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What will Putin do if Finland does join NATO as expected? He can’t let it go

Could Russia maintain two border wars at the same time? Also...
scarlet heaven half-breed
  05/13/22
two border wars? it can't maintain one lol
multi-colored mauve national
  05/13/22
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Cordovan Kitty Stage
  05/14/22
Trade with Russia is like 15% of Finnish GDP. Without Russia...
titillating library
  05/13/22
So what? They’re still joining NATO.
scarlet heaven half-breed
  05/13/22
Lmao bro
high-end station main people
  05/13/22
Russia will use the excess logs to build new wood-clad T-72Z...
Marvelous insecure church immigrant
  05/13/22
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racy hissy fit
  05/13/22
Pitch perfect
Lascivious Hell
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Sable Aromatic Fortuitous Meteor
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blathering thriller sanctuary headpube
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deranged mentally impaired lay
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charismatic brindle kitchen
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curious azn
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pearl swashbuckling mad-dog skullcap
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greedy temple becky
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lake toilet seat gunner
  05/15/22
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Histrionic digit ratio
  05/15/22
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Pea-brained goal in life orchestra pit
  05/15/22
lol
Zippy Bateful Set
  05/16/22
Lmao
Saffron Bull Headed Theatre Jap
  05/13/22
You dont seem to understand how shit works, friend.
racy hissy fit
  05/13/22
You've gone from shtick to absurd.
fiercely-loyal rusted stead dopamine
  05/13/22
The Finnish army is much more well equipped and trained than...
rose yapping queen of the night
  05/13/22
Putin will have to give up MORE territory to the Chinese to ...
free-loading offensive place of business bawdyhouse
  05/13/22
They would absolutely mop the floor with Russia which has no...
high-end station main people
  05/13/22
not to mention their PM is a total babe who many would willi...
multi-colored mauve national
  05/13/22
just looked her up cot damn. there’s no way the world ...
scarlet heaven half-breed
  05/13/22
CR. The MSM somehow lionized a 5'5" ugly jewish guy wh...
curious azn
  05/14/22
He’ll cut off all relations with Finland and stick 100...
Floppy Sapphire Public Bath
  05/13/22
Cr and also the CYBER POLYGON is gonna kill us all like any ...
high-end station main people
  05/13/22
I give you credit for having consistent basement incel takes...
fiercely-loyal rusted stead dopamine
  05/13/22
Hitler would’ve been a 4chan poster
Floppy Sapphire Public Bath
  05/13/22
You're only allowed to see your children in a police station
Exciting multi-billionaire whorehouse
  05/13/22
finland will be a nuclear wasteland when ww3 happens because...
Floppy Sapphire Public Bath
  05/13/22
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Soul-stirring Puppy
  05/13/22
And you think Russia would survive?
Cordovan Kitty Stage
  05/14/22
I see my simple words were too hard for you to understand. ...
Floppy Sapphire Public Bath
  05/14/22
Tell me more about why you think Russia will commit suicide.
Cordovan Kitty Stage
  05/14/22
Putin can fuck himself.
racy hissy fit
  05/13/22
He won't do shit because he can't do shit as is being demons...
fiercely-loyal rusted stead dopamine
  05/13/22
He'll invade right after he manages to get through the Donba...
light mind-boggling famous landscape painting
  05/13/22
Probably just get more injections for his cancer and Parkins...
Jet house black woman
  05/13/22
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSp1wGvXEAIwxWI?format=jpg&n...
Marvelous insecure church immigrant
  05/13/22
Why does Putin have a wooden sword?
light mind-boggling famous landscape painting
  05/13/22
that's "Little Russia" aka Belarus
Marvelous insecure church immigrant
  05/13/22
you mean ukraine. belarus is the white russians. ukro are th...
deranged mentally impaired lay
  05/13/22
Lmao
Flirting jew
  05/13/22
Based
Stirring Love Of Her Life
  05/14/22
I'm pretty sure Putin would happily trade Sweden and Finland...
Vibrant Shrine Affirmative Action
  05/13/22
What makes you think it’s a trade?
scarlet heaven half-breed
  05/13/22
100%.
heady potus
  05/15/22
he can't do shit. finland will take karelia and petsamo back
Soul-stirring Puppy
  05/13/22
Westerners are so delusional. They will get nothing. But t...
Vibrant Shrine Affirmative Action
  05/13/22
if a country joining NATO accomplishes nothing why is Putin ...
multi-colored mauve national
  05/13/22
Killing all Hahols is about killing all Hahols. NATO is but ...
titillating library
  05/14/22
Go back to Buryatia
Zippy Bateful Set
  05/14/22
The same thing TBF does when you point out he’s wrong ...
chestnut macaca market
  05/13/22
Russia has cut all electricity supplies to Finland. https:/...
titillating library
  05/14/22
You should tell Finland.
Cordovan Kitty Stage
  05/14/22
The empire isn’t telling anyone anything anymore. The ...
titillating library
  05/14/22
the EU's GDP is 11X that of Russia's lol
multi-colored mauve national
  05/14/22
And Im sure that fact will make them very happy when they pa...
titillating library
  05/14/22
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blathering thriller sanctuary headpube
  05/14/22
180 xo Finland will now hate Russia forever and will defi...
blathering thriller sanctuary headpube
  05/14/22
I hope he nukes us
Concupiscible box office
  05/14/22
nothing
Zippy Bateful Set
  05/14/22
Cope, seethe, dilate
abusive marketing idea resort
  05/14/22
already proven right in above prediction https://www.dail...
Floppy Sapphire Public Bath
  05/15/22
Does it make any difference to Finland if nukes are on their...
scarlet heaven half-breed
  05/15/22
Not except psychologically. Would you want a bunch of nukes...
Floppy Sapphire Public Bath
  05/15/22


