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Who is the GOAT athlete in his/her prime?
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 5:40 PM Author: excitant hospital persian Which athlete had the GOAT peak?
My vote is for Ronaldo (Brazilian). |
Date: January 3rd, 2023 5:42 PM Author: ungodly jade foreskin Bo Jackson (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45736664) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 5:43 PM Author: Spruce fear-inspiring wagecucks we've done this, it was some cricket player who blew everyone else away for years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45736668) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 6:55 PM Author: Olive Electric Furnace Sound Barrier don bradman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45736974) |
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Date: January 5th, 2023 1:45 AM Author: Charismatic wrinkle If the question is which GOAT had the most dominant career, Bradman is TCR and that's not really debatable. If you compare his career stats to the league average in cricket, Bradman is the equivalent of a career .400 batting average in baseball or a career average of 50 points per game in basketball. But I'm not sufficiently familiar with his career to be able to say whether he had a "prime" period that was completely insane or if he was just ridiculously dominant over his entire career. Was his best year as dominant as (just off the top of my head) peak Koufax or Pedro? I don't know enough to say for sure. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45744078) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 5:43 PM Author: chestnut cumskin gunner Tiger slam is probably the peak of dominance in any one sport (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45736670) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 5:44 PM Author: dashing stead As far as personality combined with physicality - Mike Tyson (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45736671) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 5:45 PM Author: excitant hospital persian Tyson is tough to analyze. Did he blow everyone out in his early years because he was just that good or did we just never see that version of him in the ring against another elite fighter? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45736680) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 5:46 PM Author: chestnut cumskin gunner I'm gonna defer to Ali, who said publicly he thought Tyson could beat him, and he wasn't exactly a modest fellow (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45736684) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 10:03 PM Author: topaz contagious kitty tanning salon The guy who lost in his prime to some random nobody? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45743273) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 5:46 PM Author: autistic people who are hurt Michael Jordan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45736682) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 5:53 PM Author: excitant hospital persian At 20, Ronaldo scored 47 goals in 49 games for Barca.
By way of comparison, at that age Cristiano Ronaldo scored 12 goals in 47 games for Man U and Messi scored 16 goals in 40 games for Barca. |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 5:55 PM Author: Peach histrionic mad cow disease shrine Goals just don't capture how good R9 was in his prime, like dude was a one-man force that CR7 just couldn't reach even in his prime
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 6:02 PM Author: excitant hospital persian its true. his combination of touch, creativity, intelligence, size, speed remains unmatched. he managed to be effective at top levels despite having 1 knee and being 50 lb overweight. It's hard to see how CR7 would impact the game without his athleticism.
the insane output at a young age is pretty remarkable though. even if you look at his goalscoring in the Brazilian league when he was 16 it's just completely insane.
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 6:08 PM Author: Peach histrionic mad cow disease shrine Some of the dribbling there is just ridiculous
pretty much every other player, even the best ones, try to dodge defenders w/ their skills. Ronaldo just dribbled thru them and they couldnt stop him
CR7 is one of the best, but definitely a tier lower than Messi & even R9 when we're talking absolute peak
It's nuts how R9 managed to completely change his playstyle after having 2 derrick rose-esque injuries in both of his knees and STILL won the Golden Boot in the World Cup in '02
Dude without his prime athleticism still managed to be essentially the same kind of player CR7 was when they won 3 CL in a row, essentially living off of his positioning/finishing
It's like if Bron had a Derrick Rose-esque injury and lost most of his athleticism in the late '00s, and still put up a top 15 career ever even after completely changing his playstyle |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 6:26 PM Author: excitant hospital persian tyft. R9 = GOAT POTUS athlete of all time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45736851) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 10:07 PM Author: arousing vermilion gaming laptop Ronaldinho is the most talented player of all time, actually (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45737936) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 10:23 PM Author: excitant hospital persian the Brazil '02 team was so insane.
without hesitation I take R9 in his prime over ronaldinho. i give a skills edge to ronaldinho but i think its actually pretty close.
Here's a good video comparing their skills.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmmN1vo80YQ
R9 had an incredibly soft touch and despite his size could dribble in very tight spaces and break down defenses. I genuinely don't think that any #9 in the history of the sport comes anywhere close to him.
By contrast, there are #10s I'd take over a prime ronaldinho like messi and zidane.
