn’t vote for you once in MPM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754819)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 2:34 PM
Author: cordovan idiot

i don't think about you at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754843)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 2:50 PM
Author: Galvanic Senate Headpube

(wild pack of teenagers casually walks by screaming "WORLDSTAR")

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754910)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 9:10 AM
Author: titillating naked whorehouse generalized bond

kingdom come: deliverance

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43753650)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 12:38 PM
Author: filthy bright milk



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754375)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 9:18 AM
Author: deep motley locale

Diablo 2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43753671)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 10:55 AM
Author: Vivacious carmine wrinkle legal warrant

What's so good about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43753953)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 12:34 PM
Author: lemon adventurous church building sweet tailpipe

Was originally made in 2000 when games were still good.

Basically like a crack slot machine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754346)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 6:36 PM
Author: filthy bright milk



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43755937)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 10:06 AM
Author: lemon adventurous church building sweet tailpipe

Zelda BOTW

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43753806)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 11:38 AM
Author: Elite stead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754061)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 11:41 AM
Author: Buff casino

they are so scared to make a sequel and have it be mediocre like WW/TP/SS haha. they have no idea what makes their games good probably, they just get lucky on occasion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754072)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 11:41 AM
Author: Passionate hyperventilating shrine philosopher-king

Easily this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754080)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 12:14 PM
Author: cordovan idiot

i got to the last of the 4 divine beasts and sort of lost interest.

the game is definitely a masterpiece, but these open worlders always just get too easy at the end. it seems like every massive game like botw starts out difficult and becomes progressively more easy. shouldn't it be the opposite? i was dying all the time at the beginning. by the end i was unstoppable.

i only got it a couple months ago. i might pick it up again and beat it just to do it. but at this point it just feels like a chore. there's no challenge.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754253)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 12:31 PM
Author: lemon adventurous church building sweet tailpipe

It is the only game I routinely still think about and think to myself "Jesus Christ that was fucking awesome"

Like going to the top of Mt. Hyrule and seeing that big ice dragon for the first time or floating around seeing giant skeletons in the snow. Just a sense of awe inspiring wonder for most of the game. I wish I could experience it for the first time again

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754326)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 12:36 PM
Author: cordovan idiot

i got many, many hours of excitement and awe out of it. probably the most awe inspiring game i've played in years. i just recently got the switch and it was pretty much for that game. and i don't regret it.

i just wish they found a way to keep it challenging. i get that the fun of it for most people is exploration. and it's amazing how they found a way to pack content in everywhere. it's truly amazing to just walk around.

but after you master combat and get strong enough, it just felt like i'm checking things off a list.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754360)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 12:59 PM
Author: Buff casino

your point about things getting easier in a lot of games is well-taken. The people developing a lot of games have seemingly no regard for the fact that a player gets better at the game as he progresses. There are certain games that really nail the difficulty curve - DKC2, a lot of the better mega man games, mario 3 - and these stand out. Note that none of these are RPGs or Zelda-esque games. They have to allow for the fact that some players will want to rush through without collecting very much imo. You can go right to Ganon the second you get off the starting area iirc.

With that said, combat in BOTW and a lot of Zelda games in general is pretty trivial. The challenge comes from the puzzles and exploration/crafting and such provide a fun factor as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754450)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 1:29 PM
Author: cordovan idiot

yeah.

i'm not going to sit here and pretend like i have any solution to it, either. people want open world games. i got botw knowing exactly what it was. but it seems very hard to program an increasing or even consistent difficulty into these types of games. when you have the option to go anywhere you want as soon as you start the game really doesn't have a lot of solutions for increasing difficulty. beyond stuff like scaling enemies. which really doesn't do anything, because they all have the same move sets. giving them bigger numbers doesn't do much.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754560)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 2:59 PM
Author: Buff casino

I was mainly criticizing you for not realizing that the combat isn't really challenging at all unless you rush through it. you spend like 2% of your time fighting challenging enemies. Mainly those lions which are basically optional. the puzzles are the "challenge" afaik

