US News aside, what are the real top 10 schools for undergrad?
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Date: January 24th, 2023 12:56 PM Author: Cutty Ranks
I would say something like
HYPMS
Caltech
Columbia/Penn/Dartmouth
Chicago in 10th?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5276900&forum_id=2#45834906) |
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Date: January 24th, 2023 1:07 PM Author: ,..,,,,,,....,,,...,
MIT is much larger and people interested in prestige have an East Coast bias. So most of us know a couple super smart MIT alums and no Caltech alums. We’re not parsing Math Olympiad results and levels of NASA achievement to make fine gradations, just going by reputation and direct experience.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5276900&forum_id=2#45834960) |
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Date: January 24th, 2023 1:35 PM
Author: .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,...
Also, there is this:
https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Massachusetts+Institute+of+Technology&with=Caltech
This is a 180 site for college rankings, by the way. Someone should make a ranking purely on the basis of who wins cross admit battles, because feel like the wisdom of the masses is better than anything USNWR or anyone else has come up with.
Based on a few minutes of playing with it, it looks like the top five schools are the following:
1) H (wins every cross admit battle)
2) S (wins against every school except H)
3) M (wins against everyone except H and S)
4) Y (wins against everyone except H, S, and M)
5) P (wins against everyone except H, S, M, and Y)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5276900&forum_id=2#45835109) |
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Date: January 24th, 2023 2:10 PM
Author: .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,...
Sorry to break this to you, but if the numbers are in gray, then the difference is not statistically significant. I didn't bother to check LAC's, but assuming you didn't attend a prestigious LAC, it's probably because there were like five cross admits and only two of them chose MIT.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5276900&forum_id=2#45835319) |
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Date: January 25th, 2023 9:09 AM Author: rickpanama
it's for brown lib arts fags to spend a grad year at so they can try and transition to 'tech'
case in point
https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmurthy/
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5276900&forum_id=2#45838733) |
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Date: January 24th, 2023 1:38 PM
Author: .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,...
Even more egregious Columbia trolling. After correcting their falsified USNWR data, they were revealed to be a TTT in steep decline.
Also, xoxo is clearly slipping because nobody has pointed out that you need to distinguish between Wharton Penn and non-Wharton Penn. Wharton Penn is arguably the most prestigious undergraduate outside of HYPS. Non-Wharton Penn is just a standard Big Ten school with a mediocre football team.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5276900&forum_id=2#45835127) |
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Date: January 24th, 2023 11:34 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,,,...,,..,,..,,..,,.,.,,..,
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5276900&forum_id=2#45837834) |
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Date: January 24th, 2023 1:47 PM
Author: .,.,.,...,,,,..,.,.,..,...,
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5276900&forum_id=2#45835186) |
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Date: January 24th, 2023 7:03 PM
Author: ..,...,.,.,..,..,.,...,,.,..,...
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5276900&forum_id=2#45836696) |
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Date: January 25th, 2023 6:31 PM
Author: ..,...,.,.,..,..,.,...,,.,..,...
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5276900&forum_id=2#45841709) |
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Date: January 24th, 2023 1:52 PM
Author: .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,...
(dude who shows up at a Goldman Sachs recruiting event shouting, "My kid doesn't need an indoctrination center like Harvard! Ever hear of a library?")
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5276900&forum_id=2#45835217) |
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Date: January 24th, 2023 2:17 PM
Author: .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,...
Well, if you are cool with your kids working construction or working their way up to manager at Hardees, more power to you. But almost all decent jobs require a college degree these days. Employers are not likely to accept a library card as a substitute.
And LJL at anyone who pays $200k for a college degree. My niece went to community college and transferred to flagship state. She got a degree with less $20k in debt (and could have easily kept it under $15k but she decided to gamble that Biden would forgive it). She got zero help from the family.
Yes, you will get no argument from me that spending $200k to get a theater degree from NYU is stupid, but it doesn't follow that all college degrees are stupid. If you take out $20k in debt to get a CS degree at the local state school and earn a job in the low six figures after graduation, most people would consider that to be a very smart investment.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5276900&forum_id=2#45835358) |
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Date: January 25th, 2023 12:16 AM
Author: .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,...
I would rather that my kids be NBA superstars signing 9 figure contracts, but that isn't going to happen, either. If you have a family business to give to your kids, congrats. But for everyone else, college is the simplest path to a non-shitjob.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5276900&forum_id=2#45838039) |
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Date: January 24th, 2023 1:59 PM
Author: .,.,.;;,;.,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,..:...:.,:.::,
i appreciate the ethos of an amherst or williams but few if any people choose them over dartmouth if given the option. they are either destination schools for people who grew up in that new england prep school culture or fallbacks for ivy strivers. and the latter far outnumber the former.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5276900&forum_id=2#45835245) |
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Date: January 24th, 2023 2:23 PM
Author: .,.,.;;,;.,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,..:...:.,:.::,
they are almost always old-money wasps, with the occasional jew, but still not the best of them, who would still go to hyp first
but that creates a culture of prestige if not a strictly academic one, which in some ways is all prestige is. which is why amherst and williams punch above their weight in their air of prestige.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5276900&forum_id=2#45835404) |
Date: January 24th, 2023 2:06 PM Author: Buck "The Club" Paulette
HYPSM, Caltech, Wharton, and CMU SCS seem like the clear top 8.
