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Assigning poasters as countries for future XO model UN thread

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big aqua abode associate
  09/27/22
Kosovo
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Date: March 23rd, 2021 1:33 PM Author: ,.,.,.,.,,.,..,:,,:,...
Drab Lascivious Chapel Macaca
  09/27/22
Alright enough of this crap. I am moderating the event tomor...
big aqua abode associate
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dashing forum
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Hyperactive snowy menage haunted graveyard
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Republic of Korea
big aqua abode associate
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numbah won
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Singapore
big aqua abode associate
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarong_party_girl
Jade stirring juggernaut partner
  09/27/22
Please keep it professional. But after tomorrow’s even...
big aqua abode associate
  09/27/22
is not a aussy accent hot for asian ?
Peach soul-stirring puppy
  09/27/22
Alright we're gonna need more than two delegates here.
big aqua abode associate
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Contagious Toilet Seat
  09/27/22
Mexico
big aqua abode associate
  09/27/22
Shouldn’t he be Canada
Mustard Motley Messiness
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He’s unvaxxed and going to Mexico, I don’t think...
big aqua abode associate
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Trip Senate
  09/27/22
Germany
big aqua abode associate
  09/27/22
180 BILLION
Trip Senate
  09/27/22
enjoy the ENDLESS bratwurst buffet
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Ein wunderbares Jaegerschnitzel!
Trip Senate
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Mustard Motley Messiness
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United Kingdom
big aqua abode associate
  09/27/22
cheers, mate
Mustard Motley Messiness
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Saudi Arabia
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India
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Guatemala
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Ay Papí
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The Netherlands
big aqua abode associate
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Chrome Ratface Shrine
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Paraguay
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Drab Lascivious Chapel Macaca
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Federated States of Micronesia
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Hairraiser turdskin
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South Africa
big aqua abode associate
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(New Rhodesia) but thanks
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At-the-ready place of business indian lodge
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"I Still Unload": This Man Is a "Nullo" ...
Drab Lascivious Chapel Macaca
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State of Palestine (observer status)
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Sri Lanka
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Brazil
big aqua abode associate
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How many Israels can there be?
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United Arab Emirates
big aqua abode associate
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so Muslim Israel
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Ecuador
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Palau
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USA
big aqua abode associate
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180! I will do my level best to display the appropriate l...
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I don’t give this one easily but I feel you are among ...
big aqua abode associate
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Vermilion odious rehab
  09/27/22
Many thank.
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Central African Republic
big aqua abode associate
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eff ewe
histrionic death wish potus
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dashing forum
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Italy
big aqua abode associate
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180 spaghetti meatball lasagna mafia Commendatori!
dashing forum
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dashing forum
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Argentina
big aqua abode associate
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perfect
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lol 180
dashing forum
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180 Las Malvinas son Argentinas
sienna fiercely-loyal native
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180
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180
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I want to be the Russian Federation.
brass appetizing sanctuary
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Then you need a moniker. I’m assigning you Tuvalu
big aqua abode associate
  09/27/22
Syka blyat!
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Glittery French Chef
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Canada
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The Philippines
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Iran
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Sudan
big aqua abode associate
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gimme one
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Hungary
big aqua abode associate
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Kazakhstan
big aqua abode associate
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Very nice!
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Bateful Incel
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Russian Federation
big aqua abode associate
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Bateful Incel
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Nigeria
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Moldova
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Ireland
big aqua abode associate
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Lol. Ok.
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Estonia
big aqua abode associate
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hmmm
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Japan
big aqua abode associate
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Interesting
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Turkey
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El Salvador
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Haiti
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Israel
big aqua abode associate
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What... the fuck?
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Since you love Jews so much
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Date: September 27th, 2022 1:57 AM
Author: big aqua abode associate

Thread is up here: http://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5200777&mc=8&forum_id=2

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Date: September 27th, 2022 7:09 AM
Author: Boyish ceo new version

Kosovo

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Date: September 27th, 2022 10:24 AM
Author: At-the-ready place of business indian lodge



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Date: September 27th, 2022 10:27 AM
Author: Drab Lascivious Chapel Macaca

Date: March 23rd, 2021 1:33 PM

Author: ,.,.,.,.,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,.

idk but dat feeling when you’re finally able to scratch your butthole and relieve the itch is 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4793914&forum_id=2#42152483)

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Date: September 27th, 2022 10:36 AM
Author: big aqua abode associate