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754947)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 3:04 PM
Author: cordovan idiot

all of the puzzles lead you to a handful of boss fights. i understand that puzzles and exploration are the main hook of the game. but the bosses should be challenging too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754971)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 3:50 PM
Author: Buff casino

I don't know if they ever have been. LTTP is really easy, for one. The last time I played it I just did green tunic and it was nbd. No one gets "stuck" on Zelda bosses afaik

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43755199)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 3:52 PM
Author: lemon adventurous church building sweet tailpipe

Zelda games were generally about those “aha” moments where you had to really think and piece things together to figure out how to advance or get to that piece

of heart, etc. They were never “hard” games

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43755209)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 3:56 PM
Author: Buff casino

that's what Im saying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43755225)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 4:50 PM
Author: cordovan idiot

but the first few hours of botw were legitimately challenging, and that's when the puzzles were easiest. combat is a gigantic part of the game. i don't think it's fair to hand wave away the fact that the difficulty declines to the point of becoming trivial at the end with "well, the game is mostly about puzzles and exploration". sure, i'll concede that and i'm not saying the game should have been a souls clone. at the same time, i don't think it's unreasonable or "missing the point of the games" to say that ideally the combat should become *more* challenging (or at least stay roughly the same) as the game progresses.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43755503)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 6:34 PM
Author: Buff casino

They’re all like that in a way. I think what you’re missing is that the combat isn’t really hard when it’s hard so it’s nbd. And iirc the Lynels are harder than anything. Or are you talking about the Guardians? Yeah those are really intimidating at the beginning iirc. Haven’t played it since 2017

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43755920)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 11:41 AM
Author: gold site clown

RE2 remake?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754081)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 11:42 AM
Author: diverse slimy sandwich rehab

no one here actually plays games

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754086)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 11:45 AM
Author: Buff casino

every console has like 2 good games imo. and PC games require too much effort/IQ.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754097)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 11:48 AM
Author: Galvanic Senate Headpube

rimworld

ck3

divinity II

FE: three houses

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754106)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 11:50 AM
Author: Chrome razzmatazz windowlicker nursing home

Cod warzone

Mega man 11

Bloodstained

Metroid samus returns

Forza horizon 5

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754116)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 12:08 PM
Author: Passionate hyperventilating shrine philosopher-king

Flight simulator is also pretty fucking revolutionary with the geo mapping

You can basically fly over your parents house

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754208)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 12:32 PM
Author: Fishy slippery fat ankles

https://store.steampowered.com/app/654880/Dream_Daddy_A_Dad_Dating_Simulator/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754333)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 2:23 PM
Author: soul-stirring idiotic potus

Ty downloading now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754791)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 12:34 PM
Author: Black Racy Principal's Office

Horizon Zero Dawn was pretty good

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754343)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 12:44 PM
Author: Passionate hyperventilating shrine philosopher-king

I quit

Just another boring over the shoulder open world game with a HUD showing your next mission

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754394)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 12:44 PM
Author: Sick boiling water school

Red Dead 2

Kingdom Come: Deliverance



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754396)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 12:54 PM
Author: flatulent immigrant partner

Cyberpunk 2077

Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice

Hades

Inscryption

Control

Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754434)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 1:08 PM
Author: Galvanic Senate Headpube

I love the pathfinder games but holy shit they are too goddamn long.

everyone should play hades IMO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754489)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 1:28 PM
Author: flatulent immigrant partner

PWotR is an absurd game in many ways. Far from perfect but it is an absolute treat that a cRPG like it exists and offers somebody who wants it a full-bore tabletop adventure with more depth than any normal human could ever be expected to master. I didn't come anywhere near completing it but would have loved having a game like it around when I was 16 to just get lost in for an entire summer.

Hades is probably the pinnacle of the classic roguelike genre.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754557)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 1:33 PM
Author: Galvanic Senate Headpube

I was in between jobs with nothing to fucking do for a month and got about 30-40% through WOTR before I just lost focus. It's an amazing game but maybe the only one I've run into so far where I really felt the effects of being too damn old.

