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i still dont get how the earth can move in space at 30km per second and its fine
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Date: January 24th, 2022 1:14 PM Author: free-loading nubile double fault i googled "how fast does the earth move around the sun in km per second" and the answer was "As schoolchildren, we learn that the earth is moving about our sun in a very nearly circular orbit. It covers this route at a speed of nearly 30 kilometers per second, or 67,000 miles per hour."
i guess if it's just empty, absolute vacuum better than any can be created artificially on earth it is moving through, then you cannot feel this speed. but on its own, that is 30 freaking km per second! that is absolutely bonkers. and it's accelerating at that speed, since it constantly changes direction. i thought acceleration was felt by those experiencing it, whereas uniform velocity in a straight line wasn't. how come we don't feel it, aside from the fact we are moving through absolutely nothing in our way?
and there is one more thing. this 30 km/sec is in relation to the sun, whereas every speed on earth is in relation to something moving on the earth or to the earth itself. so this speed is unlike our normal speeds, because it's not in relation to anything on the earth but in relation to the sun.
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Date: January 24th, 2022 1:30 PM Author: Duck-like nudist address boltzmann You hit on precisely what Science-loving rebunking bunk debunkers always fail to account for - we are constantly accelerating in the current model. We are constantly corkscrewing on a curving curve that curves at immense speeds. Here's reality - the earth is motionless and at the center of the universe. http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4851830&mc=9&forum_id=2 http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4976539&mc=3&forum_id=2 |
Date: January 24th, 2022 1:15 PM Author: Pea-brained rehab (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43838744) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 1:18 PM Author: irradiated azn love of her life We are moving far faster than that. Because our solar system is moving (483,000 mph). When the dinosaurs roamed, our solar system was in a different quadrant of the galaxy. More than that, the Milky Way is moving at 1.3 MILLION mph through the universe. So you are moving somewhere between 1.3 and 1.8 million MPH at any given time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43838775) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 1:22 PM Author: free-loading nubile double fault wait, what is the milky way moving in relation to? it has to be in relation to some inertial object, it cant just be in the universe and that's that, since there is no absolute speed. but yes, i read somewhere that the solar system revolves at insane speeds around the center of the milky way, which has a super massive black hole there supposedly.
all these speeds are non-important, only speeds that have any meaning are ones in relation to the earth or objects on it. otherwise, it's just cartoon land. |
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Date: January 25th, 2022 5:59 AM Author: Pink Aromatic Tanning Salon Nibblets The universe is expanding. Movement of the galaxy can be measured relative to any other galaxy or point in between, most of which are moving away from us, a few are moving towards - Andromeda and the Milky Way are moving towards one another at 110km/s due to the local effects of gravity. Since the universe is expanding, the farther away a given galaxy is, the faster it's accelerating away from us. For each megaparsec (3.3M ly), the universe is moving at an extra 73.3km/s. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43842952) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 1:26 PM Author: Pea-brained rehab (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43838854) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 3:02 PM Author: Shivering red theater stage What's the frame of reference? When you say the solar system is 'moving', relative to what? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43839539) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 3:08 PM Author: free-loading nubile double fault the frame of reference is the center of our galaxy, the milky way. like the earth revolves around the sun, so does the solar system, ie the sun and everything that revolves around it, in turn revolves around the center of the milky way galaxy. we make our way through it via hundreds of millions of years, which is a complete revolution if remember. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43839572) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 1:20 PM Author: free-loading nubile double fault also, i still cant believe that it takes a full 8 minutes for light to reach the earth from the sun. that means the sun is very, very far away. and yet its light illuminates and descends heat on everything year round, and in the summer it's extreme. from that far off? that up there must be one hot ball of fire. not to mention that luminosity goes down exponentially with distance, so imagine how bright the sun truly is, if you come closer and closer to it? it burns the eye to look at it just for a moment, and it's nowhere near as bright as it could be. jesus christ... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43838794) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 1:25 PM Author: Duck-like nudist address boltzmann Also don't forget the sun is closest to the earth (by multiple millions of miles) in January and furthest in July. Science! |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 1:29 PM Author: free-loading nubile double fault i think you got that wrong, the sun is closest in july and farthest in january. hence, less sunlight in january. im still not sure why that is, though, since the wiki article says our orbit is nearly circular. could the slight difference between elliptical and perfectly circular really account for the difference between winter and summer? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43838886) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 1:31 PM Author: Duck-like nudist address boltzmann https://www.space.com/3304-earth-closest-sun-dead-winter.html (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43838910) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 2:21 PM Author: free-loading nubile double fault holy shit, the earth is tilted at 23 degrees! thats a lot, no wonder we get seasons. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43839253) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 1:32 PM Author: Rough-skinned Internet-worthy Puppy No, he's correct. The seasons are determined by that angle of the globe. In January, we are angled away from the Sun, despite being closer, and that's why it's cold in the Northern hemisphere. In July it's the opposite. |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 2:13 PM Author: free-loading nubile double fault got it. thanks. so its the angle of the earth in relation to the sun thats responsible for the seasons. what an oddity!
