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GunneraTTT, why does Discover need discovery as to whether TSINAH paid them?

Shouldn't they be able to determine this from their own reco...
Internet-worthy toaster school cafeteria
  04/03/24
Everyone needs discovery brother.
rose institution lettuce
  04/03/24
It pays to discover
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  04/03/24
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Dashing Piazza Messiness
  04/03/24
zzz, despite spending two years clerking in shitlaw and four...
Talented stage voyeur
  04/03/24
you seem really dumb no offense
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  04/03/24
it's an odd case that candy ride, mystery pumos, etc. never ...
Talented stage voyeur
  04/03/24
Pumos are scum news at 11
rose institution lettuce
  04/03/24
why are you responding to the libpumo
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  04/03/24
fuck man how am i supposed to know which quotemo is which? i...
Talented stage voyeur
  04/03/24
You just did it again
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  04/03/24
"I Still Unload": This Man Is a "Nullo" ...
Nubile pit
  04/03/24
oh, and if you're asking why they need discovery and cannot ...
Talented stage voyeur
  04/03/24
So TSINAH will lie in an affidavit or declaration or make a ...
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  04/03/24
i can't parse your lisping here but your low-iq socrates sch...
Talented stage voyeur
  04/03/24
I don't know what the evidence is. Why would I make a wager?
Internet-worthy toaster school cafeteria
  04/03/24
because the case is a failure as a matter of law. the judge ...
Talented stage voyeur
  04/03/24
Discover's lawyer should have just said that then in their m...
Internet-worthy toaster school cafeteria
  04/03/24
Discover is in court all the time it's immaterial to them to...
rose institution lettuce
  04/03/24
yeah the discover attorney could've prepared better but i'm ...
Talented stage voyeur
  04/03/24
Isn't the entire basis of tsinah's claim that the debt was b...
Internet-worthy toaster school cafeteria
  04/03/24
I don't think Discover's lawyer is the next Perry Mason, but...
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  04/03/24
i can never decide if Candy Ride is a skillful flame artist ...
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Same
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rose institution lettuce
  04/03/24
the past two days have revealed to a certainty he's zzz.
Talented stage voyeur
  04/03/24
I asked ZZZ yesterday if he's Candy Ride and he said no
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  04/03/24
ironically this is the same argument he's using as to why an...
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  04/03/24
Not sure if you're using "ironically" correct here...
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  04/03/24
if i am, it's because someone else logged into my account an...
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  04/03/24
I'm not a shitlawyer, so I kind of wonder about the shaggy d...
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  04/03/24
Wouldn't that evidence already be attached to a declaration ...
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  04/03/24
Welcome to state court. We hold it back until the hearing i...
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  04/03/24
Or longer apparently
hateful library mexican
  04/03/24
lol yep. Not sure what was going on there.
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  04/03/24
Why?
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the issue was that the evidence didn't list the counterparty...
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  04/03/24
Most courts would treat that defense as a “feigned iss...
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you pee sitting down and fart cum from your asshole
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  04/03/24
But we caught you on the transfer Wasn't me Matched yo...
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Talented stage voyeur
  04/03/24
There’s a slight standard that this would not overcome...
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Tsinah must have been on cloud 9 that day to be generics eno...