And then, I dunno, maybe Duke and Dartmouth?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5276900&forum_id=2#45835296)
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Date: January 24th, 2023 2:12 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,....,:,..,:.:.,:.::,
Hillsdale
Notre Dame
BYU
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5276900&forum_id=2#45835334)
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Date: January 24th, 2023 2:20 PM
Author: .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,...
Quality of life aside, picking Dartmouth over Michigan only makes sense if you are a striver loser who bases your entire life on the USNWR rankings. If you look at the quality of their faculty (which seems like a better way to compare schools), Michigan is a mile ahead of Dartmouth. Attending Michigan football games and smashing sorority slores are just an added bonus.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5276900&forum_id=2#45835381) |
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Date: January 24th, 2023 7:16 PM
Author: .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,...
I think you meant to say, "Dartmouth is going to have a much wealthier student body." I went to HYPS and currently work at a flagship state school comparable to Michigan. And honestly there is almost no difference in the quality of the students. The very best students at HYPS are a little better, but 70-80% are legacies, athletes, affirmative action, or random rich kids who are not particularly impressive. And if the difference between HYPS and Michigan is small, I think it's safe to assume that the difference between Michigan and Dartmouth is basically non-existent. So given the option, I would rather have bigger name professors, football games, and massive quantities of sorority slores. But to each their own.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5276900&forum_id=2#45836753) |
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Date: January 24th, 2023 11:53 PM Author: ,..,,,,,,....,,,...,
Dartmouth has women & sororities and I don't really see a benefit to 20k women vs. 2k women. There are plenty of options in either place and the male competition at Dartmouth includes tons of Asians, nerds and twinks. A lot of the women are athletes and outdoorsy hippie types but I don't see a problem with that. Better wife candidates than some instagram-addicted Midwestern prole blonde chick that will gain 10 pounds/year.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5276900&forum_id=2#45837928) |
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Date: January 25th, 2023 1:04 PM Author: ,..,,,,,,....,,,...,
Of course New Hampshire is lame as shit but you are there for college living in a bubble and probably won't get murdered if you walk one block off campus.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5276900&forum_id=2#45839880) |
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Date: January 25th, 2023 12:18 AM
Author: .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,...
Plus the exciting annual Dartmouth/Brown football game.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5276900&forum_id=2#45838054) |
Date: January 24th, 2023 2:17 PM Author: sensitive robot
HYPSMC
Wharton
Columbia
Chicago
non-Wharton Penn = Dartmouth = Brown
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5276900&forum_id=2#45835362) |
Date: January 24th, 2023 2:20 PM Author: Pole Troon
Princeton, Harvard, Stanford, U. Chicago, Caltech, Harvey Mudd, M.I.T., Rice, Hillsdale, Duke
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5276900&forum_id=2#45835379) |
Date: January 24th, 2023 5:48 PM Author: 11th Year Associate Still Expecting Breakfast (This Will Be The Year)
Deep Springs
(massive gap the size of an anus freshly gaped by a few cowboys)
HYPS
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5276900&forum_id=2#45836451) |
Date: January 24th, 2023 5:53 PM
Author: .,.,.;.,..,..,.,:.,:,..,..,::,..,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:, ( oppose bitch bois)
Odd that we've never talked about this before.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5276900&forum_id=2#45836479) |
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Date: January 24th, 2023 7:03 PM
Author: .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,...
It's truly shocking that a bort full of autistic Asians is obsessed with comparing the prestige of different universities.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5276900&forum_id=2#45836694) |
Date: January 24th, 2023 6:01 PM Author: sniggle
MIT
CalTech
Harvard
Stanford
Cornell
Brown
Carnegie Mellon
Yale
John’s Hopkins
Northwestern
Note:
Northwestern>UChicago
NYU>>>>>Columbia
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5276900&forum_id=2#45836496)
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Date: January 24th, 2023 7:11 PM Author: Brussels Sprout (Apropos of the Wet Snow)
for the ultimate undergraduate experience, where can u find the finest young minds lectured/taught/graded personally by the best faculty without teaching assistants/grad students?
there must be an Oxford, Cambridge of America
also, where can u go to school without having to look at millionaire Athlete/Moguls living large?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5276900&forum_id=2#45836727) |
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Date: January 25th, 2023 1:04 PM
Author: .,,.....,.,.,.,:,,:.,..,:::.,..,:,.,.:..:.,:.::..
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5276900&forum_id=2#45839885) |
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