a mere angling of the earth, as if by chance, has created summer and winter, and fall and spring. what a cosmic joke. |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 1:27 PM Author: Pea-brained rehab its insane isnt it?
watch Sunshine (2007) if you haven't already |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 1:28 PM Author: startled senate luminosity does not go down exponentially with distance, wtf (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43838870) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 1:31 PM Author: free-loading nubile double fault oh, i thought ti did, like light intensity. i thought i read that somewhere once, i could have been wrong. but it does go down, you must admit. if its linearly, then thats still a lot of distance between earth and sun. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43838897) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 1:42 PM Author: startled senate lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43838991) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 2:54 PM Author: Adventurous apoplectic trust fund brightness does though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43839488) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 2:55 PM Author: free-loading nubile double fault well, thats what luminosity is. how bright something is. so not only are we really far from the sun, that distance creates a brightness that increases exponentially with it! imagine how unimaginably truly bright the sun is, when its much closer. my god... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43839492) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 2:59 PM Author: Adventurous apoplectic trust fund Yeah actually it's hard to fathom. You can feel the warmth of the sun on your shoulders when they represent what percentage of the sun's energy output for those 5 seconds? Like 0.00000000000000001%? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43839514) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 3:01 PM Author: free-loading nubile double fault its a lot less than that, if i remember correctly. that percentage is closer to how much of the sun's daily energy that falls on the earth gets used by living matter for its internal operations. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43839528) |
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Date: January 25th, 2022 6:13 AM Author: Pink Aromatic Tanning Salon Nibblets Wait, yes it does. It has to. Luminosity decreases cubically with distance.
Edit: I'm dumb. Luminosity is an absolute. It's brightness that I'm thinking of. |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 1:28 PM Author: free-loading nubile double fault by the way, where do you think the universe is? does it just without bound go on forever, infinitely in all directions? every space has a container to it, or a surface that bounds it. it's impossible to think of space without a boundary surface. the model for space is a three-dimensional cube, but the cube is not infinite, it is bounded by plane surfaces. i just cannot imagine an infinite universe. maybe the universe is nowhere, that would do the trick logically. since it is nowhere, it can go on forever. it doesn't really exist, except in the mind. there is no universe, there is only consciousness perceiving a universe. the consciousness is real, the universe isn't. the consciousness exists nowhere, it doesnt need a place, and it projects a reality into the mind. there is no reality, there is only the mind projecting a reality, in utter nothingness. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43838868) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 1:31 PM Author: Rough-skinned Internet-worthy Puppy Your father is literally a Caterpillar mechanic. Have him teach you how to change oil you degenerate fuck. |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 2:15 PM Author: free-loading nubile double fault its too late. im 37. plus, i see how dirty he gets when he comes home sometimes. a mechanic, working with grease, with all kinds of heavy duty equipment, and loud noises, is not a job for me. i wouldnt be able to hack it, believe me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43839226) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 1:28 PM Author: brass set it's not fine; it's a disaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43838879) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 1:30 PM Author: Bespoke Volcanic Crater its not "moving" anywhere, that's a masonic hoax. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43838892) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 1:31 PM Author: provocative copper house lol this but not flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43838899) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 2:48 PM Author: Bespoke Volcanic Crater 100% not flame, brother. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43839443) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 4:37 PM Author: provocative copper house i know this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43840159) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 1:34 PM Author: shimmering menage how come the earth doesnt just zoom away from the space shuttles we send up then, huh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43838927) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 1:35 PM Author: Mint Ticket Booth the vast majority of space is empty and there's nothing to run into as it orbits the sun (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43838941) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 1:36 PM Author: Spectacular Resort Bc it’s flat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43838943) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 2:17 PM Author: Chrome yarmulke casino Just like evolution, modern cosmology is nothing more than the devil’s crafty work to separate you from God. