I don't see any GOP path to Presidential victory in 2024
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Date: May 29th, 2023 11:20 AM Author: dashing dull range circlehead
It feels like the White House is lost for a generation. What cons seem to fail to realize is that you don't get any points for how passionate your voters are, merely how many of them are out there. There are simply way more libs, no matter how casually they believe in their candidate.
Tell me how Georgia and Arizona are ever going red again? Trump had to have gotten every last conceivable voter in those states already. If you weren't going to vote for him then why would that change?
GOP cannot keep up with the growth of major cities which are mostly minorities and left wing nutcases. The Right isn't exactly churning out babies in rural MAGAstan. No one can keep up with shitlib urban minorities in their rate of population growth. It's literally two lost cowboys in the desert trying to save the country against hordes of urban mud people who are expanding exponentially.
The only counter argument is that you have Governors Kemp and Youngkin whatever at the state level but they're mostly RINOs and don't play national politics well.
Simply put GOP will never overcome the Dem numbers. Michigan and Pennsylvania have gotten steadily bluer. It's sad but the country is now Mexico and will never return to its former glory.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347467&forum_id=2#46367405) |
Date: May 29th, 2023 11:26 AM Author: Passionate degenerate sound barrier
if it were held tomorrow, agreed.
i dont anticipate any big changes but there are like 17 months. maybe its kamala or something
overall, unless single white women are brought back in the fold, the combo of white women + all other ethnicities vs. white men + outliers means dems win
i could see a future where its entirely race-based voting and white women do in fact join white men. by that point whites may be around 40%
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Date: May 29th, 2023 11:26 AM Author: indigo motley newt station
Trump only lost in 2020 because of limitless mail-in voting. It's Tammany Hall politics with kike-nigger mail-in ballot harvesting ops replacing potato nigger ballot harvesting
The GOP's problem is that people who AREN'T Trump can't win. Mush-brained self destructive suburban whites (mostly women) shifted towards Democrats and the Trumpian Prole Tide doesn't vote when he's not on the ballot.
2022 is what happens when the GOP runs without Trump. Horrible polling for Democrats, objectively terrible economic environment, people pissed off with the direction of the country. But instead of 2010/2014 it's a red ripple because the PROLE TIDE stays home while cunty suburban white women (former swing votes) show up for Dems.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347467&forum_id=2#46367427) |
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Date: May 30th, 2023 1:16 PM Author: nofapping kitty
To be fair,
It's truly amazing how ((((Consuela)))) manages to spin every single thing that happens into a 674-D master chess move by his tribe.
Trump won? Yeah, just setting up permanent destruction of the GOP. Checkmate, conturds.
Roe overturned? Globohomo did that intentionally, amazing that you goys can't see that. Pwned.
And on and on and on.
He loves talking about this shit -- he'll go on for hours, just don't bring up physical silver or the fact that he used to admit he's a Jewish man married to a brown woman with half brown / half kike Kids, and he'll talk your ear off about how amazingly brilliant the Jews are at winning everything all the time even when it seems like they're taking L's (but he's telling you stupid goys that because he's your REAL friend, you dumb little hobbits).
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347467&forum_id=2#46371290) |
Date: May 29th, 2023 1:20 PM Author: curious cordovan kitchen headpube
trump lost by ~1pt or less in key battleground states like ga, az, and wisconsin. with those flipped he wins. it's easy to see him doing it in 2024. people don't vote on policies -- they vote on how they're feelings. largely around the economy and the candidates personalities. in 2020 trump was fucked by covid and performed very poorly against biden in the debates. in 2024 trump seems to have gotten a lot of his enthusiasm and magic back compared with biden continuing to sundown. meanwhile the economy and the state of the country has continued to decline, with people feel worse off today than they did during the trump years, with biden having no big, exciting legislation or policies out there to distract from the fact that people are worse off than they were before.
so many people play these head games where they think the entire electorate is like them -- that they are picking a candidate based on measured analysis of their policies and competencies. no, the vast majority of people based on feel. if they feel bad they'll vote for a change. if they feel like one candidate is "better" for whatever reason they'll change. how do you think we go from GWB to Obama to Trump to Biden? These presidents could not be more different from another. and who would have predicted obama during the bush years or fucking trump during the obama years?
lastly -- potus doesn't matter anyway unless they have the balls for abusing the power of potus for big changes or if they get enough seats in congress to pass massive policy. from the first trump term we saw that trump doesn't have the will to wield potus, and it's unlikely the GOP will have as many seats in 2025 as it did in 2017. so, although i think trump has a good shot of winning (probably better than biden if it was help today), even if it happens i don't think anything will change.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347467&forum_id=2#46367742) |
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Date: May 29th, 2023 1:49 PM Author: brindle crawly generalized bond
Jfc this is a stupid take.
Trump has been toxic to the GOP for 3 fucking cycles in a row.
