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Best guitar setup to gift a kid who's just starting out?

9th grade and will be learning on youtube. Budget $500-750 f...
bossy contagious knife round eye
  11/25/22
you can do it for under $150...
fragrant cumskin location
  11/25/22
Someone here got one of these that guitar center makes just ...
bossy contagious knife round eye
  11/25/22
Think it was doodikoff but can't find the thread on it
bossy contagious knife round eye
  11/25/22
Yeah that was me. Might need a little setup but it's a legi...
Indigo Motley Lodge
  11/25/22
Sweet. I got him the black flametop one https://www.guitar...
bossy contagious knife round eye
  11/25/22
180. Now you have plenty of money for an amp. I'd pers...
Indigo Motley Lodge
  11/26/22
Should've gotten the blue one
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glittery electric furnace
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For his budget? I'm absolutely right
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glittery electric furnace
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its a lot more cost effective than a real tube amp, plus it ...
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glittery electric furnace
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a Fender Blues Jr is like $800 alone, dude. that is out of O...
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glittery electric furnace
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See, a couple things. First of all, a 13yo first time gu...
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brother you are a purist, no harm in that. And yes POD's...
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Dude you are better than this. Obviously a lot of these arti...
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glittery electric furnace
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I mean.... ok? they use them, point blank.
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these guys are still some of the biggest names in "guit...
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glittery electric furnace
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lets go back to our original argument - are these good for k...
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Guitars that cheap go out of tune every 5 minutes and amps t...
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Turquoise selfie garrison
  11/26/22
sure you do champ
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Turquoise selfie garrison
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You have obviously never played a guitar in your life
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"I am classically trained, like my father before me.&qu...
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180
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yamaha guitar kit. easy to sell when he inevitably loses in...
rambunctious kitty cat
  11/25/22
just get this squier strat bundle. if he doesn't quit in the...
hairraiser wine locus dopamine
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My cousin got a squier and it made him want to quit.
bossy contagious knife round eye
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your cousin sounds like he just sucks at playing. look up de...
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dashing circlehead gas station
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The quilter is interesting. Would it be too complicated comp...
bossy contagious knife round eye
  11/25/22
no its not complicated at all to dial in a good tone. just h...
dashing circlehead gas station
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Ty
bossy contagious knife round eye
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do NOT buy a quilter for a kid just starting out. This guy ...
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No, skin flute
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Or the Seagull S6
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SG Special and an orange mini-amp
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Date: November 25th, 2022 9:29 PM
Author: bossy contagious knife round eye

9th grade and will be learning on youtube. Budget $500-750 for full setup. I'm leaning toward electric + amp. Suggestions?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45544912)



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Date: November 25th, 2022 9:31 PM
Author: fragrant cumskin location

you can do it for under $150...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45544918)



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Date: November 25th, 2022 9:36 PM
Author: bossy contagious knife round eye

Someone here got one of these that guitar center makes just for them. $250. . Wonder if it's any good

https://www.guitarcenter.com/Mitchell/MS400-Modern-Single-Cutaway-Electric-Guitar-Black-1500000010447.gc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45544931)



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Date: November 25th, 2022 9:56 PM
Author: bossy contagious knife round eye

Think it was doodikoff but can't find the thread on it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45544984)



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Date: November 25th, 2022 10:17 PM
Author: Indigo Motley Lodge

Yeah that was me. Might need a little setup but it's a legit budget guitar

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45545050)



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Date: November 25th, 2022 10:49 PM
Author: bossy contagious knife round eye

Sweet. I got him the black flametop one

https://www.guitarcenter.com/Mitchell/MS450-Modern-Single-Cutaway-Electric-Guitar-Flame-Black-1500000281238.gc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45545153)



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Date: November 26th, 2022 1:29 AM
Author: Indigo Motley Lodge

180.

