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OldHLSDude, describe your sons' recent delusions.

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Emerald Unholy Idiot
  11/19/22
Son #2 is on meds, so he has been pretty non-delusional. Whe...
crimson beady-eyed stead
  11/19/22
180. I want to hear more on why Son #1 is an Elizabeth Holm...
at-the-ready comical space deer antler
  11/19/22
He thinks she is hot and is sexually attracted to her. He do...
crimson beady-eyed stead
  11/19/22
I also think that Elizabeth Holmes is a sociopath. Very dang...
at-the-ready comical space deer antler
  11/19/22
Agree. But she looks hot on TV. I have known a number of peo...
crimson beady-eyed stead
  11/19/22
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Deranged theater partner
  11/23/22
Can you describe his fraudulent schemes? In detail? I&rsqu...
Adventurous garrison nowag
  11/25/22
He raised a lot of money in venture capital from a number of...
crimson beady-eyed stead
  11/25/22
Have you ever looked into his "early life"?
Cream embarrassed to the bone masturbator
  11/25/22
Yes. I know a lot of stuff.
crimson beady-eyed stead
  11/25/22
She may be available.
mind-boggling bonkers church building
  11/19/22
He really has a thing for her.
crimson beady-eyed stead
  11/19/22
We all do.
mind-boggling bonkers church building
  11/19/22
How did he meet this hot chick? Do they have sex?
Heady national mexican
  11/19/22
Not quite sure which one this is. I think it's someone he me...
crimson beady-eyed stead
  11/19/22
classic persecutory delusions in both! this can be treated w...
Emerald Unholy Idiot
  11/19/22
Yes, I know this is your shtick.
crimson beady-eyed stead
  11/19/22
ah yes, still in denial & will die in denial
Emerald Unholy Idiot
  11/19/22
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cracking sooty circlehead crackhouse
  11/19/22
Really dumb. Some people are just genetically nuts. No the...
Adventurous garrison nowag
  11/19/22
the modern model is that while some people are genetically s...
Emerald Unholy Idiot
  11/19/22
No there is no model that says emotional abuse from family m...
Adventurous garrison nowag
  11/19/22
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mind-boggling bonkers church building
  11/19/22
i literally just quoted a study suggesting that childhood em...
Emerald Unholy Idiot
  11/19/22
Are you dumb as fuck? There’s also a link between n...
Adventurous garrison nowag
  11/19/22
are you autistic?
Emerald Unholy Idiot
  11/19/22
nah just someone who can understand how basic logical rules ...
Adventurous garrison nowag
  11/19/22
all i did was quote a peer-reviewed article and form a reaso...
Emerald Unholy Idiot
  11/19/22
Your opinion was not reasonable, as it was based on a comple...
Adventurous garrison nowag
  11/19/22
your retarded
Emerald Unholy Idiot
  11/19/22
My IQ is a few standard deviations above your IQ
Adventurous garrison nowag
  11/24/22
To be fair, ...and you don't have either one of them po...
zombie-like filthy school cafeteria milk
  11/19/22
They both poast as pumos iirc
Cream embarrassed to the bone masturbator
  11/25/22
this is all normal. could you describe their delusions?
Hateful ticket booth tattoo
  11/19/22
Things are not bad at the moment, actually. We have come a l...
crimson beady-eyed stead
  11/19/22
actual hebrew or pretend hebrew?
Deranged theater partner
  11/23/22
I don't know, but it sounded real. So did the French.
crimson beady-eyed stead
  11/23/22
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mind-boggling bonkers church building
  11/19/22
it's terrible being the male child of a successful man
180 black office candlestick maker
  11/19/22
I’m sure that’s true.
crimson beady-eyed stead
  11/19/22
i have similar concern about grocery tampering
Racy lemon dysfunction
  11/19/22
OldHLSDude, are you aware of the status of pipeline drugs fo...
mind-boggling bonkers church building
  11/20/22
OldHLSDude kicked his sons out of his house and more or less...
Emerald Unholy Idiot
  11/20/22
They are not abandoned and you are full of shit.
crimson beady-eyed stead
  11/20/22
Don’t let him bug you.
Adventurous garrison nowag
  11/25/22
Thanks for the links. #1 son insists nothing is wrong and ma...
crimson beady-eyed stead
  11/20/22
Heartbreaking about first son. A cousin of mine is currently...
mind-boggling bonkers church building
  11/24/22


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Date: November 19th, 2022 11:26 AM
Author: Emerald Unholy Idiot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45516825)



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Date: November 19th, 2022 11:38 AM
Author: crimson beady-eyed stead

Son #2 is on meds, so he has been pretty non-delusional. When he starts slipping he becomes angry because he thinks the neighbor with a white van is up to something nefarious that seems to involve kinky sex and drug dealing, though it might be true. He also will think that something is wrong with the food the grocery store delivered and start throwing it out. Usually this is our clue to call his case manager. Local mental health services have improved recently.