It's really a testament to how we shouldn't have children playing on large fields or anything more than 7 v 7 until they are teenagers. There's such a stupid focus on winning games and trophies when the emphasis needs to be 99% on skills and training. |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 10:28 PM Author: insanely creepy floppy native i'm actually amazed at how invested you are in sports for being a pudgy jew (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45738037) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 10:43 PM Author: excitant hospital persian i was a pretty good soccer player in my youth. i didn't get fat until my mid-20s. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45738108) |
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Date: January 5th, 2023 5:56 PM Author: Peach histrionic mad cow disease shrine Rate the most preftigious formation
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Date: January 5th, 2023 6:17 PM Author: excitant hospital persian kind of depends on the personnel on the team.
My preference is a 4-3-2-1, which I thought would have been good for the USMNT with Pulisic and Reyna playing winger and Weah up front. Midfield held down by Adams, Mckennie and Musah. Ream, Zimmerman, Dest and i forget who else in the back.
Most prestigious i guess is 4-4-2. i got absolutely torched on here years ago for saying i played stopper, which I did. Sure its a dated term, but was a common position 20 years ago. I was always most comfortable in a #6 type position. Depending on the team I also played a #7. At the very end of my competitive soccer career I developed into more of a goal scorer averaging a goal/game in my last club season. |
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Date: January 11th, 2023 7:54 PM Author: Peach histrionic mad cow disease shrine I definitely love the 4-3-3 b/c of the whole passing option thing
I have a huge bias against 4-4-2 though
I prefer a 4-2-3-1 or a 4-3-3 and I have a huge bias against 4-4-2 b/c the 2 man midfield just gets pwned, and while it has been used so much by lower sides b/c it can be the most effective in defending (Simeone's perfected the modern low-block 4-4-2 to lighting counter game), it is terrible in providing good passing options
Honestly though for a 4-4-2 to work in the modern game it basically turns into a 4-2-3-1 w/ usually one of the CFs dropping
Formations are a bit misleading b/c it's really about the shape you have with the ball, in transition, and without the ball
I used to set this 4-3-3 in FM and FIFA where in attack it looks like a 3-2-5
LB - LW - ST - -- RW -------------RCM(Mezz'ala)
----LCM--CDM-------
--CB -- CB ---RB
Basically ahve one of the fullbacks drop & tuck into form a back 3 (could also have them tuck into midfield which is what City has been doing, you can pull this off in FM but until FIFA 23 the "inverted wingback" instructions didn't work)
Or a 4-2-3-1 where again have lopsided fullbacks so one of them is basically a classic winger, one of the dms push up, the AM drifts wide, the wingers cut in (basically Son Heung Min and Salah's role)
4-4-2 makes it easy to defend w/ a compact formation & press hard, but in attack you need guys to move in position to receive passes or just rely on long balls, and a lot of the 4-4-2 by the mid 2000s basically were 4-2-3-1: Arsenal had Henry drift wide, Bergkamp drop lower, Ljungberg and Pires pushing up high
Same w/ Ferguson's United w/ Rooney taking on a more playmaking role
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Date: January 5th, 2023 6:27 PM Author: Bisexual Cuck that video is SPS and ADD inducing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45747522) |
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Date: January 5th, 2023 8:06 PM Author: excitant hospital persian Not the best quality. All those clips are om other videos but this was the only one that had both.
R9 could do prob 98% of what ronaldinho could. The reverse is not true. |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 11:03 PM Author: cerebral community account mental disorder not some basketball stats nerd but i'm pretty sure mj had MULTIPLE seasons where he averaged over 0.96 points per game. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45738182) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 11:29 PM Author: excitant hospital persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45738326) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 6:33 PM Author: Sinister Pale Legal Warrant School (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45736885) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 5:49 PM Author: irradiated house Jim Thorpe was pretty damn badass.
on the women's side, Jackie Joiner Kersee kind of blows away all the other women. |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 9:25 AM Author: narrow-minded cream keepsake machete multi-billionaire Thorpe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45739204) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 5:58 PM Author: Peach histrionic mad cow disease shrine Usain Bolt
'96 MJ
'13 Bron
'00-'01 Pedro
'01-'04 Bonds
'96-'99 Ronaldo Nazario
'09-'12 Messi
'86 Maradona - carried Argentina and Napoli to a title
USS Enterprise vs Japan
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 6:23 PM Author: autistic people who are hurt 87-88 MJ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45736841) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 6:35 PM Author: Sinister Pale Legal Warrant School The money view is Jordan had three peaks / primes depending on how you define them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45736893) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 10:53 PM Author: excitant hospital persian Bolt might be it. complete dominance in sprinting over the course of 3 olympics games. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45738150) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 6:00 PM Author: Exciting Nubile Public Bath Personal Credit Line djokovic 2011. 3 slams, 10-1 vs fedal both at their peak (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45736747) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 6:03 PM Author: excitant hospital persian both were faded by that point. prime nadal was the GOAT easy peasy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45736757) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 6:05 PM Author: Exciting Nubile Public Bath Personal Credit Line lol stfu thoni. define prime "nadal" -- one match beating fed in the dark? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45736769) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 6:31 PM Author: excitant hospital persian 2010 nadal is 24, djoker is 23. Historically, this is prime age for tennis. Rafa pwned and anyone who was watching knows he wasn't the same after. in 2011-2012, he was basically a crippled version of himself and still managed to nearly beat a pathetic djoker. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45736867) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 6:32 PM Author: Exciting Nubile Public Bath Personal Credit Line oh what a wimbledon champ beating tomas birdbrain in the final, murrayfag in the semi, and soderloling in the quarters. what a dominating performance of a GOAT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45736878) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 6:45 PM Author: excitant hospital persian yeah and djokovic lost to those guys. he was there, in his physical prime and lost to the guys you mock rafa for beating.
