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Why is textual child porn legal if visual child porn is illegal?

There are literotica stories all over the internet mostly wr...
Cowardly stock car
  03/27/24
because one is real and the other is fiction
translucent lay
  03/27/24
what if people use AI to make ultra real visual child porn? ...
Cowardly stock car
  03/27/24
what are the relevant statutes ?
translucent lay
  03/27/24
I don’t but sick pedo freaks get no leeway under the l...
Cowardly stock car
  03/27/24
Good
Magical brunch
  03/27/24
I'm not sure that's true. IIRC, if you create a drawing tha...
provocative toaster
  03/28/24
Blame that fucking Ragu eater I’m serious SC judge C...
Magical brunch
  03/27/24
Surely the government will use more censorship powers wisely...
Stimulating Shitlib Meetinghouse
  03/27/24
no it would be legal, in fact John Ashcroft took this issue ...
Obsidian bull headed church building knife
  03/27/24
For anyone here posting fantasy SP pedo shit I think that&rs...
Magical brunch
  03/27/24
I don't know what SP is but I'm guessing it's South Park
Obsidian bull headed church building knife
  03/27/24
The court results / statutes on this are inconsistent iirc
motley cruise ship circlehead
  03/28/24
because no children were involved, which is why AI kiddie po...
free-loading giraffe
  03/27/24
There’s no way that will be allowed especially if it&r...
Cowardly stock car
  03/27/24
It’s allowed now. Trump has been bought on this issu...
Magical brunch
  03/27/24
it's already ubiquitous on 4chan and has been for like a yea...
Obsidian bull headed church building knife
  03/27/24
It will get busted soon enough. Once we realize pedophiles s...
Magical brunch
  03/27/24
> if it’s impossible to tell the difference the...
Obsidian bull headed church building knife
  03/27/24
I’m pretty sure some states have laws against compute...
motley cruise ship circlehead
  03/28/24
There’s legal and there’s violations of private ...
Magical brunch
  03/27/24
(pedophilia caselaw expert)
hyperactive infuriating fanboi
  03/27/24
Yes I am plagued by projecting pedos I had no idea people ...
Magical brunch
  03/27/24
is it "legal" to purchase an asian child, traffic ...
sick degenerate
  03/27/24
legal? they give you a tax credit. sick society
translucent lay
  03/27/24
It is not. Only a retarded pedophile would think otherwise.
Magical brunch
  03/27/24
Is it legal? It should not be
Umber garrison hissy fit
  03/27/24
I agree with you. It is legal per se. But that is differe...
Magical brunch
  03/27/24
Wtf are you sick freaks talking about. ANY depictions includ...
metal galvanic locale
  03/27/24
there's literally a supreme court case called Ashcroft v Fre...
Obsidian bull headed church building knife
  03/27/24
You aren’t helping
Magical brunch
  03/27/24
giving people the truth is by definition helping
Obsidian bull headed church building knife
  03/28/24
Sorry bro ur done here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PROT...
metal galvanic locale
  03/27/24
read your own link > the court did not reverse its hol...
Obsidian bull headed church building knife
  03/28/24
Why does SP know so much about CP ITT?
multi-colored toilet seat menage
  03/27/24
SPACEPORN = RAPE SON CP
cracking stage pervert
  03/27/24
🤯
Bearded Lime Site Really Tough Guy
  03/28/24
wild coincidence
translucent lay
  03/28/24
...
Arousing offensive scourge upon the earth sex offender
  03/28/24
Gas all jews
appetizing factory reset button market
  03/28/24
There isn't a constitutional distinction between visual and ...
Beady-eyed gay wizard plaza
  03/28/24


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Date: March 27th, 2024 5:45 PM
Author: Cowardly stock car

There are literotica stories all over the internet mostly written by women where they write fantasies or recount stories about getting raped by their brothers and fathers and uncles as teens and sometimes younger. Why is this not a chargeable offense like nudes and videos?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47532801)



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Date: March 27th, 2024 5:48 PM
Author: translucent lay

because one is real and the other is fiction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47532810)



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Date: March 27th, 2024 5:57 PM
Author: Cowardly stock car

what if people use AI to make ultra real visual child porn? seems like it would still be banned under the same laws that make it illegal to possess and peddle real ones

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47532833)



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Date: March 27th, 2024 5:58 PM
Author: translucent lay

what are the relevant statutes ?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47532838)



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Date: March 27th, 2024 6:00 PM
Author: Cowardly stock car

I don’t but sick pedo freaks get no leeway under the laws as they are written

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47532844)



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Date: March 27th, 2024 6:28 PM
Author: Magical brunch

Good

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47532950)



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Date: March 28th, 2024 12:41 PM
Author: provocative toaster

I'm not sure that's true. IIRC, if you create a drawing that isn't CP, same as AI generated content but I'm not bored enough to actually research this rn. Also, if an 18 year old goes and says "I'm a 12 year old middle schooler, my gym teacher is going to fuck me" - also not cp.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47534842)



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Date: March 27th, 2024 7:06 PM
Author: Magical brunch

Blame that fucking Ragu eater I’m serious SC judge Catholicism is ethical poison

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47533075)



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Date: March 27th, 2024 9:26 PM
Author: Stimulating Shitlib Meetinghouse

Surely the government will use more censorship powers wisely and justly, not sure why Scalia was so against banning this largely irrelevant bad thing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47533595)



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Date: March 27th, 2024 7:09 PM
Author: Obsidian bull headed church building knife

no it would be legal, in fact John Ashcroft took this issue to court during the Bush Administration and got assfucked by the 1st Amendment

every case where someone's arrested for CP and they have simulated CP and lolicon on their computer, that stuff is just tacked on to make them look more evil; they're always getting arrested for ACTUAL CP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47533081)



