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Gravity subthread blew my mind

I dont know my IQ but its cursedly middling - high enough to...
Tripping Tan Public Bath Alpha
  06/07/23
>When eggheads balk and say something cannot be translate...
adventurous disturbing home love of her life
  06/07/23
I think you just did
Filthy haunting step-uncle's house tattoo
  06/07/23
idk. I can drop a baseball and explain to a middle schooler ...
Tripping Tan Public Bath Alpha
  06/07/23
I think you just did
Filthy haunting step-uncle's house tattoo
  06/07/23
One commonly used analogy is to imagine spacetime as a rubbe...
adventurous disturbing home love of her life
  06/07/23
ty thats a good model, but it obv hinges on your first sente...
Tripping Tan Public Bath Alpha
  06/07/23
Sure. Consider astronauts on the ISS, who are orbiting earth...
adventurous disturbing home love of her life
  06/07/23
kids love it when you explain this prior to them going outsi...
costumed razzle lodge
  06/07/23
What subthread
Cobalt station idea he suggested
  06/07/23
this one
Nofapping indian lodge
  06/07/23
4chan ufo
Tripping Tan Public Bath Alpha
  06/07/23
the spacetime fabric explanation or whatever seems to beg th...
Confused Zombie-like Main People
  06/07/23
Yes, the explanation is a bit circular, because it's an over...
adventurous disturbing home love of her life
  06/07/23
For another perspective, consider the novel "Flatland&q...
adventurous disturbing home love of her life
  06/07/23
no chatgpt generated responses please. they don't come any c...
Confused Zombie-like Main People
  06/07/23
This answer perfectly explains it. Your question isn't actua...
adventurous disturbing home love of her life
  06/07/23
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&fo...
Confused Zombie-like Main People
  06/07/23
tp
costumed razzle lodge
  06/07/23
this thread also illustrates why TSINAH is a garbage poster.
Confused Zombie-like Main People
  06/07/23
? I provided the simplest explanation possible from sever...
adventurous disturbing home love of her life
  06/07/23
Explain
Contagious pearl queen of the night
  06/08/23
everything he posted itt is by chatgpt
Confused Zombie-like Main People
  06/08/23
Fizziks grad(!) here, gravity is still very metaphysical, th...
Lake Seedy Digit Ratio
  06/07/23
cr Photons and other quantum particles don't experience t...
adventurous disturbing home love of her life
  06/07/23
Explain gravitational lensing
Chestnut aggressive casino sound barrier
  06/07/23
It's all 100% theoretical. Furthermore the people who develo...
Chestnut aggressive casino sound barrier
  06/07/23
Gravity is fraud. You're telling me it somehow can hold the ...
pale goal in life
  06/07/23
There are also nuclear forces that are totally independent o...
Chestnut aggressive casino sound barrier
  06/07/23
There are four fundamental forces in the universe, as recogn...
adventurous disturbing home love of her life
  06/07/23
What about dark energy?
Chestnut aggressive casino sound barrier
  06/07/23
that's what causes smoke detectors to chirp
adventurous disturbing home love of her life
  06/07/23
So gravity can hold an entire moon to the earth but when I&r...
pale goal in life
  06/07/23
The Higgs boson was supposed to explain all of this in the 7...
Chestnut aggressive casino sound barrier
  06/07/23
Gravitational force is proportional to the mass of each obje...
adventurous disturbing home love of her life
  06/07/23
"Force is proportional to mass (unless you're talking a...
Chestnut aggressive casino sound barrier
  06/07/23
Correct, for objects in motion, force is defined as the obje...
adventurous disturbing home love of her life
  06/07/23
Science is for 117 IQ people
fighting abode selfie
  06/07/23
I'm 118 IQ that's why I stopped at a BS in Physics
Lake Seedy Digit Ratio
  06/07/23
People with IQs in the 60s still employ scientific reasoning...
Chestnut aggressive casino sound barrier
  06/07/23
You should be set on fire
fighting abode selfie
  06/07/23
Fortunately libs are still trying to prove fire exists.
Chestnut aggressive casino sound barrier
  06/07/23
spacetime is like a Purple mattress
diverse property
  06/07/23
I guess to answer OP's original question, science is really ...
Filthy haunting step-uncle's house tattoo
  06/07/23
Also I cannot let ChatGPTSINAH's lies stand. A black hole is...
Filthy haunting step-uncle's house tattoo
  06/07/23
The singularity at the center of a black hole is a consequen...
adventurous disturbing home love of her life
  06/07/23
What general relativity added is basically only confusion: I...
Filthy haunting step-uncle's house tattoo
  06/07/23
so the ufo just jumps over and over?
bearded cruel-hearted range
  06/07/23


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Date: June 7th, 2023 7:18 AM
Author: Tripping Tan Public Bath Alpha

I dont know my IQ but its cursedly middling - high enough to appreciate that many "smart" people are entirely flame, but perhaps not smart enough to do genuinely smart thinking.