i know were only a couple days into 2023 but this is gonna be in the running for self-pwn of the year. |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 6:54 PM Author: Exciting Nubile Public Bath Personal Credit Line djoker was a djoke until 2011. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45736971) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 6:00 PM Author: dashing stead lol at “her” fag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45736748) |
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Date: January 11th, 2023 8:56 PM Author: insanely creepy floppy native Ran here to poast "Ran here" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45776426) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 6:05 PM Author: Exciting Nubile Public Bath Personal Credit Line her has to be Navratilova 82-86. lost 14 total matches in 5 yrs, and won 12 slams. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45736763) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 6:11 PM Author: Peach histrionic mad cow disease shrine Korean Women's Archery Team won every gold since '88 since the introduction of the team event, and in the individual women's archery games only once did a non-Korean win gold since 1988 as well, in '08 in Beijing where the silver & bronze were all Korean
The qualifiers for the Korean team is reportedly more difficult than winning the gold in actual olympic games |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 6:24 PM Author: big messiness Bobby Fischer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45736845) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 6:59 PM Author: Olive Electric Furnace Sound Barrier jahangir khan, won 555 squash matches in a row (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45736989) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 7:00 PM Author: excitant hospital persian daaaamn. are you a squashmo? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45736993) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 7:01 PM Author: Olive Electric Furnace Sound Barrier not really. its fun to play but im not good and i dont follow the game
this fact just stuck with me |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 7:10 PM Author: excitant hospital persian yeah i played a couple times in LS and really liked it.
that's pretty much it though. i think in my heart i am technically a squashmo. |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 7:12 PM Author: Olive Electric Furnace Sound Barrier 180 man. i used to have squash shoes but i sold them before i left singapore since i have nowhere to play here (and no one to play with!) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45737053) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 7:29 PM Author: Spruce fear-inspiring wagecucks In November 1979, Torsam Khan, who had been one of the leading international squash players in the 1970s, died suddenly of a heart attack during Australian Open match in Adelaide Australia. Torsam's death profoundly affected Khan. He considered quitting the game, but decided to pursue a career in the sport as a tribute to his brother. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45737128) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 7:02 PM Author: mahogany electric theatre Jerry Rice had both a peak and longevity that will never be matched. Dude was playing WR as a goddamned 40 year old and put up great numbers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45737011) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 9:47 PM Author: Swashbuckling bearded pozpig senate Ric Flair (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45737829) |
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Date: January 5th, 2023 9:54 PM Author: Swashbuckling bearded pozpig senate i so wish Trump did the Ric Flair "Whoooooo!!!!" when he was winning (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45748583) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 10:06 PM Author: glittery lake resort Barry Bonds is the only correct modern answer. If you look at stuff like OBP, the difference between Bonds and the #2 player is the same as the #2 player and the worst qualified players in the league.
I think you can make arguments for Tom Brady and Michael Phelps for their ability to pull shit out, but they seem more lucky than great - its easy to imagine both of them having 1/2 the championships they have.
Shaq is probably the answer for basketball. If he was officiated normally and gave 100% of his effort, he was basically unbeatable. Instead they created new rules to stop him and he was never in shape and still won 4 championships. |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 10:26 PM Author: insanely creepy floppy native Barry Bonds is a good candidate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45738025) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 11:09 PM Author: Appetizing theater stage good answer--it's totally bonds. you give the evidence why brady cannot be the answer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45738195) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 11:24 PM Author: Twinkling crusty field water buffalo Barry Bonds is cr. for the last 25 years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45738298) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 9:53 AM Author: Startling shaky lay alpha It is Bonds. He was so dominant that even top pitchers with great control walked him rather than give him anything to hit. He also was a strong fielder and runner in his youth.