2018 - GAPED (lost the House)
2020 - GAPED (lost the SEN & POTUS)
2022 - GAPED (DOZENS of his hand-picked candidates lost)
What part of that do idiot supporters not understand?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347467&forum_id=2#46367837) |
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Date: May 29th, 2023 1:56 PM Author: Passionate degenerate sound barrier
sadly cr.
trump evokes a lot of passion and emotion for many people, who have watched entire institutions betray them. 2015 and 2016 were so unexpected and triumphant that many will never untether themselves from the man who made it happen.
Its like staying with a spouse who remained at your side through cancer or something. "I will DIE before I leave this woman."
Understandable, but it prevents any honest reckoning of what Trump really accomplished or what he stands to accomplish going forward. He cannot win the general, whether you ascribe that to a regime willing to break all rules to prevent him, or the generally toxic effect he has on necessary demographics like college educated white women (again whether you ascribe that to media collusion, etc, or not).
But even bracketing all that, and imagining that he does win, there is no evidence he can do anything but appoint judges and fire off executive orders. That's better, for me, than the alternative of Biden... but I don't count it any real success.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347467&forum_id=2#46367877) |
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Date: May 30th, 2023 1:19 PM Author: nofapping kitty
To be fair,
Trump is never going to "save" America. No one with a three digit IQ thinks otherwise. The point isn't that Trump is going to it around and "save" America -- America is dead and it's not coming back.
The point is that when it comes to Trump, kikes literally just cannot help themselves -- they will do ANYTHING and let the mask slip ALL THE WAY in order to fuck with him. And given that the ultimate success of their plans ultimately rest on boiling the frog before it notices that the water is too hot, their inability to show even the slightest modicum of restraint when it comes to dealing with Trump is the greatest gift he can possibly give us.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347467&forum_id=2#46371301) |
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Date: May 29th, 2023 2:32 PM Author: dashing dull range circlehead
I disagree with this. I predict that due to population trends we will see a much more blue America that will trend away from any possibility of a Republican presidency for generations.
You're way overthinking it. People don't even make up their minds or go by their gut feeling. People vote based on what they are. If you're an inner city minority your identity is Democrat. If you're from a blue state and your family grew up in and around cities and you went to a liberal college, you're a blue person.
It's as simple as that. All the data and evidence shows that people vote according to race, gender, and location. It has nothing to do with how people feel about a candidate. You're making it seem like most voters have any type of thoughts at all. They don't.
Go to any city and tell me there aren't nappy headed negroes and beaners everywhere. That's who are in major cities. Shit, Los Angeles whites are a minority. So we don't have to do much guessing right? We know who the nappy headed urban dwelling negroes are voting for already. We can pencil it in. Now if I told you that the population of Atlanta was 1.5 billion people and the rest of rural Georgia was 10 people you wouldn't have to do any type of analysis on voter opinion. Now that extreme example can be reduced to real life numbers but we're still talking about a major metro with millions of nappy headed negroes running around voting 90%+ Democrat and you have white rural Georgians who aren't increasing in population at all.
So what does it matter if people get finnicky about Biden and want change? Who are these 'people' who are going to change their minds about the direction of the country? They're not. It's a numbers game and we're only going to see it get worse. Mexico had a liberal progressive government for 80 years where they would just run on more handouts every time. This is what the US will become. No one is fighting back. It's over. I would bet anything on Biden reelection. The country is getting dumber and browner and it can't go back.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347467&forum_id=2#46368011) |
Date: May 29th, 2023 1:56 PM Author: electric dilemma
trump is a retard, if the GOP nominated almost anyone else they wld have a solid chance
and i say this as a salt of the earth nazi white nationalist who wants trump to win
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347467&forum_id=2#46367879) |
Date: May 29th, 2023 2:43 PM Author: Provocative Glassy Business Firm Coffee Pot
"It feels like the White House is lost for a generation. What cons seem to fail to realize is that you don't get any points for how passionate your voters are, merely how many of them are out there. There are simply way more libs, no matter how casually they believe in their candidate."
There aren't more libs. There are more moderates, and the GOP can't stop taking positions that piss them off (abortion, guns, etc).
"Tell me how Georgia and Arizona are ever going red again? Trump had to have gotten every last conceivable voter in those states already. If you weren't going to vote for him then why would that change?"
Georgia is probably lost, if not by 2024, in the long term. The demographics are really bad for the GOP. It's 33% black and another 15-20% mystery meat. No point in GOP investing in this state long term. Disagree about Arizona though. It's a moderate state that will continue to be a battleground for a long time, especially if GOP improves slightly with Hispanics.
"GOP cannot keep up with the growth of major cities which are mostly minorities and left wing nutcases. The Right isn't exactly churning out babies in rural MAGAstan. No one can keep up with shitlib urban minorities in their rate of population growth. It's literally two lost cowboys in the desert trying to save the country against hordes of urban mud people who are expanding exponentially."
Yes but not every state has a big city in it. There are lots of states the GOP loses that are more suburban in nature that the GOP needs to try to become competitive again in. Like Virginia, New Hampshire, Maine.
"The only counter argument is that you have Governors Kemp and Youngkin whatever at the state level but they're mostly RINOs and don't play national politics well."
They aren't RINOs but they are outliers. Youngkin is a billionaire who won because he pumped a ton of money in, and still he only won by 1%. It still shows that with the right messaging you can win a state like Virginia.
