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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:10 PM Author: Up-to-no-good khaki reading party I've posited this before, but no one seems to take me seriously, even though I'm dead serious. I am separated from Musk by one degree, and my degree says he is skeptical Musk can even do calculus.
When he said this to me, it hit hard because this wasn't the type of fella to exaggerate like that. Also, I had every reason to believe he talked to Musk. I knew they had interacted, and I always thought it was weird that he and Musk didn't stay in contact. The only explanation I can fathom for that is the one this dood gave me: that Musk was DUMB and didn't know wtf he was saying. |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:14 PM Author: obsidian beta abode This is the dumbest theoery on the planet. Musk has done 3 hour podcasts where he rolls from topic to topic citing actual practical physics.
I don't know if you know a dumb person, but they're not spouting off the gravity of mars, battery conversion rates, and solar energy generation in casual conversation. |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:14 PM Author: twisted unhinged menage cr. there probably isn't a single person on xo that can talk casually on science and engineering as good as musk can. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47076467) |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:29 PM Author: Up-to-no-good khaki reading party None of those things require you to know calculus. They are facts one can recite from an xo poast. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47076517) |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:34 PM Author: twisted unhinged menage would love to see an xo poaster start lecturing on those topics and recite those facts tho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47076528) |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:39 PM Author: Up-to-no-good khaki reading party Yeah, come to think of it if he was talking to the dood I know, they were talking about shit that had nothing to do with space. Maybe Musk seemed out of his league because he wasn't coached on this topic in advance.
Also, this was years ago, and if it was Musk who broke off contact (I don't think it was, my guy says he stopped talking to Musk and he has no reason to lie about that), he was an idiot because he is now fully on board with what this dood is saying. He just doesn't have him on Signal like he did before, can't just text a dood and ask questions (which is what he was doing before) after not talking to him for like 3-4 years. |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:25 PM Author: dark casino musk is aspie. simple as. nothing he says is wildly wrong, it's just that you'd expect someone with his intelligence, power and influence to be a bit more refined.
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:12 PM Author: twisted unhinged menage probably 90% of xo cant do calculus. its all polisci shitheads. unless you mean like literally he is incapable of it couldn't do it no matter how hard he tried (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47076459) |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:13 PM Author: cyan cracking step-uncle's house idiot I certainly can't do calculus anymore, but why the fuck would I want to? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47076461) |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:14 PM Author: twisted unhinged menage cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47076465) |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:19 PM Author: obsidian beta abode One of the more remarkable things about education, is not only do I not remember how to do all the advanced math I learned, I often forget that I even took the class.
I can barely even tell you what differential equations is even about now. |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:29 PM Author: cyan cracking step-uncle's house idiot if you put me in hs algebra II right now and asked me to take a quiz I would almost certainly fail miserably (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47076515) |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:30 PM Author: Amethyst adventurous dopamine digit ratio u ain't be ISOLATING dem VARIABLES?? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47076518) |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:31 PM Author: cyan cracking step-uncle's house idiot I'd struggle to even remember wtf a matrix is (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47076522) |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:55 PM Author: Up-to-no-good khaki reading party A 2-dimensional projection of data. I don't know if it needs to be more specific than that. I don't know what the internet definition is but I'm guessing it specifies columns and rows. I don't like that because it keeps you locked into two-dimensional thinking and makes it harder to transpose matrices in your head. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47076567) |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:56 PM Author: cyan cracking step-uncle's house idiot I certainly couldn't do anything with that projection (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47076568) |
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Date: November 20th, 2023 12:00 AM Author: Up-to-no-good khaki reading party I don't know what I saw last week. I'm hesitant to talk about it, but it cause me to do an informal poll of people who are my "peers" in some rough socio-economic sense, and <5% had taken matrix algebra. The rest had no idea what it was. Of the two who took it, one just did it on computer when he was getting an engineering degree. The other took it in college for some reason and said he thought it was easy, BUT that is also what my theory would predict, i.e. if you told me certain things about this dood, I would predict he would be extremely good at matrix algebra. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47076574) |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:14 PM Author: Amethyst adventurous dopamine digit ratio i know my calculus. it says u + me = us (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47076469) |
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Date: November 20th, 2023 9:57 AM Author: contagious rehab stock car forgot that existed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47077609) |
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Date: November 20th, 2023 5:12 PM Author: Amethyst adventurous dopamine digit ratio the hardest part about breaking up is getting back your stuff (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47079514) |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:18 PM Author: provocative flushed hall selfie Bro, I took AP calculus sophomore year of HS.
