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Switzerland: 3% of the world's watch market, 24% of its value
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Date: June 6th, 2023 2:02 PM Author: lascivious national how could such a small country produce so much value-add?
how can 3 in 100 watches built worldwide contain a quarter of all value on purchases? |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 5:09 PM Author: Cerebral opaque gay wizard state I question the premise. Switzerland makes way more than 3% of the world's watches. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351312&forum_id=2#46396511) |
Date: June 6th, 2023 2:02 PM Author: brilliant whorehouse death wish What's more is Swiss watches used to be considered SPS and AMERICAN watches were the standard. LOL another thing we fucked up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351312&forum_id=2#46395662) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 2:03 PM Author: Hideous Property watches are stupid and only fags give a shit about them (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351312&forum_id=2#46395669) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 2:04 PM Author: Floppy bull headed bawdyhouse really tough guy RSF fucks men (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351312&forum_id=2#46395675) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 2:05 PM Author: lascivious national RSF fucks, man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351312&forum_id=2#46395682) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 2:56 PM Author: Floppy bull headed bawdyhouse really tough guy he literally posted pics from a MFM threesome in some former soviet republic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351312&forum_id=2#46395953) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 3:16 PM Author: brilliant whorehouse death wish Sorry friend that was actually me and two genetic females. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351312&forum_id=2#46396043) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 5:24 PM Author: Odious Fishy Forum Organic Girlfriend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351312&forum_id=2#46396564) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 2:21 PM Author: brilliant whorehouse death wish watches are 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351312&forum_id=2#46395757) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 2:31 PM Author: Hideous Property lol at manjewerly wearers. i haven't even put my wedding ring on in like 4 months. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351312&forum_id=2#46395813) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 2:32 PM Author: brilliant whorehouse death wish Watch out guys we have a badass here! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351312&forum_id=2#46395821) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 2:34 PM Author: Hideous Property cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351312&forum_id=2#46395834) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 2:04 PM Author: lascivious national Lmao that is hard to believe. What were the heavy hitter American watch brands? I know Hamilton was once US based but other than that who was out there?
US soldiers wore Seiko in Vietnam. And all the film actors in the 60s and 70s were wearing Cartier and Heuer and shit... I think maybe go back to the very early 20th century we may have been prestigious. |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 2:20 PM Author: brilliant whorehouse death wish GRUEN of Cincinnati, Ohio (started as The Columbus Watch Co) used to be HIGH fucking END. They made the original watches for Pan Am pilots and the first watch Connery wears in a Bond movie is a Gruen. Now? LJFL. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351312&forum_id=2#46395754) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 2:31 PM Author: lascivious national I may have heard the name before.
Give me your unvarnished gloves off take on Panerai, and Paneristi fan boys? Don't hold back what do you think of us. Scandals and Richemont acquisition and ETA movements aside... |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 2:33 PM Author: brilliant whorehouse death wish I have a Panerai. I never thought I would like any of them but them BAM one day I saw one I liked. It's a great, rugged travel watch. You can smash it into stuff, wear it diving, no worries. I have been noticing way more of them on people's wrists lately, I think they are seeing a surge in popularity. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351312&forum_id=2#46395827) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 2:38 PM Author: lascivious national 180000000000 TY
Yeah something really seductive about every element of that watch. I like the big form factor (I am a big dood and my wrist is really far away from my face and hard to see small dials), the sandwich dial with lume underneath, the 'sausage' Arabics. The crown guard makes it instantly recognizeable.
A lot of watch snobs hate on them, and their hardcore fans claim the company hates its customers and won't just make a bunch of old school looking Radiomirs. But idgaf they're my favorite rn. Ralph Lauren once said Panerai was the best example of a rugged Western man, while Cartier was the best for a refined city-dweller. |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 2:41 PM Author: brilliant whorehouse death wish Soo CR. I think it's just MAF wristlets (most of the enthusiast community) who are happier wearing 32mm ladies watches. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351312&forum_id=2#46395874) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 2:46 PM Author: lascivious national I think a 42 is small nigguh can't see nuttin' (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351312&forum_id=2#46395900) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 3:18 PM Author: vivacious orchid tank elgin, waltham
i mean rolex wasnt even swiss until the UK went SPS and they relocated |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 3:40 PM Author: Passionate heaven What watches are in your collection?