Now you have plenty of money for an amp. I'd personally recommend a line 6 pod go. Has helix sounds but just limited in amount of effects you can use

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45545554)



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Date: November 26th, 2022 7:30 PM
Author: lascivious piazza

Should've gotten the blue one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45548222)



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Date: November 26th, 2022 8:44 PM
Author: glittery electric furnace



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Date: November 27th, 2022 12:28 AM
Author: Indigo Motley Lodge

For his budget? I'm absolutely right

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45549069)



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Date: November 27th, 2022 12:43 AM
Author: glittery electric furnace



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Date: November 28th, 2022 9:36 AM
Author: Indigo Motley Lodge

its a lot more cost effective than a real tube amp, plus it has insane amounts of effects. IMO all of that shit makes it a lot more fun than having one "pure" tube tone. And a new tube amp is not in the OP's budget

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45553230)



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Date: November 28th, 2022 10:07 AM
Author: glittery electric furnace



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Date: November 28th, 2022 1:04 PM
Author: Indigo Motley Lodge

a Fender Blues Jr is like $800 alone, dude. that is out of OP's budget and he doesn't even have a guitar. And I would venture that a POD Go can produce tones on par with the Blues Jr, which is a low end tub amp. in addition to hundreds of fun effects that will keep a kid's attention

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45554296)



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Date: November 28th, 2022 1:26 PM
Author: glittery electric furnace



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Date: November 28th, 2022 1:45 PM
Author: Indigo Motley Lodge

See, a couple things.

First of all, a 13yo first time guitar player is not going to know the difference between a legit "tube purist" amp and a modern modeler. You could play them side by side and they probably wouldn't be able to tell more than a 5-10% difference if they can hear it at all.

Budget is a consideration, and although you linked to a good deal on reverb, good luck with a parent or 13yo finding that specific deal.

Also, modelers do not sound like the old PODs anymore, they are much better. The Pod Go uses Helix amps. My bro in law got a Pod Go (at my recommendation) and he is having a blast with it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45554514)



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Date: November 28th, 2022 2:12 PM
Author: glittery electric furnace



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Date: November 28th, 2022 2:47 PM
Author: Indigo Motley Lodge

brother you are a purist, no harm in that.

And yes POD's are "fun" and really easy to dial in whatever tone you want.

Lots of professional artists use Helix/Axe/Quad Cortex/Kemper, not sure what you mean brother.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45554858)



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Date: November 28th, 2022 2:52 PM
Author: glittery electric furnace



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Date: November 28th, 2022 3:48 PM
Author: Indigo Motley Lodge

Dude you are better than this. Obviously a lot of these artists use amps in addition to their modelers, but the websites for each of these have dozens of well known examples (including guitar gods like Vai and Satch)

Quad Cortex, includes Dave Mustaine and other dude from Megadeth (who exclusively uses QC), Tim Henson from Polyphia, etc

https://equipboard.com/items/neural-dsp-quad-cortex

https://neuraldsp.com/artists

Fractal Axe FX – John Mayer, Edge, Steve Vai, James Hetfield, John Petrucci, Def Leppard, Aerosmith, Joe Satriani

https://www.fractalaudio.com/artists/

Kemper – Skolnick, Paul Gilbert, guy from Less Than Jake, etc

https://www.kemper-amps.com/artist-gallery

Line 6 Helix – Billy Sheehan, Butch Walker, Skolnick, Gary Holt, etc

https://line6.com/artists/



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45555116)



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Date: November 28th, 2022 4:26 PM
Author: glittery electric furnace



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Date: November 28th, 2022 4:28 PM
Author: Indigo Motley Lodge

I mean.... ok? they use them, point blank.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45555240)



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Date: November 28th, 2022 4:30 PM
Author: glittery electric furnace



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Date: November 28th, 2022 4:38 PM
Author: Indigo Motley Lodge

these guys are still some of the biggest names in "guitar" these days - Vai, Satch, etc? There aren't really many "guitar gods" these days because shredder music isn't popular anymore.

These guys still think it is good enough to use as their tone to live audiences, doesn't really matter if the original "classic recording" used a QC or a real Marshall - in a busy mix its very difficult to tell the amp/modeler, and only a small fraction of people are able to do this.

Even the biggest current "guitar genres," which are country and worship, tons of those guys use Kempers and Helix, tons. I know a guy who used to be GuitarPlayer1 for a huge country act (think Kenny Chesney, etc), and he straight up only takes a Kemper on the road, and says lots of his Nashville session bros use them as well.