Alright enough of this crap. I am moderating the event tomorrow and I will not be participating as a delegate. I will create a new thread with a prompt and poasters may make a poast representing their country’s interest and standpoint on it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5200302&forum_id=2#45237543)



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Date: September 27th, 2022 10:37 AM
Author: dashing forum



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Date: September 27th, 2022 1:57 AM
Author: Hyperactive snowy menage haunted graveyard



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Date: September 27th, 2022 1:58 AM
Author: big aqua abode associate

Republic of Korea

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Date: September 27th, 2022 2:01 AM
Author: Hyperactive snowy menage haunted graveyard

numbah won

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Date: September 27th, 2022 10:46 PM
Author: mahogany razzle-dazzle corn cake reading party



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Date: September 27th, 2022 1:58 AM
Author: Jade stirring juggernaut partner



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Date: September 27th, 2022 1:58 AM
Author: big aqua abode associate

Singapore

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Date: September 27th, 2022 1:59 AM
Author: Jade stirring juggernaut partner

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarong_party_girl

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Date: September 27th, 2022 2:00 AM
Author: big aqua abode associate

Please keep it professional. But after tomorrow’s event thread we’ll do a little party thread for the delegates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5200302&forum_id=2#45236701)



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Date: September 27th, 2022 2:00 AM
Author: Peach soul-stirring puppy

is not a aussy accent hot for asian ?

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Date: September 27th, 2022 6:38 AM
Author: big aqua abode associate

Alright we're gonna need more than two delegates here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5200302&forum_id=2#45236961)



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Date: September 27th, 2022 6:46 AM
Author: Contagious Toilet Seat



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Date: September 27th, 2022 6:48 AM
Author: big aqua abode associate

Mexico

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Date: September 27th, 2022 6:24 PM
Author: Mustard Motley Messiness

Shouldn’t he be Canada

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Date: September 27th, 2022 6:26 PM
Author: big aqua abode associate

He’s unvaxxed and going to Mexico, I don’t think he would faithfully represent the position of the Canadian government in the upcoming scenario thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5200302&forum_id=2#45240626)



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Date: September 27th, 2022 6:59 AM
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Date: September 27th, 2022 7:05 AM
Author: big aqua abode associate

Germany

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Date: September 27th, 2022 7:08 AM
Author: Trip Senate

180 BILLION

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Date: September 27th, 2022 10:23 AM
Author: buff abusive corner fat ankles

enjoy the ENDLESS bratwurst buffet

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Date: September 27th, 2022 10:50 AM
Author: Trip Senate

Ein wunderbares Jaegerschnitzel!

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Date: September 27th, 2022 7:10 AM
Author: Mustard Motley Messiness



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Date: September 27th, 2022 7:11 AM
Author: big aqua abode associate

United Kingdom

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Date: September 27th, 2022 6:24 PM
Author: Mustard Motley Messiness

cheers, mate

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Date: September 27th, 2022 7:23 AM
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Date: September 27th, 2022 7:26 AM
Author: big aqua abode associate

Saudi Arabia

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Date: September 27th, 2022 7:26 AM
Author: big aqua abode associate

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Date: September 27th, 2022 7:29 AM
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Date: September 27th, 2022 10:20 AM
Author: big aqua abode associate

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Date: September 27th, 2022 10:38 AM
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Date: September 27th, 2022 10:21 AM
Author: big aqua abode associate

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Date: September 28th, 2022 12:00 AM
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Date: September 27th, 2022 9:07 AM
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Date: September 27th, 2022 10:22 AM
Author: big aqua abode associate

The Netherlands

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Date: September 27th, 2022 10:24 AM
Author: Vermilion odious rehab

aw hell yeah

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Date: September 27th, 2022 9:08 AM
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Date: September 27th, 2022 10:22 AM
Author: big aqua abode associate

Paraguay

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Date: September 27th, 2022 9:12 AM
Author: Drab Lascivious Chapel Macaca

The world is a place that’s gone from being flat to round to crooked!

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Date: September 27th, 2022 10:23 AM
Author: big aqua abode associate

Federated States of Micronesia

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Date: September 27th, 2022 10:23 AM
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Date: September 27th, 2022 10:36 AM
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(New Rhodesia) but thanks

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Date: September 27th, 2022 9:15 AM
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Date: September 27th, 2022 9:38 AM
Author: Drab Lascivious Chapel Macaca

"I Still Unload": This Man Is a "Nullo" Who Removed His Penis and Balls

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Simon Davis

10/16/14 11:10AM

Filed to: INTERVIEWS

In 1994, a South Florida man who goes by the name Gelding was surgically castrated. In 2011, he had his penis removed as well. He's a "nullo": A cisgender man who removes his external genitalia completely as a form of body modification, and he recently agreed to answer our questions—from "why?" to "what do balls taste like?"

