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Date: December 7th, 2022 12:44 PM Author: stimulating market Which is more prestigious? I seem to remember back when I was 18, lifeguard on a beach, NYPD cop bragged to me how he got those jeeps off DUI auction lots for $3k. He said that's the benefit of becoming nypd. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45599105) |
Date: December 7th, 2022 12:48 PM Author: ocher field This is like a TMF bat signal.
BooR you definitely seem like a Jeep guy. |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 12:49 PM Author: sick heady hunting ground (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45599136) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 12:51 PM Author: stimulating market I bet jeep is actually more comfortable and better for actual driving. But afraid it's too cheap, paying the cost of Porsche macan for a car owned by proles (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45599149) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 12:57 PM Author: ocher field Seriously, no, of course it isn't. The only reason to get the Jeep is that you can't afford the Porsche. Also, the JGC competitor from Porsche is the Cayenne, not the Macan. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45599173) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 1:33 PM Author: stimulating market Cayenne doesnt even fit a bicycle inside. So it is smaller than rav4 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45599366) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 3:10 PM Author: ocher field I don't think the interior space is dramatically different between a GC and a Cayenne (assuming you don't opt for the coupe). Either way, you'll be putting the bike on the roof or on a carrier on the tow hitch. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45599839) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 3:37 PM Author: stimulating market No the whole point of SUV is to put the bike inside. U can do that in rav4 and Honda crv. Setting up a hitch and tying a bike on it is too much effort if I am only driving 1hr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45600000) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 3:42 PM Author: Startled mauve locale You’re retarded. You just throw a hitch in the trailer and the toss the bike on that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45600033) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 3:43 PM Author: Startled mauve locale Allen Sports 3-Bike Hitch Racks for 1 1/4 in. and 2 in. Hitch https://a.co/d/at4N2d5 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45600038) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 9:17 PM Author: ocher field (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45601538) |
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Date: December 8th, 2022 5:05 PM Author: Soul-stirring cowardly juggernaut Can't put a bike inside any mid-soze SUV if you've got car seats. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45605370) |
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Date: December 8th, 2022 5:08 PM Author: stimulating market If u fold back seats, it easily fits into rav4 or Honda crv (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45605386) |
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Date: December 8th, 2022 5:11 PM Author: Soul-stirring cowardly juggernaut Can't do that with car seats. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45605402) |
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Date: December 8th, 2022 9:21 PM Author: ocher field BooR is single with no kids. He doesn't have car seats. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45606460) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 3:48 PM Author: Spruce Stage Why are you putting a bicycle inside of an SUV
There are literal purpose-built bike racks you should use for that |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 3:57 PM Author: stimulating market I can't think of any other reason to have SUV over sedan if not to throw a bike inside. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45600095) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 9:19 PM Author: ocher field How about pets, kids, transporting things, towing, more ground clearance, more space to haul whatever it is you haul? For bikes you throw it on a bike carrier. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45601544) |
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Date: December 8th, 2022 12:42 AM Author: stimulating market If I had kids/pets I would probably move to lake Tahoe to live in a more sporty environment. Miami is not a good place for them. I dont see how someone in Miami hauls anything unless u actually work in construction. You hire people for that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45602142) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 5:57 PM Author: Fragrant Gay Black Woman Why are you riding a bike in Miami? Are you suicidal? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45600700) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 7:05 PM Author: ocher field Tons of people ride bikes in Miami. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45600928) |
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Date: December 8th, 2022 12:35 AM Author: stimulating market I'm not. That's why I have not bought a car yet, not much use for it. In northeast or especially west u could drive a certain distance to get to the base of a mountain for cycling. Obviously also could drive to a ski resort with skis. In Miami I can make it to the beach road along Miami beach without needing a car. But if I do have a car there isnt really any good park worth driving to. I could just drive to NY once a year or so and stop along the way with my bike. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45602126) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 12:54 PM Author: Talking area hominid Now imagine someone from 1992 reading this thread title. "You're trying to decide between a Jeep ... and a Porsche?" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45599164) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 3:11 PM Author: ocher field In 1992 it would make no sense and the immediate response would be "lol, Porsche will NEVER make an SUV!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45599842) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 3:44 PM Author: Startled mauve locale In 1992, the response would have been what is an SUV? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45600040) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 6:05 PM Author: flatulent telephone institution In 1992 the ford explorer was in its second year of production and it, the Cherokee, Blazer, Bronco, suburban, wagoneer, Range Rover etc were all quite popular. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45600734) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 8:57 PM Author: Startled mauve locale I was alive then and my family owned a FJ60 landcruiser. These cars were not “quite popular.” We were the only family I knew in my wealthy neighborhood who had an SUV until the mid-90s (and it was my Dad’s car; soccer moms driving SUVs was unheard of until like 1995 or 1996). Dads mostly drove sedans (mine had an E32 Bimmer) and rich moms were all VOLVOPIGGS and poor moms had DAT CAPRICE STATION WAGON or maybe DAT ASTRO VAN. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45601450) |