Signed, Guy who plays on a Helix and a real Deluxe Reverb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45555274)



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Date: November 28th, 2022 4:47 PM
Author: glittery electric furnace



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Date: November 28th, 2022 4:55 PM
Author: Indigo Motley Lodge

lets go back to our original argument - are these good for kids with a limited budget to learn on or not. Yes, they absolutely are fine and yes they do sound pretty decent these days. Like zero kids these days will be able to tell a quad cortex from a real tube amp in a mix - none and many pro audio and guitar dudes wouldn't be able to tell either unless its some huge audio focus on the particular guitar tone that is being play without other instruments.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45555366)



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Date: November 28th, 2022 5:08 PM
Author: glittery electric furnace



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Date: November 25th, 2022 10:51 PM
Author: crawly chartreuse genital piercing

poor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45545156)



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Date: November 25th, 2022 10:52 PM
Author: Emerald Sanctuary Multi-billionaire

Guitars that cheap go out of tune every 5 minutes and amps that cheap have electronics that break if you breathe on them wrong

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45545158)



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Date: November 26th, 2022 1:55 AM
Author: Turquoise selfie garrison



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Date: November 26th, 2022 2:18 AM
Author: painfully honest brethren brunch

sure you do champ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45545649)



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Date: November 26th, 2022 10:36 AM
Author: Turquoise selfie garrison



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Date: November 26th, 2022 10:49 AM
Author: cowardly house-broken principal's office

You have obviously never played a guitar in your life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45546219)



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Date: November 26th, 2022 12:11 PM
Author: Turquoise selfie garrison



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Date: November 26th, 2022 12:19 PM
Author: unhinged chrome death wish new version

"I am classically trained, like my father before me."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45546612)



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Date: November 26th, 2022 7:13 PM
Author: Maize federal casino

180

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Date: November 28th, 2022 10:09 AM
Author: clear address shitlib

This is cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45553387)



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Date: November 25th, 2022 9:39 PM
Author: rambunctious kitty cat

yamaha guitar kit.

easy to sell when he inevitably loses interest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45544936)



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Date: November 25th, 2022 9:41 PM
Author: hairraiser wine locus dopamine

just get this squier strat bundle. if he doesn't quit in the next 6 months and actually makes some decent progress, then get him a better guitar and amp.

https://www.guitarcenter.com/Squier/Stratocaster-Electric-Guitar-Pack-with-Fender-Frontman-10G-Amp-Black-1500000221873.gc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45544946)



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Date: November 25th, 2022 9:54 PM
Author: bossy contagious knife round eye

My cousin got a squier and it made him want to quit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45544978)



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Date: November 25th, 2022 9:58 PM
Author: hairraiser wine locus dopamine

your cousin sounds like he just sucks at playing. look up demo vids of the squier strat, good players can make cheap guitars sound great.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45544997)



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Date: November 25th, 2022 10:56 PM
Author: bossy contagious knife round eye

Yeah he sucks he's retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45545166)



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Date: November 25th, 2022 10:20 PM
Author: angry theatre



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Date: November 25th, 2022 9:46 PM
Author: dashing circlehead gas station

epiphone cornet + quilter super block(either one depending on preferences) comes in right under 750. legit gear thats pretty cool not total crap you grow out of

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45544956)



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Date: November 25th, 2022 9:52 PM
Author: bossy contagious knife round eye

The quilter is interesting. Would it be too complicated compared to guitar and a little practice amp like this with a tuner and clean/dirty.

https://www.guitarcenter.com/Orange-Amplifiers/Crush-20RT-20W-1x8-Guitar-Combo-Amp-Orange-1414265089432.gc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45544973)



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Date: November 25th, 2022 10:11 PM
Author: dashing circlehead gas station

no its not complicated at all to dial in a good tone. just has more voicings to choose from like ac30 normal and top boost and marshall on the UK and three different fenders on the US.

only drawback is the lack of channel switching if youre trying to play through entire songs that do that. you can always run a boost or overdrive in front of it in the future though.

that orange is probably a good option for beginners. the quilter otoh is good for a beginner but also a legit player can take and play a show with it either going direct into the board or through a mic'd cab

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45545033)



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Date: November 25th, 2022 10:40 PM
Author: bossy contagious knife round eye

Ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45545130)