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43839231) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 2:22 PM Author: Brindle shitlib stage (80-IQ bro) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43839261) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 2:22 PM Author: free-loading nubile double fault i have seen, or rather experienced, god on dmt. i am very confused. everything in science points to there to being no god, and then i did a drug that made me see and feel infinity, feel a highest being possible, and experience friendly feelings from it. i dont know what to believe anymore, im in a tailspin of belief and disbelief in a personal god. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43839264) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 2:23 PM Author: Chrome yarmulke casino There is only one God. I pray you find Him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43839269) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 2:26 PM Author: free-loading nubile double fault yes, the God of christianity, where he came down as Jesus Christ to suffer for our sins so that we may be released from them. thats the God i meant. what other god do you think there is? or you know what, you are right. i could be thinking of some supreme being, a spirit, and not at all of jesus christ. i have a lot of stuff on my plate, its too many questions, too many threads. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43839298) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 2:28 PM Author: Chrome yarmulke casino I’m happy to talk to you about this, friend. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43839310) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 2:32 PM Author: free-loading nubile double fault well, i do believe in a personal god emotionally, but intellectually it just does not add up at all. and then i have the stupid dmt experience where its too obvious that there is in fact a supreme spirit, the god of all things. the highest being there is, uncreated.
but then again, this dmt shit could be some alien dimension trick to extract feelings of god from me, a human, by some interdimensional beings into whose reality i got dropped by smoking dmt. cant trust what i felt completely, you know. the rest of the experience was very bizarre, the god experience was like walking through the park on a nice day compared to the rest of the shit i experienced. |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 2:37 PM Author: Chrome yarmulke casino Why do you feel it doesn’t make intellectual sense? Intelligent design is more intellectually satisfying to me than the “Big Bang” and humans evolving from fish who themselves evolved from single celled organisms who evolved from nothing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43839370) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 2:42 PM Author: free-loading nubile double fault like in this thread, there is a post where i talk about how the mere tilt of the earth creates seasons. something so personal and emotional is a mere artifact of chance configuration in space. thats the kind of stuff im referring to. i dont personally believe in evolution by natural selection and adaptation, i believe evolution, if you can call it that, happens somehow otherwise. its a lot more mysterious than biochemistry and molecular biology let on, although i must confess i do believe that scientists arent lying when they say there is nothing to differentiate living matter from inorganic matter except the types of molecules, there is no mysterious life-force to be found to seperate life from inanimate objects like rocks. we are all just stuff.
and facts about astrophysics and astronomy are the big deal breaker. for example, why does the earth move? why is it one of several planets? plus, knowing that the moon is just another satellite, like other moons orbiting planets, makes it not very special. these kinds of facts make everything into a chance occurrence, where there is no place for an eternal soul or an all knowing, all-powerful personal god. |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 2:27 PM Author: Brindle shitlib stage Would be a lot easier if he didn’t make himself invisible and hide from everyone. The guy is like the world champion of hide and seek (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43839303) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 2:30 PM Author: Chrome yarmulke casino He walked among men and performed mind blowing miracles for thousands to see. This was all documented and those who saw it accepted death rather than recant even though their professions of faith got them nothing but oppression. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43839317) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 2:35 PM Author: free-loading nubile double fault wow... incredible.
how come the old testament is more interesting than the new testament? its like it was written by a smarter author. not that its a literary competition. there is a lot of dreck (in my opinion) as well in old testament that weighs it down, but a lot of very interesting phrasing and passages that far surpass the depths of the new testament. well actually, thats not true. the story of christ and his suffering for mankind is unsurpassed as a story. but the literary merit is higher in some of the old testament, much higher. |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 2:49 PM Author: Brindle shitlib stage It was "documented" by one anonymous writer 40 years later. Kind of strange given all the educated scholars and historians of the time who surely would have noticed that there was a wizard performing magic for crowds of thousands.
