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Alec Baldwin CHARGED with involuntary manslaughter

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11653589/Alec-Baldw...
blue aphrodisiac school stain
  01/19/23
couldn't happen to a nicer guy
red regret
  01/19/23
What did he do wrong?
Sepia Market
  01/19/23
Are you this guy? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D24TQp...
Laughsome bistre skinny woman idiot
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curious heaven trust fund
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red regret
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shot a woman to death because he was waving around a gun lik...
red regret
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"I Still Unload": This Man Is a "Nullo" ...
red regret
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Guy is a total douchbag but involuntary manslaughter for eff...
Snowy Main People Bawdyhouse
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I’m assuming it’s because he’s the produce...
Rebellious Bipolar Garrison Telephone
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Exactly
Dashing garnet range degenerate
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I had read that there are 6 producers on this film, only he ...
Lemon Diverse Institution
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Not all producers are created equal.
Laughsome bistre skinny woman idiot
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Comes down to whoever's name is on the line which is dotted....
Dashing garnet range degenerate
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underrated
racy karate
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That's not true, one of the assistant producers was charged ...
scarlet stag film
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So because he may have been responsible for hiring this dumb...
Snowy Main People Bawdyhouse
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If he was responsible for hiring this dumb bitch and didn't ...
Laughsome bistre skinny woman idiot
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that's retarded, for civil liability sure, but this isn't a ...
Fragrant people who are hurt
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not a lawyer but this sounds highly retarded
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Wonderful Stead Laser Beams
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NM statue seems to include his behavior. Accidental death re...
walnut filthy son of senegal
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cr you’re not gonna find 12 to convict
Sepia Market
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"I Still Unload": This Man Is a "Nullo" ...
red regret
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counterpoint: he voted for this
Vermilion field ape
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(guy who doesn’t believe in accountability)
mahogany university
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Just do claim you thought the gun was unloaded. One weird tr...
vibrant really tough guy
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That’s what I told the cops. They didn’t buy it
hyperactive site cuckold
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I had read that there are safety rules that an actor should ...
Lemon Diverse Institution
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and that’s if it’s during a scene if you&rsqu...
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Film production: just one more area of XO’s never endi...
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gun handling rules don’t just go away cuz some purple ...
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"you should avoid pointing real guns at people as much ...
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Fuchsia new version
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Oh yeah let's defer to the safety protocols of the pack of r...
wild adulterous sex offender
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He only needed to follow 3 of the 4 rules of firearm safety ...
Chestnut crotch
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NM statute reads as follows: >Involuntary manslaughter...
walnut filthy son of senegal
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You have the wrong clause. It’s second clause at play...
Cobalt dragon
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Can someone explain the second involuntary manslaughter char...
scarlet stag film
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>Wtf is involuntary manslaughter in the commission of a l...
walnut filthy son of senegal
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Afaik in Texas they have fewer distinctions in the law but a...
scarlet stag film
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judging by these videos it seems those charged spoke way too...
mahogany university
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what did he do that makes him potentially criminally liable?...
Godawful galvanic national
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he pointed a weapon at a human and pulled the trigger
mahogany university
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isn't it reasonable to assume that it was loaded with a blan...
Godawful galvanic national
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You don't fucking point guns at people. Anyone who is traine...
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abusive bronze haunted graveyard
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dood, there are tons of guns being pointed at people on film...
Fragrant people who are hurt
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Not operational ones unless your armorer is a retard like th...
Chestnut crotch
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The fucking point is that an actor used a prop.
Marvelous hospital trump supporter
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A prop gun that was actually a real gun that fired real bull...
Chestnut crotch
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Wait what, this wasn't during a scene? Per ggtp below.
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live round. the has been under investigation by the DA fo...
Vermilion field ape
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DAs are pretty reluctant to charge high profile people witho...
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and he's a rancid shitlib so if he got charged it sounds to ...
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it's an az and this is the da's website (lol): https://www.1...
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Mary lives in Santa Fe with her wife Jo, a retired law enfor...
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lmfao just assumed she was a con. her being a dyke definitel...
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imagine pulling alec baldwin aside on the set of beetlejuice...
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He voted for this
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You saw her haircut and thought con? That’s a bigger d...
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seems like a lot of southern reptile older ladies sport that...
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Majority of female law enforcement and DAs are all lesbians
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dykes are very conservative on occasion. it's testosterone
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NM, not AZ
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NM not AZ
walnut filthy son of senegal
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he hired someone to be in charge of weapons whom he should h...
walnut filthy son of senegal
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I don’t get the con angle on this. You think he killed...
Irradiated chad goal in life
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the fucking morons were using these guns to shoot tin cans w...
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It’s not clear that he knew wtf was going on. Libs are...
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The question I have is why are shitlibs making movies glorif...
hyperactive site cuckold
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EVERY film with guns has someone blown away irl, leaving beh...
wild adulterous sex offender
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It’s because the armorer was a Woman. This is an indic...
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Oh, I wouldn’t let male libs off the hook. Hence fuck ...
hyperactive site cuckold
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B. Involuntary manslaughter consists of manslaughter committ...
Green boyish organic girlfriend
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Inexperienced armorer / producer point I get, but is it reas...
Vivacious Queen Of The Night Location
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All it would take, imo, is one witness to say that Baldwin k...
Green boyish organic girlfriend
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Can someone explain to me like im 5 why actual guns are used...
Floppy selfie
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to fire a blank you need a functional firearm
Fragrant people who are hurt
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Why do you need to fire a blank in this era of CGI?
Floppy selfie
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because it produces recoil and operates the slide, otherwise...
Fragrant people who are hurt
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weird take gun safety is paramount, so if it takes Hollyw...
mahogany university
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as far as i know, he wasnt shooting a scene or anything, he ...
Glassy antidepressant drug legend
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What is this true
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i thought they were preparing for the scene or maybe rehears...
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"At the time, the actor was practicing how to draw a re...
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This is why he's been arguing since the beginning that he ne...
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that's rehearsal. This is all bullshit. Stop making it sound...
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CR it would unworkable if we CRIMINALLY PROSECUTED every per...
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scarlet stag film
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We've only had one death post Brandon Lee because the previo...
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Get up off your knees and wipe the joojizz off your chin: we...
wild adulterous sex offender
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I feel like it’s not hard in AZ to find some old crust...
mahogany university
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it literally was pure nepotism wasn't it? Like her dad was a...
Vivacious Queen Of The Night Location
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ah yeah I do remember something like that well, I hope he...
mahogany university
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He's dead
scarlet stag film
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lucky him
mahogany university
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Board Trumpenprole: WE LOVE GUN SAFETY LAWS NOW!
Titillating Church
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? we love are gun safety, folks we don’t like li...
mahogany university
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very few cons oppose common sense gun safety shit that is no...
Vermilion field ape
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cons tend to be autistic about gun safety. it's only when so...
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Go to a packed range full of rednecks, start flagging people...
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Lemon Diverse Institution
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Cerise rigpig
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are you actually retarded? yes, "trumpenprole" wh...
red regret
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Explain that to all the people Trumptards shoot in Chicago.
Magical massive native
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That quotemo firing a gun: https://images.app.goo.gl/Yzem...
Cerise rigpig
  01/19/23
he won't plead he'll just go to trial and drag the armory
rusted territorial windowlicker
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He HIRED the unqualified scab armory, that's why he's being ...
Dashing garnet range degenerate
  01/19/23
he didn't even touch the trigger
Maroon Locale
  01/19/23
Unless there is more to the story, this prosecution is dumb ...
wine striped hyena
  01/19/23
Thanks for the insight, gook.
wild adulterous sex offender
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Not criminal negligence, duck sauce tp
scarlet stag film
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This. We are now holding ppl criminally liable because they ...
Snowy Main People Bawdyhouse
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*hires retard to be in charge of not putting bullets in ur g...
Fear-inspiring olive cuckoldry filthpig
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scarlet stag film
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At most it’s a “misdemeanor murder” type o...
Cobalt dragon
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The guns aren't fucking props, you fucking idiot. They're r...
Green boyish organic girlfriend
  01/19/23
Nobody argues it wasn’t stupid of dumb but that’...
Cobalt dragon
  01/20/23
i think baldwin is a piece of shit, but i agree unless ther...
Maroon Locale
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Is there some reason toy guns can’t be made for Hollyw...
Claret Pisswyrm
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they do add the sound, but the flash and reciprocating the s...
Fragrant people who are hurt
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I have a blue laser Glock and I would never even point that ...
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Date: January 19th, 2023 11:13 AM
Author: blue aphrodisiac school stain

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11653589/Alec-Baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter-Rust-shooting.html

Alec Baldwin and Hannah Gutierrez-Reed are to be charged with involuntary manslaughter in the fatal shooting of Rust cinematographer Halyna Hutchins.