That shit was easy as fuck. I literally could have tought myself a whole semesters worth of calculus over a weekend. Might have needed a second weekend of practice to do well on a test, but the concepts are simple as fuck if you can remotely think abstractly.
And I don't have any particular talent for math. Haven't taken a single math class since. |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:35 PM Author: Up-to-no-good khaki reading party What got me thinking about this was actually matrix algebra, but I don't want to talk about that right now.
I think I'm like you in that calculus was really intuitive to me. I never understood the difficulty some people seem to encounter. However, my understanding of matrix algebra was entirely formulaic. I could not grasp it intuitively. I've read that a lot of people get one or the other intuitively, and that there seem to be more people who "get" calc.
I actually think this may be wrong, and that people employ matrix algebra without realizing it, sometimes for their entire lives. I have seen at least one IRL example of it. But there are far more people who take calc than matrix algebra, and far more people teaching it it seems. With general awareness levels being so low, people are not inclined to spot matrix algebra in action (e.g. they are blown away by "AI" bullshit that is 95% matrix algebra). |
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Date: November 20th, 2023 1:12 PM Author: Sexy Razzle Azn Show me your abacus,FAGGOT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47078439) |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:13 PM Author: Amethyst adventurous dopamine digit ratio To Be Fair unhined screed incoming... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47076460) |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:15 PM Author: exhilarant iridescent new version He isn't dumb, but I will grant that he is clearly a liberal artist wordcel and not a STEM brained shape rotator. He's like Steve Jobs in that his uniqueness doesn't come from his technical knowledge but his role as a visionary and leader of multiple high-concept orgs.
That said, he clearly also has technical knowledge. You must not have listened to any of his interviews. |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:18 PM Author: twisted unhinged menage He clearly is a STEM brained shape rotator. He isn't a Steve Jobs. Steve Jobs didn't have a physics degree. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47076479) |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:21 PM Author: exhilarant iridescent new version He has more technical knowledge of his discipline then Jobs did, sure. I'm just saying the fact that he's spearheading multiple companies with world-shattering goals is the important thing about him, not his B.A. physics degree. That's liberal arts for you baby. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47076489) |
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Date: November 20th, 2023 11:26 PM Author: Up-to-no-good khaki reading party I haven't seen evidence he's a shape rotator. Is he listed as an inventor on any patents? What was his Thomas Edison moment? I feel he might be like Fauci. Remember when he was first introduced to us and the media made it sound like he was curing diseases in the lab since 1984? Turns out all he did was write checks and send emails to Maddow. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47080914) |
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Date: November 20th, 2023 12:08 AM Author: Up-to-no-good khaki reading party Given that this dood talked to Musk at some point (for a while apparently), but then later stopped, one or the other of them must have made the decision to cease communication.
Let's assume it was Musk. Let's assume he was smart enough to see how dumb my buddy is. He said "fuck this asshole" and bailed. Years later, Musk is slurping the dood's cock, without even fully realizing it it seems. So Musk's earlier assessment of this dood was clearly wrong. He should have kept in contact.
Now let's assume my guy's version of events is correct: that Musk didn't understand what he was saying, and he didn't feel like repeating himself to Musk, just feeding him information for free while Musk asked more dopey questions. Under that version of events, it would make sense that years later, Musk would be slurping this dood's cock without realizing it. This dood is only listed in the footnotes, which Musk won't read, so he thinks he's reading someone else's writing when he's actually reading shit that was written by a dood he used to chat with on Signal, but no longer does. |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:15 PM Author: Aromatic jap gee, a one-off moniker making as much sense as a """"""'' (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47076472) |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:16 PM Author: saffron windowlicker tank I mean, I'm sure 95% of people who took and passed calculus wouldn't remember right now how to do integration by parts or delta-epsilon proofs, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47076473) |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:26 PM Author: Slimy glassy people who are hurt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47076503) |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:16 PM Author: swashbuckling shimmering trailer park seems like a bad theory.
hes some chauncey gardiner character who just lucked into becoming the worlds richest man... simultaneously working at the forefront of electric cars, space flight, satellites, social media, batteries, artificial intelligence and payments?
obviously smart people like peter thiel work with him and view him as a peer, never noticing he's actually dumb?
