a sane system would actually encourage troublemakers and non-learners to select themselves out of the classroom. it should be easy for them to fuck off so that the capable kids can actually try and learn.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5310905&forum_id=2#46082441)

better would be to track them early according to their abilities / temperament

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5310905&forum_id=2#46082445)

Classroom Management & Strategies

Serious question. I cannot get them off their phones. I cannot compete with TikTok. They cannot even watch a short film without zoning out on their phones. Hell, I’m to the point that I sit on my phone half of the period because I’ve given up trying to compete with the device in their pockets. Teaching has becoming boring. They don’t want to talk to each other or me - it’s just TikTok all day everyday in their pajamas. Blank zombie stares. Where are we going if (as) we continue down this road? Two months and I’m finished with this. I have already submitted my resignation, and I’m leaving the profession. I am still concerned for our kids though and their teachers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5310905&forum_id=2#46083865)

the "top" education thinkers are irredeemably shitlib and woke. to the point that calling kids "good kids" or "bad kids" is akin to a slur. it is heretical to their dogma that kids that behave should be separated from those that don't, or that there is a difference in cognition among kids that justifies different levels of school. it's impossible to make progress with these people at the helm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5310905&forum_id=2#46082566)

go into the early dindu thunderdome and you'll see lots of well-behaved kids mixed with unruly kids. try as the behaving kids might, the unruly kids will create a disruptive environment that stunts their education and impacts how they behave. fast forward to middle school and it's even worse, with almost all the kids being unruly and disruptive. then you got to high school and it's just a warehousing facility except for a handful of dbz anime dindus that manage to pass and might attend the local community college. if those dweebs were in the good school they probably would have been v20 partner.

of course, if you say "perhaps the students that are able to sit quietly and learn should be enabled do to do, while we work on rehabilitating the disruptive ones" you'll get accused of ever "ist" under the son (regardless of whether the school is 98% dindu from approximately the same social class).

the right wing boomer memes of the 90s of libs cutting off people's legs so everyone would be "equal" to one another is true. no amount of parody captures how retarded and evil these people are. now that liberalism has become the monoculture, we're starting to see them go completely mask off, with shit like kids not being alerted to winning national merit scholarships or banning AP classes in the name of "equity."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5310905&forum_id=2#46083589)

*SP giggling mischievously*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5310905&forum_id=2#46083735)

Burn it all down

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5310905&forum_id=2#46083596)

the only thing is that moving kids from their shitty family to government run facilities is often far worse, as season 4 of the wire also showed. the brilliance of season 4 is about how complicated and difficult to solve the situation is. unless as hypothetical dictator of america you can also make government run childcare not nightmare town.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5310905&forum_id=2#46084119)

this is just an admission that a significant percentage of the human population shouldn't be allowed to reproduce

at least have the balls to take your ideas to their logical conclusion

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5310905&forum_id=2#46084378)

i know i'm being an autistic asshole about this, but this kind of timid half-admission of the truth about the world that you and the poaster above are exhibiting has always disgusted me. look, these people clearly should just be either straight up enslaved or killed. they're not "fellow citizens" or our "equals" or even human in the same way that we are human. either we enslave them, expel them, or exterminate them. those are the only rational options

this kind of refusal to admit the objective truth about the world is the reason why modern western society has gotten as bad as it has. things are never ever going to get better until regular citizens are willing to make a friend-enemy distinction between themselves and individuals and groups within their civilization who are their existential enemies and need to be dealt with by force

we don't need "welfare restrictions" or "management of bad parents" or whatever other silly, cowardly half-measures that eloi dorks come up with. we just need to kill these people. they are our enemies. they have to go