New Mexico First Judicial District Attorney Mary Carmack-Altwies and Rust Special Prosecutor Andrea Reeb announced the charges in a written statement today.

Both Baldwin and Gutierrez-Reed face a maximum of 18 months in prison if convicted. Dave Halls, the Assistant Director, has pleaded guilty to the charge of negligent use of a deadly weapon.

'If any one of these three people—Alec Baldwin, Hannah Gutierrez-Reed or David Halls—had done their job, Halyna Hutchins would be alive today.

'It’s that simple,' said Andrea Reeb, the special prosecutor appointed by the DA to the case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45810882)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 11:15 AM
Author: red regret

couldn't happen to a nicer guy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45810893)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 11:18 AM
Author: Sepia Market

What did he do wrong?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45810906)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 11:19 AM
Author: Laughsome bistre skinny woman idiot

Are you this guy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D24TQpTauo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45810913)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 12:16 PM
Author: curious heaven trust fund



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Date: January 19th, 2023 11:26 AM
Author: red regret

Post removed by moderator for violating The Law of The Land.

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Date: January 19th, 2023 11:28 AM
Author: red regret

shot a woman to death because he was waving around a gun like a jackass. I'm sure if some trumptard did the exact same thing you'd also be asking what did he do wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45810984)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 3:30 PM
Author: red regret

"I Still Unload": This Man Is a "Nullo" Who Removed His Penis and Balls

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Simon Davis

10/16/14 11:10AM

Filed to: INTERVIEWS

In 1994, a South Florida man who goes by the name Gelding was surgically castrated. In 2011, he had his penis removed as well. He's a "nullo": A cisgender man who removes his external genitalia completely as a form of body modification, and he recently agreed to answer our questions—from "why?" to "what do balls taste like?"

Gelding is a nudist and describes himself as a submissive bear. Apart from his desire to use a pseudonym, he let it all hang out (so to speak) when I reached out to him and graciously answered every question I had.

Is nullo your preferred term to describe yourself and others like you who are castrated and have removed their penis?

Yes, the reason that we use that it is not transgender. It's simply nullification of what you've got. A friend of mine Mack in San Francisco likes to use the term "mascunull", because I remain as masculine as they come with fur and so forth. But I no longer have the parts.

What are some misconceptions people have about nullos?

A few men don't know their own physiology to the point where they think if they lose their balls they can't come any more. And that's false. If you look at the physiology you see that the fluids are made by the seminal vesicles and the prostate. Very little of the fluid and the content is produced in the testes. I still unload.

But the active ingredient for impregnating someone isn't there.

Right.

Do you get a lot of people who think you're trying to become a woman?

Absolutely. And it's mostly the medical profession who sees the sexes as either male or female. And anyone who wants to alter any part of that is in some way suffering from gender dysphoria. They don't like themselves for some reason and they want to change gender. And that's absolutely false.

It's not a dysphoria. I see it in the positive way of working toward something, rather than away from something. Many of the guys instead of putting a negative feel on it see it as a positive. Being castrated is a positive to them. Rather than removing something that they dislike, they are moving in the direction that they want. I went through a long set of psychological evaluation sessions with a psychologist here in town, because that was necessary in order to have the penis removed.

You've previously discussed your 1994 castration. However, I didn't find anything on your penis removal in 2011. Can you talk about that?

I knew I was uncomfortable in having frankly large male parts. I would quite often sit on my own balls because they were loose unless I wore something tight and held them in I would sit on them and squash them. That got me into trouble playing soccer in college when they forced us to wear these hard plastic cups. What happened was I fell on a guy's upright knee with the weight of another player behind me, so two of us fell on the knee. The knee happened to hit the middle of the plastic cup and imploded and tore me up. I was severely injured.

The doctor saved everything but over a period of time the nerves gave me some problems and I had aches in my testicles all the time. When I was in the military service they tried doing a varicose vein removal but that didn't help, it just made matters worse. They thought I was suffering from varicose veins. So after leaving the service I had them removed. And that removed that little problem but I still had the nerve sensations in the penis which woke me up at night. So I could get erect, but it was painful.

So I talked with my urologist and he said the only treatment for that was to make it numb, which is very dangerous because if you make something like that numb then you don't know if it's infected for some reason. Or remove it, but to do that he needs to cover his ass and asked for a psychological evaluation. And my own doctor is a professor at Nova Southeastern University here in. She is the most brilliant doctor I've ever met. So, I asked her about this problem and she was very forthright and said "well, we'll have to treat you". She didn't consider it something that was wrong with me, she said "we have to investigate." I went to see a psychiatrist and he spent a good 90 minutes with me and said "yes, I have just the person that can work with you." So the psychologist did a battery of personality tests and said "you're perfectly fine, your only problem is that you've got these physical problems which work on your nerves." And I said "yeah." And he said "it also works with your personality" because I'm a gay submissive and I always have been and it wasn't working right. So in order to to fix it I worked toward a goal of having things removed. And that was it. I'm working in a positive way to solve my own personal problem.

But was castration something you were contemplating prior to the injury?

Yes. For whatever reason I was always embarrassed by the size of what I had. It didn't fit my personality.

Do you remember when you the fantasy to remove your testicles first occurred?

I had a baby face in high school, there was one of these bullies and he said "you have a man's equipment but you're still a boy" and he squeezed my balls in the shower. He was on the football team, I was on the soccer team showering together and he said "you shouldn't have such big equipment" so he squeezed my balls and at that point it was just a fantasy for me. So how about getting rid of them for some reason?

When did it go from fantasy to aspiration?

It became a fetish thing where I would do sort of more self destructive things with them like putting rubber bands around them and needles through the balls and whatnot. It's a progression which a lot of guys go through. It's something that works on them and they say "Well, how about if we just have them off? Then I won't be bothered by this constant urge to hurt them". And this is where a psychologist gets into the dysphoria. It's very difficult to distinguish whether it's a dislike for something or instead you're working towards something else. I always thought when I was on the beach—I was also on the swim team—and we had Speedos, it was difficult to pack everything in frankly. I would be embarrassed and everybody was looking and here I am and I've got the biggest package and I'm not the biggest guy and I got a whole lot of looks from everybody.

I had a big dick, it got damaged and I was a bottom. I didn't want to use it, I got pushed into using it, I had to take all sorts of medications and was tired of being somebody else's tool.

Broadly speaking, how can someone know that being a nullo is something they actually want to go through with as opposed to something they fantasize about?

That's something really for a psychologist to answer, but in talking to all the guys that I've been talking with, they try to come up with all sorts of different rationalizations to justify it. In my case, my medical situation really didn't justify it because I was just uncomfortable with what I had. It wasn't medically necessary. But I felt that I would be much more comfortable having the issues of having the sensation but not being able to use it well. It was something like a guy having a useless appendage and it's something he has to carry around, and it becomes baggage after a while.