My trusted precept is that any legit idea, no matter its complexity, CAN be explained simply enough for average brains to comprehend. When eggheads balk and say something cannot be translated to 100IQers, I usually find they are obscuring bullshit. But maybe not always....

So can you explain simply this idea that gravity is not a force propelling smaller massed objects to bigger massed objects, but a result of "spacetime" being "curved"?

Bc that certainly sounds like flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46398380)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 8:35 AM
Author: adventurous disturbing home love of her life

>When eggheads balk and say something cannot be translated to 100IQers, I usually find they are obscuring bullshit.

It usually means they don't actually understand the topic you're asking them to explain.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46398535)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 7:42 AM
Author: Filthy haunting step-uncle's house tattoo

I think you just did

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46398410)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 7:53 AM
Author: Tripping Tan Public Bath Alpha

idk. I can drop a baseball and explain to a middle schooler that the earth has more mass and so the ball is driven towards its center.

i couldnt begin to explain what ST is or how its curved, and further how that moves the ball

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46398429)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 8:09 AM
Author: Filthy haunting step-uncle's house tattoo

I think you just did

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46398479)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 8:27 AM
Author: adventurous disturbing home love of her life

One commonly used analogy is to imagine spacetime as a rubber sheet. If the sheet is empty, it's flat. But if you put a heavy ball (representing a massive object like a planet) in the middle of the sheet, it will deform the sheet, causing it to curve downward. Now, if you try to roll a small ball (representing a less massive object, like a satellite or a spaceship) in a straight line, it will instead move along a curved path due to the deformation caused by the heavy ball. This is a simple way to visualize how gravity works in general relativity.

Now assume the heavy ball has infinite density, but zero volume, i.e., a black hole: The reason that the volume is zero rather than the mass is infinite is easy to see in an intuitive sense from the creation of a black hole. You might think of a volume of space with some mass which is compressed due to gravity. Normal matter is no longer compressible at a certain point due to Coulomb repulsion between atoms, but if the gravity is strong enough, you might get past that. You can continue compressing it infinitely (though you'll probably have to overcome some other force barriers along the way) - until it has zero volume. But it still contains mass! The mass can't just disappear through this process. The density is infinite, but the mass is still finite. That's why its gravity is so strong that nothing, not even light, can escape from it after crossing the event horizon. According to general relativity, this mass causes an extreme curvature in spacetime, a phenomenon that's often described as a "well" or a "sink" in the fabric of spacetime.

To continue the analogy, as the small ball is rolled in a straight line in the vicinity of a black hole, it would appear that time is moving slower.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46398519)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 8:39 AM
Author: Tripping Tan Public Bath Alpha

ty thats a good model, but it obv hinges on your first sentence inviting me through an analogy. Bc if we actually did the rubber sheet-two-balls, the old model (bigger mass attracts smaller mass) would more simply explain what we are seeing.

so in order to explain ST we have to say, imagine its like this other thing that we can in fact experience / imagine / verify. as a skeptical layperson I react, "well why do i have to immediately analogize away the primary claim?"

so i guess i refine my problem - is spacetime explainable in itself as something beyond a theoretical conceit that smarts use to do further shit. do i have to pass obamacare to know whats in obamacare

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46398552)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 8:48 AM
Author: adventurous disturbing home love of her life

Sure. Consider astronauts on the ISS, who are orbiting earth at approximately 4.6 miles per second. According to the theory of relativity, astronauts aboard the ISS would age more slowly compared to people on Earth. This is due to a phenomenon known as time dilation. There are actually two types of time dilation, both of which could be relevant in this scenario:

1. Special Relativistic Time Dilation: According to Einstein's special theory of relativity, a clock that is moving relative to an observer will be seen to tick more slowly than a clock that is at rest with respect to that observer. Since the astronauts in the ISS are moving at a high speed relative to an observer on Earth, their clocks – including their biological 'clocks' – would tick more slowly.