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:16 PM Author: saffron windowlicker tank (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47076475) |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:18 PM Author: obsidian beta abode Clearly you didn't see the Knives Out sequel Glass Onion. It really revealed Elon for who he is - an idiot who has tricked the world into thinking he's a genius (when the true geniuses are the people who wrote the movie Glass Onion and the people who watched and enjoyed the movie Glass Onion) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47076477) |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:18 PM Author: exhilarant iridescent new version (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47076481) |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:21 PM Author: twisted unhinged menage How did he get degrees in physics and econ from upenn if hes some type of retard? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47076490) |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:24 PM Author: Fluffy set he didn't get a degree in physics. he didn't get into stanford grad school.
that's where his real talent lies: bullshit |
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Date: November 20th, 2023 11:40 PM Author: stirring olive plaza He did neither of these things but he WILL sell you a Based Tesla to fund his based Mars mission! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47080947) |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:25 PM Author: nubile laughsome half-breed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47076500) |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:25 PM Author: Slimy glassy people who are hurt 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47076502) |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:36 PM Author: Clear Meetinghouse 1800 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47076531) |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:45 PM Author: cruel-hearted generalized bond (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47076551) |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:18 PM Author: exhilarant iridescent new version (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47076480) |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:24 PM Author: Fluffy set he's smart in real life but not by sv stem standards.
that simple. tons and tons of people who work at those companies are way out of his league.
musk is good at other things and then just lies about his stem credentials. working out fine for him. his job is very far removed from needing to do the math his employees do. |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:26 PM Author: exhilarant iridescent new version this thread is mostly filled with pajeets with math degrees seething because their careers have stalled from lack of social skills (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47076504) |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:28 PM Author: Fluffy set i also knew someone who was an elon direct report who complained he wasn't a good rocket engineer.
no shit? well he sure seems to be doing better than most people at owning rockets that go to space |
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Date: November 20th, 2023 9:38 AM Author: exhilarant iridescent new version (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47077531) |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:24 PM Author: Milky maniacal brunch death wish Lmao Steve Jobs couldn't code for shit and probably didn't know calculus, either. Total retards, these guys.
Bro, Elon isn't supposed to be some technical genius. He's an entrepreneur - maybe even the GOAT entrepreneur - and the skills necessary to be a "genius" entrepreneur aren't easily quantified. |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:27 PM Author: exhilarant iridescent new version (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47076505) |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:27 PM Author: Slimy glassy people who are hurt he's obviously smart just from listening to him talk
you can tell how smart any person is just from listening to them talk for a few minutes. if you don't understand this/can't do it, you're not smart
this is by far the most effective practical irl IQ test and everybody who is actually smart knows this |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:28 PM Author: twisted unhinged menage cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47076512) |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:28 PM Author: exhilarant iridescent new version Erm actually Jen Psaki on MSNBC said Musk is a moron so needing to watching one his hateful interviews is unnecessary 💅 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47076513) |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:31 PM Author: Spruce Comical Legal Warrant Whorehouse I'm also one degree removed from him via someone who worked C-level at Tesla with him.
Elon is fairly smart, but he's extremely execution focused more than nearly anyone else in SV. He manages a lot of people way smarter than him to work towards his goals, which is deceptively hard to pull off. |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:32 PM Author: exhilarant iridescent new version I see your point but unfortunately Elon isn't too good at taking derivatives so DING sorry the guy is a FRAUD (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47076523) |
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Date: November 20th, 2023 9:51 AM Author: Up-to-no-good khaki reading party I can believe this. The dood who relayed this to me said he felt used by Musk, like Musk pumped him for info but then spun his wheels when he got it. Didn't know what to make of what he was hearing, couldn't give it a thumbs up or down, but he was still able to juice this dood for info. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47077591) |
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Date: November 19th, 2023 11:42 PM Author: cruel-hearted generalized bond To be fair,
CR I’ve said it many times, he’s just not in the same class as XO Pumos |
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Date: November 20th, 2023 1:10 PM Author: Overrated Salmon Market Nibblets (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47078431) |
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Date: November 20th, 2023 12:27 AM Author: lime useless brakes No, but I'm open to the *possibility* that in acquiring twitter he's playing to all of his weaknesses and few of his strengths.
Twitter sucked as a business enterprise before musk, so you can't really say he "ran it into the ground" regardless of what happens, but he probably overpaid for it. |
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Date: November 20th, 2023 12:29 AM Author: cyan cracking step-uncle's house idiot he openly admitted that he did, dood is a bit autistic and wanted to do a service for humanity and it was flashy enough to grab his attention (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47076621) |
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Date: November 20th, 2023 12:42 AM Author: Up-to-no-good khaki reading party His own actions suggest otherwise. He only tweeted the $44bn figure after they demanded a background check to sit on the Board. That was his original intent. Why did he buy so much Twitter stonk in the first place if he was planning to buy the whole company and take it private at that same price two weeks later? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47076637) |
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Date: November 20th, 2023 4:25 PM Author: lime useless brakes My point is that folks like TBF say that there's some grand plan with the acquisition of twitter, rebranding to X, integration into a larger universe of products, etc.