If someone starts/botches the process on their own, what would you recommend they do? Should people use a cover story to avoid getting in trouble?

No. Go to the emergency room. Today, they have been exposed to a lot more of the literature out there than they were 20 years ago. They're not going to be institutionalized. I mean years ago they used to institutionalize guys that were gay.

How would you say the breakdown is between gay and straight men for nullos?

I would have to say it's mostly gays. I don't know of a straight guy who became a nullo.

You had said in a previous interview that for castrations it's about a two to one for gay to straight men that decide to do it.

I've heard of a couple of straight guys who decided that they were making too many babies so they had their balls off so they could take testosterone and continue. I know quite a few bodybuilders both gay and straight whose testes have shrunk because of the steroids they are taking which are bad for their health. So they got castrated and now they're on medically injected testosterone which is good for them. It's not as harmful as oral steroids are or some of the other shit that they're pumping into themselves.

How would you recommend people do their penectomy and castration?

In the last couple of years, my friend Mack from San Francisco ran into Dr. Crane from Brownstein & Crane and he met him, and I don't know how the two of them had the discussion, and then I had a phone interview with Dr. Crane and I explained my situation with him and now Dr. Crane is no longer doing just transgender type of procedures but [also] genital modifications.

So in a way, you educated him.

The protocol that the doctors use for transgender people is called the Harry Benjamin protocol. So for example Dr. Reed in Miami, before you go to his clinic you have to take female hormones for six months and show some development of breasts and whatnot, some feminine characteristics before he will deal with you. And why do that when you simply want to get the genitals removed?

If anything, wouldn't additional testosterone be what you'd need after castration?

Men who get castrated, they do get depressed if they don't start fairly right away on testosterone. Because the falling hormone causes hot flashes first of all, and then the loss of libido. You lose all interest in sex and everything else.

Are there any changes that occur to the body as a result?

Body changes are minimal really. If you lose your balls, you won't lose all your hair.

What about voice? Is that a myth?

Voice doesn't change, no. The larynx is a hard tissue, and the voice box and everything else is a hard tissue. But the timbre of your voice is a factor of the larynx. I sang in the college choir, I know about these things.

One thing I noticed while reading testimonials is that many people seem to try their hand at castration and penectomy but then go to the doctor only if it goes wrong. How much of this would you say is due to the medical profession's reluctance to remove healthy body parts and how much is due to people's general fear of discussing this type of thing with their doctor or therapist?

You know about the Hippocratic oath right? "First do no harm". They have to be convinced that what they are doing is in fact an improvement on your health. Which is why the surgeon is requesting a psychological evaluation. And the psychologist comes back and says "yeah, he's going to be uncomfortable where he is, he's going to be more improved, better mood, better this, better that" and so forth. So from a totality point of view, it's going to get better after he gets modified.

And let me tell you my mood has improved dramatically since going nullo. I don't miss the baggage. I don't miss the fact that I get into sex with a guy, he expects me to perform in some ways, now he doesn't have that expectation. In fact, quite a few guys find it very arousing that they don't have to have that distraction.

Are there other benefits?

Another thing is, guys who are aroused by my situation are very aroused. I've got some guys who are pursuing me a lot. And they just like this idea, because there's nothing there to be in the way. Face to face fucking is very pleasurable. And when they're doing that I actually wet their stomachs with my fluids. And this one guy, he likes to go down on me. He's a bi guy and he said he does this with his girlfriend so he goes down there and starts licking me. And he just loves that idea. He loves the idea that I have a hairy chest and what is to him a very tiny vagina that he can't fuck but he can lick and he can enjoy being the male role. I've even got a straight guy here in town who likes to fuck me because I don't have any male genitals and he doesn't feel threatened by that.

Are there any downsides?

One of the most obvious cons is I have to sit to pee, or I have to use one of these female urination devices. It's an odd funnel shaped device that you can use if there's only a men's urinal. Also, some times I get urinary tract infections. There's a shorter path to the bladder through what I've got now. So I've got to be very careful and keep it clean. I can't get guy fingering me down there because it's the inside of the urethra so it's sensitive.

Do you ever get "phantom dick" syndrome when you are reaching for it out of habit?

A lot of the nerves are bundled on the base of the penis where most of the sensation comes from. It's not along the length of penis but on the base of the penis is where most of the sensations are. And I wake up in the morning with a feeling that I have a big dick that's erect.

In your experience, what percentage of castrations are done by non-medical professionals? How about penectomies? What are the safety risks for each? Would you say one is more difficult than the other for a layman?

I would above three quarters [by non-medical professionals]. And that number is lower than say twenty years ago. There are not as many today.

Which are not as many?

The amateur cutters. There are a lot of wannabes that are successful that manage to stay below the radar of the authorities because they run into trouble because of their lack of skill. Because if you mess up there are problems there. But if you're very careful in choosing the men you work with so that you have very low risk involved, which is age (you don't do old men), you don't do very overweight men, you don't do men who smoke, who don't take drugs and anything else. If you take these fairly low-risk guys and you do it well, then there won't be any problems. Once these guys get castrated, most of them simply become very private and they don't brag about things. They sort of withdraw from pursuing anything else because they've reached their goal.

So is the the percentage of amateur cutters lower today due to more people with medical training performing castrations?

Yes. They are finding that there is a living in this if they do it among other things.

How about with penectomies? I would imagine (and hope!) there's fewer amateurs performing these.

Almost all of them are done by medical professionals. That's tricky, yeah. More tricky. It's sort of major surgery and it's been done by some amateurs. They're fairly good with their surgical techniques. I was actually at one and the guy did a fairly good job but it took a long time and it was a very involved, very slow process. I've heard of only three or four done by cutters in the past and they have left active participation in this.

When you do a penectomy you have to re-route the urethra, yes?

Yes, what I did with this is I knew where I was going with this in 1999 and I contacted my urologist in Hollywood [Florida], an old guy who was just about to retire and I talked to him very carefully and said "in the future I'm going to want the penis removed". And he said "OK, we can do a urethral relocation in the base of the penis".

So how do things like ejaculation and urination work when you've rerouted the urethra and no longer use the penis for them?

With ejaculation, just before you reach the peak, all the fluid is there at the base of the penis, and right before orgasm happens it's the urethra that acts like a rail gun and expels the semen. So when you don't use the penis, there's no force behind it. It just flows out.

What happens to the body parts after removal?

Quite a few [cutters] collect them. They preserve them, they put them in jars. One guy embedded his in plastic and now it's an ornament somewhere. This typically happens when you're in a master/slave dominant/submissive relationship and the submissive gives up his balls to his partner for keepsake. And then you get into this S&M thing where the dominant partner controls and regulates the libido of the submissive. Especially if the submissive is on say androgel where the turnaround time from full sexiness to limp dick is about on the order of a week. The reaction time for the transdermal is very fast. Whereas the injections wear off after two to three weeks. The half life of the testosterone I'm taking is eight days.

You mentioned consumption of body parts in another interview. Is that for real?

It is for real, yes. Some guys do that. Think about the Testy Festy, where they go there and every year there they have concentration of people who are into eating sheep and bull nuts and rocky mountain oysters. I know a few cutters that don't charge anything for their work, the only charge they have is that they get the nuts afterwards.

Is this something that you've tasted?

Yes, as a matter of fact they do taste a little like chicken. Actually I would have to say they taste as much like chicken as they do roast pork. But it all depends on how you cook them. If you cook them in salted butter then they might be saltier than they might otherwise be.

How do you like them cooked?

I went to a cutter's place and he was having an event where he cut a number of guys and I was assisting him there. And what I did is I cooked them up in some butter with some mushrooms. Quite good with a nice red merlot wine.