2. Gravitational Time Dilation: According to the general theory of relativity, clocks that are closer to a massive object (like the Earth) will be seen to tick more slowly compared to clocks that are further away. Since the ISS is farther from the Earth's mass compared to observers on the ground, this would make the astronauts' clocks tick more quickly relative to those on Earth.

So, in the case of the ISS, these two effects work in opposite directions: the speed of the ISS makes time slow down, while the altitude of the ISS makes time speed up. As it turns out, for the altitudes and speeds involved with the ISS, the effect of the speed (special relativistic time dilation) is slightly stronger than the effect of the altitude (gravitational time dilation). As a result, astronauts on the ISS age slightly more slowly than people on Earth – about 0.01 seconds slower for every 12 months they spend on the ISS.

This is a very small effect, but it has been confirmed by precise experiments with atomic clocks on GPS satellites, which have to account for similar effects to provide accurate positioning data.

Let's extend this to black holes: If you're watching someone cross the event horizon of a black hole, you would never actually see them cross the event horizon. Instead, you would see them slow down and appear to freeze at the event horizon, due to the extreme form of time dilation. From your perspective, it would appear as if they stopped aging completely upon reaching the event horizon. This is an example of gravitational time dilation. The effects of special relativistic time dilation are negligible, however, due to the immense gravity of a black hole.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46398569)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 11:14 AM
Author: costumed razzle lodge

kids love it when you explain this prior to them going outside to play

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46399074)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 8:12 AM
Author: Cobalt station idea he suggested

What subthread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46398484)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 8:43 AM
Author: Nofapping indian lodge

this one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46398555)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 8:43 AM
Author: Tripping Tan Public Bath Alpha

4chan ufo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46398557)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 9:01 AM
Author: Confused Zombie-like Main People

the spacetime fabric explanation or whatever seems to beg the premise. a lighter object rolls down the spacetime fabric because the latter is curved downwards toward a heavier object? well, doesn't the rolling down assume gravity? why should an object roll downwards? the explanation for why an apple falls toward the ground -- gravity -- is that it is actually rolling down the spacetime fabric, but that seems like tautology: it's falling down because it's rolling down.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46398595)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 9:06 AM
Author: adventurous disturbing home love of her life

Yes, the explanation is a bit circular, because it's an oversimplification that relies on the concept of gravity ('rolling down') to explain gravity.

In reality, what Einstein's General Theory of Relativity describes is not objects moving through a curved two-dimensional surface in three-dimensional space, but objects moving through a curved four-dimensional spacetime.

In this view, objects in free-fall (which includes objects moving under the influence of gravity) move along the straightest possible lines, or geodesics, in this curved spacetime. The presence of mass and energy causes spacetime to be curved, and this curvature, in turn, determines the paths of objects.

An object moving in the curved spacetime created by a massive object like Earth will move on a geodesic that appears curved to us in three-dimensional space, but from the object's own perspective, it's moving on the straightest possible line in the four-dimensional spacetime it inhabits.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46398606)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 9:10 AM
Author: adventurous disturbing home love of her life

For another perspective, consider the novel "Flatland" by Edwin Abbott: In Flatland, the inhabitants perceive and understand their world in two dimensions. If a three-dimensional object, like a sphere, were to pass through their world, they would only perceive a cross-section of it - a circle that changes in size.

Now, consider gravity and spacetime curvature. In our three-dimensional world, we are like the Flatlanders, trying to comprehend a four-dimensional reality (three dimensions of space and one dimension of time).

Imagine a massive object in this 4D spacetime, like a star. This is analogous to the sphere in 3D space. The star would cause spacetime around it to curve, like the sphere appearing to distort the 2D plane of Flatland. But just as Flatlanders can only see a slice of the sphere, we can only directly perceive a "slice" of the 4D spacetime curvature, which we interpret as the force of gravity.

Just like the Flatlanders, we follow what appear to be curved paths in our 3D space due to the presence of mass — but in the higher-dimensional view of 4D spacetime, these paths are the straightest possible lines, called geodesics. So, a planet orbiting a star appears to us to be moving in a curved path, but according to general relativity, it's actually moving in a straight line in 4D spacetime.