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5310905&forum_id=2#46084562)

killing your enemies is always an option. and, in fact, every alternative "solution" to dealing with an existential foe other than killing them is just a derivative of killing them: e.g. stalling until you can become strong enough to kill them, deceiving them into a position where you can kill them, etc

if you don't like killing, you can always expel or enslave instead. but those are actually more difficult and riskier than simply killing your enemies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5310905&forum_id=2#46084756)

you don't advance society by obsessing over its weakest and least-productive components, or by lavishing those components with attention and time from the more intelligent classes. you advance by focusing upon your strengths, and developing those.

directing a large portion of social resources and intelligence toward trying to 'help' people who mostly lack the capacity to function in modern society seems like a HUGE waste. it would probably be a lot easier and less profligate to simply impose norms from above by force. ie, stricter enforcement of existing laws + salvadoran super-prisons. people who are too impulsive or obtuse to at least hide their criminality can be removed from society entirely.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5310905&forum_id=2#46084980)

shitlibs have complete control of the legal system, educational system, and civic religion of this society. it is no more "possible" to "impose pro-social norms" in a reasonable, rational top-down fashion using force than it is to straight up exterminate undesirables. both of these things are *literally* in complete opposition to the power structure and moral beliefs of everyone in power in our society, and in the minds of a significant chunk of the bourgeoisie rank-and-file population

in order to accomplish any of these half-measures, "we" would have to completely displace the current elite and power structure of this society, and completely scrap and rebuild the moral framework of our society. and if this actually happened, why would we settle for any of these silly half-measures when it would be possible to instead just simply get rid of these evil, awful, worthless people?

i do think there's some kind of rhetorical value in discussing these kind of half-measures in the public sphere. but even then, nobody is ever going to truly support these half-measures unless they are fully willing and able to admit to themselves that these undesirables in question objectively have no place in our society, period. and if they're at that point, then, well...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5310905&forum_id=2#46085084)

Two deans injured in shooting at East High School, student suspect is at-large

DENVER — Two deans were injured in a shooting at East High School on Wednesday morning and the student suspect is at-large, according to the Denver Police Department (DPD) and Denver Public Schools (DPS).

The DPD identified the suspect around 2:10 p.m. as 17-year-old Austin Lyle. He is described as a Black male standing 5 feet, 5 inches and weighs about 150 pounds. He was wearing a green hoodie at the time and may be driving a 2005 red Volvo XC90 with license plate number BSC-W10, according to a Metro Denver Crime Stoppers bulletin.

DPD Chief Ron Thomas said during a press conference that the report of a shooting came in at 9:50 a.m. and officers, as well as medical personnel and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives in Denver, quickly responded to the school, which is located at 1600 City Park Esplanade, just south of City Park. The school was put on lockdown.

The two injured adults, whom DPS and DPD identified as deans during the press conference, were transported to a local hospital. Denver Mayor Michael Hancock said paramedics were inside the school and started helping the two injured faculty members immediately. Hancock said he believes this will play a huge role in their recovery.

Chief Thomas described one of deans' condition as serious but stable. He said the other person was in surgery in critical condition.

Heather Burke with Denver Health confirmed that Jerald Mason and Eric Sinclair, both listed as deans on East High School's website, were bought to Denver Health Medical Center.

Mayor Hancock added that a student was brought to the hospital for a reaction to what was happening, but was not injured.

Chief Thomas said the suspect, later identified as East student Austin Lyle, 17, was under a school safety agreement where he had to be patted down and searched in a front office before school each day. Chief Thomas said this had happened every day for a while without a problem, but on Wednesday, the student pulled a firearm and shot and injured the two deans.

The suspect fled from the scene, but police identified him shortly afterward, Chief Thomas said. A few hours later, the DPD released his name publicly. A search is underway to find him.

He is wanted on a charge of attempted homicide, according to a Metro Denver Crime Stoppers bulletin.

DPD said it has identified the suspect, even though he's a juvenile, because of the threat he poses to the public.

Superintendent Dr. Alex Marrero said safety plans — like the one the suspect was under — are based on past behavior. DPS said all districts in the state have school safety agreements with certain students. The suspect's history is not currently available.