Cheers to that, Gelding.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45812548)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 11:20 AM
Author: Snowy Main People Bawdyhouse

Guy is a total douchbag but involuntary manslaughter for effectively “dry” firing a prop gun that he was told wasn’t loaded with live rounds by the dumb bitch armorer? WTF?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45810926)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 11:21 AM
Author: Rebellious Bipolar Garrison Telephone

I’m assuming it’s because he’s the producer and thus assumes general responsibility for the whole thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45810934)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 11:24 AM
Author: Dashing garnet range degenerate

Exactly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45810950)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 11:28 AM
Author: Lemon Diverse Institution

I had read that there are 6 producers on this film, only he was charged of them. So that can’t be it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45810980)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 11:29 AM
Author: Laughsome bistre skinny woman idiot

Not all producers are created equal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45810988)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 11:39 AM
Author: Dashing garnet range degenerate

Comes down to whoever's name is on the line which is dotted. If he signed for the unskilled armorer, it's his ass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811042)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 8:31 PM
Author: racy karate

underrated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45813853)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 11:47 AM
Author: scarlet stag film

That's not true, one of the assistant producers was charged and he plead guilty and got 6 months probation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811097)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 11:47 AM
Author: Snowy Main People Bawdyhouse

So because he may have been responsible for hiring this dumb bitch who was in charge of safety, he’s criminally responsible? WTF? I don’t see how this gets to involuntary manslaughter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811096)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 11:50 AM
Author: Laughsome bistre skinny woman idiot

If he was responsible for hiring this dumb bitch and didn't exercise good judgement by dong a basic amount of due diligence that would have exposed she was wholly unqualified for the role either because he was incompetent or couldn't be bothered, then yeah, I'd say he shares some criminal liability.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811125)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 1:01 PM
Author: Fragrant people who are hurt

that's retarded, for civil liability sure, but this isn't a manslaughter charge for negligent hiring

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811619)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 1:10 PM
Author: Arousing grizzly step-uncle's house

not a lawyer but this sounds highly retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811680)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 3:31 PM
Author: Wonderful Stead Laser Beams



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45812555)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 2:42 PM
Author: walnut filthy son of senegal

NM statue seems to include his behavior. Accidental death resulting from a lack of circumspection.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45812269)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 11:21 AM
Author: Sepia Market

cr you’re not gonna find 12 to convict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45810935)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 11:26 AM
Author: red regret

"I Still Unload": This Man Is a "Nullo" Who Removed His Penis and Balls

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Simon Davis

10/16/14 11:10AM

Filed to: INTERVIEWS

In 1994, a South Florida man who goes by the name Gelding was surgically castrated. In 2011, he had his penis removed as well. He's a "nullo": A cisgender man who removes his external genitalia completely as a form of body modification, and he recently agreed to answer our questions—from "why?" to "what do balls taste like?"

Gelding is a nudist and describes himself as a submissive bear. Apart from his desire to use a pseudonym, he let it all hang out (so to speak) when I reached out to him and graciously answered every question I had.

Is nullo your preferred term to describe yourself and others like you who are castrated and have removed their penis?

Yes, the reason that we use that it is not transgender. It's simply nullification of what you've got. A friend of mine Mack in San Francisco likes to use the term "mascunull", because I remain as masculine as they come with fur and so forth. But I no longer have the parts.

What are some misconceptions people have about nullos?

A few men don't know their own physiology to the point where they think if they lose their balls they can't come any more. And that's false. If you look at the physiology you see that the fluids are made by the seminal vesicles and the prostate. Very little of the fluid and the content is produced in the testes. I still unload.

But the active ingredient for impregnating someone isn't there.

Right.

Do you get a lot of people who think you're trying to become a woman?

Absolutely. And it's mostly the medical profession who sees the sexes as either male or female. And anyone who wants to alter any part of that is in some way suffering from gender dysphoria. They don't like themselves for some reason and they want to change gender. And that's absolutely false.

It's not a dysphoria. I see it in the positive way of working toward something, rather than away from something. Many of the guys instead of putting a negative feel on it see it as a positive. Being castrated is a positive to them. Rather than removing something that they dislike, they are moving in the direction that they want. I went through a long set of psychological evaluation sessions with a psychologist here in town, because that was necessary in order to have the penis removed.

You've previously discussed your 1994 castration. However, I didn't find anything on your penis removal in 2011. Can you talk about that?

I knew I was uncomfortable in having frankly large male parts. I would quite often sit on my own balls because they were loose unless I wore something tight and held them in I would sit on them and squash them. That got me into trouble playing soccer in college when they forced us to wear these hard plastic cups. What happened was I fell on a guy's upright knee with the weight of another player behind me, so two of us fell on the knee. The knee happened to hit the middle of the plastic cup and imploded and tore me up. I was severely injured.

The doctor saved everything but over a period of time the nerves gave me some problems and I had aches in my testicles all the time. When I was in the military service they tried doing a varicose vein removal but that didn't help, it just made matters worse. They thought I was suffering from varicose veins. So after leaving the service I had them removed. And that removed that little problem but I still had the nerve sensations in the penis which woke me up at night. So I could get erect, but it was painful.

So I talked with my urologist and he said the only treatment for that was to make it numb, which is very dangerous because if you make something like that numb then you don't know if it's infected for some reason. Or remove it, but to do that he needs to cover his ass and asked for a psychological evaluation. And my own doctor is a professor at Nova Southeastern University here in. She is the most brilliant doctor I've ever met. So, I asked her about this problem and she was very forthright and said "well, we'll have to treat you". She didn't consider it something that was wrong with me, she said "we have to investigate." I went to see a psychiatrist and he spent a good 90 minutes with me and said "yes, I have just the person that can work with you." So the psychologist did a battery of personality tests and said "you're perfectly fine, your only problem is that you've got these physical problems which work on your nerves." And I said "yeah." And he said "it also works with your personality" because I'm a gay submissive and I always have been and it wasn't working right. So in order to to fix it I worked toward a goal of having things removed. And that was it. I'm working in a positive way to solve my own personal problem.

But was castration something you were contemplating prior to the injury?

Yes. For whatever reason I was always embarrassed by the size of what I had. It didn't fit my personality.

Do you remember when you the fantasy to remove your testicles first occurred?

I had a baby face in high school, there was one of these bullies and he said "you have a man's equipment but you're still a boy" and he squeezed my balls in the shower. He was on the football team, I was on the soccer team showering together and he said "you shouldn't have such big equipment" so he squeezed my balls and at that point it was just a fantasy for me. So how about getting rid of them for some reason?

When did it go from fantasy to aspiration?

It became a fetish thing where I would do sort of more self destructive things with them like putting rubber bands around them and needles through the balls and whatnot. It's a progression which a lot of guys go through. It's something that works on them and they say "Well, how about if we just have them off? Then I won't be bothered by this constant urge to hurt them". And this is where a psychologist gets into the dysphoria. It's very difficult to distinguish whether it's a dislike for something or instead you're working towards something else. I always thought when I was on the beach—I was also on the swim team—and we had Speedos, it was difficult to pack everything in frankly. I would be embarrassed and everybody was looking and here I am and I've got the biggest package and I'm not the biggest guy and I got a whole lot of looks from everybody.

I had a big dick, it got damaged and I was a bottom. I didn't want to use it, I got pushed into using it, I had to take all sorts of medications and was tired of being somebody else's tool.

Broadly speaking, how can someone know that being a nullo is something they actually want to go through with as opposed to something they fantasize about?

That's something really for a psychologist to answer, but in talking to all the guys that I've been talking with, they try to come up with all sorts of different rationalizations to justify it. In my case, my medical situation really didn't justify it because I was just uncomfortable with what I had. It wasn't medically necessary. But I felt that I would be much more comfortable having the issues of having the sensation but not being able to use it well. It was something like a guy having a useless appendage and it's something he has to carry around, and it becomes baggage after a while.