Gelding is a nudist and describes himself as a submissive bear. Apart from his desire to use a pseudonym, he let it all hang out (so to speak) when I reached out to him and graciously answered every question I had.

Is nullo your preferred term to describe yourself and others like you who are castrated and have removed their penis?

Yes, the reason that we use that it is not transgender. It's simply nullification of what you've got. A friend of mine Mack in San Francisco likes to use the term "mascunull", because I remain as masculine as they come with fur and so forth. But I no longer have the parts.

What are some misconceptions people have about nullos?

A few men don't know their own physiology to the point where they think if they lose their balls they can't come any more. And that's false. If you look at the physiology you see that the fluids are made by the seminal vesicles and the prostate. Very little of the fluid and the content is produced in the testes. I still unload.

But the active ingredient for impregnating someone isn't there.

Right.

Do you get a lot of people who think you're trying to become a woman?

Absolutely. And it's mostly the medical profession who sees the sexes as either male or female. And anyone who wants to alter any part of that is in some way suffering from gender dysphoria. They don't like themselves for some reason and they want to change gender. And that's absolutely false.

It's not a dysphoria. I see it in the positive way of working toward something, rather than away from something. Many of the guys instead of putting a negative feel on it see it as a positive. Being castrated is a positive to them. Rather than removing something that they dislike, they are moving in the direction that they want. I went through a long set of psychological evaluation sessions with a psychologist here in town, because that was necessary in order to have the penis removed.

You've previously discussed your 1994 castration. However, I didn't find anything on your penis removal in 2011. Can you talk about that?

I knew I was uncomfortable in having frankly large male parts. I would quite often sit on my own balls because they were loose unless I wore something tight and held them in I would sit on them and squash them. That got me into trouble playing soccer in college when they forced us to wear these hard plastic cups. What happened was I fell on a guy's upright knee with the weight of another player behind me, so two of us fell on the knee. The knee happened to hit the middle of the plastic cup and imploded and tore me up. I was severely injured.

The doctor saved everything but over a period of time the nerves gave me some problems and I had aches in my testicles all the time. When I was in the military service they tried doing a varicose vein removal but that didn't help, it just made matters worse. They thought I was suffering from varicose veins. So after leaving the service I had them removed. And that removed that little problem but I still had the nerve sensations in the penis which woke me up at night. So I could get erect, but it was painful.

So I talked with my urologist and he said the only treatment for that was to make it numb, which is very dangerous because if you make something like that numb then you don't know if it's infected for some reason. Or remove it, but to do that he needs to cover his ass and asked for a psychological evaluation. And my own doctor is a professor at Nova Southeastern University here in. She is the most brilliant doctor I've ever met. So, I asked her about this problem and she was very forthright and said "well, we'll have to treat you". She didn't consider it something that was wrong with me, she said "we have to investigate." I went to see a psychiatrist and he spent a good 90 minutes with me and said "yes, I have just the person that can work with you." So the psychologist did a battery of personality tests and said "you're perfectly fine, your only problem is that you've got these physical problems which work on your nerves." And I said "yeah." And he said "it also works with your personality" because I'm a gay submissive and I always have been and it wasn't working right. So in order to to fix it I worked toward a goal of having things removed. And that was it. I'm working in a positive way to solve my own personal problem.

But was castration something you were contemplating prior to the injury?

Yes. For whatever reason I was always embarrassed by the size of what I had. It didn't fit my personality.

Do you remember when you the fantasy to remove your testicles first occurred?

I had a baby face in high school, there was one of these bullies and he said "you have a man's equipment but you're still a boy" and he squeezed my balls in the shower. He was on the football team, I was on the soccer team showering together and he said "you shouldn't have such big equipment" so he squeezed my balls and at that point it was just a fantasy for me. So how about getting rid of them for some reason?

When did it go from fantasy to aspiration?

It became a fetish thing where I would do sort of more self destructive things with them like putting rubber bands around them and needles through the balls and whatnot. It's a progression which a lot of guys go through. It's something that works on them and they say "Well, how about if we just have them off? Then I won't be bothered by this constant urge to hurt them". And this is where a psychologist gets into the dysphoria. It's very difficult to distinguish whether it's a dislike for something or instead you're working towards something else. I always thought when I was on the beach—I was also on the swim team—and we had Speedos, it was difficult to pack everything in frankly. I would be embarrassed and everybody was looking and here I am and I've got the biggest package and I'm not the biggest guy and I got a whole lot of looks from everybody.