"Simply put GOP will never overcome the Dem numbers. Michigan and Pennsylvania have gotten steadily bluer. It's sad but the country is now Mexico and will never return to its former glory."
The sad truth that you probably won't want to hear is that GOP policy positions are wildly out of touch with the center of the country. Especially on abortion, but that's just one example. The easiest way for the GOP to become competitive again, at least in terms of the national popular vote overall, is to moderate its positions on abortion, gays, guns, and minority stuff.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347467&forum_id=2#46368044) |
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Date: May 29th, 2023 2:55 PM Author: dashing dull range circlehead
The GOP base will never accept a moderate. You're right they should go after Virginia, New Hampshire, Arizona, Nevada, and Wisconsin. But a Sununu type would never win the GOP primary.
What you call moderates I'm calling liberals. When we're talking about the small sliver of swing voters such as the exurbs of major cities that swung for Trump in 2016 before going back to Biden, these so called moderates have to choose between being anti woke fiscally responsible types, or if social conservatism bugs them so much they vote for Biden that makes them shitlibs, not moderates.
The GOP is too far socially conservative to ensnare those 'moderate' voters. RINO types are not going to ever win the primary so it's moot. But back to my larger point trying to win a national election by a small margin by pivoting away from social conservatism to get a bunch of moderate Northerners on board is not the way. It's just ceding the country. That's bowing to lib nonsense and admitting defeat.
The demographic problems are by far the biggest issue. GOP cannot overcome muds. Catering to the 1% fence sitters is not how you restore America. Maybe things have to get worse before they get better but those moderates are assholes and if they don't want the country to die maybe they shouldn't literally vote for Joe Biden and hold their nose and elect a real conservative.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347467&forum_id=2#46368069) |
Date: May 29th, 2023 2:46 PM Author: Provocative Glassy Business Firm Coffee Pot
This is their easiest path: https://www.270towin.com/maps/DgL18
very precarious path though. Georgia or Arizona could easily go to Dems. And Wisconsin is probably lean Dem at this point because of the abortion ruling.
And if they nominate a dud like DeSantis Wisconsin is almost certainly out of reach.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347467&forum_id=2#46368052) |
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Date: May 30th, 2023 12:13 AM Author: Provocative Glassy Business Firm Coffee Pot
never said it was easy, it's just their "easiest" path.
what really fucked them was the SCOTUS abortion decision. it's pretty much a non-starter in Wisconsin. They are going to lose the state solely on that issue.
That means they absolutely MUST win Georgia and Arizona and get lucky somewhere else. They are not winning Michigan or Pennsylvania.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347467&forum_id=2#46369930) |
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Date: May 29th, 2023 3:18 PM Author: Big swollen market
Fair-skin Latinx will become the new white people.
Just like the Irish & Italians did.
"Sarah Rodriguez" who is 2nd generation latina who didn't grow up speaking spanish ans pledge Tri-Delta at Auburn will be surge that the GOP will depend on
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347467&forum_id=2#46368157) |
Date: May 29th, 2023 4:29 PM Author: Cracking cruise ship lettuce
totally impossible with "mail-in" votes and especially with changing demographics going forward.
trump won pretty easily in 2020 and he still lost. it's not getting better from there. they proved they can do it.
we'll be a one party state of corruption as is typical in latin america or under jewish communism (see, eg, california).
we're already getting show trials and open contempt from the ruling party like biden being obviously senile and not in charge and fetterman being a braindead zombie. the humiliation is the point.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347467&forum_id=2#46368402) |
Date: May 29th, 2023 4:32 PM Author: Slate house
Who gives a shit
Oh—rich kikes and their slaves
Carry on
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Date: May 29th, 2023 11:48 PM Author: 180 aquamarine shrine
100 year old vet break downs crying https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1663267058371444740
Part of what makes it depressing for old guys is they don't know why it is happening. No one has a coherent explanation unless they understand the main element is Jews obtaining power and control through breaking down white identity.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347467&forum_id=2#46369877) |
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Date: May 30th, 2023 1:23 PM Author: nofapping kitty
To be fair,
Unironically this, and just imagine thinking otherwise.
"No you fool -- what will actually happen is that all white people will just die and then Jews will win and permanently run everything in the world forever. The political science is settled, trust me, I have a law degree you idiot!"
That's literally what the insane Jewish libs on XO tell you, even as they call you the "insane retard" for hearing that and daring to say, "hmmm, idk... that doesn't actually sound right to me..."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347467&forum_id=2#46371312) |
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Date: May 30th, 2023 1:30 PM Author: nofapping kitty
To be fair,
If by "most" of XO you mean "the odd borg swarm of based tall chadly straight white male goys who all just happen to megapoast about politics as Pumos and Quotemos and actively despise TBF's shrill and obnoxious one-note low-IQ antisemitism," then yes I suppose that's true.
And fair enough, I mean, far be it from me to question the wisdom of Chad J. Worthington III (aka """""" and/or ....,.....,.,..,.,....)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347467&forum_id=2#46371338) |
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