The luck argument for Brady is fairly dumb given the sustained run of success. But it’s outright retarded for Phelps. What is the luck element in swimming? Other guys actually could swim faster but a freak wave knocked them out of contention? Favorable wind in the pool?
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Date: January 4th, 2023 10:00 PM Author: glittery lake resort He won that relay race by like a slightest of all margins and a few other races were close.
The luck comes from pulling out those races which were coin flips but also just the timing of it. If the Olympics are held in the summer of 2010, does he win all those medals? |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 10:34 PM Author: Startling shaky lay alpha Winning is winning, especially in a racing sport with no meaningful weather or equipment. He had plenty of blowouts and in the close ones I doubt the other guys were like "oh whatever I could have gone a little faster, didn't realize he was gonna be that good!"
Also you don't evaluate athletes by weird contrafactuals. What if the Super Bowl were held on the moon? Aging astronauts with the best spacesuits would be better than Brady in whatever shit he and Gronk could build! Everyone knows when the Olympics are (barring 2020-2021) and the top athletes prepare accordingly. |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 10:09 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy forum Bonds is a fine answer, being the best hitter of all time and all.
But your point about him being far and away above #2 is BS given that Sosa was #2 in 2001 and Jim Thome and Manny in 2002.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/majors/2001-batting-leaders.shtml
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/majors/2002-batting-leaders.shtml
Someone above said Tiger Slam and that seems like a bigger spread from #1 to #2 for that run (I think Tiger won all 4 consecutive majors by like record stroke count at the time, like the most dominant stretch conceivable) |
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Date: January 5th, 2023 12:30 AM Author: big-titted ruby ape Bonds had more intentional walks in 2004 than Sosa had walks in any season. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45743938) |
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Date: January 5th, 2023 7:06 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy forum Yeah and Bonds OPS was off the chart but so was Sosa's and the spread ain't wider than the spread between Sosa's and the worst hitter (Cal Ripken's OPS that year was .637):
1. Bonds • SFG 1.379 2. Sosa • CHC 1.174 3. Giambi • OAK 1.137 4. Gonzalez • ARI 1.117 5. Helton • COL 1.116 6. Walker • COL 1.111 7. Berkman • HOU 1.051 8. Thome • CLE 1.040 9. Jones • ATL 1.032 10. Rodriguez • TEX 1.021 |
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Date: January 5th, 2023 10:56 PM Author: big-titted ruby ape Judge had one of the most stand out seasons in a long time, and he was less 100 points higher than #2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45748904) |
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Date: January 5th, 2023 10:34 PM Author: glittery lake resort Look at obp in 2004 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45748785) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 10:13 PM Author: bull headed gaping sweet tailpipe Wasn’t Bret Hart the beat there is, the best there was, and the best there ever will be? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45737959) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 10:16 PM Author: fighting tantric dysfunction 7-way tie between: -Babe Ruth -Ted Williams -Barry Bonds -Michael Jordan -Tiger Woods -Tom Brady -Larry Bird |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 10:27 PM Author: insanely creepy floppy native Huge Bird fan but he wasn't as dominant as the others...went back and forth with the Lakers as far as championships. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45738030) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 10:35 PM Author: fighting tantric dysfunction His prime was only 2 seasons during which he put up better #s than Jordan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45738075) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 10:51 PM Author: excitant hospital persian i don't think tom brady belongs on this list. he's had the best career of any QB, but has he ever been like the most sensational and dominant player like the other guys on that list (outside of Bird) were?
Also, did you enjoy growing up in the suburbs of boston? |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 12:18 AM Author: insanely creepy floppy native i actually don't think it's possible for a football player to be on the list. it's too much of a team sport. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45738507) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 9:06 AM Author: excitant hospital persian yeah i think the difference for football is that the plays are so structured that a player's impact on a game is sometimes not in his control which is different than more free flowing team sports like soccer, basketball, hockey and even baseball. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45739176) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 11:49 AM Author: fighting tantric dysfunction Brady was starting QB in 10 of the last 20 super bowls when he retired but I see you're point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45739953) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 12:17 PM Author: excitant hospital persian i shouldn't weigh in on football because i really am not a huge fan of the sport.
brady never looked sensational to me. he's got a huge body of work. the greatest career of all time etc. but is peak tom brady the GOAT athlete of all time? Seems wrong to me. |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 12:48 PM Author: sapphire point mad-dog skullcap non-responsive, masshole faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45740325) |
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Date: January 5th, 2023 6:23 PM Author: Poppy faggot firefighter #1 2007 It doesn’t get better than Tom Brady’s performances during the 2007 NFL season. He broke Peyton Manning's single-season TD record with 50 touchdowns, and his passer rating was out of the world.