If someone starts/botches the process on their own, what would you recommend they do? Should people use a cover story to avoid getting in trouble?

No. Go to the emergency room. Today, they have been exposed to a lot more of the literature out there than they were 20 years ago. They're not going to be institutionalized. I mean years ago they used to institutionalize guys that were gay.

How would you say the breakdown is between gay and straight men for nullos?

I would have to say it's mostly gays. I don't know of a straight guy who became a nullo.

You had said in a previous interview that for castrations it's about a two to one for gay to straight men that decide to do it.

I've heard of a couple of straight guys who decided that they were making too many babies so they had their balls off so they could take testosterone and continue. I know quite a few bodybuilders both gay and straight whose testes have shrunk because of the steroids they are taking which are bad for their health. So they got castrated and now they're on medically injected testosterone which is good for them. It's not as harmful as oral steroids are or some of the other shit that they're pumping into themselves.

How would you recommend people do their penectomy and castration?

In the last couple of years, my friend Mack from San Francisco ran into Dr. Crane from Brownstein & Crane and he met him, and I don't know how the two of them had the discussion, and then I had a phone interview with Dr. Crane and I explained my situation with him and now Dr. Crane is no longer doing just transgender type of procedures but [also] genital modifications.

So in a way, you educated him.

The protocol that the doctors use for transgender people is called the Harry Benjamin protocol. So for example Dr. Reed in Miami, before you go to his clinic you have to take female hormones for six months and show some development of breasts and whatnot, some feminine characteristics before he will deal with you. And why do that when you simply want to get the genitals removed?

If anything, wouldn't additional testosterone be what you'd need after castration?

Men who get castrated, they do get depressed if they don't start fairly right away on testosterone. Because the falling hormone causes hot flashes first of all, and then the loss of libido. You lose all interest in sex and everything else.

Are there any changes that occur to the body as a result?

Body changes are minimal really. If you lose your balls, you won't lose all your hair.

What about voice? Is that a myth?

Voice doesn't change, no. The larynx is a hard tissue, and the voice box and everything else is a hard tissue. But the timbre of your voice is a factor of the larynx. I sang in the college choir, I know about these things.

One thing I noticed while reading testimonials is that many people seem to try their hand at castration and penectomy but then go to the doctor only if it goes wrong. How much of this would you say is due to the medical profession's reluctance to remove healthy body parts and how much is due to people's general fear of discussing this type of thing with their doctor or therapist?

You know about the Hippocratic oath right? "First do no harm". They have to be convinced that what they are doing is in fact an improvement on your health. Which is why the surgeon is requesting a psychological evaluation. And the psychologist comes back and says "yeah, he's going to be uncomfortable where he is, he's going to be more improved, better mood, better this, better that" and so forth. So from a totality point of view, it's going to get better after he gets modified.

And let me tell you my mood has improved dramatically since going nullo. I don't miss the baggage. I don't miss the fact that I get into sex with a guy, he expects me to perform in some ways, now he doesn't have that expectation. In fact, quite a few guys find it very arousing that they don't have to have that distraction.

Are there other benefits?

Another thing is, guys who are aroused by my situation are very aroused. I've got some guys who are pursuing me a lot. And they just like this idea, because there's nothing there to be in the way. Face to face fucking is very pleasurable. And when they're doing that I actually wet their stomachs with my fluids. And this one guy, he likes to go down on me. He's a bi guy and he said he does this with his girlfriend so he goes down there and starts licking me. And he just loves that idea. He loves the idea that I have a hairy chest and what is to him a very tiny vagina that he can't fuck but he can lick and he can enjoy being the male role. I've even got a straight guy here in town who likes to fuck me because I don't have any male genitals and he doesn't feel threatened by that.

Are there any downsides?

One of the most obvious cons is I have to sit to pee, or I have to use one of these female urination devices. It's an odd funnel shaped device that you can use if there's only a men's urinal. Also, some times I get urinary tract infections. There's a shorter path to the bladder through what I've got now. So I've got to be very careful and keep it clean. I can't get guy fingering me down there because it's the inside of the urethra so it's sensitive.

Do you ever get "phantom dick" syndrome when you are reaching for it out of habit?

A lot of the nerves are bundled on the base of the penis where most of the sensation comes from. It's not along the length of penis but on the base of the penis is where most of the sensations are. And I wake up in the morning with a feeling that I have a big dick that's erect.

In your experience, what percentage of castrations are done by non-medical professionals? How about penectomies? What are the safety risks for each? Would you say one is more difficult than the other for a layman?

I would above three quarters [by non-medical professionals]. And that number is lower than say twenty years ago. There are not as many today.

Which are not as many?

The amateur cutters. There are a lot of wannabes that are successful that manage to stay below the radar of the authorities because they run into trouble because of their lack of skill. Because if you mess up there are problems there. But if you're very careful in choosing the men you work with so that you have very low risk involved, which is age (you don't do old men), you don't do very overweight men, you don't do men who smoke, who don't take drugs and anything else. If you take these fairly low-risk guys and you do it well, then there won't be any problems. Once these guys get castrated, most of them simply become very private and they don't brag about things. They sort of withdraw from pursuing anything else because they've reached their goal.

So is the the percentage of amateur cutters lower today due to more people with medical training performing castrations?

Yes. They are finding that there is a living in this if they do it among other things.

How about with penectomies? I would imagine (and hope!) there's fewer amateurs performing these.

Almost all of them are done by medical professionals. That's tricky, yeah. More tricky. It's sort of major surgery and it's been done by some amateurs. They're fairly good with their surgical techniques. I was actually at one and the guy did a fairly good job but it took a long time and it was a very involved, very slow process. I've heard of only three or four done by cutters in the past and they have left active participation in this.

When you do a penectomy you have to re-route the urethra, yes?

Yes, what I did with this is I knew where I was going with this in 1999 and I contacted my urologist in Hollywood [Florida], an old guy who was just about to retire and I talked to him very carefully and said "in the future I'm going to want the penis removed". And he said "OK, we can do a urethral relocation in the base of the penis".

So how do things like ejaculation and urination work when you've rerouted the urethra and no longer use the penis for them?

With ejaculation, just before you reach the peak, all the fluid is there at the base of the penis, and right before orgasm happens it's the urethra that acts like a rail gun and expels the semen. So when you don't use the penis, there's no force behind it. It just flows out.

What happens to the body parts after removal?

Quite a few [cutters] collect them. They preserve them, they put them in jars. One guy embedded his in plastic and now it's an ornament somewhere. This typically happens when you're in a master/slave dominant/submissive relationship and the submissive gives up his balls to his partner for keepsake. And then you get into this S&M thing where the dominant partner controls and regulates the libido of the submissive. Especially if the submissive is on say androgel where the turnaround time from full sexiness to limp dick is about on the order of a week. The reaction time for the transdermal is very fast. Whereas the injections wear off after two to three weeks. The half life of the testosterone I'm taking is eight days.

You mentioned consumption of body parts in another interview. Is that for real?

It is for real, yes. Some guys do that. Think about the Testy Festy, where they go there and every year there they have concentration of people who are into eating sheep and bull nuts and rocky mountain oysters. I know a few cutters that don't charge anything for their work, the only charge they have is that they get the nuts afterwards.

Is this something that you've tasted?

Yes, as a matter of fact they do taste a little like chicken. Actually I would have to say they taste as much like chicken as they do roast pork. But it all depends on how you cook them. If you cook them in salted butter then they might be saltier than they might otherwise be.

How do you like them cooked?