Son #1 thinks that a cabal of secret agents are harassing him. They color coordinate the cars they drive and follow him around and congregate at his house. He also thinks he gets police escorts (that is possible, as they know him well and vice versa). He is annoyed that Elizabeth Holmes got such a stiff sentence when other scumbags are unmolested by legal system. I do not think this is a delusion. He demanded I call someone to get immediate review of her case by the Supreme Court. He sometimes attributes magical powers to me.

He has felt more secure since I put security cameras in his house, but he will not monitor them and frequently turns them off or points them toward the wall. I do the monitoring and report to him when something strange happens. The other day a hot girl came to his back door and dropped off something. She was pretty impressive. I don't know how a 50 year old mentally ill guy attracts all this attention from young women. Possibly it is because he is 6'6".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45516863)



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Date: November 19th, 2022 11:41 AM
Author: at-the-ready comical space deer antler

180.

I want to hear more on why Son #1 is an Elizabeth Holmes supporter? I wanted to see her fry. I want all of those people to fry. We live in a made-up world where if you just boast and make shit up somehow you can "maek it." That's hard for all of us losers out there who can't scumbag our way to the top of the hill.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45516874)



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Date: November 19th, 2022 11:43 AM
Author: crimson beady-eyed stead

He thinks she is hot and is sexually attracted to her. He doesn't care about her fraud; he just wants to jump her bones.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45516878)



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Date: November 19th, 2022 11:45 AM
Author: at-the-ready comical space deer antler

I also think that Elizabeth Holmes is a sociopath. Very dangerous. A lengthy custodial sentence for her is definitely needed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45516884)



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Date: November 19th, 2022 11:54 AM
Author: crimson beady-eyed stead

Agree. But she looks hot on TV. I have known a number of people like this. I have an ex brother-in-law (East Indian) who did 8 years of a 15 year + sentence for financial fraud. He is a complete sociopath. He also got a year in Fed prison for passport fraud, but got himself out on compassionate release (Covid risk) after 6 months. I have a ton of stories about that, as he tried to involve me in his fraud and I was subpoenaed as a witness, but did not have to testify. He is out now and busily constructing yet more frauds while he is on probation. I think Si Valley encourages this kind of stuff. Wild ideas sometimes make it and it causes some investors to be easy pickings for talented con people. My brother-in-law was very slick. He actually had a Ph.d and was smooth. His businesses always looked shady to me, and I resisted his several attempts to pull me in. But I guess he was small time, as he only stole about $30M.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45516921)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 2:13 AM
Author: Deranged theater partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45533600)



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Date: November 25th, 2022 12:06 AM
Author: Adventurous garrison nowag

Can you describe his fraudulent schemes? In detail? I’m always curious about how people create money-making frauds. Could he have gotten away with it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45541895)



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Date: November 25th, 2022 12:45 AM
Author: crimson beady-eyed stead

He raised a lot of money in venture capital from a number of institutional and individual investors. He invested very little of the money, but spent a lot of it on luxury homes, cars, and an airplane.

In the course of the fraud he photoshopped business magazine articles about other people and inserted his own picture and name, handing out the modified copies to potential investors who never thought to go look up the real thing.

He made up a fictitious limited partnership then borrowed on it from a bank, which never looked beyond the partnership documents when making the loan.

He also Ponzied along the way, raising more than one fund and using later raises to partly pay off earlier investors.

His business ideas never made any sense to me, but apparently he was very convincing to a lot of people. One technique he used was to get famous people on his boards and to get them to give testimonials for him, including former heads of state. I have no idea how he did that. He even had me listed on his web site as an advisor to one of his funds, which I certainly was not, and I made him remove my name. Unknown to me he listed an organization with which I was affiliated as a major investor, with me as the contact, in the fictitious LP he borrowed against. That's why I was contacted by the prosecutor and asked to testify. Another thing at which he was very skilled was flooding the media with great sounding but essentially bogus press releases. Once they get picked up and reprinted, you can reference them and it becomes a loop.

He was caught by investors several times, but always managed to make them whole by paying them back with money from later funds. He was trying to do yet another Ponzi raise with a state government, but some local journalists got on to him which blew up the deal and caused his string or refinancings to run out. One very pissed off person kicked off the criminal charges.