Right now I have a Datejust but I want to splurge on another watch in the next 12 months. I'm only in the market for a Rolex/AP/Patek but know that getting my hands on model I want will require being on a waitlist for 6-12 months. I'd thinking that it may be worth it to wait for the market cool off, as I don't feel like paying 100% above retail for a used watch on grey market. |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 3:44 PM Author: brilliant whorehouse death wish I have ~50 watches so too long an answer. The market seems to be cooling but people have been saying that for months and it's still LOLINSANE. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351312&forum_id=2#46396178) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 2:03 PM Author: Henna Public Bath Water Buffalo Centuries of groveling, anus sniffing, usury (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351312&forum_id=2#46395665) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 2:05 PM Author: lascivious national Rolex 40% of the US watch market by dollar value (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351312&forum_id=2#46395678) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 2:12 PM Author: Henna Public Bath Water Buffalo Ok (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351312&forum_id=2#46395723) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 2:14 PM Author: lascivious national That's a staggering number dude. The demand for Rolex could not possible be any higher. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351312&forum_id=2#46395733) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 2:21 PM Author: brilliant whorehouse death wish Unreal that a company that makes 1,000,000 mass produced pieces / year was able to con people into thinking they need them at these inflated prices through shrewd marketing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351312&forum_id=2#46395756) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 2:30 PM Author: lascivious national It's also the way they combatted fakes (the most copied watch on Earth) and artificially kept the supply really low so the demand stayed exorbitantly high.
ADs now supposedly won't sell you a Rolex unless you buy a bunch of their other less selling watches first. If you can find one at MSRP it doubles the second you walk out of the store with it.
You'll never hear Swiss watch makers complain though: it's believed that Rolex moves the market for everyone. Everyone gotta have a Sub for some reason. It's a cultural phenomenon. |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 2:32 PM Author: brilliant whorehouse death wish I mean of course they have come up with some iconic designs but COT DAMN did they do a number on us. The inflation adjusted price for a Sub based on the 60's pricing should be like $1,500. Sure there have been advances, etc...but LMAO at it now being closer to $10,000 for no reason other than HYPE. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351312&forum_id=2#46395817) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 2:34 PM Author: lascivious national Is a Royal Oak really worth 20k and a Patek 60? It's all luxury goods, meng.
When Luxottica bought Ray-Bans they were selling in gas stations for $20. They took them off the market for a year when they came back they were $200. Their explanation for the price increase? "They're more detailed." It's all flame! |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 2:36 PM Author: brilliant whorehouse death wish Which Patek. A precious metal grand complication made by hand by a highly trained and highly skilled artisan over a large $ of hours is certainly going to cost more than a mass produced machine made watch. The Royal Oak is living off it's history although pre-COVID you could cop them below MSRP. COVID really fucked up the pricing on all luxury goods. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351312&forum_id=2#46395843) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 2:41 PM Author: lascivious national I'm not going to dispute that a Patek doesn't go all out to craft the highest level finery. Their reputation is impeccable. My larger point is that all luxury goods have exorbitant prices, now, many times more than their intrinsic value.
I just saw a reviewer who was complaining about the finish on an AP movement and claims they're just making too much money now because it's a Royal Oak and people will pay anything for it. |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 2:42 PM Author: brilliant whorehouse death wish AP isn't making that $ though, it's gray dealers flipping them for crazy mark ups. I don't think any watchmakers did more than a 10-15% price hike which these days feels like child's play. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351312&forum_id=2#46395878) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 2:58 PM Author: lascivious national what brands/models are you recommending highly these days? I am in the market for 5-8k
Kind of drawn to the Tudor Black Bay. Some people say it's the "most instagramable watch" for some reason. I also like IWC Portugieser |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 3:02 PM Author: brilliant whorehouse death wish Watches are subjective AF but I really do NOT care for anything Tudor puts out. In the bargain cat (under $5k) I just picked up a Bell & Ross GMT in April that I quite like, but it didn't make the cut for this summer. My next purchase will be a Blancpain 50 Fathoms, unless the DayDate or GMT Master II I'm on the list for come in before. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351312&forum_id=2#46395988) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 3:04 PM Author: lascivious national Macron put Bell & Ross on the MAP.
I never was a Tudor guy either but the black dial Black Bay just has an aesthetic color scheme imo. |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 2:42 PM Author: chocolate histrionic son of senegal As a comfortable but not rich guy, it makes me happy to see that the things that truly rich people spend their money on are things that would make absolutely no difference in my happiness level.
I want to be able to eat a steak dinner when I feel like it and take a nice vacation when the urge arises, but I can do that just fine. Beyond that, there's literally nothing that Bill Gates could do right now that I can't which would make any difference in my happiness level. Nothing. |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 2:43 PM Author: brilliant whorehouse death wish "I want to be able to eat a steak dinner when I feel like it"
Libs want to take this from you. |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 2:45 PM Author: flushed place of business brunch They make watches, we spend money to educate retarded blacks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351312&forum_id=2#46395888) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 2:50 PM Author: lascivious national I did not vote for this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351312&forum_id=2#46395917) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 3:33 PM Author: beady-eyed address feces The Swiss also make the best screwdrivers and related tools. PB Swiss. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351312&forum_id=2#46396112) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 3:36 PM Author: lascivious national Why can't we make nice shit in USA? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351312&forum_id=2#46396125) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 5:28 PM Author: big-titted greedy useless brakes abode How nice can a screwdriver be? I can get one at my local Ace that turns a screw just fine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351312&forum_id=2#46396575) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 5:38 PM Author: aphrodisiac garnet immigrant electric furnace Try putting that Ace screwdriver up your ass (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351312&forum_id=2#46396589) |