Tom Brady was one game away from leading the Patriots to a perfect season. Unfortunately, the New York Giants had other ideas, beating the Pats in Super Bowl XLII. Nevertheless, 2007 was Tom Brady’s masterclass. that was #1 for tom brady seasons, but it doesn't meet the requirements of the op NFL Annual Passing Rating Leaders Season Player Rating Team 2011 Aaron Rodgers^ 122.5* Green Bay Packers 2020 Aaron Rodgers^ (3) 121.5 Green Bay Packers 2004 Peyton Manning dagger 121.1* Indianapolis Colts 2013 Nick Foles^ 119.2 Philadelphia Eagles 2019 Ryan Tannehill^ 117.5 Tennessee Titans 2007 Tom Brady^ 117.2 New England Patriots |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 10:25 PM Author: insanely creepy floppy native Karelin, T. Woods, Gretzky (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45738017) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 10:53 PM Author: Marvelous Partner All good answers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45738152) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 11:25 PM Author: excitant hospital persian Karelin might be it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45743685) |
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Date: January 5th, 2023 6:55 PM Author: Poppy faggot firefighter Karelin won gold medals at the 1988, 1992 and 1996 Olympic Games under a different flag each time (Soviet Union, Unified Team and Russia respectively), and a silver medal at the 2000 Olympic Games. His wrestling record is 887 wins and two losses, both by a single point. Prior to his last match versus Rulon Gardner in September 2000, a point had not been scored on him within the previous six years. Prior to his last match versus Rulon Gardner in September 2000, a point had not been scored on him within the previous six years. Prior to his last match versus Rulon Gardner in September 2000, a point had not been scored on him within the previous six years. Prior to his last match versus Rulon Gardner in September 2000, a point had not been scored on him within the previous six years. He went undefeated in the world championships, having never lost a match |
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Date: January 5th, 2023 6:57 PM Author: Marvelous Partner Also, he’s the person on this list I’d be least willing to say to his face that he’s not the GOAT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45747658) |
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Date: January 5th, 2023 6:58 PM Author: Poppy faggot firefighter lol, tie-breaker fact (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45747663) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 10:52 PM Author: Twinkling crusty field water buffalo Wilt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45738147) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 12:19 AM Author: insanely creepy floppy native this is probably the actual answer (if the basis for GOAT is pure dominance) but i avoided answering with people who dominated less competitive eras. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45738513) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 11:50 AM Author: fighting tantric dysfunction Wilt is the most overrated athlete of all time and it's not even really close (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45739960) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 2:04 PM Author: insanely creepy floppy native he's overrated because his competitors sucked, but he IS one of if not the most dominant for that same reason. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45740824) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 11:02 PM Author: turquoise goyim institution Joe Namath at Alabama, hands down (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45738180) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 11:29 PM Author: Cerise background story nibblets It's actually Lance Armstrong. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45738332) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2023 11:42 PM Author: Marvelous Partner Not even the best cyclist all time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45738393) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 12:13 AM Author: excitant hospital persian Who is? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45738478) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 12:17 AM Author: insanely creepy floppy native eddy merckx & greg lemond were both better
lemond would've won as many as lance WITHOUT steroids except he was shot by his dumbass friend while hunting. so his streak was cut short at two. |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 11:56 PM Author: Marvelous Partner Merckx and it’s not close. Eleven Grand Tours (five Tours de France, five Giros d'Italia, and a Vuelta a España), all five Monuments, setting the hour record, three World Championships, every major one-day race other than Paris–Tours.
TdF is the crowning achievement in cycling, yes, but dominating everything without having to peak for one race all year shows how much better he was than everyone else. |
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Date: January 5th, 2023 10:29 PM Author: big-titted ruby ape Tadej Pogecar (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45748754) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 12:14 AM Author: Sooty trump supporter serena williams basically fucked around for years spending half her attention on fashion and still retired the GOATus POATUS and also she takes the dick of the dude who founded reddit, only way someone comes close to beating that is if they have rachmiel as a slampiece (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45738484) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 8:37 AM Author: sapphire point mad-dog skullcap lol Graf blows her away. Serena spent her career beating on a bunch of tomato cans. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45739104) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 8:50 AM Author: Exciting Nubile Public Bath Personal Credit Line and got repeatedly destroyed by henin when both were in their primes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45739133) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 8:50 AM Author: Exciting Nubile Public Bath Personal Credit Line (shitlib who knows nothing about tennis other than the lies ESPN fed him) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45739134) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 9:10 AM Author: excitant hospital persian she didn't "fuck around". She just didn't dominate during her prime physical years because she had other top tier competition. she then had a career renaissance during an historically weak era in women's tennis.