DPS started a controlled release around 11:25 a.m., after the police department gave staff the all-clear. Parents were told to pick up their children at 17th Avenue and Esplanade. Students who drove to the school were escorted to the parking lots to leave and students who ride the bus were held until the buses arrived, DPS said.

Superintendent Marrero said East High School will not have classes on Thursday and Friday.

"In terms of what we can expect at East from here until the end of the school year, in collaboration with Chief Thomas and with support from our mayor and also communicated this to the Board of Education, that we will have two armed officers here at East until the end of the school year," he said.

Denver police have had a presence outside the high school for quite some time already, Mayor Hancock said.

"I think it's clear now that we need to do even more interdiction with our police officers inside the buildings in these types of situations," he said.

Denver7’s Colette Bordelon spoke with a student on the student council who said he was outside when the shooting happened.

“I just saw and started hearing sirens, fire truck sirens," he said. "I started running toward the school because I was over here. I looked at the building and I saw students running. I saw students in the classrooms started ducking their heads.”

“I feel hurt every time," he said.

Denver7’s Jessica Crawford spoke with the grandmother of two students who were barricaded inside the school.

“I’m very upset," the grandmother said. "We, as a society, are not doing enough. We don’t have any police in the school. There’s no metal detectors. I’m tired of hearing there’s no money for that. Don’t tell me that we don’t have money for that. It’s our kids' safety we are talking about... What you go through in your mind when you don’t know what is happening, you don’t know where the shooter is, you’re not sure where your kids are. We have to make changes."

She said one of her granddaughters was in a room with no windows when the school went into lockdown.

"When she texted, my son told her to make sure they barricade the door, but she hyperventilates," she said. "I mean, how frightening is that for a child? How much emotional trauma must our children take in this day and age?”

A father who rushed to the school after hearing about the shooting told Denver7's Bayan Wang that his son was on lockdown in the library.

"I want to point out that this is the fourth major incident here at East High," Steve Katsaros said, noting recent shootings and swatting incidents. "The Denver School Board is failing us. And it's really a problem."

A mother of an East High student said Wednesday marked the fourth time in 2023 that she had to come get her son out of a lockdown.

"I’m very mad," she said. "These kids spent so much time and energy protesting. I was there with them. So much time and energy remembering Luis’ loss. Why is it landing nowhere? Nothing is being done. My son is breaking down. He’s saying he doesn't want to die. It’s just ugly. He’s scared. He doesn’t want to show it."

The East High School community protested against recent gun violence last month, when students attended a Denver City Council meeting to demand action on gun violence and school safety after 16-year-old Luis Garcia was killed in a shooting near the school on Feb. 13. The teen's funeral was Saturday. In addition, last September, an East High student and 20-year-old man were injured in a shooting near the school.

In early March, students walked out of class and marched to the Colorado State Capitol to demand an end to gun violence.

Students said that lockdown drills have become routine parts of the school day.

Colorado Gov. Jared Polis said he is closely monitoring the situation. In a statement to Denver7, he said:

“Our students should and must be able to attend school without fear for their safety, their parents deserve the peace of mind that their children are safe in classrooms, and teachers should be able to work safely and without harm. We also reflect that today is the anniversary of the Boulder King Soopers shooting and yet again the scourge of gun violence continues to plague us. We appreciate the quick action taken by East High school faculty and staff to secure the school and make sure students were safe and this is an ongoing situation.”

In a statement posted to Twitter after the press conference, Mayor Hancock said schools should be free of any and all violence. He added that easy access to guns must be addressed in Denver and beyond.

"There are common sense proposals at the Legislature and in Congress right now — they must be passed," the statement reads. "It's also time to return School Resource Officers in our schools. Removing them was a mistake and we must move swiftly to correct it. We're ready to work with DPS, and we all have to step up as a community and be part of the solution."

https://www.denver7.com/news/local-news/developing-denver-police-responding-to-shooting-at-east-high-school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5310905&forum_id=2#46085019)