I went to a cutter's place and he was having an event where he cut a number of guys and I was assisting him there. And what I did is I cooked them up in some butter with some mushrooms. Quite good with a nice red merlot wine.

Cheers to that, Gelding.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45810963)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 11:22 AM
Author: Vermilion field ape

counterpoint: he voted for this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45810938)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 11:23 AM
Author: mahogany university

(guy who doesn’t believe in accountability)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45810948)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 11:25 AM
Author: vibrant really tough guy

Just do claim you thought the gun was unloaded. One weird trick!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45810958)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 10:47 PM
Author: hyperactive site cuckold

That’s what I told the cops. They didn’t buy it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45814494)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 11:26 AM
Author: Lemon Diverse Institution

I had read that there are safety rules that an actor should not be pulling the trigger directly aimed at a crew member, that it always needs to be done slightly off-center so something like this just can’t happen. Another safety measure broken

Don’t know if true or not

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45810968)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 11:27 AM
Author: mahogany university

and that’s if it’s during a scene

if you’re just going through the motions for practice you shouldn’t be pointing any weapon at anybody at anytime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45810978)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 11:28 AM
Author: Lemon Diverse Institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45810985)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 11:40 AM
Author: Dashing garnet range degenerate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811043)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 11:41 AM
Author: blue aphrodisiac school stain



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811054)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 11:45 AM
Author: Chestnut crotch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811087)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 12:18 PM
Author: Yellow yarmulke dog poop

Film production: just one more area of XO’s never ending expertise

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811287)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 12:21 PM
Author: mahogany university

gun handling rules don’t just go away cuz some purple haired libs are recording shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811303)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 12:24 PM
Author: Vermilion field ape

"you should avoid pointing real guns at people as much as possible"

"OMG THE FUCKING ARMCHAIR QB EXPERTS ON XO PIPING UP ONCE AGAIN!!!1"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811323)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 12:24 PM
Author: mahogany university



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811327)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 12:28 PM
Author: Lemon Diverse Institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811346)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 12:28 PM
Author: Chestnut crotch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811348)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 12:28 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring olive cuckoldry filthpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811355)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 1:09 PM
Author: red regret



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811675)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 1:21 PM
Author: wild adulterous sex offender



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811758)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 1:49 PM
Author: Glassy antidepressant drug legend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811958)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 10:45 PM
Author: Fuchsia new version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45814478)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 1:20 PM
Author: wild adulterous sex offender

Oh yeah let's defer to the safety protocols of the pack of retards who murdered a girl on set and are now criminally charged for doing so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811756)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 11:30 AM
Author: Chestnut crotch

He only needed to follow 3 of the 4 rules of firearm safety and that bitch would still be alive.

https://www.nssf.org/articles/4-primary-rules-of-firearm-safety/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811005)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 2:41 PM
Author: walnut filthy son of senegal

NM statute reads as follows:

>Involuntary manslaughter consists of manslaughter committed in the commission of an unlawful act not amounting to felony, or in the commission of a lawful act [which] that might produce death in an unlawful manner or without due caution and circumspection.

(manslaughter is just "the unlawful killing of a human being without malice.")

So yeah, sounds like he committed involuntary manslaughter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45812265)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 10:51 PM
Author: Cobalt dragon

You have the wrong clause. It’s second clause at play: causing death with lack of due caution and circumception.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45814532)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 11:49 AM
Author: scarlet stag film

Can someone explain the second involuntary manslaughter charge? One is they just have to prove negligence. The other, more serious charge with a 5 year minimum I don't understand what they have to prove. It said firearm enhancement?

Wtf is involuntary manslaughter in the commission of a lawful act

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811116)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 2:43 PM
Author: walnut filthy son of senegal

>Wtf is involuntary manslaughter in the commission of a lawful act

when your lawful act results in a death due to a lack of circumspection

here in TX there is only manslaughter, no distinction between voluntary and involuntary, and only requires "recklessness"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45812275)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 4:09 PM
Author: scarlet stag film

Afaik in Texas they have fewer distinctions in the law but a lot more leeway in the sentencing. You'll see a dude get two years for murder because he ran over a guy after a bar fight. So yes it's murder but the sentencing varies widely.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45812754)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 12:01 PM
Author: mahogany university

judging by these videos it seems those charged spoke way too much to the police without having a lawyer

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/19/arts/rust-shooting-charges-alec-baldwin.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811183)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 12:03 PM
Author: Godawful galvanic national

what did he do that makes him potentially criminally liable?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811192)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 12:05 PM
Author: mahogany university

he pointed a weapon at a human and pulled the trigger

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811205)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 12:07 PM
Author: Godawful galvanic national

isn't it reasonable to assume that it was loaded with a blank? maybe not, and you should assume that something could come flying out of the gun. was this actually a live round or some random piece of shrapnel?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811217)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 12:09 PM
Author: Chestnut crotch

You don't fucking point guns at people. Anyone who is trained knows that even if you know for a fact that your gun is unloaded, you don't fucking do it. It's fundamental.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811230)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 12:16 PM
Author: abusive bronze haunted graveyard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811276)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 1:08 PM
Author: Fragrant people who are hurt

dood, there are tons of guns being pointed at people on film, there are guns being put to peoples' heads on film

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811666)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 1:24 PM
Author: Chestnut crotch

Not operational ones unless your armorer is a retard like this one was.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811781)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 1:50 PM
Author: Marvelous hospital trump supporter

The fucking point is that an actor used a prop.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811967)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 2:05 PM
Author: Chestnut crotch

A prop gun that was actually a real gun that fired real bullets.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45812059)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 1:54 PM
Author: Marvelous hospital trump supporter

Wait what, this wasn't during a scene? Per ggtp below.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811996)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 12:11 PM
Author: Vermilion field ape

live round.

the has been under investigation by the DA for a while. one producers already plead guilty. it's reasonable to assume there are some facts the public isn't aware of yet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811245)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 12:10 PM
Author: Vermilion field ape

DAs are pretty reluctant to charge high profile people without solid evidence. i assume there are some facts we don't know about. if baldwin was responsible for a lot of the organization (very likely considering he's top producer and lead actor), and was criminally negligent in hiring gun people and ensuring guns safety was properly supervised, he could certainly be found guilty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811235)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 12:12 PM
Author: Godawful galvanic national

and he's a rancid shitlib so if he got charged it sounds to me like there is a good case against him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811246)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 12:14 PM
Author: Vermilion field ape

it's an az and this is the da's website (lol): https://www.1stjda.com/

i wouldn't put it past some reptile da to charge a famous shitlib for clout. who knows?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811253)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 12:17 PM
Author: Floppy selfie

Mary lives in Santa Fe with her wife Jo, a retired law enforcement officer, and their two energetic young children.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811284)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 12:23 PM
Author: Vermilion field ape

lmfao just assumed she was a con. her being a dyke definitely cuts against baldwin being charged for political reasons.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811315)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 12:28 PM
Author: Godawful galvanic national

imagine pulling alec baldwin aside on the set of beetlejuice and saying "hey, so when you're in your 60s, not too long after Donald Trump's presidential term ends (you did a great impression of him on SNL by the way), you're going to be charged for manslaughter by a lesbian DA in Arizona (oh and the DA is legally married to a woman)."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811352)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 12:32 PM
Author: Vermilion field ape



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811384)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 12:53 PM
Author: Floppy selfie



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811555)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 12:54 PM
Author: Lemon Diverse Institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811562)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 12:55 PM
Author: Chestnut crotch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811565)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 1:06 PM
Author: crimson tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811653)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 1:08 PM
Author: curious heaven trust fund



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811663)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 2:11 PM
Author: ruddy beady-eyed pervert



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45812076)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 2:43 PM
Author: Cerise rigpig

He voted for this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45812272)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 12:31 PM
Author: Sadistic Spot Internal Respiration

You saw her haircut and thought con? That’s a bigger dyke siren than the flashing sirens on her web homepage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811374)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 12:32 PM
Author: Vermilion field ape

seems like a lot of southern reptile older ladies sport that dyke cut.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811380)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 2:20 PM
Author: scarlet stag film

Majority of female law enforcement and DAs are all lesbians

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45812123)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 2:28 PM
Author: ruddy beady-eyed pervert

dykes are very conservative on occasion. it's testosterone

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45812172)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 1:09 PM
Author: contagious halford

NM, not AZ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811672)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 2:44 PM
Author: walnut filthy son of senegal

NM not AZ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45812287)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 2:43 PM
Author: walnut filthy son of senegal

he hired someone to be in charge of weapons whom he should have known was incompetent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45812281)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 1:00 PM
Author: Irradiated chad goal in life

I don’t get the con angle on this. You think he killed her On Purpose and lied? Every single Film with guns has people pointing guns at each other and pulling the trigger.