Hades does maybe the best job I've seen of a new-ish game being appealing to a genre with a hardcore fanbase (which roguelikes definitely have) and Joe McMassmarket. One of the few modern games that I legitimately can't think of a type of person who wouldn't enjoy it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754583)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 1:19 PM
Author: bespoke aphrodisiac sanctuary halford

Inscryption is really overrated. Without spoiling too much, I don't like how they had the basics of a decent deckbuilder, then abandoned it for other gameplay styles that were NOT decent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754536)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 1:25 PM
Author: cordovan idiot

hades was one of my favorite games of the past few years.

cb2077 was better than people gave it credit for. still pretty fucking buggy. suffers from the typical "game gets ridiculously easy later on" that most open worlders suffer from. especially if you're autistic about min/maxing. my netrunner build just one shotted entire bases without an enemy ever seeing me.

i got control for free from epic but haven't played it yet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754549)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 1:31 PM
Author: Passionate hyperventilating shrine philosopher-king

I’m still waiting for the cp2077 next gen “upgrade” to drop

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754570)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 1:34 PM
Author: cordovan idiot

it seems like cdpr is serious about no man's skying it. i check in to the subreddit from time to time to check whether the game is "good" yet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754585)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 1:37 PM
Author: flatulent immigrant partner

Cyberpunk's narrative and performances are as good or better than anything videogames have ever seen. There have only been a handful of games in the history of gaming that are comparable (Witcher 3 and RDR 2 among them). It illustrates the best of what gaming has to offer as a storytelling medium.

It's a shame what happened to the game but CDPR deserves the criticism; it made a fundamentally stupid decision to release the game on Xbox One/PS4 for financial reasons, and stuck to that plan even when it required the team to hamstring features/systems and work 10x harder to develop things for an end result that was objectively terrible. At the same time CDPR spent years leaning hard into the hype train and let its fanbase believe Cyberpunk was some kind of Ur game that would be infinitely deep, customizable, and replayable with every feature seen in every open world game in the last decade dialed to 11. That in turn created a feedback loop where the team would constantly feature creep new systems only to run into the Xbox/PS4 problem, get bogged down, and have to cut the system way back so it would function.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754594)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 2:28 PM
Author: cordovan idiot

agreed.

however i don't think insisting on compatibility on aged systems explains everything. a lot of features were missing that have been common since ps2. the lack of driving ai was one of the biggest ones, and completely inexcusable in an open world game featuring a lot of driving.

maybe it's because they had to work 10x harder making the game work on older shit that they didn't have time for these features. idk.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754816)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 3:39 PM
Author: flatulent immigrant partner

Doesn't explain everything but explains many things. The team has talked about spending tons of time optimizing the data streaming to keep the city running on Xbox/PS4 which had slow hard drives and tiny pink RAM caches. Beyond a modest efficiency point that's all wasted dev time.

So they decide to add cops as a feature ala GTA's crime system. But the Xbox/PS4 don't have the capability to create and track a bunch of roaming police NPCs that simply exist off screen. So what do they do? When you get a 'wanted' level the game just spawns a cop. And the Xbox/PS4 can't hold any sizeable chunk of the game in memory so the cop spawns basically on top of the player and engages. Hence stupid shit like cops spawning on rooftops of buildings. I don't know for sure that this was the root cause but given the dev chops at CDPR I have to imagine bullshit like this played a big role.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43755154)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 1:43 PM
Author: offensive garrison

I really loved CP77's story and presentation but the level scaling is totally fucked. It makes sense that you want to max level and gear your character before the final mission because there's nothing to do after that, but being max level completely trivializes the important last few fights

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754625)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 2:33 PM
Author: cordovan idiot

yup.

cb2077 is probably the biggest example of "hard at first, trivially easy later" problem that almost all open worlders have. at the highest difficulty level i was dying constantly to stray bullets during the first few hours. later on nothing could stop me.