I think it's equally possible that musk's purchase of twitter should be looked at as a consumption expense, like a yacht or a private jet or an island -- or maybe a better example: the DAs, etc. that george soros buys -- where he's paying to shape the world / public discourse in his image to some degree (out of vanity or ego or civic-mindedness or whatever). |
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Date: November 20th, 2023 4:28 PM Author: Up-to-no-good khaki reading party He was just MAF at Twitter over some account or tweet getting deleted. IIRC there was literally one incident that set him off. Everything that followed was just series of spaz-outs culminating in his forced-bi acquisition of Twitter. There was never any plan. JFC remember when he invited lawyers to submit resumes to join his SUPERTEAM of First Amendment defenders? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47079324) |
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Date: November 20th, 2023 9:53 AM Author: contagious rehab stock car lol glad to see we still have some gook poasters left here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47077599) |
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Date: November 20th, 2023 8:41 PM Author: Titillating White Theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47080338) |
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Date: November 20th, 2023 4:43 PM Author: vibrant rebellious garrison son of senegal He is an Ambien addict and will have dementia in 10-15 years (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47079394) |
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Date: November 20th, 2023 4:47 PM Author: Chocolate hairy legs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47079410) |
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Date: November 20th, 2023 8:24 PM Author: Up-to-no-good khaki reading party I'm exaggerating here. I don't mean to suggest he's legit DUMB, just that he's not any kind of STEM wizard.
Also, this wasn't one on one. This was a Signal group that Musk was part of, and it included at least one other rich fella who I was told is, in fact, legit dumb. Just no signs of life upstairs. Musk was not described as being like that, just "I'm not convinced he can even do calculus." The person saying this wasn't any kind of genius either, just someone who spends a lot of time with his nose in books. There ARE still people like that and I'm kinda fed up with "lawyers" who think that's weird. |
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Date: November 20th, 2023 8:28 PM Author: exhilarant iridescent new version Huge reversal. Blank your posts and scramble your password; you’re done here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47080284) |
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Date: November 20th, 2023 9:07 PM Author: Up-to-no-good khaki reading party TBF I said this was only a THEORY. If a reliable source told me Musk was dumb I wouldn't ask a bunch of random stranger to validate his claim.
I haven't talked about the dood he said was legit dumb because I am pretty sure xo will find a million specious reasons to claim I'm wrong. Nevermind that neither he or Musk seemed to have a low impression of my friend's intellect and I don't think they kicked him out of the chat. |
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Date: November 20th, 2023 5:56 PM Author: aphrodisiac primrose stead the screen goes dark in elon musk's office as gwynne shotwell signs off, trying to hide her disgust at his ignorance of laser comms, polar orbits, and what "megahertz" are. elon smugly rips a bong as he fires up league of legends, having frauded his way through yet another day as a leading tech entrepreneur.
suddenly his door shatters inward from a powerful kung-fu kick. elon spills his bongwater on his pants as he staggers to his feet. a jacked 6'4" pumo strides through the doorway. and he's holding a copy of arnold's classical mechanics.
"i'm invoking the 25th amendment on you, elon," the pumo snarls, his voice rich, deep and menacing. "you're just a wordcel charlatan. and we're going to prove it, right here, right now. you have to do every proof in this book, or i'm going to take your companies."
elon musk, crying, losing hope, squeezes his eyes shut wordlessly and turns to the first exercise. he stares at it blankly. after a while, his head hangs in impotent shame.
the pumo smirks at the textbook and apostrophizes it: "thou has conquered, galilean space." then he throws broken bum elon musk onto the street and sits down to take rightful possession of his empire. |
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Date: November 20th, 2023 8:58 PM Author: fragrant corner he's not dumb, he is very smart. now, I grant you he is no genius. I refuse to believe anyone who stutters and stammers, says "like" and loses his place as much as he does is a genius. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47080383) |
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Date: November 20th, 2023 11:19 PM Author: Up-to-no-good khaki reading party Now this is the kind of enlightened debate I hoping to inspire. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47080897) |
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Date: November 20th, 2023 11:28 PM Author: Bossy University Very smart. Primary skill is causing autists to sacrifice their lives for him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47080922) |
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Date: November 20th, 2023 11:31 PM Author: insane incel kitchen know an extremely successful PE guy who is friends with Elon. says he is ridiculously smart but a bit quirky and unlike his online persona can be awkward in person. basically he is always playing 4D chess. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47080926) |
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Date: November 20th, 2023 11:38 PM Author: Up-to-no-good khaki reading party Figuring out what violates the rules on Twitter right now requires you to think in at least 4 dimensions, so it adds up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5447076&forum_id=2#47080938) |