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Date: May 13th, 2022 12:24 PM
Author: scarlet heaven half-breed

Could Russia maintain two border wars at the same time? Also what are Finland’s odds of successfully repelling a Russian invasion?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44505745)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 12:25 PM
Author: multi-colored mauve national

two border wars? it can't maintain one lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44505749)



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Date: May 14th, 2022 2:37 AM
Author: Cordovan Kitty Stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44509998)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 12:26 PM
Author: titillating library

Trade with Russia is like 15% of Finnish GDP. Without Russian wood all the paper mills in that shithole shut down. He has embargoed the country already.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44505754)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 12:39 PM
Author: scarlet heaven half-breed

So what? They’re still joining NATO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44505830)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 12:40 PM
Author: high-end station main people

Lmao bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44505836)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 12:45 PM
Author: Marvelous insecure church immigrant

Russia will use the excess logs to build new wood-clad T-72Z "Izba" megatank. Log armor impervious to 5.56 NATO munitions. Comes with same Pizdets-86 turret ejector system already deployed in T-72 tank. Yankee pigs will drown in own blood as Czar's red banner flies triumphantly over the Reichstag in Berlin.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44505862)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 1:06 PM
Author: racy hissy fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44505976)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 1:12 PM
Author: Lascivious Hell

Pitch perfect

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44506009)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 1:21 PM
Author: Sable Aromatic Fortuitous Meteor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44506052)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 2:55 PM
Author: blathering thriller sanctuary headpube



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44506575)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 3:20 PM
Author: deranged mentally impaired lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44506774)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 10:15 PM
Author: charismatic brindle kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44508999)



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Date: May 14th, 2022 4:14 AM
Author: curious azn



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44510249)



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Date: May 14th, 2022 9:25 AM
Author: pearl swashbuckling mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44510591)



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Date: May 14th, 2022 7:06 PM
Author: greedy temple becky



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44512687)



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Date: May 15th, 2022 10:07 PM
Author: lake toilet seat gunner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44518614)



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Date: May 15th, 2022 10:11 PM
Author: Histrionic digit ratio



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44518632)



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Date: May 15th, 2022 11:35 PM
Author: Pea-brained goal in life orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44519109)



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Date: May 16th, 2022 9:59 AM
Author: Zippy Bateful Set

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44520149)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 12:46 PM
Author: Saffron Bull Headed Theatre Jap

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44505869)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 1:06 PM
Author: racy hissy fit

You dont seem to understand how shit works, friend.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44505974)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 1:07 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal rusted stead dopamine

You've gone from shtick to absurd.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44505977)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 12:37 PM
Author: rose yapping queen of the night