i killed adam smasher just by looking at him and pressing a single button. i'd find that i accidentally killed bosses and minibosses because my hacks spread to them. i also remember having one of the smart guns and one of my hacks would trigger automatically on crits. so any automatic smart gun with a high rate of fire would trigger a hack dozens of times and i wouldn't even have to aim anywhere near them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754841)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 1:32 PM
Author: Sickened obsidian becky

Slay the Spire

Dead Cells

Into the Breach

Zelda BotW

Prey

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754576)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 1:41 PM
Author: Sickened obsidian becky

realized every other game from the past five years I really liked was an indie title, and with only two AAA titles in my top five, that's a pretty bad hit rate

I played other AAA games from the past five years, but none really grabbed me. still haven't played Sekiro, Nier, or Cyberpunk 2077.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754615)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 3:29 PM
Author: cordovan idiot

great list. although i've never played prey.

it's crazy that there are no cutting edge AAA games that are worth shit from the past few years, save (arguably) for cb2077. botw and all of the nintendo switch shit is designed to run an underpowered console/portable player. and they tend to be the best regarded AAA games.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43755103)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 3:53 PM
Author: Sickened obsidian becky

if you like immersive sims, Prey is definitely worth checking out, and the GLOO gun is one of the most fun weapons/tools to ever be put in a shooter. it's more fun than the gravity gun from HL2. that's my pitch.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43755211)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 1:50 PM
Author: offensive garrison

Haven't played many new games but the Mass Effect remaster is a must-buy imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754642)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 1:51 PM
Author: Passionate hyperventilating shrine philosopher-king

Just downloaded that on gamepass to play ME3 and possibly replay ME1 (my favorite)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754648)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 1:52 PM
Author: offensive garrison

ME1 is significantly better in the remaster. 2 and 3 weren't really changed I think

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754652)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 1:54 PM
Author: Sickened obsidian becky

ME1 lost me with the Mako sequences

interminable, clunky, fighting in it felt awful and the worms were bullet sponges that only were available to shoot periodically, absolutely terrible design, what were they thinking

does the remaster fix that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754657)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 1:55 PM
Author: offensive garrison

The Mako has a boost now and worms have more varied attacks (they lead their shots really well and they have a phase where they go underground and you have to shoot a bunch of their tentacles). The worm fights are definitely harder/more interactive but it's still the same fight every time

There's also no more penalty for killing stuff in the Mako, you get the full exp every time

Exploring with the Mako is still a slog but it goes by a little faster now with the boost

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754664)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 2:30 PM
Author: soul-stirring idiotic potus

NieR : Automata

/thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754823)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 2:30 PM
Author: Provocative gas station

StarCraft Remastered

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754828)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 6:33 PM
Author: filthy bright milk



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43755911)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 3:02 PM
Author: lascivious blue native

i heard Days Gone and Ghosts of Tsushima are by far the best two

new GTA was ok

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43754960)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 3:22 PM
Author: Stirring forum codepig

Days gone was 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43755067)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 3:41 PM
Author: Hilarious grizzly reading party

I was surprised no one posted Days Gone above

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43755171)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 3:47 PM
Author: flatulent immigrant partner

Days Gone was a surprisingly competent "one of those." Recently played through it on PC. The only innovative thing it does are the hordes. The rest of the game feels very been-there-done-that but is polished enough and in a relatively underused setting (Walking Dead meets Sons of Anarchy) to be fun.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43755186)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 6:30 PM
Author: Out-of-control base

Ghost of Tsushima was excellent

Older than 5 years and everyone spams it in these lists but Witcher 3 is amazing on a high end PC with wide screen monitor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43755899)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 6:33 PM
Author: filthy bright milk

Both those games fucking suck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43755915)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 3:13 PM
Author: trip orange stage

Would AAA open world games be better if developers completely disabled objective markers? Seems like everyone complains about these games being boring because of them, and why BOTW stands out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43755024)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 3:17 PM
Author: excitant mustard meetinghouse

Why do markers matter?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43755043)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 3:31 PM
Author: cordovan idiot

botw seemed to strike a perfect balance between quest markers telling you where you needed to go versus them appearing over literally every part of the quest chain.