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I've never seen a thread backfire quite like this OP.
rose institution lettuce
  04/03/24
candy ride has blown past spaceporn's record of stubborn ret...
Talented stage voyeur
  04/03/24
I am assuming you aren't a lawyer.
Internet-worthy toaster school cafeteria
  04/03/24
are you still here? why did you ask me a question and not re...
Talented stage voyeur
  04/03/24
You gave a nonsense answer.
Internet-worthy toaster school cafeteria
  04/03/24
Absolutely devastating. Imagine *not* being a lawcuck. What ...
rose institution lettuce
  04/03/24
gunneratttt apparently thinks it is perfectly normal to seek...
swashbuckling idiotic alpha fanboi
  04/03/24
(Not in house counsel for fortune 500 company with hundreds ...
rose institution lettuce
  04/03/24
And that's really a loss for the other side because the fema...
Internet-worthy toaster school cafeteria
  04/03/24
Don't forget that the judge noted that if Discover were to d...
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  04/03/24
😝
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  04/03/24
why are only mystery pumos and unknown sudos coming out to b...
Talented stage voyeur
  04/03/24
gunnerattt: "Candy Ride refuses to engage the substance...
swashbuckling idiotic alpha fanboi
  04/03/24
it's been addressed multiple times. i suspect this is some c...
Talented stage voyeur
  04/03/24
Oh wow, the judge recited the standard for a MSJ. That's hu...
swashbuckling idiotic alpha fanboi
  04/03/24
not what happened. are you thinking about when the judge ben...
Talented stage voyeur
  04/03/24
Yeah, she seems pissed that she didn't get to do it.
swashbuckling idiotic alpha fanboi
  04/03/24
she seemed pissed that a retard was wasting the court's time...
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  04/03/24
By that do you mean Discover's MSJ that it lacked the eviden...
swashbuckling idiotic alpha fanboi
  04/03/24
discover counsel made a grievous error when she assumed a li...
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  04/03/24
Yes, ZZZ is such a bad lawyer that he defeated the opposing ...
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  04/03/24
perhaps if you learned why a dismissal without prejudice isn...
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  04/03/24
Thanks, but I think I'm not going to take litigation lessons...
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  04/03/24
obviously, a failure to learn from your mistakes is probably...
Talented stage voyeur
  04/03/24
I make seven figures. How about you?
swashbuckling idiotic alpha fanboi
  04/03/24
8, actually.
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  04/03/24
I doubt it. I really do make seven figures annually from pr...
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are the seven figures like your bates stamping? do you make ...
Talented stage voyeur
  04/03/24
I make more than a million dollars annually from the practic...
swashbuckling idiotic alpha fanboi
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i just told you i make more than ten million dollars annuall...
Talented stage voyeur
  04/03/24
Yes, but you were lying. Now that I've been honest with you...
swashbuckling idiotic alpha fanboi
  04/03/24
i bet you wanted epah's sanctions to fail, but as you're lea...
Talented stage voyeur
  04/03/24
I've been saying for years, literally years, that Candy Ride...
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yeah but now we get to see him be retarded in open court
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  04/03/24
It's not that uncommon. I've had 2 MSJs exactly how you desc...
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it's absolutely routine, especially in nuisance cases like t...
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  04/03/24
I'm saying it's routine even on cases that aren't frivolous....
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oh yeah, i get it. outside of major cases you typically don'...
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  04/03/24
how much was the loan
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balance is less than 11k (original loan was less than 9k but...
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Date: April 3rd, 2024 11:54 AM
Author: Internet-worthy toaster school cafeteria