I don't know how much he raised in total, given that it was Ponzi in part, but the last fund which crashed and brought him down was somewhere around $20M. The thing that was amazing to me was that none of the blue chip institutional investors he screwed ever came after him. It took an aggrieved individual who lost $2M of his personal money.

Ironically, after he got out of jail, someone discovered that one of the few investments he actually made had paid off and there was over $60M worth of stock sitting in an unclaimed funds account. There was litigation over who was going to get the money, but I never was able to find out how that was resolved. Many of the defrauded parties filed claims against the state that held the unclaimed stock, but the state refused to disburse it to them without an adjudication. Never found the outcome. He had a novel defense: he had no intent to steal, but always intended to return the money. Didn't work.

There's a lot more detail in all the news articles that came out about this. There were many instances of forged documents, etc., etc.

If anyone had done serious due diligence on him this never would have happened. It's pretty amazing, or maybe it's just normal, i.e., Theranos, et al.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45541988)



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Date: November 25th, 2022 1:01 AM
Author: Cream embarrassed to the bone masturbator

Have you ever looked into his "early life"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45542051)



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Date: November 25th, 2022 1:06 AM
Author: crimson beady-eyed stead

Yes. I know a lot of stuff.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45542100)



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Date: November 19th, 2022 12:15 PM
Author: mind-boggling bonkers church building

She may be available.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45517011)



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Date: November 19th, 2022 12:28 PM
Author: crimson beady-eyed stead

He really has a thing for her.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45517075)



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Date: November 19th, 2022 12:31 PM
Author: mind-boggling bonkers church building

We all do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45517086)



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Date: November 19th, 2022 11:45 AM
Author: Heady national mexican

How did he meet this hot chick? Do they have sex?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45516883)



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Date: November 19th, 2022 11:56 AM
Author: crimson beady-eyed stead

Not quite sure which one this is. I think it's someone he met randomly when she was jail bait. I doubt if they are having sex, but I really don't know. She must be about 19 or 20 now. Thin with very long blonde hair and the posture and gait of a trained model or dancer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45516936)



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Date: November 19th, 2022 11:45 AM
Author: Emerald Unholy Idiot

classic persecutory delusions in both! this can be treated with minimal medication if there's social support and therapy.

here's a fun quote for you:

"Those with persecutory delusions reported significantly higher levels of emotional abuse and there was a trend towards higher levels of emotional neglect. No differences emerged on total trauma score, physical abuse, physical neglect and sexual abuse. The study suggests that over and above a general association between childhood trauma and positive symptoms of psychosis, there may exist a specific link between persecutory delusions and childhood emotional abuse."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45516885)



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Date: November 19th, 2022 11:54 AM
Author: crimson beady-eyed stead

Yes, I know this is your shtick.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45516925)



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Date: November 19th, 2022 12:07 PM
Author: Emerald Unholy Idiot

ah yes, still in denial & will die in denial

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45516965)



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Date: November 19th, 2022 12:33 PM
Author: cracking sooty circlehead crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45517099)



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Date: November 19th, 2022 12:13 PM
Author: Adventurous garrison nowag

Really dumb. Some people are just genetically nuts. No therapy or social support can solve it for them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45517005)



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Date: November 19th, 2022 12:35 PM
Author: Emerald Unholy Idiot

the modern model is that while some people are genetically susceptible to developing mental illness, there have to be environmental stressors that trigger and sustain the illness. without these stressors the illness never emerges.

in OldHLSDude's case, it seems like his pathetic prestige whoring and business ventures led him to neglect his sons, which triggered the schizophrenia

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45517105)



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Date: November 19th, 2022 12:43 PM
Author: Adventurous garrison nowag

No there is no model that says emotional abuse from family members are necessary triggers to any sort of delusions. Plenty of people with perfectly fine families end up as schizos. You yourself appear schizophrenic. Seek help.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45517154)



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Date: November 19th, 2022 12:43 PM
Author: mind-boggling bonkers church building



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45517156)



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Date: November 19th, 2022 12:46 PM
Author: Emerald Unholy Idiot

i literally just quoted a study suggesting that childhood emotional abuse can trigger delusions, i'm not making this up

keep defending this dumb failure of a father

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45517166)



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Date: November 19th, 2022 1:07 PM
Author: Adventurous garrison nowag

Are you dumb as fuck?