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Date: December 8th, 2022 8:38 AM Author: Copper arousing parlor preventive strike last sentence nails it. E32 is a classy dad car of our era. we had a JGC in the early 90s and it wasn't super common (we also didn't really like it--minivans and sedans were better suited to our needs) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45602854) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 3:38 PM Author: Tan Pistol Mental Disorder stfu you fag. buying some slightly nicer version of a car isnt going to change your depression or shitty life. but owning a car vs. not is a big deal. so just buy a fucking car, for yourself (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45600005) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 3:40 PM Author: Bisexual Sweet Tailpipe Grand Wagoneer may be a more apt comparison. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45600019) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 3:44 PM Author: Very Tactful Theatre Keepsake Machete I do not, for the life of me, understand a person who would drop 100k on a fucking chrysler/fiat jeep that is almost certainly a piece of shit in some major respect (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45600041) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 3:48 PM Author: histrionic clown because it's a sick vehicle (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45600053) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 3:50 PM Author: Very Tactful Theatre Keepsake Machete it's a fucking jeep (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45600060) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 3:53 PM Author: histrionic clown it's better than a Mercedes or BMW (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45600073) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 3:54 PM Author: Very Tactful Theatre Keepsake Machete bmw maybe, but paying that money for a shitty american car is nuts (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45600079) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 4:15 PM Author: histrionic clown BMWs and Mercedes are American cars. wtf are you talking about? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45600203) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 4:16 PM Author: Very Tactful Theatre Keepsake Machete I've never seen an american car with an interior that would justify 100k, at least a fucking s class is a little better (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45600213) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 4:17 PM Author: histrionic clown They're all made in America. Are you retarded? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45600217) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 4:17 PM Author: Very Tactful Theatre Keepsake Machete are you? because that's not what anybody means by american car, are toyotas american now? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45600221) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 4:19 PM Author: histrionic clown They're made in America. Do you think you own a Japanese knife when it says "Made in China" on it? |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 4:19 PM Author: Very Tactful Theatre Keepsake Machete jfc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45600238) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 4:33 PM Author: histrionic clown lol cope more tell us how heart broken you are to know your BMW X3 shitbox is made by a bunch of 90 IQ blacks in South Carolina |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 4:19 PM Author: mentally impaired stead lmao. yeah and so are hondas. all cars are american! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45600235) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 4:27 PM Author: histrionic clown Where do you think these cars are made? Your precious BMWs are built by 90 IQ blacks in South Carolina (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45600297) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 4:22 PM Author: alcoholic pit Interiors are the only thing American car companies consistently get right. Toyota interiors are horrendous and Honda isn't far behind. People talk up Mazda but they all feel cramped to me. Their SUVs somehow have about as much interior space as a Corolla. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45600254) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 4:24 PM Author: Very Tactful Theatre Keepsake Machete I think you may be missing the point, at 100k they do not get anything "right" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45600267) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 5:04 PM Author: ocher field "I've never seen an american car with an interior that would justify 100k"
I hear this often but this is ass backward. Many American cars have awesome interiors and are super comfy. Jeep is a great example of that. American cars tend to have inferior engines and mechanics and crappier handling. Again, Jeep is an example of that.
Also holy shit American car service is awful. |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 4:21 PM Author: alcoholic pit I don't have a dog in this race, but I sat in some kind of jeep recently and it had the most comfortable car seats I've ever sat in. I would consider it just for that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45600249) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 4:26 PM Author: stimulating market Yeah that's why when I dont trust what people say. Like I took a taxi in a Tesla. And it made me seasick like any cheaply made car. And it obviously has this stupid console that's only useful for the manufacturer to auto update and control u, and makes the use of the car just more difficult for the driver (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45600284) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 4:59 PM Author: ocher field The Grand Cherokee design comes from the old Mercedes ML back when they were one company. The Mercedes ML evolved and the Jeep, well, it didn't. But the seats are still very comfy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45600457) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 4:21 PM Author: stimulating market With regards to sleeping or fucking in the car, I know u can do it in a large truck. How does cayenne compare? Is macan literally smaller than a camry? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45600251) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 4:22 PM Author: effete curious box office kitty Cayenne Turbo driver here. Considered Grand Cherokees for about a second. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45600253) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 4:28 PM Author: stimulating market Can u show me a picture of the inside of your car with a human body lying horizontally, or cant fit? And a bike. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45600300) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 4:34 PM Author: histrionic clown Boor, for as short as you are, I can assure you it will fit a tricycle (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45600321) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 4:47 PM Author: stimulating market Aren't u the fattest fish? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45600401) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 5:00 PM Author: ocher field That's not me and I'm not the FATTEST fish, though I could admittedly lose some chonk. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45600459) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 7:25 PM Author: ocher field That's not really a direct competitor. Something like an X5M/X6M or GLE 63 are. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45601004) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 5:13 PM Author: flatulent telephone institution I love Porsches, but the current Cayenne and all Macans are shit pure shit.