Shouldn't they be able to determine this from their own records?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551480)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 11:56 AM
Author: rose institution lettuce

Everyone needs discovery brother.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551486)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:09 PM
Author: rose institution lettuce

It pays to discover

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551521)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 2:15 PM
Author: Dashing Piazza Messiness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47552070)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:04 PM
Author: Talented stage voyeur

zzz, despite spending two years clerking in shitlaw and four years pretending to run a shitlaw firm, you still don't seem to "get" it.

this is a nuisance suit for discover. it's not unusual for them to not be super prepared (although they did manage to cite all their authority correctly, unlike you). because discover counsel is likely in that court constantly it's nbd for her to return at the next hearing provide what, yes, they can obviously acquire very easily. and the judge said as much.

i challenged you twice in that thread to place a wager on the outcome of this case. would you like to take advantage of that offer now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551506)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:07 PM
Author: excitant unhinged business firm people who are hurt

you seem really dumb no offense

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551515)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:14 PM
Author: Talented stage voyeur

it's an odd case that candy ride, mystery pumos, etc. never want to address something head on. it's always "wow ur dumb", "what's ur lsat?", "what law school did you go to?"

it's clear to everyone that it's because you can't make an argument without revealing you're retarded. this is why everyone here recognizes you as retarded. responding with "lol what's ur lsat?" isn't the brutal pwnage you think it is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551544)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:15 PM
Author: rose institution lettuce

Pumos are scum news at 11

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551548)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:26 PM
Author: excitant unhinged business firm people who are hurt

why are you responding to the libpumo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551597)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:27 PM
Author: Talented stage voyeur

fuck man how am i supposed to know which quotemo is which? i'm just done responding to the one making all the low effort lib threads. i can't help it if you show up in an unrelated thread!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551609)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:41 PM
Author: excitant unhinged business firm people who are hurt

You just did it again

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551668)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:42 PM
Author: Nubile pit

"I Still Unload": This Man Is a "Nullo" Who Removed His Penis and Balls

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10/16/14 11:10AM

Filed to: INTERVIEWS

In 1994, a South Florida man who goes by the name Gelding was surgically castrated. In 2011, he had his penis removed as well. He's a "nullo": A cisgender man who removes his external genitalia completely as a form of body modification, and he recently agreed to answer our questions—from "why?" to "what do balls taste like?"

Gelding is a nudist and describes himself as a submissive bear. Apart from his desire to use a pseudonym, he let it all hang out (so to speak) when I reached out to him and graciously answered every question I had.

Is nullo your preferred term to describe yourself and others like you who are castrated and have removed their penis?

Yes, the reason that we use that it is not transgender. It's simply nullification of what you've got. A friend of mine Mack in San Francisco likes to use the term "mascunull", because I remain as masculine as they come with fur and so forth. But I no longer have the parts.

What are some misconceptions people have about nullos?

A few men don't know their own physiology to the point where they think if they lose their balls they can't come any more. And that's false. If you look at the physiology you see that the fluids are made by the seminal vesicles and the prostate. Very little of the fluid and the content is produced in the testes. I still unload.

But the active ingredient for impregnating someone isn't there.

Right.

Do you get a lot of people who think you're trying to become a woman?

Absolutely. And it's mostly the medical profession who sees the sexes as either male or female. And anyone who wants to alter any part of that is in some way suffering from gender dysphoria. They don't like themselves for some reason and they want to change gender. And that's absolutely false.

It's not a dysphoria. I see it in the positive way of working toward something, rather than away from something. Many of the guys instead of putting a negative feel on it see it as a positive. Being castrated is a positive to them. Rather than removing something that they dislike, they are moving in the direction that they want. I went through a long set of psychological evaluation sessions with a psychologist here in town, because that was necessary in order to have the penis removed.

You've previously discussed your 1994 castration. However, I didn't find anything on your penis removal in 2011. Can you talk about that?

I knew I was uncomfortable in having frankly large male parts. I would quite often sit on my own balls because they were loose unless I wore something tight and held them in I would sit on them and squash them. That got me into trouble playing soccer in college when they forced us to wear these hard plastic cups. What happened was I fell on a guy's upright knee with the weight of another player behind me, so two of us fell on the knee. The knee happened to hit the middle of the plastic cup and imploded and tore me up. I was severely injured.

The doctor saved everything but over a period of time the nerves gave me some problems and I had aches in my testicles all the time. When I was in the military service they tried doing a varicose vein removal but that didn't help, it just made matters worse. They thought I was suffering from varicose veins. So after leaving the service I had them removed. And that removed that little problem but I still had the nerve sensations in the penis which woke me up at night. So I could get erect, but it was painful.