The Finnish army is much more well equipped and trained than the Ukrainian army. In a conventional war on their own territory, they might well be able to repel the Russians, especially with Western support.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44505813)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 12:40 PM
Author: free-loading offensive place of business bawdyhouse

Putin will have to give up MORE territory to the Chinese to prevent Finland occupying St Petersburg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44505834)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 12:40 PM
Author: high-end station main people

They would absolutely mop the floor with Russia which has now been exposed as a paper tiger.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44505835)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 12:49 PM
Author: multi-colored mauve national

not to mention their PM is a total babe who many would willingly die for

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44505896)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 12:50 PM
Author: scarlet heaven half-breed

just looked her up cot damn. there’s no way the world wouldn’t come to her aide

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44505906)



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Date: May 14th, 2022 4:20 AM
Author: curious azn

CR. The MSM somehow lionized a 5'5" ugly jewish guy who was *just* on the periphery of a massive TRUMP scandal (not a downside for me, but is for the MSM).

This chick's narrative writes itself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44510262)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 12:52 PM
Author: Floppy Sapphire Public Bath

He’ll cut off all relations with Finland and stick 100 nuclear weapons right on the border ready to obliterate Finland at a moments notice, that’s it . No Russian invasion

Congrats Finland, your country will be completely obliterated when ww3 kicks off because it’s so dumb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44505913)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 1:07 PM
Author: high-end station main people

Cr and also the CYBER POLYGON is gonna kill us all like any day now

You gullible fucking rube

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44505985)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 1:08 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal rusted stead dopamine

I give you credit for having consistent basement incel takes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44505991)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 1:22 PM
Author: Floppy Sapphire Public Bath

Hitler would’ve been a 4chan poster

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44506055)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 2:30 PM
Author: Exciting multi-billionaire whorehouse

You're only allowed to see your children in a police station

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44506419)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 2:44 PM
Author: Floppy Sapphire Public Bath

finland will be a nuclear wasteland when ww3 happens because they're led by a menstrating millennial woman who got caught up in social media virtue signaling. finland was and is under no danger of russian attack, and if the soviet union couldn't take finland without difficulties, there's no way this shitty russian military would have half a chance. if Finland was led by a sober MAN then they would stay neutral and avoid nuclear armageddon.

the comforting about this is that all of FLW's distant relatives will die.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44506518)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 2:45 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44506522)



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Date: May 14th, 2022 2:38 AM
Author: Cordovan Kitty Stage

And you think Russia would survive?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44510002)



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Date: May 14th, 2022 9:41 AM
Author: Floppy Sapphire Public Bath

I see my simple words were too hard for you to understand. Let me try in even simpler language:

1. WW3 will be Russia and China vs Nato

2. If nukes are used all participant countries will be nuked

3. Finland could have survived due to neutrality but now? 0 chance . For no upside

Is that simple enough for you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44510633)



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Date: May 14th, 2022 1:04 PM
Author: Cordovan Kitty Stage

Tell me more about why you think Russia will commit suicide.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44511306)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 1:06 PM
Author: racy hissy fit

Putin can fuck himself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44505968)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 1:08 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal rusted stead dopamine

He won't do shit because he can't do shit as is being demonstrated in Ukraine every day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44505996)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 1:10 PM
Author: light mind-boggling famous landscape painting

He'll invade right after he manages to get through the Donbas in 2025.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44506000)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 1:19 PM
Author: Jet house black woman

Probably just get more injections for his cancer and Parkinson's.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44506041)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 2:22 PM
Author: Marvelous insecure church immigrant

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSp1wGvXEAIwxWI?format=jpg&name=900x900



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44506369)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 2:25 PM
Author: light mind-boggling famous landscape painting

Why does Putin have a wooden sword?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44506383)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 2:33 PM
Author: Marvelous insecure church immigrant

that's "Little Russia" aka Belarus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44506444)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 3:23 PM
Author: deranged mentally impaired lay

you mean ukraine. belarus is the white russians. ukro are the little russians.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44506788)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 2:42 PM
Author: Flirting jew

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44506501)



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Date: May 14th, 2022 2:33 AM
Author: Stirring Love Of Her Life

