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is the worker okay?
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Date: November 15th, 2022 11:16 AM
Author: coiffed well-lubricated location toaster

November 9, 2022

Federal workplace safety investigation of Mapleton foundry worker's fatal fall into molten iron finds Caterpillar failed to install required fall protection

Just 9 days on the job, 39-year-old employee suffers fatal burns

MAPLETON, IL ‒ On June 2, 2022, a 39-year-old employee of a Mapleton foundry fell and was immediately incinerated in an 11-foot-deep pot of molten iron heated to more than 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit. A federal investigation determined that, if required safety guards or fall protection had been installed, the 39-year-old employee's ninth day on the job might not have been their last.

Caterpillar of Irving, Texas – one of the world's largest manufacturers of industrial vehicles and equipment – operates the foundry, which produces cast iron engine components.

Investigators with the U.S. Department of Labor's Occupational Safety and Health Administration determined the foundry routinely exposed employees to unprotected fall hazards as they worked within four feet of deep ceramic containers of super-heated molten iron. The deceased worker, a melting specialist, was removing a sample of iron from a furnace when they fell into the melting pot.

"A worker's life could have been spared if Caterpillar had made sure required safety protections were in place, a fact that only adds to this tragedy," said OSHA Regional Administrator Bill Donovan in Chicago. "Producing more than 150,000 tons each year, Caterpillar's foundry is one of the nation's largest and they should be acutely aware of industry regulations to protect workers using smelters and other dangerous equipment."

Federal safety regulations require employers to install guardrails and restraint systems, or to cover or otherwise eliminate the hazard to protect workers from falls into dangerous equipment.

OSHA cited Caterpillar Inc. for one willful violation and proposed fines of $145,027.

"Caterpillar's failure to meet its legal responsibilities to ensure the safety and health of workers leaves this worker's family, friends and co-workers to grieve needlessly," said OSHA Area Director Christine Zortman in Peoria. "We implore employers to review the agency specific regulations to protect workers from falls into equipment in industrial settings."

Caterpillar Inc. employs more than 800 workers at the foundry, who provide engine components used for construction and mining equipment, off-highway diesel and natural gas engines, industrial gas turbines and diesel-electric locomotives.

The company has 15 business days from receipt of the citations and penalties to comply, request an informal conference with OSHA's area director, or contest the findings before the independent Occupational Safety and Health Review Commission.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5235701&forum_id=2#45496226)



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Date: November 15th, 2022 11:17 AM
Author: Charismatic umber factory reset button

Post removed by moderator for violating The Law of The Land.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5235701&forum_id=2#45496230)



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Date: November 15th, 2022 11:18 AM
Author: Disrespectful locus

is the worker okay?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5235701&forum_id=2#45496234)



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Date: November 15th, 2022 11:20 AM
Author: coiffed well-lubricated location toaster

https://nypost.com/2022/06/07/worker-steven-dierkes-melted-in-half-after-falling-into-vat-of-molten-iron/amp/

A 39-year-old worker died after falling into a molten iron vat of 2,600 degrees Fahrenheit molten – leaving half of his body lying on the floor.

Steven Dierkes, of Peoria, Illinois, died instantly after he was presumably working alongside a crucible when he fell in, according to Peoria County Coroner Jamie Harwood.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5235701&forum_id=2#45496248)



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Date: November 15th, 2022 11:22 AM
Author: Disrespectful locus

so is he in a wheelchair now? 120

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5235701&forum_id=2#45496260)



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Date: November 15th, 2022 11:26 AM
Author: stimulating people who are hurt

If he died instantly, and half his body was left on the floor, was it just the legs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5235701&forum_id=2#45496287)



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Date: November 15th, 2022 11:21 AM
Author: appetizing ratface

Most red blooded litigators would pay $150k to thrill kill a prole

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Date: November 15th, 2022 11:23 AM
Author: coiffed well-lubricated location toaster

it's truly fascinating that american proles are so beaten down that things like this are just par for the course. in Europe this would be prosecuted as murder afaik

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5235701&forum_id=2#45496266)



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Date: November 15th, 2022 11:52 AM
Author: hateful galvanic brunch

this is far worse than the fate george floyd suffered and surely less deserved

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5235701&forum_id=2#45496474)



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Date: November 15th, 2022 11:55 AM
Author: coiffed well-lubricated location toaster

they paid the necessary DEI consultants to avoid the REAL liability: discrimination lawsuits

workers comp premiums on the other hand are barely visible on the pl statement

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5235701&forum_id=2#45496483)



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Date: November 15th, 2022 11:48 AM
Author: Gold legal warrant

That'll teach Caterpillar!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5235701&forum_id=2#45496454)



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Date: November 15th, 2022 11:49 AM
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Date: November 15th, 2022 11:36 PM
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Date: November 16th, 2022 12:10 AM
Author: Supple carmine box office



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Date: November 15th, 2022 11:51 AM
Author: ocher black woman community account

The dad-of-three’s death comes six months after another deadly fall at the Mapleton foundry.

