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Taking an advanced handgun course this weekend
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Date: January 27th, 2023 1:58 AM Author: mustard rigor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278686&forum_id=2#45848058) |
Date: January 27th, 2023 2:02 AM Author: vibrant persian parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278686&forum_id=2#45848065) |
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Date: January 27th, 2023 2:05 AM Author: vibrant persian parlour What's advanced about it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278686&forum_id=2#45848068) |
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Date: January 27th, 2023 2:06 AM Author: mustard rigor i dunno, i think it goes over USPSA/IPSC shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278686&forum_id=2#45848072) |
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Date: January 27th, 2023 2:20 AM Author: vibrant persian parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278686&forum_id=2#45848090) |
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Date: January 27th, 2023 11:53 AM Author: copper piazza That's good (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278686&forum_id=2#45849255) |
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Date: January 27th, 2023 1:39 PM Author: aphrodisiac background story dilemma you learn to curve the bullet (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278686&forum_id=2#45849745) |
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Date: January 27th, 2023 1:58 PM Author: Gaped idea he suggested lettuce (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278686&forum_id=2#45849845) |
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Date: January 27th, 2023 2:55 AM Author: low-t exciting step-uncle's house 180. I took 2 last week and taking another one Monday. Also going skeet shooting on Saturday. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278686&forum_id=2#45848114) |
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Date: January 27th, 2023 4:16 AM Author: copper piazza 180. What instructors? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278686&forum_id=2#45848176) |
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Date: January 27th, 2023 11:02 AM Author: low-t exciting step-uncle's house Local good dood who was personally mentored by Jeff Cooper and used to be a Hollywood armorer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278686&forum_id=2#45848969) |
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Date: January 27th, 2023 11:53 AM Author: copper piazza If you're on that side of the country, see if you can snag a class with Rob Leatham in Phoenix, or see if you can get in on one of Ben Stoeger's upcoming classes, either in Arizona (Tucson) or Cali (Stockton).
Core Vision Training is up in Washington, and they have some Cali and Vegas classes too. They're 180.
Clay Martin is in Idaho.
Shaw Shooting is in Montana.
Any and all of those guys are 180. |
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Date: January 27th, 2023 1:39 PM Author: low-t exciting step-uncle's house 180 Ty. I have many of Ben's books and use his web store as a "curator" for gear. Aren't these guys training more for competition vs self defense tho? The reason I like my instructor is that he's 100% about actionable training for realistic situations. He has a ton of LE/security pros and military in his classes and incorporates new shit he learns from them all the time. He recently showed a new technique for dropping and taking cover next to cars that they're doing in Afghanistan. Very subtle/nuanced shit but makes it more fun and interesting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278686&forum_id=2#45849743) |
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Date: January 27th, 2023 3:01 PM Author: copper piazza The high level comp guys, as a team, would kill the fuck out of almost anyone who isn't SOF, even with very little tactical exposure. In any sort of civilian situation, I'd take a USPSA GM over almost anyone just based on draw speed and accuracy under stress.
Matt Pranka is a former CAG guy (and USPSA GM), who runs a training company called X-ray Alpha. He works closely with Ben, and they teach some together. Pranka has experience doing all the tactical stuff at a higher level than most people, and his main thesis these days is that hard skills (e.g. shooting and fitness) > "tactics" any day -- because most tactics require you to hit what you're shooting at, preferably faster than the other guy. I can take USPSA M or GM shooters and teach them tactics in a few hours, and they'll kill most infantry squads just based on marksmanship.
Pat McNamara was Delta's marksmanship NCO back in the 2000s. He emphasizes competitive shooting to develop real marksmanship under stress.
CAG has brought Rob Leatham, Ben Stoeger, and JJ Racaza in to give shooting instruction because the bottom line is that shooting is best taught by competitive shooters.
Tactics are separate, and for that any of the military guys I recommend here: http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&mc=160&forum_id=2#41143621 are great resources. But for shooting itself, it doesn't get better than champion practical shooters.
A lot of the skills are the same -- draw fast, hit targets quickly at varying ranges, run around while shooting, and do it all under the stress that a clock provides.
For actual CQB or SUT or kit setup, go with somebody military. |
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Date: January 27th, 2023 4:15 AM Author: copper piazza 180, what instructor?
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Date: January 27th, 2023 6:06 AM Author: Irate arousing spot sounds like fun. please poast descriptions of some of the lunatics you meet in the course (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278686&forum_id=2#45848275) |
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Date: January 27th, 2023 11:02 AM Author: Thriller hot station blood rage Taking a concealed carry class this weekend. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278686&forum_id=2#45848973) |
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Date: January 27th, 2023 11:08 AM Author: low-t exciting step-uncle's house Highly recommend these IWB holsters (entrada or protos) my dood:
https://www.blackarchholsters.com/product-category/iwb-holsters/
I've tried all the top brands and these are far and away the lowest profile and most comfortable of any IWB (appendix to 4pm). I have both styles for all my compact SAs. For appendix carry the entrada is especially ingenious for the weight distribution with the mag pouch. |
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Date: January 27th, 2023 11:10 AM Author: Thriller hot station blood rage ty Been trying to research good holsters. |
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Date: January 27th, 2023 3:06 PM Author: Flushed excitant newt OWB works so much better for me. A good quality OWB holster is nearly as low profile as IWB. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278686&forum_id=2#45850256) |
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Date: January 27th, 2023 3:08 PM Author: copper piazza More clothing restrictive, ofc, but it's a way easier draw (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278686&forum_id=2#45850261) |
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Date: January 27th, 2023 3:19 PM Author: Flushed excitant newt Much more comfortable for sure. Which leads to carrying more often. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278686&forum_id=2#45850299) |
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Date: January 27th, 2023 3:21 PM Author: low-t exciting step-uncle's house Definitely can see that depending on circumstances and have the pancake style OWB for everything too. I really like Desantis for owb. If concealment isn't the issue then IWB appendix is always the fastest draw imo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278686&forum_id=2#45850309) |
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Date: January 27th, 2023 11:05 AM Author: electric erotic fortuitous meteor What do you think wild Bill Hickok would think? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278686&forum_id=2#45848998) |