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Date: November 26th, 2022 10:53 AM
Author: aphrodisiac ceo theater stage

do NOT buy a quilter for a kid just starting out. This guy is like "it's easy to sound just like an AC-30 with top boost!" this kid doesn't know what an AC-30 is, or what top boost is, or what any of these dials mean

he needs an amp with two sounds: clean and distorted. That is, any amp. Whatever will do, I would pick one of these but really almost anything is fine. It's more important that he gets a well set up, comfortable guitar that he thinks looks cool.

https://www.fender.com/en-US/guitar-amplifiers/contemporary-digital/champion-20/2330200000.html

https://www.fender.com/en-US/guitar-amplifiers/contemporary-digital/champion-40/2330300000.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45546228)



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Date: November 26th, 2022 10:58 AM
Author: Nubile racy newt parlor

It should have reverb too - I’m a pretty 180 guitarist today and one of the things that kept me from quitting in those first few months getting over the initial learning curve at age 12 was how cool I thought the reverb on my Fender Champion 110 cranked to 10 sounded, even if my playing was a mess

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45546242)



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Date: November 26th, 2022 12:19 PM
Author: dashing circlehead gas station

wtf? why the hell is it a bad thing to have three different choices that all sound great? its an incredibly simple amp. doesnt matter at all if the kid has no idea what amps theyre supposed to emulate. could be an interesting thing for him to learn about though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45546609)



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Date: November 25th, 2022 9:57 PM
Author: Anal meetinghouse

Les Paul Custom + Marshall JCM 800

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Date: November 26th, 2022 1:42 AM
Author: Submissive domesticated state



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Date: November 25th, 2022 10:00 PM
Author: soul-stirring preventive strike station

My kid wanted to get a set up from a friend who was two years older than him and going back to Korea. The friend offered to sell his fender amp to my kid for $40. My kids friends mother heard about this and insisted the friend give it to my kid for free. Lol. The poor kid about lost his mind. This was a couple years ago. 6th graders are hilarious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45545004)



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Date: November 26th, 2022 1:43 AM
Author: smoky associate

Guitar is the gayest instrument out there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45545591)



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Date: November 26th, 2022 11:00 AM
Author: angry theatre

No, skin flute

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Date: November 26th, 2022 2:16 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle tripping home

I started out electric but in retrospect if you want him to be good buy him a 750 dollar acoustic, I really like Alvarez in that price range

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45545648)



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Date: November 26th, 2022 11:00 AM
Author: angry theatre

Or the Seagull S6

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45546253)



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Date: November 26th, 2022 6:59 AM
Author: Lilac indian lodge

What do kids even want to play on guitar these days? Serious q

I have messed around on some of the squier starter pack guitars and they are ok. When I used to be into playing Ibanez had some decently cheap starter electric guitars. My big advice is to have someone at the local music shop lower the action on the strings. You will compromise sound quality of course but the frustrating thing for a starter is not being able to play anything - if you lower the action, you can more quickly learn to play barre chords which opens up a lot of songs. Will be able to see results more quickly than working through the Mel Bay songbooks or whatever .

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45545800)



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Date: November 26th, 2022 11:01 AM
Author: Nubile racy newt parlor

Lol those Mel Bay books are such shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45546255)



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Date: November 26th, 2022 7:28 AM
Author: Aromatic Bbw

You need to start with what style of music he likes then what STYLE/SHAPE guitar he would like, then go for a budget option based on that. Whether he actually takes the time to learn will highly depend on how cool he thinks the instrument looks and feels. You can say as an adult that shouldn't matter but that is how a boy who is just learning will think.

If he's a budding metalhead for instance, you wouldn't want to get him an acoustic or even a Squire (which are great options generally and should be your default), but maybe something like an Epiphone V, SG or LP (like this https://www.epiphone.com/en-US/Electric-Guitar/EPIJW6920/Ebony, although it is a bit expensive). Again, this is just a cosmetic preference, as his ears will NOT be advanced enough (for years) to be able to tell the difference between a metal song played on a Squier Strat as compared to Epiphone V. But if he's really into Pantera, I can tell you that he's much more likely to continue learning the instrument if you give him an Epiphone V than some acoustic that his favorite bands don't even use in their songs.