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Date: March 27th, 2024 7:27 PM
Author: Magical brunch

For anyone here posting fantasy SP pedo shit I think that’s a distinction without a difference.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47533144)



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Date: March 27th, 2024 10:25 PM
Author: Obsidian bull headed church building knife

I don't know what SP is but I'm guessing it's South Park

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47533732)



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Date: March 28th, 2024 12:17 AM
Author: motley cruise ship circlehead

The court results / statutes on this are inconsistent iirc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47534043)



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Date: March 27th, 2024 5:51 PM
Author: free-loading giraffe

because no children were involved, which is why AI kiddie porn will be totally cool (and legal).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47532815)



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Date: March 27th, 2024 5:57 PM
Author: Cowardly stock car

There’s no way that will be allowed especially if it’s impossible to tell the difference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47532834)



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Date: March 27th, 2024 6:31 PM
Author: Magical brunch

It’s allowed now. Trump has been bought on this issue.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47532956)



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Date: March 27th, 2024 7:10 PM
Author: Obsidian bull headed church building knife

it's already ubiquitous on 4chan and has been for like a year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47533085)



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Date: March 27th, 2024 7:21 PM
Author: Magical brunch

It will get busted soon enough. Once we realize pedophiles should die.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47533120)



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Date: March 27th, 2024 10:29 PM
Author: Obsidian bull headed church building knife

> if it’s impossible to tell the difference

the fucked up thing that currently juries are allowed to look at a pic and say "yeah that's a kid" and convict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47533744)



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Date: March 28th, 2024 12:22 AM
Author: motley cruise ship circlehead

I’m pretty sure some states have laws against computer generated CP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47534057)



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Date: March 27th, 2024 6:28 PM
Author: Magical brunch

There’s legal and there’s violations of private commercial standards. One can find a site in Russia if you don’t care about being a patriot. Good luck with current legislation on that point.

And then there’s grooming.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47532948)



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Date: March 27th, 2024 6:59 PM
Author: hyperactive infuriating fanboi

(pedophilia caselaw expert)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47533040)



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Date: March 27th, 2024 7:05 PM
Author: Magical brunch

Yes I am plagued by projecting pedos I had no idea people are so fhcking crazy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47533068)



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Date: March 27th, 2024 7:01 PM
Author: sick degenerate

is it "legal" to purchase an asian child, traffic him back to the united states, and repeatedly rape him while bragging about it on the internet?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47533047)



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Date: March 27th, 2024 7:05 PM
Author: translucent lay

legal? they give you a tax credit. sick society

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47533067)



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Date: March 27th, 2024 7:07 PM
Author: Magical brunch

It is not. Only a retarded pedophile would think otherwise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47533077)



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Date: March 27th, 2024 7:30 PM
Author: Umber garrison hissy fit

Is it legal? It should not be

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47533154)



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Date: March 27th, 2024 7:32 PM
Author: Magical brunch

I agree with you.

It is legal per se. But that is different from the question of whether it violates a private company’s policies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47533162)



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Date: March 27th, 2024 7:47 PM
Author: metal galvanic locale

Wtf are you sick freaks talking about. ANY depictions including fakes are illegal. There was a case some years back of a guy who had DRAWN cp and just had it in his house, and he was locked up. No different than pics.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47533220)



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Date: March 27th, 2024 10:32 PM
Author: Obsidian bull headed church building knife

there's literally a supreme court case called Ashcroft v Free Speech Coalition that specifically held that fake CP is legal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47533748)



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Date: March 27th, 2024 11:00 PM
Author: Magical brunch

You aren’t helping

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47533832)



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Date: March 28th, 2024 12:09 AM
Author: Obsidian bull headed church building knife

giving people the truth is by definition helping

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47534017)



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Date: March 27th, 2024 11:07 PM
Author: metal galvanic locale

Sorry bro ur done here

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PROTECT_Act_of_2003

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47533850)



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Date: March 28th, 2024 12:09 AM
Author: Obsidian bull headed church building knife

read your own link

> the court did not reverse its holding in Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition as to virtual child pornography which is not obscene under the Miller standard. [27]

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47534016)



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Date: March 27th, 2024 9:11 PM
Author: multi-colored toilet seat menage

Why does SP know so much about CP ITT?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47533534)



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Date: March 27th, 2024 9:18 PM
Author: cracking stage pervert

SPACEPORN = RAPE SON CP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47533563)



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Date: March 28th, 2024 12:29 AM
Author: Bearded Lime Site Really Tough Guy

🤯

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47534075)



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Date: March 28th, 2024 12:25 PM
Author: translucent lay

wild coincidence



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47534791)



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Date: March 28th, 2024 12:54 PM
Author: Arousing offensive scourge upon the earth sex offender



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47534867)



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Date: March 28th, 2024 12:10 AM
Author: appetizing factory reset button market

Gas all jews

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47534021)



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Date: March 28th, 2024 4:05 PM
Author: Beady-eyed gay wizard plaza

There isn't a constitutional distinction between visual and literary or between depictions of minors and adults. There is a distinction between acts and words (1A doesn't protect actual child abuse) and a distinction for obscenity. Literotica (like most porn) can potentially be prosecuted under state obscenity laws regardless of whether it is visual or literary, and regardles of whether it depicts minors. The law at issue in the Ashcroft case was too broad, and not limited to obscenity or other exceptions. SCOTUS gave the example of Romeo and Juliette or various movies that depict sex acts involving minors, but which don't fall under the obscenity exception to 1a.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510087&forum_id=2#47535003)