There’s also a link between not wearing a seat belt and dying in car accidents. But that doesn’t mean all car accident deaths are caused by not wearing a seat belt.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45517313)



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Date: November 19th, 2022 1:17 PM
Author: Emerald Unholy Idiot

are you autistic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45517366)



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Date: November 19th, 2022 1:34 PM
Author: Adventurous garrison nowag

nah just someone who can understand how basic logical rules work unlike your retarded schizo ass. Clearly you blame your parents for your own mental health maladies which is why you impose them on OldHLSDude.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45517447)



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Date: November 19th, 2022 2:31 PM
Author: Emerald Unholy Idiot

all i did was quote a peer-reviewed article and form a reasonable opinion based on its conclusions. you, on the other hand, have resorted to wild speculation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45517632)



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Date: November 19th, 2022 3:21 PM
Author: Adventurous garrison nowag

Your opinion was not reasonable, as it was based on a complete misinterpretation of the peer-reviewed article. I have drawn your attention to that misrepresentation which you just ignore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45517833)



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Date: November 19th, 2022 3:26 PM
Author: Emerald Unholy Idiot

your retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45517858)



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Date: November 24th, 2022 1:06 AM
Author: Adventurous garrison nowag

My IQ is a few standard deviations above your IQ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45538535)



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Date: November 19th, 2022 1:37 PM
Author: zombie-like filthy school cafeteria milk

To be fair,

...and you don't have either one of them poasting?

Fuck you, Boomer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45517454)



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Date: November 25th, 2022 12:13 AM
Author: Cream embarrassed to the bone masturbator

They both poast as pumos iirc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45541904)



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Date: November 19th, 2022 11:41 AM
Author: Hateful ticket booth tattoo

this is all normal. could you describe their delusions?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45516870)



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Date: November 19th, 2022 11:44 AM
Author: crimson beady-eyed stead

Things are not bad at the moment, actually. We have come a long way from being possessed by the Lion King of Judah and speaking in Hebrew and French while enjoying direct conversations with God.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45516880)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 2:15 AM
Author: Deranged theater partner

actual hebrew or pretend hebrew?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45533604)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 10:15 AM
Author: crimson beady-eyed stead

I don't know, but it sounded real. So did the French.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45534491)



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Date: November 19th, 2022 12:15 PM
Author: mind-boggling bonkers church building



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45517013)



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Date: November 19th, 2022 4:56 PM
Author: 180 black office candlestick maker

it's terrible being the male child of a successful man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45518286)



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Date: November 19th, 2022 5:13 PM
Author: crimson beady-eyed stead

I’m sure that’s true.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45518367)



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Date: November 19th, 2022 5:01 PM
Author: Racy lemon dysfunction

i have similar concern about grocery tampering

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45518318)



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Date: November 20th, 2022 7:48 AM
Author: mind-boggling bonkers church building

OldHLSDude, are you aware of the status of pipeline drugs for schizophrenia? Tar1 Agonists seem to demonstrate great promise. Good-enough efficacy, no extrapyramidal symptoms or weight gain or metabolic effects, no effect on prolactin. IOW, your kids might actually comply with treatment.

E.g.,

https://www.psychiatrist.com/jcp/schizophrenia/emerging-treatments-in-schizophrenia/

https://www.clinicaltrialsarena.com/analysis/schizophrenia-treatments/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34947997/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulotaront#Research

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8762745/

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41537-021-00190-z

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45520190)



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Date: November 20th, 2022 11:24 AM
Author: Emerald Unholy Idiot

OldHLSDude kicked his sons out of his house and more or less abandoned them decades ago (one turned into a huge hoarder living in filth). if it's not something prestigious or not business related, OldHLSDude just isn't interested

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45520610)



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Date: November 20th, 2022 10:10 PM
Author: crimson beady-eyed stead

They are not abandoned and you are full of shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45523173)



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Date: November 25th, 2022 12:07 AM
Author: Adventurous garrison nowag

Don’t let him bug you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45541896)



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Date: November 20th, 2022 10:10 PM
Author: crimson beady-eyed stead

Thanks for the links. #1 son insists nothing is wrong and managed to defeat court ordered medication with his pro se challenge. He still has a case pending in appeals court, but it's pretty much moot now as he is no longer hospitalized. #2 son is probably on meds and doing better, but has substantial compliance issues. I will dig into what you sent in more detail. Thanks again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45523166)



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Date: November 24th, 2022 9:07 AM
Author: mind-boggling bonkers church building

Heartbreaking about first son. A cousin of mine is currently going through similar. It is frustrating not being able to help; it must be tough going through as a father. Good to hear about #2, & here's hoping treatments continue to improve.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5238353&forum_id=2#45538974)