If your budget is $750 there are a huge number of options available to you which aren't even "budget" guitars. I would consider "budget" something less than $200 or so and those instruments can be shoddy in the sense of more difficult to play, don't hold tuning, etc. But if you are willing to spend $350-$500 on just the guitar you will get a quality instrument that is suitable for nearly everything, including live performances and recording; he probably wouldn't want or need any "upgrade" from that unless he gets a couple years playing under his belt.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45545820)



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Date: November 26th, 2022 10:50 AM
Author: aphrodisiac ceo theater stage

this is the only guy ITT who knows what he's talking about

I would also add that you're way better off taking a portion of that $$$ and buying him some in person guitar lessons, even if it's just temporary

justin guitar or whatever is great, but it doesn't compare to the actual in person tactile instruction, especially when you are just starting out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45546222)



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Date: November 26th, 2022 10:53 AM
Author: aphrodisiac ceo theater stage

cannot overemphasize how important it is that the kid be able to hold the guitar in front of a mirror and think "holy shit I look so cool"

it sounds like I'm joking but I'm not

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45546229)



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Date: November 26th, 2022 10:59 AM
Author: unhinged chrome death wish new version

The most important thing is to get him a high quality instrument and setup. There's a general high positive correlation between the money you spend and the quality of your play. I'd probably start him with both an electric and an acoustic so that he can develop versatility early on.

For the electric, consider something like: https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/LPSS00APNH--gibson-slash-les-paul-standard-appetite-amber

For the acoustic, a good starter would be: https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/814ceV--taylor-814ce-acoustic-electric-guitar-natural-with-v-class-bracing-and-radiused-armrest

Don't forget a decent amp--this will give him a solid foundation: https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/65DeluxeRev--fender-65-deluxe-reverb-22-watt-1x12-inch-tube-combo-amp-black

We can get more into supporting gear (effects pedals, composition boards, production tools, mics) in another poast. It's essential to remember that he isn't going to be respected and he isn't going to be able to learn well if he doesn't have the right gear to get him started--"The Gear is the Music" in the words of Johnny Cash.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45546247)



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Date: November 26th, 2022 11:01 AM
Author: aphrodisiac ceo theater stage

(sweetwater sales engineer)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45546256)



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Date: November 26th, 2022 11:02 AM
Author: Nubile racy newt parlor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45546259)



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Date: November 26th, 2022 12:21 PM
Author: Curious Partner Box Office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45546619)



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Date: November 26th, 2022 12:26 PM
Author: fragrant cumskin location

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45546638)



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Date: November 26th, 2022 12:21 PM
Author: Curious Partner Box Office

What type of music does he listen to?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45546622)



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Date: November 26th, 2022 12:22 PM
Author: vengeful comical people who are hurt theater

SG Special and an orange mini-amp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45546627)



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Date: November 26th, 2022 1:14 PM
Author: glittery electric furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45546836)



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Date: November 26th, 2022 1:08 PM
Author: glittery electric furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45546801)



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Date: November 26th, 2022 1:09 PM
Author: beady-eyed crystalline house

Yamaha FG800 Acoustic Guitar + Bob Dylan CD

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45546806)



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Date: November 26th, 2022 7:08 PM
Author: Electric corner idea he suggested

Is the kid white or Mexican?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45548129)



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Date: November 26th, 2022 10:51 PM
Author: chestnut market

Starter packs with the guitar and amp are trash. Build quality on the guitar will be so shitty, your kid will be underwhelmed and quit and the distortion on the amp will sound like some shit coming out of a 20 dollar transistor radio.

Your best option is go to used and find a v22 bugera tube amp or one of those digital boss modeling amps. Vox also makes a decent modeler. Any of these shouldn’t be more than $300.

Use the rest to buy a used G&L tribute or a Harley Benton from Reverb. I would recommend epiphone, but my sole experience with them was negative—bridge pickup on my Gibson TV knock off didn’t work—so I’d rather not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45548875)



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Date: November 27th, 2022 12:12 AM
Author: Indigo Motley Lodge

I've seen a lot about Harley Benton. I might buy the active pickup flying V some time. $169

I did buy the Harley Benton lap steel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45549038)



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Date: November 28th, 2022 9:40 AM
Author: Curious Partner Box Office

If you’re set on guitar you need to decide on acoustic or electric, which should come down to whichever is more prevalent in the music he listens to. But why guitar specifically— has the kid asked for one?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5242136&forum_id=2#45553248)