The "they wouldn't die for a lie" argument is also horseshit, given that (1) delusional cultists have died for false beliefs at many times throughout history, (2) there is no good evidence that any "eyewitnesses" were killed for their beliefs, and (3) we have no way of knowing for a fact that recanting would saved them.
https://infidels.org/library/modern/richard-carrier-resurrection-2/#iv |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 2:21 PM Author: Brindle shitlib stage yeah and how come when I’m in an airplane I don’t feel like I’m moving at high speed and my drink doesn’t spill?! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43839255) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 2:23 PM Author: Chrome yarmulke casino You do when the plane is accelerating. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43839265) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 2:26 PM Author: Brindle shitlib stage lmao you’re so close to getting it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43839297) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 2:30 PM Author: free-loading nubile double fault so to answer your original question, its because you are cruising at a steady speed. you arent accelerating. when its windy and there is a lot of back and forth movement, everyone gets scared and suddenly you feel the motion of something. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43839318) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 2:32 PM Author: Chrome yarmulke casino Why don’t I feel the universe expanding at an increasing rate? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43839330) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 2:38 PM Author: free-loading nubile double fault supposedly its expanding on the order of galaxies, so its not like you would feel it. its the galaxies that are getting away from each other, not the stars inside of them. or so i understand things, im not sure wtf they are talking about at all. its expanding into what, how expanding? as far as im concerned, its just a mathematical trick until someone explains it to me, because most of modern physics, 20th century onward, is math tricks. the train left the building where physics was tied to the imagination and actual physical models at the end of the 19th century, id say with the Erlangen program commenced by Felix Kline, where he turned geometry into a relations game, which got outdone in 1899 by david hilbert, completely obliterating the imagination in relation to physical science.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erlangen_program |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 2:35 PM Author: Opaque exhilarant location jew life is a lot shorter and we take it for granted, like arrogant ants (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43839356) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 2:38 PM Author: brilliant mind-boggling base (Bill Nye) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43839381) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 2:42 PM Author: soggy goal in life pozpig https://www.wtamu.edu/~cbaird/sq/2013/07/01/why-doesnt-the-earth-fall-down/#:~:text=The%20sun%20is%20so%20far,speed%20in%20a%20straight%20line. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43839418) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 3:00 PM Author: free-loading nubile double fault this is the level at which i inderstand science. i remember when i had courses like science 8, science 9, science 10. those i understood. then i took physics 11, chemistry 11. i barely understood those. i guess i did, but barely. then i took physics 12, chemistry 12, and forget it, i understood next to nothing. thats high school. i also took general biology for arts majors in college, and i did understand that material. anything beyond and including senior physics and senior chemistry, forget it! i believe its called "college physics" and the one before that i barely understood was called "high school physics", after that its AP Mechanics and AP Electricity and Magnetism, courses one can take in high school, which use calculus. AP Chemistry exists, as well. higher level than what i took. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43839520) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 3:16 PM Author: free-loading nubile double fault "All objects in the universe are constantly falling. You fall to the earth every time you jump. You and the earth are constantly falling around the sun. You, the earth, and the sun are constantly falling around the center of the galaxy. Why don't we feel all this falling motion? We do experience all this falling, we just don't notice it. The sun is so far away compared to humans, that our falling motion around the sun is very close to a constant speed in a straight line. Interestingly, you can't feel a constant speed in a straight line. Similarly, the galactic center is so far away that our falling motion around the galactic center is very close to a constant speed in a straight line. Our actual trajectory around the galactic center is curved, but the curve is so huge that it is essentially straight on human scales."
thanks for that. good answer. |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 3:00 PM Author: Crawly meetinghouse stain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43839527) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 3:02 PM Author: Brindle shitlib stage Flapping your arms is acceleration of your arms so this doesn't really tell us why the germs don't come off (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43839537) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 3:10 PM Author: Crawly meetinghouse stain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43839575) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 3:10 PM Author: Brindle shitlib stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43839577) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 3:12 PM Author: free-loading nubile double fault ive actually done arm flapping since i was a kid. autism is a curse, like being blind.
i rue the day i was born, in general. |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 3:17 PM Author: Brindle shitlib stage Date: January 24th, 2022 3:12 PM Author: prince
ive actually done arm flapping since i was a kid. autism is a curse, like being blind. i rue the day i was born, in general.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43839585) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 3:17 PM Author: Crawly meetinghouse stain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43839618) |
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Date: January 24th, 2022 3:02 PM Author: free-loading nubile double fault different physics involved at that level. they stick better. have you seen ants walk on water? they do all the time, its simple for them. different physics at different levels of reality. but i get your point, we are very tiny relative to the earth and are "stuck" to the earth for all intents and purposes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5015589&forum_id=2#43839540) |