I had a big dick, it got damaged and I was a bottom. I didn't want to use it, I got pushed into using it, I had to take all sorts of medications and was tired of being somebody else's tool.

Broadly speaking, how can someone know that being a nullo is something they actually want to go through with as opposed to something they fantasize about?

That's something really for a psychologist to answer, but in talking to all the guys that I've been talking with, they try to come up with all sorts of different rationalizations to justify it. In my case, my medical situation really didn't justify it because I was just uncomfortable with what I had. It wasn't medically necessary. But I felt that I would be much more comfortable having the issues of having the sensation but not being able to use it well. It was something like a guy having a useless appendage and it's something he has to carry around, and it becomes baggage after a while.

If someone starts/botches the process on their own, what would you recommend they do? Should people use a cover story to avoid getting in trouble?

No. Go to the emergency room. Today, they have been exposed to a lot more of the literature out there than they were 20 years ago. They're not going to be institutionalized. I mean years ago they used to institutionalize guys that were gay.

How would you say the breakdown is between gay and straight men for nullos?

I would have to say it's mostly gays. I don't know of a straight guy who became a nullo.

You had said in a previous interview that for castrations it's about a two to one for gay to straight men that decide to do it.

I've heard of a couple of straight guys who decided that they were making too many babies so they had their balls off so they could take testosterone and continue. I know quite a few bodybuilders both gay and straight whose testes have shrunk because of the steroids they are taking which are bad for their health. So they got castrated and now they're on medically injected testosterone which is good for them. It's not as harmful as oral steroids are or some of the other shit that they're pumping into themselves.

How would you recommend people do their penectomy and castration?

In the last couple of years, my friend Mack from San Francisco ran into Dr. Crane from Brownstein & Crane and he met him, and I don't know how the two of them had the discussion, and then I had a phone interview with Dr. Crane and I explained my situation with him and now Dr. Crane is no longer doing just transgender type of procedures but [also] genital modifications.

So in a way, you educated him.

The protocol that the doctors use for transgender people is called the Harry Benjamin protocol. So for example Dr. Reed in Miami, before you go to his clinic you have to take female hormones for six months and show some development of breasts and whatnot, some feminine characteristics before he will deal with you. And why do that when you simply want to get the genitals removed?

If anything, wouldn't additional testosterone be what you'd need after castration?

Men who get castrated, they do get depressed if they don't start fairly right away on testosterone. Because the falling hormone causes hot flashes first of all, and then the loss of libido. You lose all interest in sex and everything else.

Are there any changes that occur to the body as a result?

Body changes are minimal really. If you lose your balls, you won't lose all your hair.

What about voice? Is that a myth?

Voice doesn't change, no. The larynx is a hard tissue, and the voice box and everything else is a hard tissue. But the timbre of your voice is a factor of the larynx. I sang in the college choir, I know about these things.

One thing I noticed while reading testimonials is that many people seem to try their hand at castration and penectomy but then go to the doctor only if it goes wrong. How much of this would you say is due to the medical profession's reluctance to remove healthy body parts and how much is due to people's general fear of discussing this type of thing with their doctor or therapist?

You know about the Hippocratic oath right? "First do no harm". They have to be convinced that what they are doing is in fact an improvement on your health. Which is why the surgeon is requesting a psychological evaluation. And the psychologist comes back and says "yeah, he's going to be uncomfortable where he is, he's going to be more improved, better mood, better this, better that" and so forth. So from a totality point of view, it's going to get better after he gets modified.

And let me tell you my mood has improved dramatically since going nullo. I don't miss the baggage. I don't miss the fact that I get into sex with a guy, he expects me to perform in some ways, now he doesn't have that expectation. In fact, quite a few guys find it very arousing that they don't have to have that distraction.

Are there other benefits?

Another thing is, guys who are aroused by my situation are very aroused. I've got some guys who are pursuing me a lot. And they just like this idea, because there's nothing there to be in the way. Face to face fucking is very pleasurable. And when they're doing that I actually wet their stomachs with my fluids. And this one guy, he likes to go down on me. He's a bi guy and he said he does this with his girlfriend so he goes down there and starts licking me. And he just loves that idea. He loves the idea that I have a hairy chest and what is to him a very tiny vagina that he can't fuck but he can lick and he can enjoy being the male role. I've even got a straight guy here in town who likes to fuck me because I don't have any male genitals and he doesn't feel threatened by that.