In this way, the Flatland analogy helps us visualize how we might be experiencing a higher-dimensional reality (spacetime curvature due to mass-energy) in our lower-dimensional space.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46398617)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 9:14 AM
Author: Confused Zombie-like Main People

no chatgpt generated responses please. they don't come any closer to answering why objects move at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46398623)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 9:28 AM
Author: adventurous disturbing home love of her life

This answer perfectly explains it. Your question isn't actually related to the topic at hand, but: Objects move because some force was applied to it. "Force" is what causes mass to change velocity (i.e., accelerate). Once that force stops, in a complete vacuum absent all other forces, that object will continue moving in the same direction indefinitely.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46398660)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 9:32 AM
Author: Confused Zombie-like Main People

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46398645

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46398669)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 11:16 AM
Author: costumed razzle lodge

tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46399086)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 9:22 AM
Author: Confused Zombie-like Main People

this thread also illustrates why TSINAH is a garbage poster.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46398645)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 9:33 AM
Author: adventurous disturbing home love of her life

?

I provided the simplest explanation possible from several perspectives, which I had ChatGPT flesh out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46398671)



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Date: June 8th, 2023 1:33 AM
Author: Contagious pearl queen of the night

Explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46402051)



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Date: June 8th, 2023 3:33 PM
Author: Confused Zombie-like Main People

everything he posted itt is by chatgpt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46404411)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 9:35 AM
Author: Lake Seedy Digit Ratio

Fizziks grad(!) here, gravity is still very metaphysical, there's no particle or field for it. We can describe it well on large scales using GR but when it comes to quantization it's a smattering of hypotheses

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46398680)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 9:38 AM
Author: adventurous disturbing home love of her life

cr

Photons and other quantum particles don't experience time and space in the same way that objects with mass do. Combining quantum mechanics with general relativity is an area of ongoing research and metaphysical circle jerks.

Now, critique the answers I provided ITT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46398691)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 11:48 AM
Author: Chestnut aggressive casino sound barrier

Explain gravitational lensing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46399218)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 9:37 AM
Author: Chestnut aggressive casino sound barrier

It's all 100% theoretical. Furthermore the people who developed the theories were dead wrong about a lot of stuff. You are now asking the same people who developed these bunk theories to start making sense after they spent their entire careers developing shitty theories and making bad predictions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46398686)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 9:39 AM
Author: pale goal in life

Gravity is fraud. You're telling me it somehow can hold the entire ocean to earth, but I can jump?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46398695)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 9:40 AM
Author: Chestnut aggressive casino sound barrier

There are also nuclear forces that are totally independent of gravity, but just as magical. We know they exist because Hiroshima, but 80 years later that is still the extent of our knowledge.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46398698)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 9:48 AM
Author: adventurous disturbing home love of her life

There are four fundamental forces in the universe, as recognized by our current understanding of physics:

(1) Gravitational Force: This is the force that the Earth exerts on you to keep you grounded. It's also the force that keeps the Moon in orbit around the Earth and the planets in orbit around the Sun.

(2) Electromagnetic Force: This is the force that causes electric and magnetic effects, such as the repulsion between like-charged particles or the attraction between unlike-charged particles. It also governs the behavior of photons and electromagnetic waves (like light), and it's responsible for holding electrons in atoms.

(3) Weak Nuclear Force: This force is responsible for certain kinds of radioactive decay, like beta decay. It's called "weak" because its strength is much less than that of the strong nuclear force, and its effects can only be seen at very short (subatomic) distances.

(4) Strong Nuclear Force: This is the force that holds protons and neutrons together in an atomic nucleus. It's also responsible for the force between quarks, the particles that make up protons and neutrons.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46398720)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 9:51 AM
Author: Chestnut aggressive casino sound barrier

What about dark energy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46398729)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 10:07 AM
Author: adventurous disturbing home love of her life

that's what causes smoke detectors to chirp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46398792)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 10:14 AM
Author: pale goal in life

So gravity can hold an entire moon to the earth but when I’m on the moon, the moons gravity holds me on it? Something’s not adding up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46398823)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 10:18 AM
Author: Chestnut aggressive casino sound barrier

The Higgs boson was supposed to explain all of this in the 70s. Then we realized supersymmetry was bullshit.