Or you think he’s a retard who sucks at making Films? Because both of those things are true imho.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811612)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 1:22 PM
Author: Swashbuckling fanboi ladyboy

the fucking morons were using these guns to shoot tin cans with live rounds between scenes. the risk was off the charts. no reasonable person would have done what he did.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811767)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 3:10 PM
Author: Irradiated chad goal in life

It’s not clear that he knew wtf was going on. Libs are scared of guns and so he would’ve delegated the Armory to that Woman.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45812445)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 10:53 PM
Author: hyperactive site cuckold

The question I have is why are shitlibs making movies glorifying guns? Guns are evil as fuck and self animate all the time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45814542)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 1:48 PM
Author: wild adulterous sex offender

EVERY film with guns has someone blown away irl, leaving behind a grieving family? Jeez. You're right, this wasn't unusual.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811954)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 3:07 PM
Author: Irradiated chad goal in life

It’s because the armorer was a Woman. This is an indictment of Women, and Libs. But it seems like shitcons want to stretch that to make Baldwin a Premeditated Murderer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45812427)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 10:54 PM
Author: hyperactive site cuckold

Oh, I wouldn’t let male libs off the hook. Hence fuck Alec Baldwin

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45814552)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 1:06 PM
Author: Green boyish organic girlfriend

B. Involuntary manslaughter consists of manslaughter committed in the commission of an unlawful act not amounting to felony, or in the commission of a lawful act which might produce death in an unlawful manner or without due caution and circumspection.

Let's see, this was a budget movie that tried to scrimp and save where it could, including hiring an inexperienced armorer who everyone says was acting irresponsibly on the set (why the fuck were live rounds even there?). Baldwin didn't follow basic gun safety rules (don't point your gun at something you don't want to destroy, don't pull the trigger, don't inspect the gun before handling, etc.). Baldwin was co-writer, producer, and star in this budget flick, he probably hired the unskilled armorer. Etc.

Fucker should go down.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811650)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 1:16 PM
Author: Vivacious Queen Of The Night Location

Inexperienced armorer / producer point I get, but is it reasonable to extend gun safety standards to a movie set where characters are using guns? Do we want every movie showing the good guys and bad guys pointing off into space with their index fingers held straight?

Maybe it was lib cope but I thought the post-Crow rules were basically that the armorers handle every aspect of the guns, the actors don't do shit to fuck with them and do exactly what they are told.

i own a fuckton of guns and am autistic about safety when I take people out with them, but i don't really see how you abide by the letter of gun safety and make a movie. Doubt every film ever was using forced perspective or CGI to make things look more real

on the other hand, fuck Alec Baldwin

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811724)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 1:19 PM
Author: Green boyish organic girlfriend

All it would take, imo, is one witness to say that Baldwin knew/was told the armorer was inexperienced/fucking around and/or there were live rounds on set (maybe they were shooting beer cans in the desert the night before) and he's DONE HERE.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811740)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 1:20 PM
Author: Floppy selfie

Can someone explain to me like im 5 why actual guns are used on film sets?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811750)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 1:22 PM
Author: Fragrant people who are hurt

to fire a blank you need a functional firearm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811762)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 4:05 PM
Author: Floppy selfie

Why do you need to fire a blank in this era of CGI?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45812726)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 4:55 PM
Author: Fragrant people who are hurt

because it produces recoil and operates the slide, otherwise the actor is just going "pew pew"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45812933)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 1:23 PM
Author: mahogany university

weird take

gun safety is paramount, so if it takes Hollywood going back to little flags popping out of guns in place of flashes and bangs then that’s what they have to do. or they need to invest in the people and procedures to make it reasonably safe to use functioning weapons and blanks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811772)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 1:52 PM
Author: Glassy antidepressant drug legend

as far as i know, he wasnt shooting a scene or anything, he was just dicking around with the gun and for some reason pointed it at the lady and shot. it's absolutely reckless behavior. it would be different situation if this was part of the scene, but it wasn't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811983)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 1:55 PM
Author: Marvelous hospital trump supporter

What is this true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811999)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 1:59 PM
Author: Godawful galvanic national

i thought they were preparing for the scene or maybe rehearsing but yea not filming

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45812029)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 1:59 PM
Author: Glassy antidepressant drug legend

"At the time, the actor was practicing how to draw a revolver and point it at the camera. When the gun fired, a bullet struck and killed cinematographer Halyna Hutchins as well as injured the movie's director, Joel Souza."

https://www.npr.org/2022/08/15/1117577604/alec-baldwin-fbi-report-movie-shooting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45812030)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 2:02 PM
Author: Lemon Diverse Institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45812045)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 2:06 PM
Author: Green boyish organic girlfriend

This is why he's been arguing since the beginning that he never pulled the trigger to begin with, which is obviously bullshit. He obviously pulled the trigger while practicing, which is throwing caution to the wind given the totality of the circumstances on set.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45812064)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 2:17 PM
Author: scarlet stag film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45812103)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 2:16 PM
Author: scarlet stag film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45812094)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 4:08 PM
Author: Marvelous hospital trump supporter

that's rehearsal. This is all bullshit. Stop making it sound Lee he grabbed a random gun and shot someone. Mase us ultra retarded itt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45812751)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 2:00 PM
Author: wild adulterous sex offender

CR it would unworkable if we CRIMINALLY PROSECUTED every person who pointed a firearm at another person and deliberately pulled the trigger, causing the second person's death.

This would produce a MULTITUDE of criminal prosecutions. Well, one (1) this millennium. But think of the PERVERSE INCENTIVES it would create to, uh, not kill people.

Why is everyone acting like actors are LITERAL RETARDS incapable of clearing their own weapons such that they can't be held fucking liable for, wait for it: pointing a gun loaded with live ammunition at another person and deliberately pulling the trigger, causing that person's death?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45812039)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 2:12 PM
Author: ruddy beady-eyed pervert



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45812078)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 2:18 PM
Author: scarlet stag film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45812106)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 3:01 PM
Author: Vivacious Queen Of The Night Location

We've only had one death post Brandon Lee because the previous system worked pretty well given an activity that requries frequently pointing a gun loaded with blanks at actual people and firing. It was the armorer's fault. Insofar as Baldwin was responsible it was due to his involvment on the hiring / production side

if a random craigslist bit actor killed the chick in the same circumstances charges would be ridiculous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45812393)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 3:50 PM
Author: wild adulterous sex offender

Get up off your knees and wipe the joojizz off your chin: we don't defer to the "industry standards" of retards, particularly as they contradict such fundamental principles as "pointing a gun at someone and pulling the trigger renders you responsible for what happens to them". If a cartel member put someone on their knees and pulled the trigger and then argued that it was his cartel superior who loaded up the weapons and got to decide which executions were mock and which were real, and thus the triggerman shouldn't be criminally responsible at all, we would not accept that answer. (To be fair, this cartel guy may have some type of duress-based defense or mitigation available to him, whereas the actor who gets fired/disciplined for conducting his own safety double-check of his stage weapon has such obvious protections that this claim would be laughable. What's Alec's excuse? "It would be awkward to second-guess the woman who handed the gun to me"? "What so I have to spend 6-10 seconds checking my gun EVERY TIME I want to point it at someone and pull the trigger!?"?)

