Europeans replaced God with society.

Americans replaced God with self.

The American secular religion is this:

- Victims can do no wrong

- You should see yourself as a victim in any way you can, in order to justify whatever you want

- Words are violence

- Because words are violence, you can respond to hurt feelings with violence (BLM riots)

- If you respond to hurt feelings with violence, you will be vindicated and your oppressors will be scorned (Yale, Evergreen State College, etc. etc. etc.)

- Therefore it is your right to harm people if you feel aggrieved

Nothing like that exists in Europe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116200&forum_id=2#44574776)

we should either tax the churches or burn them down

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116200&forum_id=2#44568731)

The executive committee has no direct control over any congregation or pastor and doesn’t assign pastors to any particular church. It wouldn’t even have the legal authority to terminate a pastor-the local congregation would. The main allegations of wrongdoing is that it didn’t report the alleged offenders to itself or to the local congregation.

The Catholics Never investigated itself, only got called out through lawsuits and were assigning priests to various roles with the knowledge that they’d molested ppl elsewhere, has never waived attorney client privilege, and has taken little to no steps to ensure that it is avoided again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116200&forum_id=2#44568846)

no one gives a fuck about attorney-client privilege here, you fucking freak

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116200&forum_id=2#44568861)

The SBC itself decided to investigate itself and insisted it be an outside investigation.

Also we’re talking about a total of 700 abusers over 40 years in a denomination of 40 million people worldwide. The Catholic Church would kill if it could only 700 current abusers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116200&forum_id=2#44568937)

and if you think there are only 700 abusers, you're even dumber than you've looked here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116200&forum_id=2#44568943)

Then you watched all the religious ppl go get married, have kids and live normal lives while you eat alone in ur trendy apt w ur pet cat thinking abt how clause 2.5 interacts w 2.8 still waiting-hoping even- something will happen

and prove how stupid those religious cucks were. Then, you caught wind of the SBC investigating itself and knew it was the gotcha moment you’ve been waiting for? That your life isn’t a miserable waste bc the SBC decided to take steps to prevent abuse from occurring?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116200&forum_id=2#44569015)

i had a great time in sunday school and youth group, and got married in a church in front of 500 people. you sit in front of a blue screen, alone

go dream about little kids, pervert. repent while you still can. after all, you could get mowed down in a mass shooting tomorrow in this country, and in your current state, you'd be in a really sadistic part of hell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116200&forum_id=2#44569021)

Without free will and a self this is all God's fault.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116200&forum_id=2#44568877)

He gave a lot of instructions that, had the shooter listened, would have prevented the shooting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116200&forum_id=2#44570506)

Very convincing argument

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116200&forum_id=2#44568981)

About 1,480,000 results

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116200&forum_id=2#44568989)

*god gives your infant son cancer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116200&forum_id=2#44569073)

Chapter 38

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1 Then the LORD addressed Job out of the storm and said:

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Who is this that obscures divine plans with words of ignorance?

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2 Gird up your loins now, like a man; I will question you, and you tell me the answers!

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Where were you when I founded the earth? Tell me, if you have understanding.

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Who determined its size; do you know? Who stretched out the measuring line for it?

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Into what were its pedestals sunk, and who laid the cornerstone,

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3 While the morning stars sang in chorus and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

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And who shut within doors the sea, when it burst forth from the womb;

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When I made the clouds its garment and thick darkness its swaddling bands?

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When I set limits for it and fastened the bar of its door,

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And said: Thus far shall you come but no farther, and here shall your proud waves be stilled!

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Have you ever in your lifetime commanded the morning and shown the dawn its place

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For taking hold of the ends of the earth, till the wicked are shaken from its surface?

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The earth is changed as is clay by the seal, and dyed as though it were a garment;

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But from the wicked the light is withheld, and the arm of pride is shattered.

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Have you entered into the sources of the sea, or walked about in the depths of the abyss?

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Have the gates of death been shown to you, or have you seen the gates of darkness?

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Have you comprehended the breadth of the earth? Tell me, if you know all:

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Which is the way to the dwelling place of light, and where is the abode of darkness,

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That you may take them to their boundaries and set them on their homeward paths?

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4 You know, because you were born before them, and the number of your years is great!

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5 Have you entered the storehouse of the snow, and seen the treasury of the hail

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Which I have reserved for times of stress, for the days of war and of battle?

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Which way to the parting of the winds, whence the east wind spreads over the earth?

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Who has laid out a channel for the downpour and for the thunderstorm a path

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To bring rain to no man's land, the unpeopled wilderness;

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To enrich the waste and desolate ground till the desert blooms with verdure?

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Has the rain a father; or who has begotten the drops of dew?

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Out of whose womb comes the ice, and who gives the hoarfrost its birth in the skies,

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When the waters lie covered as though with stone that holds captive the surface of the deep?

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6 Have you fitted a curb to the Pleiades, or loosened the bonds of Orion?

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Can you bring forth the Mazzaroth in their season, or guide the Bear with its train?

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Do you know the ordinances of the heavens; can you put into effect their plan on the earth?

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7 Can you raise your voice among the clouds, or veil yourself in the waters of the storm?

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8 Can you send forth the lightnings on their way, or will they say to you, "Here we are"?