Still, libs demand credit for "discovering" the Higgs boson decades later. They still want to claim credit for finding a particle that exists for a few nanoseconds and does nothing. They gave Nobel prizes to scientists who proved (maybe) that it exists.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46398837)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 10:31 AM
Author: adventurous disturbing home love of her life

Gravitational force is proportional to the mass of each object and the distance between them. The gravitational force exerted on you by earth (while you're on the moon) is far less than the gravitational force exerted on you by the moon, so you stay on the moon. Someone with my physical characteristics, however, may not be so lucky.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46398911)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 10:36 AM
Author: Chestnut aggressive casino sound barrier

"Force is proportional to mass (unless you're talking about that weird force that binds subatomic particles and that is 100 trillion times stronger than gravity and that is present even in helium molecules)."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46398932)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 11:11 AM
Author: adventurous disturbing home love of her life

Correct, for objects in motion, force is defined as the object's acceleration multiplied by its mass. This doesn't apply to the strong nuclear force, which acts at the subatomic level. Its effects are described by the exchange of gluons between quarks (which are the fundamental particles comprising protons and neutrons). The calculations and predictions involving the strong nuclear force are based on the principles and equations of quantum chromodynamics, which are specific to the quantum realm and cannot be directly linked to classical mechanics or Newton's second law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46399062)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 10:15 AM
Author: fighting abode selfie

Science is for 117 IQ people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46398827)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 10:20 AM
Author: Lake Seedy Digit Ratio

I'm 118 IQ that's why I stopped at a BS in Physics

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46398843)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 10:22 AM
Author: Chestnut aggressive casino sound barrier

People with IQs in the 60s still employ scientific reasoning subconsciously. It's only when they become libs that they lose the ability to identify cause and effect relationships.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46398857)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 10:25 AM
Author: fighting abode selfie

You should be set on fire

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46398880)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 10:27 AM
Author: Chestnut aggressive casino sound barrier

Fortunately libs are still trying to prove fire exists.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46398895)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 10:33 AM
Author: diverse property

spacetime is like a Purple mattress

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46398924)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 10:39 AM
Author: Filthy haunting step-uncle's house tattoo

I guess to answer OP's original question, science is really just about which theory yields the best predictions and the math in GR simply describes reality better than Goy Mechanics (GPS is an oft-cited real world example)

If you're saying it's somehow more 'intuitive' to imagine that big objects "pull" little ones than that big objects deform spacetime and little objects travel in geodesics along that deformity, that's probably just because you were taught Goy Mechanics in your formative years long before you learned about GR. I know I know if schoolchildren were only exposed to Schoenberg...

As for wtf 'spacetime' is, it's just space and time. Jewish physicists like to say it that way to confuse goyim and because time and space appear to actually be interchangeable (in both special and general relativity)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46398945)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 10:44 AM
Author: Filthy haunting step-uncle's house tattoo

Also I cannot let ChatGPTSINAH's lies stand. A black hole is simply a finite region of VERY LARGE mass. There need not be a singularity (point of infinite density) inside. It may be. No one knows. It's impossible to tell from the outside. The effect on matter outside of the event horizon is the same or almost the same regardless

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351679&forum_id=2#46398963)



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Date: June 7th, 2023 11:22 AM
Author: adventurous disturbing home love of her life

The singularity at the center of a black hole is a consequence of general relativity and is formed as a result of the extreme gravitational collapse of matter. When a massive star runs out of nuclear fuel and exhausts its internal sources of pressure, it undergoes gravitational collapse. If the mass of the star is sufficiently large, the collapse continues until it forms a singularity at the center, surrounded by the event horizon.

Other theories propose the idea of a trapped surface/frozen star at the center of a black hole instead of a singularity, but these approaches often involve considering the behavior of matter and spacetime at extremely high energy densities, where quantum effects become significant. Some theories suggest that quantum gravity could manifest as a repulsive force at extremely small scales, countering the gravitational collapse and preventing the singularity from forming. This would result in a highly compact object without a true singularity. But, the exact nature of how quantum gravitational effects could prevent the formation of a singularity in a black hole is not yet fully understood and a theory of quantum gravity that successfully unifies general relativity and quantum mechanics would be required.

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Date: June 7th, 2023 11:37 AM
Author: Filthy haunting step-uncle's house tattoo

What general relativity added is basically only confusion: If general relativity holds true inside the black hole, there could be, in some cases should be a singularity inside. This however is no more than a sign; a little red flag indicating that general relativity is probably not true far inside a black hole. A singularity is here related to an infinite (divergent) density. This is not weird, not philosophy, not time travel or warp drive, not worm hole or quantum healing, dear Hawking and Caroll and so on, although such silly interpretations do sell silly books. A divergence to infinity in a physical theory is no more than a sign that the theory has left its domain of applicability and should be replaced by something better in the future.

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Date: June 7th, 2023 11:04 AM
Author: bearded cruel-hearted range

so the ufo just jumps over and over?

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