Yes, this will mean that actors have to take some personal responsibility on the set and not just defer to David Finkelstein about whether it's "safe" to point a fully functional Glock 19 at Glenda Goyim's head and pull the trigger. Lucky for them, this is the exact same responsibility that everyone who uses a gun takes on, with 99.9% of them handling it with a perfect success rate. If you think this will deter actors from taking gun roles or producers from including guns in their scripts (N.B.: it won't), guess that's tough shit and a rational market response to a reasonable allocation of responsibility (namely, "he who points a loaded gun at another person and deliberately pulls the trigger, killing that person, is liable for the death of that person" -- cutting-edge shit here).

Live rounds do not look like blanks to anyone with functioning eyeballs, and if there aren't OVERWHELMINGLY CLEAR TO EVERYONE redundancies in the other safety features in place to prevent a live round from making its way into a gun (designated storage, individualized stage packaging, further marking of blanks to indicate usability on set, etc.), then it's your responsibility to check the gun, or say "hey is this safe? can you re-check?" etc. "That's EVERYONE'S responsibility on set?," you ask! No, not really; it's a strict liability system for anyone who is going to point a firearm at another person and pull the trigger.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45812637)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 1:18 PM
Author: mahogany university

I feel like it’s not hard in AZ to find some old crusty gun nut who would do the armored work for cheap. they probably hired this purple haired loser fat bitch due to nepotism or because she looked like a shitlib and they want to EMPOWER bitches like that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811735)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 1:18 PM
Author: Vivacious Queen Of The Night Location

it literally was pure nepotism wasn't it? Like her dad was a famous movie armorer or something

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811738)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 1:21 PM
Author: mahogany university

ah yeah I do remember something like that

well, I hope he’s proud of himself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811757)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 2:18 PM
Author: scarlet stag film

He's dead

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45812110)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 4:41 PM
Author: mahogany university

lucky him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45812896)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 1:21 PM
Author: Titillating Church

Board Trumpenprole: WE LOVE GUN SAFETY LAWS NOW!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811760)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 1:24 PM
Author: mahogany university

?

we love are gun safety, folks

we don’t like libs taking are guns away while letting buck wild criminals run wild

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811783)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 1:29 PM
Author: Vermilion field ape

very few cons oppose common sense gun safety shit that is not just an avenue for libs restricting gun ownership.

of course, libs try to forcememe every single gun law as being about "gun safety"

"OH, NOW YOU CONS ARE ALL ABOUT GUN SAFETY! BUT YOU DIDN'T LIKE IT WHEN WE TRIED TO BAN EVERYTHING BUT BLOCK POWDER RIFLES! PWNED!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811819)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 1:27 PM
Author: Vermilion field ape

cons tend to be autistic about gun safety. it's only when some unqualified lib shrew is in charge of guns that people's heads get blown off. odd case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811797)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 1:31 PM
Author: Chestnut crotch

Go to a packed range full of rednecks, start flagging people and you'll quickly see how much Trumpenproles love gun safety.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811832)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 1:32 PM
Author: Green boyish organic girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811836)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 2:12 PM
Author: ruddy beady-eyed pervert



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45812079)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 2:15 PM
Author: Lemon Diverse Institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45812092)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 2:45 PM
Author: Cerise rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45812297)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 1:34 PM
Author: red regret

are you actually retarded? yes, "trumpenprole" who own guns do take gun safety very seriously.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811855)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 1:40 PM
Author: Magical massive native

Explain that to all the people Trumptards shoot in Chicago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45811901)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 2:48 PM
Author: Cerise rigpig

That quotemo firing a gun:

https://images.app.goo.gl/Yzemfuf7eRuNqR2h9

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45812315)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 2:43 PM
Author: rusted territorial windowlicker

he won't plead he'll just go to trial and drag the armory

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45812276)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 2:44 PM
Author: Dashing garnet range degenerate

He HIRED the unqualified scab armory, that's why he's being charged

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45812292)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 4:54 PM
Author: Maroon Locale

he didn't even touch the trigger

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45812931)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 8:07 PM
Author: wine striped hyena

Unless there is more to the story, this prosecution is dumb as hell.

There was someone whose job it was to provide him with guns it was safe to use during a movie.

Even the hiring negligence is stupid. The chick had all the proper training or whatever and her dad was a legend. You're hiring someone to just not put live bullets in a gun. Let's stop acting like he was screening neurosurgeons.

The chick monumentally fucked up and should be charged.

Anyone who acts like if they were an actor on a movie set and were given a gun by a professional they were told was just a prop, and they would still abide by all the gun safety rules is a fucking idiot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45813728)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 8:16 PM
Author: wild adulterous sex offender

Thanks for the insight, gook.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45813792)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 10:25 PM
Author: scarlet stag film

Not criminal negligence, duck sauce tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45814358)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 8:25 PM
Author: Snowy Main People Bawdyhouse

This. We are now holding ppl criminally liable because they were mislead about the qualifications of a licensed safety expert? This is ridiculous.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45813833)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 9:21 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring olive cuckoldry filthpig

*hires retard to be in charge of not putting bullets in ur guns*

*retard shoots cans with ur guns for funsies, nothing is done about it*

*retard gives u gun*

*points gun at coworker, pulls trigger*

ur honor i maintain that any reasonable person would’ve acted as i did in that situation, tbh don’t know what i could’ve done differently at any point in that chain of events

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45814050)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 10:26 PM
Author: scarlet stag film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45814364)



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Date: January 20th, 2023 12:15 AM
Author: Cobalt dragon

At most it’s a “misdemeanor murder” type offense and he will get probation or a month in jail maybe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45814911)



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Date: January 19th, 2023 9:41 PM
Author: Green boyish organic girlfriend

The guns aren't fucking props, you fucking idiot. They're real guns. Why would you need a fucking armorer if it's a toy gun? They use real guns and need armorers on set for REALISM and b/c only real guns can shoot off blanks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45814132)



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Date: January 20th, 2023 1:26 AM
Author: Cobalt dragon

Nobody argues it wasn’t stupid of dumb but that’s generally not enough for manslaughter in most states. You have to prove some sort of knowing recklessness, like he knew the gun was loaded but was waiving it around anyways. The prosecution would have to prove this knowledge beyond a reasonable doubt. That’s a tough burden.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45815103)



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Date: January 21st, 2023 12:30 AM
Author: Maroon Locale

i think baldwin is a piece of shit, but i agree

unless there was some possible reason baldwin should have known the gun could have actual ammo in it, there is no reason he should treat a gun on a movie set to be loaded under these circumstances

and the piece of shit doesn't go with this argument, but the 'i never pulled the trigger' argument. he almost deserves to lose on that alone



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45819403)



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Date: January 20th, 2023 2:56 AM
Author: Claret Pisswyrm

Is there some reason toy guns can’t be made for Hollywood use?

They add sound effects for pretty much every little thing in a film. Car chases, doors closing, anything really. Why not for a gun shot?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45815200)



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Date: January 20th, 2023 11:25 AM
Author: Fragrant people who are hurt

they do add the sound, but the flash and reciprocating the slide requires a blank

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45815993)



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Date: January 20th, 2023 11:21 AM
Author: light kitchen volcanic crater

I have a blue laser Glock and I would never even point that at someone

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5273533&forum_id=2#45815968)