Are there any downsides?

One of the most obvious cons is I have to sit to pee, or I have to use one of these female urination devices. It's an odd funnel shaped device that you can use if there's only a men's urinal. Also, some times I get urinary tract infections. There's a shorter path to the bladder through what I've got now. So I've got to be very careful and keep it clean. I can't get guy fingering me down there because it's the inside of the urethra so it's sensitive.

Do you ever get "phantom dick" syndrome when you are reaching for it out of habit?

A lot of the nerves are bundled on the base of the penis where most of the sensation comes from. It's not along the length of penis but on the base of the penis is where most of the sensations are. And I wake up in the morning with a feeling that I have a big dick that's erect.

In your experience, what percentage of castrations are done by non-medical professionals? How about penectomies? What are the safety risks for each? Would you say one is more difficult than the other for a layman?

I would above three quarters [by non-medical professionals]. And that number is lower than say twenty years ago. There are not as many today.

Which are not as many?

The amateur cutters. There are a lot of wannabes that are successful that manage to stay below the radar of the authorities because they run into trouble because of their lack of skill. Because if you mess up there are problems there. But if you're very careful in choosing the men you work with so that you have very low risk involved, which is age (you don't do old men), you don't do very overweight men, you don't do men who smoke, who don't take drugs and anything else. If you take these fairly low-risk guys and you do it well, then there won't be any problems. Once these guys get castrated, most of them simply become very private and they don't brag about things. They sort of withdraw from pursuing anything else because they've reached their goal.

So is the the percentage of amateur cutters lower today due to more people with medical training performing castrations?

Yes. They are finding that there is a living in this if they do it among other things.

How about with penectomies? I would imagine (and hope!) there's fewer amateurs performing these.

Almost all of them are done by medical professionals. That's tricky, yeah. More tricky. It's sort of major surgery and it's been done by some amateurs. They're fairly good with their surgical techniques. I was actually at one and the guy did a fairly good job but it took a long time and it was a very involved, very slow process. I've heard of only three or four done by cutters in the past and they have left active participation in this.

When you do a penectomy you have to re-route the urethra, yes?

Yes, what I did with this is I knew where I was going with this in 1999 and I contacted my urologist in Hollywood [Florida], an old guy who was just about to retire and I talked to him very carefully and said "in the future I'm going to want the penis removed". And he said "OK, we can do a urethral relocation in the base of the penis".

So how do things like ejaculation and urination work when you've rerouted the urethra and no longer use the penis for them?

With ejaculation, just before you reach the peak, all the fluid is there at the base of the penis, and right before orgasm happens it's the urethra that acts like a rail gun and expels the semen. So when you don't use the penis, there's no force behind it. It just flows out.

What happens to the body parts after removal?

Quite a few [cutters] collect them. They preserve them, they put them in jars. One guy embedded his in plastic and now it's an ornament somewhere. This typically happens when you're in a master/slave dominant/submissive relationship and the submissive gives up his balls to his partner for keepsake. And then you get into this S&M thing where the dominant partner controls and regulates the libido of the submissive. Especially if the submissive is on say androgel where the turnaround time from full sexiness to limp dick is about on the order of a week. The reaction time for the transdermal is very fast. Whereas the injections wear off after two to three weeks. The half life of the testosterone I'm taking is eight days.

You mentioned consumption of body parts in another interview. Is that for real?

It is for real, yes. Some guys do that. Think about the Testy Festy, where they go there and every year there they have concentration of people who are into eating sheep and bull nuts and rocky mountain oysters. I know a few cutters that don't charge anything for their work, the only charge they have is that they get the nuts afterwards.

Is this something that you've tasted?

Yes, as a matter of fact they do taste a little like chicken. Actually I would have to say they taste as much like chicken as they do roast pork. But it all depends on how you cook them. If you cook them in salted butter then they might be saltier than they might otherwise be.

How do you like them cooked?

I went to a cutter's place and he was having an event where he cut a number of guys and I was assisting him there. And what I did is I cooked them up in some butter with some mushrooms. Quite good with a nice red merlot wine.

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Date: September 28th, 2022 10:08 AM
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Date: September 28th, 2022 10:09 AM
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Date: September 28th, 2022 10:35 AM
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Date: September 28th, 2022 4:53 PM
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Date: September 28th, 2022 6:36 PM
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Date: September 28th, 2022 8:41 PM
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Date: September 28th, 2022 8:41 PM
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