For an SUV that’s reasonably new, Toyota is always the answer. Get a Land Cruiser, Sequoia, 4runner, Lexus LX or GX, but avoid the new V6 hybrid sequoias and LX600h. Any one will go 20 years 250k miles without needing much of anything. JGC are shit and have been since they stopped selling them with the 4.0 straight six (and those rusted out and were shit build quality). |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 7:22 PM Author: ocher field I don't have a Cayenne or Macan but they're good for what they are which is performance SUVs. Sure, they're not really made for the Rubicon but BooR isn't going serious offroading anyway. I have a BMW X6 and it is in the same category and I love it. It is good if I drive it in crap weather and it performs amazingly well with a turbo-V8 and will get me to 60 in under 4 seconds. If I go deer hunting, need to tow or haul I'll have the Cybertruck (niche previously occupied by the Jeep Grand Cherokee).
All the SUVs listed aren't competitors to the Porsches. The Jeep Grand Cherokee is sort of an odd duck in that it actually does try to play in both the performance SUV space and the utility space at a somewhat budget price. But unless you want an SRT you're not going to get impressive performance and the utility is just ok. Weirdly, my Cybertruck will do both better. |
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Date: December 8th, 2022 8:43 AM Author: Copper arousing parlor preventive strike i'm really having trouble imagining someone going deer hunting in a cybertruck. maybe i'm just stuck in the past and this is the future (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45602871) |
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Date: December 7th, 2022 9:16 PM Author: Startled mauve locale Cayennes and Macans are actually great compared to most SUVs. Very reliable, better transmissions, WAY better interior finishes, air suspension, decent towing capacity, 20+ MPG these days. Have you even driven a new Cayenne GTS? It’s the best SUV I’ve ever driven bar none.
Landcruisers are great but they are done making them for now and good luck finding a decent used one without an insane markup. Mileage is LJL. GXs are a good value, but on-road driving dynamics are SHIT pure SHIT top-heavy at 70 MPH and the v8 mileage sucks too. |
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Date: December 8th, 2022 5:03 PM Author: Soul-stirring cowardly juggernaut Toyota seems pretty good at hybrids at this point, no? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45605364) |
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Date: December 8th, 2022 5:07 PM Author: stimulating market It's obvious rav4 hybrid will last longer than any Porsche, no maintenance, and can fit more stuff and drive to NY on 1/2 cost of gas. But it looks like a Toyota and costs like a macan s with 30k miles on it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45605381) |
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Date: December 8th, 2022 5:10 PM Author: Soul-stirring cowardly juggernaut The new sequoia he mentioned is a hybrid. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45605401) |
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Date: December 8th, 2022 9:31 PM Author: sickened shivering property fanboi New LCs (Lexus LX) are sps American made garbage now. The FB groups are littered with ppl complaining how their covid laborer built 100K rig is falling apart. T4R and maybe a Patrol/Armada are your best bet since they are still made in Japan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45606489) |
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Date: December 8th, 2022 12:04 AM Author: yapping infuriating faggot firefighter school cafeteria bor and TMF seriously need to meet up and party. aren't they basically neighbors now? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45602061) |
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Date: December 8th, 2022 8:48 AM Author: Copper arousing parlor preventive strike i'm surprised the wrangler doesn't get mentioned in a thread like this. questionable driving dynamics, too expensive for the build quality, easy to make fun of. but the thing it has going for it is tradition and purity: an american icon, better at driving off-road (or posing like you would) than anything, can take the doors off when it's hot, just seems like it'd be fun. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45602877) |
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Date: December 8th, 2022 4:59 PM Author: stimulating market Ok I think I'll end up buying cayenne s. But there are better deals available for macans.. btw if u buy from carvana or some used car dealership is there away not to have that on your plate? I dont want to advertise a ttt dealership on my plate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248967&forum_id=2#45605342) |