for me she's not the GOAT. Prob 3rd best after graf and martina and would be 4th if monica seles didn't get knifed. |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 9:27 AM Author: Laughsome nowag library She was clearly not taking it seriously. She was playing like 25 pounds overweight at times. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45739209) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 9:40 AM Author: sapphire point mad-dog skullcap Sounds like her own fault for being a fat ape. Either way, her "caring" has no bearing on her (lack of) historical dominance (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45739246) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 9:50 AM Author: excitant hospital persian well this thread is about like pinnacle of an athlete rather than career body of work.
my thought is that serena never spent her prime years dominating the competition. that disqualifies her from this discussion. |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 10:09 AM Author: Exciting Nubile Public Bath Personal Credit Line (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45739331) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 2:01 PM Author: irradiated house Jackie Joyner-Kersee scored 1,000 points while playing basketball at UCLA.
and, oh by the way, as of October 2019, Joyner-Kersee held the world record in heptathlon along with the top six all-time best results whilst her long jump record of 7.49 m is second on the long jump all-time list. In addition to heptathlon and long jump, she was a world class athlete in 100 m hurdles and 200 meters being as of June 2006 in top 60 all time in those events.
her records started about 35 years ago and still stand.
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Date: January 4th, 2023 11:24 PM Author: excitant hospital persian 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45743684) |
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Date: January 5th, 2023 12:37 AM Author: irradiated house just look at this list and especially the dates.
http://www.alltime-athletics.com/whepaok.htm |
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Date: January 5th, 2023 12:39 AM Author: irradiated house and this list:
http://www.alltime-athletics.com/wlongok.htm |
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Date: January 5th, 2023 1:47 AM Author: Charismatic wrinkle I don't think you give Serena enough credit, but I basically agree with you for the purposes of this thread. Serena's claim to GOAT status is that she was a top-tier competitor contending for major titles for a ridiculous long time. She was never as dominant in any one season as peak Navratilova or Graf, so she shouldn't be considered in this thread. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45744081) |
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Date: January 6th, 2023 12:27 PM Author: excitant hospital persian i'm not trying to diss her. I've got her as #3 behind graf and martina for lack of consistency.
I do think the monica seles piece makes it hard to analyze because by the time she got stabbed, a younger seles had emerged as dominant over graf.
After the stabbing, graf had a career resurgence and went on to win 11 more majors. If a good chunk of those were won by seles, i'm not sure how that would impact my rankings. |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 9:49 AM Author: excitant hospital persian sorry bro i'm not buying it. if she's the GOAT athlete, she doesn't spend years 23-27 going 3/20 in slams.
Show me 1 other all time great tennis player who had that kind of career trajectory much less the GREATEST OF ALL TIME.
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Date: January 4th, 2023 10:09 AM Author: Exciting Nubile Public Bath Personal Credit Line (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45739332) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 11:51 AM Author: fighting tantric dysfunction She turned pro at an even younger age than Venus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45739969) |
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Date: January 5th, 2023 12:32 AM Author: big-titted ruby ape She never once won a single game on the WTA circuit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45743948) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 8:39 AM Author: sapphire point mad-dog skullcap Niche sport, non-modern tier: Don Bradman Niche sport, modern tier: Wayne Gretzky Mainstream sport, non-modern tier: Babe Ruth, Jim Brown (tie) Mainstream sport, modern tier: Barry Bonds |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 9:07 AM Author: excitant hospital persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45739178) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 8:43 AM Author: Wonderful Hateful Death Wish Haunted Graveyard here in Europe, Lionel Messi (Barcelona) is the all time fave poster pin up on the wall for most boys and girls growing up (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45739117) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 9:11 AM Author: excitant hospital persian *PSG (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45739184) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 9:28 AM Author: Wonderful Hateful Death Wish Haunted Graveyard mais oui, like fine wine: "le plus vieux - le meilleur" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45739211) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 11:51 AM Author: dashing stead Is your schtick being some wannabe eurofag? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45739970) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 11:57 AM Author: Wonderful Hateful Death Wish Haunted Graveyard *kisses u on each cheek* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45740003) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 12:12 PM Author: sapphire point mad-dog skullcap dcpoast rebranded into this weird euro schtick, but his cadence and midwit GC kike stooge takes are impossible to disguise (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45740103) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 12:20 PM Author: Beady-eyed drab den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45740143) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 1:06 PM Author: Marvelous Partner I called that a couple weeks ago. He has one of the weirdest voices on this site and that’s really saying something (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45740463) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 1:50 PM Author: sapphire point mad-dog skullcap he's been at it for like a year and it was obvious from the jump (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45740716) |