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Who counts the clouds in his wisdom? Or who tilts the water jars of heaven

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So that the dust of earth is fused into a mass and its clods made solid?

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Do you hunt the prey for the lioness or appease the hunger of her cubs,

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While they crouch in their dens, or lie in wait in the thicket?

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9 Who puts wisdom in the heart, and gives the cock its understanding?

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Who provides nourishment for the ravens when their young ones cry out to God, and they rove abroad without food?

https://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0839/__PFN.HTM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116200&forum_id=2#44569006)

Yahweh, giving cock understanding

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116200&forum_id=2#44569258)

God does not shout.

God does not whisper.

God does not write.

God does not hear.

God does not chat.

God does not comfort us."

And all the children asked her: "Who is God?" And Juana replied: "God smiles". And only then did everyone understand."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116200&forum_id=2#44570065)

"If God is real, then why do bad things happen? Betcha didn't think about that, theists!"

I have a sneaking suspicion one or two theologians may have wrestled with this question over the centuries.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116200&forum_id=2#44570177)

"Whatever theologians have come up with" is an uncountable number of works on this issue over the span of thousands of years. I suggest you avail yourself to one of the many (many) apologetic works on the matter.

Invoking "God's plan" can be shallow and unfulfilling given the horrendous circumstances but that doesn't necessarily mean its wrong. Really depends on your understanding of permissive will, free will, original sin, but most importantly of all, man's extremely minor status relative to the ways of the almighty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116200&forum_id=2#44570918)

You never cease to amaze me with the depths of your smug, Reddit-esque, 105-IQ ignorance.

There are literally dozens and dozens of serious atheistic arguments (and by serious, I mean arguments formulated by PhD-carrying professional philosophers who publish their arguments in peer-reviewed academic journals and monographs):

http://exapologist.blogspot.com/2019/09/sixty-arguments-for-atheism.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116200&forum_id=2#44572366)

He's saying this horse has been killed, beaten, burned, buried, dug up, desecrated, eaten, shit out, and reburied.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116200&forum_id=2#44572382)

Also, I wasn't responding to him on the argument from evil, but rather on his assertion that it's the only serious atheistic argument.

"He's saying this horse has been killed, beaten, burned, buried, dug up, desecrated, eaten, shit out, and reburied."

And I'm saying the two thousand years of theological speculation that you call "killed, beaten" etc might actually just amount to a load of shit, which is why (1) philosophers on both sides of the argument continue to hotly debate it to this day, contrary to your assertion that it's long buried, and (2) religious believers the world over continue to wrestle with the problem, lacking any satisfying answer. But yeah gee whiz why don't they just read Augustine if they want to feel better when little Jimmy gets brain cancer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116200&forum_id=2#44572426)

The quote was intended to show that neither of us (for your autism, "no man" does include my in that class by reference) has read the full works of a man dead for more than a millennium.

the horse was another reference and attempt to reiterate that the topic is settled for us here now. I'm not going to impart faith on you and you won't deconvert me by using "peer reviewed" toilet paper.

There is a place where people will engage you however, as my original poast in this thread suggests, its r/atheism. go knock yourself out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116200&forum_id=2#44572502)

Okay. What the fuck is your point? Yes, neither of us has read all of Augustine. What are you trying to say?

"the horse was another reference and attempt to reiterate that the topic is settled for us here now."

Who is "us"? If you personally aren't interested in it, great, but lots of people are. Maybe just don't bother posting in threads that are on topics you aren't interested in...?

"I'm not going to impart faith on you and you won't deconvert me by using 'peer reviewed' toilet paper."

I'm not trying to deconvert anyone. As I have attempted to explain to you repeatedly, I was responding to him solely with regard to his assertion that the argument from evil is the only argument for atheism. Maybe go back and read what I actually posted ITT before you continue to respond with barely intelligible and wholly irrelevant nonsense?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116200&forum_id=2#44572567)

which is why Christians generally take it to be a, *the*, serious argument for atheism. it’s speaking our language and working within our prior commitments

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116200&forum_id=2#44572631)

Let's start with the totally new concept covered in #1:

"Introduction to the Problem of Evil. The Problem of Evil.

1. If God is all-knowing and all-powerful, then God is able to prevent evil.

2. If God is perfectly good, then God is willing to prevent evil.

3. If God is both able and willing to prevent evil, then evil does not exist.

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4. Therefore, if God is all-knowing, all powerful, and perfectly good, then evil does not exist.[1]

Premise 2 is supported by observation of and testimony about the evil in the world: we observe, and hear news of, the moral evils of genocide, slavery, torture, murder, rape, kidnappings, etc., and of the natural evils of hurricanes, tornadoes, tsunamis, famine, drought, diseases, depression, etc."

Topical and new! You know before today I had never considered why I am a theist (Catholic) when evil exists, so this is all new to me. please, give me time to adapt my tiny brain to such complex ideas.

https://aquinasonline.com/problem-of-evil/

oh! what you say? it HAS been brought up before. well I never!

well I'll cut through the shit, i did this when i was 12-14.

so academic-- atheist: "i got you on a philosophical technicality!" theist: "im not bound by rules, but by Faith."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116200&forum_id=2#44572651)