In December 2021, 50-year-old Scott M. Adams also took a fatal plunge in the factory. It is believed Adams stepped off a ladder before falling through a hole in the floor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5235701&forum_id=2#45496471)



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Date: November 15th, 2022 12:58 PM
Author: Chartreuse Point Dragon

why is their factory set up like a mega man game

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5235701&forum_id=2#45496825)



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Date: November 15th, 2022 1:05 PM
Author: coiffed well-lubricated location toaster



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Date: November 15th, 2022 1:57 PM
Author: mustard useless locale

180. My favorite one-line poast in months

https://youtu.be/oKadk2--PNY

The hole in the floor was caused by a disappearing block

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Date: November 15th, 2022 6:17 PM
Author: Chartreuse Point Dragon



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Date: November 16th, 2022 12:08 AM
Author: bespoke knife boltzmann

You are poasting from a zelda dungeon

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5235701&forum_id=2#45500170)



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Date: November 16th, 2022 10:25 AM
Author: Slimy claret nibblets lay

caterpillar worker takes a fall, this sound blasts through the factory

https://youtu.be/301w1PuMIbo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5235701&forum_id=2#45501248)



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Date: November 15th, 2022 6:14 PM
Author: ocher black woman community account



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Date: November 15th, 2022 6:17 PM
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Date: November 15th, 2022 11:42 PM
Author: drab bbw

I laughed out loud

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5235701&forum_id=2#45500117)



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Date: November 16th, 2022 1:55 PM
Author: mustard useless locale

Me too. I am just imagining this factory made of 8-bit po

pixels with a side scrolling view with real people working in it and occasionally falling into lava

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Date: November 16th, 2022 5:17 PM
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Author: Slimy claret nibblets lay



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Date: November 16th, 2022 12:32 PM
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Date: November 16th, 2022 5:11 PM
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Date: November 16th, 2022 5:18 PM
Author: Yapping mind-boggling abode



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Date: November 17th, 2022 12:34 PM
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Date: November 18th, 2022 3:41 PM
Author: Cordovan vigorous menage

It's a good question. This shouldn't happen in America. Guys like this are a dying breed, real Americans who will do real work with molten metal, not some lazy fag trying to get paid to click a mouse.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5235701&forum_id=2#45513399)



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Date: December 22nd, 2022 7:39 AM
Author: ocher black woman community account



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Date: February 23rd, 2023 6:03 PM
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Date: March 29th, 2023 11:34 PM
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Date: March 29th, 2023 11:36 PM
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Date: March 29th, 2023 11:39 PM
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Date: March 29th, 2023 11:39 PM
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Date: July 14th, 2023 11:42 AM
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Date: April 18th, 2024 12:48 AM
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Date: April 18th, 2024 12:23 PM
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Date: April 18th, 2024 6:07 PM
Author: mustard useless locale

Still love this poast. 190

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Date: April 18th, 2024 6:33 PM
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Date: November 15th, 2022 11:53 AM
Author: Crawly rigpig

*tuna turned lobbyist winks at Caterpillar lead counsel*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5235701&forum_id=2#45496475)



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Date: November 15th, 2022 6:22 PM
Author: razzmatazz amber idiot base

im gonna go out on a limb, obviously not over a molten steel lava pit, and say he was a "he" and not a "they" as indicated in the opening paragraph.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5235701&forum_id=2#45498344)



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Date: November 15th, 2022 11:43 PM
Author: drab bbw

All companies do this shit now. Who are we to presume their gender identity?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5235701&forum_id=2#45500122)



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Date: November 15th, 2022 11:45 PM
Author: hairraiser travel guidebook

"The deceased worker, a melting specialist." Wouldn't have thought that's what they meant by melting specialist.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5235701&forum_id=2#45500125)



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Date: November 16th, 2022 12:02 AM
Author: drab bbw



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Date: November 16th, 2022 10:22 AM
Author: Slimy claret nibblets lay



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Date: November 16th, 2022 1:52 PM
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Date: November 16th, 2022 5:19 PM
Author: Yapping mind-boggling abode

He died doing what he loved.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5235701&forum_id=2#45503520)



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Date: November 18th, 2022 3:21 PM
Author: hairraiser travel guidebook



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Date: April 18th, 2024 6:09 PM
Author: Crawly rigpig



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Date: November 16th, 2022 12:15 AM
Author: Cordovan vigorous menage

"The deceased worker, a melting specialist, was removing a sample of iron from a furnace when they fell into the melting pot.".

I guess "they" is the default now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5235701&forum_id=2#45500181)



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Date: November 16th, 2022 12:18 AM
Author: Coral volcanic crater marketing idea

So hot it melted his pronouns

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5235701&forum_id=2#45500191)



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Date: November 16th, 2022 10:19 AM
Author: Contagious Bright Chapel

yeah OSHA is always proudly announcing $25K fines for shit like amputations, it's comical. press release and everything

strangely, though, small business owners are terrified of OSHA. I found this out a long time ago. If you tell them "some plaintiff's lawyer might sue you" the attitude is "He wouldn't dare! bring it on!" but if you tell them OSHA/DOL/IRS might audit them, they crumple like wet cardboard and do what you say

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Date: November 16th, 2022 1:53 PM
Author: hairraiser travel guidebook



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Date: November 16th, 2022 5:08 PM
Author: ocher black woman community account

Ljl

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Date: January 2nd, 2023 2:20 AM
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Date: March 30th, 2023 12:03 AM
Author: Cordovan vigorous menage

Do they have to throw out the molten iron after this or is it not significantly affected by having half a guy fall into the vat? It would be 180 if his spirit could live on through some heavy machinery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5235701&forum_id=2#46116712)



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Date: April 18th, 2024 1:14 PM
Author: Sick histrionic kitchen indirect expression

LJL there is literally nothing that withstands 2000degC

of course they went on to use the molten iron

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Date: April 18th, 2024 6:10 PM
Author: Crawly rigpig

not even the atoms and molecules that made up the dude’s torso?

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Date: April 18th, 2024 3:23 PM
Author: chrome thirsty party of the first part place of business

this is an interesting view of what constitutes 180

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Date: April 18th, 2024 6:04 PM
Author: ocher black woman community account



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