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Date: January 5th, 2023 12:25 AM Author: big-titted ruby ape Ronnie "The Rocket" O'Sullivan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45743931) |
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Date: January 6th, 2023 12:59 PM Author: boyish police squad That guy is 180. Definitely an alpha autist (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45750960) |
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Date: January 12th, 2023 12:55 PM Author: irradiated house https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPZScVVHZ84 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45778821) |
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Date: January 5th, 2023 12:33 AM Author: big-titted ruby ape At the risk of being called a Jew, I propose Kaufax as a runner up to Bonds (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45743950) |
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Date: January 5th, 2023 12:40 AM Author: irradiated house four insane years and two pretty great years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45743970) |
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Date: January 5th, 2023 12:41 AM Author: low-t yellow fanboi I think you can make the argument that Kershaw’s prime was as good as koufax. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45743973) |
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Date: January 5th, 2023 12:53 AM Author: fighting tantric dysfunction Pedro Martinez was equally dominant as Kershaw during the roids era (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45743994) |
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Date: January 5th, 2023 12:02 PM Author: big-titted ruby ape Pedro's one year was GOAT. If you zoom out over 5 years, johnson looks better though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45745283) |
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Date: January 5th, 2023 12:03 PM Author: big-titted ruby ape Yeah. Up there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45745290) |
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Date: January 5th, 2023 12:11 PM Author: big-titted ruby ape Some data:
https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2022&month=0&season1=1942&ind=1&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&startdate=1942-01-01&enddate=2022-12-31 |
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Date: January 5th, 2023 12:17 PM Author: sapphire point mad-dog skullcap Randy Johnson's 1999-2004 stretch has to be considered up there. Just an absolute juggernaut. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45745375) |
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Date: January 5th, 2023 9:32 PM Author: Twinkling crusty field water buffalo This is the most Jewish thing I have ever read. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45748474) |
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Date: January 6th, 2023 12:33 PM Author: Bisexual Cuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45750803) |
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Date: January 5th, 2023 1:53 AM Author: Charismatic wrinkle Any time you talk about "greatest athlete of all time," this guy needs to be part of the discussion:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaius_Appuleius_Diocles
Most Roman charioteers only survived for a few months. This dude dominated for over two decades. They say his total winnings would have amounted to something like $12 billion in today's dollars. |
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Date: January 5th, 2023 12:03 PM Author: greedy main people coldplay fan For the big 4 sports? Gretzky, if you consider him an "athlete" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45745292) |
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Date: January 5th, 2023 12:05 PM Author: big-titted ruby ape https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lcYEUXXPBNQ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45745305) |
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Date: January 5th, 2023 12:07 PM Author: sapphire point mad-dog skullcap not a surprising result, but lol at a 42-year old Pele being in there (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45745316) |
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Date: January 6th, 2023 12:37 AM Author: Charismatic wrinkle Gretzky always comes up in these discussions, and he shouldn't IMHO. He was clearly the greatest offensive hockey player in history by a mile, but that is offset by the fact that he was a complete non-entity on defense. You basically gave the other team a power play any time you didn't have the puck. Advanced statistics say that Gretzky was about as valuable as a player like Ray Bourque (elite defender who was an offensive threat) or Jaromir Jagr (offensive monster who was a liability on defense but nowhere near as bad as Gretzky). And even if you only look at pure offensive stats, Mario Lemieux was on pace to break most of Gretzky's offensive records before he got cancer. So while Gretzky was definitely great, he doesn't belong in any "greatest GOAT" discussion. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45749337) |
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Date: January 6th, 2023 12:48 PM Author: bright heady liquid oxygen stag film 99 has the most goals, assists and points in history. He also has more assists than #2 on the points list has total points. He was absurd. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45750892) |
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Date: January 5th, 2023 12:27 PM Author: fighting tantric dysfunction Revising my answer to Roger Federer.
From Jan 2004 to Jan 2010 he went 15-10 in Grand Slams. He lost in the finals 6 out of the 10 times he didn't win. In 6 years, he failed to reach finals of GS only 4 times. Most of his wins are against the #1 and #2 GS holders and neither of them went >.500 in slams for more than 2 years.