Based

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44509993)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 3:43 PM
Author: Vibrant Shrine Affirmative Action

I'm pretty sure Putin would happily trade Sweden and Finland in NATO for getting Ukraine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44506886)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 5:58 PM
Author: scarlet heaven half-breed

What makes you think it’s a trade?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44507560)



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Date: May 15th, 2022 10:13 PM
Author: heady potus

100%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44518647)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 3:46 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Puppy

he can't do shit. finland will take karelia and petsamo back

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44506913)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 3:47 PM
Author: Vibrant Shrine Affirmative Action

Westerners are so delusional. They will get nothing. But they will claim victory because they "joined NATO" as though that accomplishes anything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44506917)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 10:03 PM
Author: multi-colored mauve national

if a country joining NATO accomplishes nothing why is Putin so bothered by the possibility?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44508915)



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Date: May 14th, 2022 2:38 AM
Author: titillating library

Killing all Hahols is about killing all Hahols. NATO is but a tiny part of it. Death to Nazis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44510001)



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Date: May 14th, 2022 4:16 AM
Author: Zippy Bateful Set

Go back to Buryatia

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44510254)



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Date: May 13th, 2022 6:03 PM
Author: chestnut macaca market

The same thing TBF does when you point out he’s wrong about something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44507576)



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Date: May 14th, 2022 2:28 AM
Author: titillating library

Russia has cut all electricity supplies to Finland.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10814175/Russia-CUTS-electricity-Finland.html

https://twitter.com/GonzaloLira1968/status/1524795522933989377?s=20&t=YsKRceoslyzGJ9Oi9z1SKQ

Finland:

►It imports all its natural gas from Russia.

►6% of its electrical energy comes from natural gas.

►It has no other supplier of natural gas, and no means to receive liquified gas.

►21% of its electricity is produced by oil.

►100% of its oil comes from Russia.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44509966)



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Date: May 14th, 2022 2:40 AM
Author: Cordovan Kitty Stage

You should tell Finland.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44510008)



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Date: May 14th, 2022 2:45 AM
Author: titillating library

The empire isn’t telling anyone anything anymore. The empire is simply cutting supply and leaving Europe to rot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44510023)



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Date: May 14th, 2022 4:25 AM
Author: multi-colored mauve national

the EU's GDP is 11X that of Russia's lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44510268)



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Date: May 14th, 2022 4:37 AM
Author: titillating library

And Im sure that fact will make them very happy when they pay $20 a gallon for fuel and 5x more to heat the house and the price of food doubles for the second time. Meanwhile Russia is redirecting all the same supplies of oil and gas to India and China and not giving one fuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44510287)



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Date: May 14th, 2022 5:58 PM
Author: blathering thriller sanctuary headpube



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44512425)



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Date: May 14th, 2022 5:35 PM
Author: blathering thriller sanctuary headpube

180

xo Finland will now hate Russia forever and will definitely want to get Karelia back

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44512335)



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Date: May 14th, 2022 2:31 AM
Author: Concupiscible box office

I hope he nukes us

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44509983)



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Date: May 14th, 2022 2:40 AM
Author: Zippy Bateful Set

nothing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44510012)



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Date: May 14th, 2022 7:47 AM
Author: abusive marketing idea resort

Cope, seethe, dilate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44510392)



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Date: May 15th, 2022 9:49 PM
Author: Floppy Sapphire Public Bath

already proven right in above prediction

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10819347/Russia-threatens-nuclear-weapon-strike-NATO-bases-appear-Sweden-Finland.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44518506)



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Date: May 15th, 2022 9:59 PM
Author: scarlet heaven half-breed

Does it make any difference to Finland if nukes are on their border versus being based elsewhere but programmed to fly to Finland? Serious Q. I just don’t see how this threat is a deterrent but maybe I don’t understand

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Date: May 15th, 2022 10:04 PM
Author: Floppy Sapphire Public Bath

Not except psychologically. Would you want a bunch of nukes on your border aimed directly at you?

The key difference is that in a nato vs Russia nuke war, before joining nato Finland maybe could have been okay. Now it will be annihilated in this scenario, all for no upside

It’s an extremely major self pwn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5108392&forum_id=2#44518591)