when a quest market appears over every npc you need to talk to, the game just plays itself. you don't even have to read shit. go to the next quest marker. spam through the convo. go to the next. rinse and repeat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43755115)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 4:13 PM
Author: Sickened obsidian becky

Skyrim has this problem and is still being played constantly ten years later

but people are playing it in spite of this, imo, it's become a touchstone because it's very evocative

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43755315)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 4:52 PM
Author: gaped maize hell

I’ve still never played it, is it worth it still today? It’s on Gamepass, fully loaded version.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43755511)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 4:54 PM
Author: cordovan idiot

absolutely. have you played any other bethesda games? if you like fallout 3 or 4 or any of the other elder scrolls it is a must play.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43755522)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 4:55 PM
Author: gaped maize hell

Yeah I like Fallout.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43755529)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 6:32 PM
Author: Sickened obsidian becky

yeah. you can cheese the game with stealth or illusion magic but you should go full 2h/light armor Nord warrior and really play into the fantasy and atmosphere of the game on your first play through.

it's cool to hate on Skyrim now but there's a reason it's still played and people loved it when it came out and it still holds up. very good combination of atmosphere/art design/score.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43755904)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 10:42 PM
Author: Galvanic Senate Headpube

more like most AAA developers have just forgotten how to develop anything that isn't an open world game crammed full of tons of generic crap. an open world is fine if you have a coherent idea of how the game fits around it, but too many games now are just open world because they're following the farcry model of content generation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43757165)



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Date: January 9th, 2022 6:34 PM
Author: filthy bright milk

Hades is fun

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43755919)



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Date: January 10th, 2022 9:35 AM
Author: Abnormal den boistinker

Agreed. Same team that made Bastion, also fun.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43758393)



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Date: January 10th, 2022 10:00 AM
Author: histrionic burgundy institution double fault

Bastion is 180

I get that Hades is objectively a better game, but Bastion is still my preferred game from that studio. They've also made other good ones.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43758476)



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Date: January 10th, 2022 10:57 AM
Author: filthy bright milk

Couldn't get past the voice-over in that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43758717)



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Date: January 10th, 2022 11:18 AM
Author: Abnormal den boistinker

Why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43758809)



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Date: January 10th, 2022 9:54 AM
Author: cordovan idiot

hades fucking rocked.

those are my favorite types of games. challenging. quick sessions. easy to learn, hard to master.

i wish someone made a game like that that would gave my graphics card a workout. i love games like darkest dungeon, hades, spire, etc. but they're all indie low graphics types.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43758455)



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Date: January 10th, 2022 10:28 AM
Author: Galvanic Senate Headpube

Doom Eternal? It is pretty light on gfx cards relative to most AAA games but the the good optimization is also part of what makes a game like that work (ie choppy doom would be fucking awful).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43758591)



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Date: January 10th, 2022 11:02 AM
Author: cordovan idiot

maybe i should pick that up. i haven't been into single player FPSes i na while, but i keep hearing great things about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43758745)



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Date: January 10th, 2022 10:56 AM
Author: filthy bright milk

Isn't that what returnal is supposed to be

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43758713)



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Date: January 10th, 2022 11:01 AM
Author: cordovan idiot

is it? i only have pc and switch.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43758742)



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Date: January 10th, 2022 11:19 AM
Author: Abnormal den boistinker

What graphics card do you have on your PC?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5003566&forum_id=2#43758814)



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Date: January 11th, 2022 10:11 AM
Author: bespoke aphrodisiac sanctuary halford

Returnal is a roguelike but the sessions are not quick. It's closer to a standard single player game in length than other roguelikes. If you die a decent ways in, it's pretty devastating. The boss fights are extremely intense because you have a lot on the line.

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Date: January 15th, 2022 12:00 AM
Author: Hilarious grizzly reading party

Disco Elysium

Farcry 6

Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart

Fortnite

Red Dead Redemption 2

Batman: The Dark Knight

Luigi's Mansion 3

NBA 2K22

Grab Turismo Sport

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