Honestly it's insane that no one else said Federer yet. |
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Date: January 5th, 2023 12:32 PM Author: aphrodisiac sadistic knife Re-read what you've written. That doesn't read like a description of the GOAT. It reads like the description of someone who was "great" but also dealing with strong rivals who were also "great." This is one of the reasons it's easier (whether fairly or unfairly) to argue for someone like Jordan who just dominated the field at his peak. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45745473) |
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Date: January 5th, 2023 12:34 PM Author: fighting tantric dysfunction He won 8 out of 10 consecutive grand slams at one point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45745481) |
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Date: January 5th, 2023 9:36 PM Author: Twinkling crusty field water buffalo Wouldn't any tennis player who happened to be the best at that time do the same thing? Is there a lot of randomness in tennis like golf? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45748497) |
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Date: January 5th, 2023 9:48 PM Author: fighting tantric dysfunction Yeah you're right. I'm revising my answer again to Tyson Fury (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45748551) |
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Date: January 5th, 2023 6:24 PM Author: Exciting Nubile Public Bath Personal Credit Line because djoker's peak was better than fagerer's peak. during the time you listed, djoker was a djoke mental midget (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45747511) |
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Date: January 5th, 2023 7:23 PM Author: fighting tantric dysfunction I like djoker better too but he's more of a burst GOAT whereas Fed had higher peak GOAT dominance over a longer period of time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45747835) |
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Date: January 5th, 2023 9:56 PM Author: odious candlestick maker Tiger Woods clearly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45748592) |
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Date: January 5th, 2023 10:29 PM Author: big-titted ruby ape Golf isn't a sport, though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45748749) |
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Date: January 11th, 2023 8:56 PM Author: irradiated house golf isn't a sport; it's a knack. like pub darts. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45776423) |
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Date: January 6th, 2023 1:13 AM Author: stimulating fortuitous meteor Peak has to be Usain Bolt. I would bet we'll never see 9.58 in our lifetimes, AND we won in the 200 and relays.
Career, obvious answer (who shows up 9 times out of 11 in the top 11 of all time points?): https://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/records/most-points-in-one-season-by-nhl-players.html |
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Date: January 6th, 2023 1:20 AM Author: Poppy faggot firefighter For the first time since 2013, Usain Bolt didn't win a race that wasn't a relay performance. In the semifinal of the men's 100m at the IAAF World Championships on Saturday, the eight-time Olympic champion finished second to rising star Christian Coleman.
The former Tennesse standout and collegiate record-holder executed an impressive start to win heat three in 9.97 while August 5, 2017 Bolt closed in 9.98. Both athletes automatically advanced to the 100m final, which is set to take place at 3:45 p.m. CT.
The last time that Bolt lost a race was on June 6, 2013 when 2004 Olympic champion Justin Gatlin beat him in the 100m at the Rome Diamond League meet. In that race, Gatlin ran 9.94 while Bolt ran 9.95. Bolt has also won every round of the 100m at a global championship with the exception of the prelim of the 2009 World Championships and a false start in the 100m final at the 2011 World Championships. |
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Date: January 6th, 2023 1:57 AM Author: fighting tantric dysfunction Oh wow running fast! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45749550) |
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Date: January 7th, 2023 7:15 PM Author: Poppy faggot firefighter i didn't post it in support of usain and i kinda agree about it just being running, but does usain's dominance even reach moses's? "After breaking his own world record the following year at the Drake Stadium with a time of 47.45 seconds, Moses lost to West Germany's Harald Schmid on August 26, 1977, in Berlin; this was his fourth defeat in the 400 m hurdles. Beginning the next week, Moses beat Schmid by 15 metres (49 ft) in Düsseldorf, and he did not lose another race for nine years, nine months and nine days. Moses qualified for the 1980 U.S. Olympic team but was unable to compete due to the 1980 Summer Olympics boycott. He did however receive one of 461 Congressional Gold Medals created for the athletes.[5] At the 1984 Olympics held in Los Angeles, Moses was selected to recite the Olympic Oath, but forgot the text during his presentation.[4] He went on to win his second Olympic gold medal.
By the time American Danny Harris beat Moses in Madrid on June 4, 1987, Moses had won 122 consecutive races, set the world record two more times, won three World Cup titles, a World Championship gold, as well as his two Olympic gold medals. After the loss to Harris, he went on to win 10 more races in a row, collecting his second world gold in Rome in August of the same year." |
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Date: January 6th, 2023 1:13 PM Author: crimson location becky dallas seavey (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45751045) |
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Date: January 11th, 2023 7:55 PM Author: Amethyst coiffed ceo rigor Compared to the field, Babe Ruth is the biggest anomaly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45776127) |
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Date: January 11th, 2023 9:00 PM Author: fighting tantric dysfunction Red Sox waived him after he won 3 World Series in a row for Boston. Biggest sim glitch in sports history? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264255&forum_id=2#45776437) |