So I talked with my urologist and he said the only treatment for that was to make it numb, which is very dangerous because if you make something like that numb then you don't know if it's infected for some reason. Or remove it, but to do that he needs to cover his ass and asked for a psychological evaluation. And my own doctor is a professor at Nova Southeastern University here in. She is the most brilliant doctor I've ever met. So, I asked her about this problem and she was very forthright and said "well, we'll have to treat you". She didn't consider it something that was wrong with me, she said "we have to investigate." I went to see a psychiatrist and he spent a good 90 minutes with me and said "yes, I have just the person that can work with you." So the psychologist did a battery of personality tests and said "you're perfectly fine, your only problem is that you've got these physical problems which work on your nerves." And I said "yeah." And he said "it also works with your personality" because I'm a gay submissive and I always have been and it wasn't working right. So in order to to fix it I worked toward a goal of having things removed. And that was it. I'm working in a positive way to solve my own personal problem.

But was castration something you were contemplating prior to the injury?

Yes. For whatever reason I was always embarrassed by the size of what I had. It didn't fit my personality.

Do you remember when you the fantasy to remove your testicles first occurred?

I had a baby face in high school, there was one of these bullies and he said "you have a man's equipment but you're still a boy" and he squeezed my balls in the shower. He was on the football team, I was on the soccer team showering together and he said "you shouldn't have such big equipment" so he squeezed my balls and at that point it was just a fantasy for me. So how about getting rid of them for some reason?

When did it go from fantasy to aspiration?

It became a fetish thing where I would do sort of more self destructive things with them like putting rubber bands around them and needles through the balls and whatnot. It's a progression which a lot of guys go through. It's something that works on them and they say "Well, how about if we just have them off? Then I won't be bothered by this constant urge to hurt them". And this is where a psychologist gets into the dysphoria. It's very difficult to distinguish whether it's a dislike for something or instead you're working towards something else. I always thought when I was on the beach—I was also on the swim team—and we had Speedos, it was difficult to pack everything in frankly. I would be embarrassed and everybody was looking and here I am and I've got the biggest package and I'm not the biggest guy and I got a whole lot of looks from everybody.

I had a big dick, it got damaged and I was a bottom. I didn't want to use it, I got pushed into using it, I had to take all sorts of medications and was tired of being somebody else's tool.

Broadly speaking, how can someone know that being a nullo is something they actually want to go through with as opposed to something they fantasize about?

That's something really for a psychologist to answer, but in talking to all the guys that I've been talking with, they try to come up with all sorts of different rationalizations to justify it. In my case, my medical situation really didn't justify it because I was just uncomfortable with what I had. It wasn't medically necessary. But I felt that I would be much more comfortable having the issues of having the sensation but not being able to use it well. It was something like a guy having a useless appendage and it's something he has to carry around, and it becomes baggage after a while.

If someone starts/botches the process on their own, what would you recommend they do? Should people use a cover story to avoid getting in trouble?

No. Go to the emergency room. Today, they have been exposed to a lot more of the literature out there than they were 20 years ago. They're not going to be institutionalized. I mean years ago they used to institutionalize guys that were gay.

How would you say the breakdown is between gay and straight men for nullos?

I would have to say it's mostly gays. I don't know of a straight guy who became a nullo.

You had said in a previous interview that for castrations it's about a two to one for gay to straight men that decide to do it.

I've heard of a couple of straight guys who decided that they were making too many babies so they had their balls off so they could take testosterone and continue. I know quite a few bodybuilders both gay and straight whose testes have shrunk because of the steroids they are taking which are bad for their health. So they got castrated and now they're on medically injected testosterone which is good for them. It's not as harmful as oral steroids are or some of the other shit that they're pumping into themselves.

How would you recommend people do their penectomy and castration?

In the last couple of years, my friend Mack from San Francisco ran into Dr. Crane from Brownstein & Crane and he met him, and I don't know how the two of them had the discussion, and then I had a phone interview with Dr. Crane and I explained my situation with him and now Dr. Crane is no longer doing just transgender type of procedures but [also] genital modifications.

So in a way, you educated him.

The protocol that the doctors use for transgender people is called the Harry Benjamin protocol. So for example Dr. Reed in Miami, before you go to his clinic you have to take female hormones for six months and show some development of breasts and whatnot, some feminine characteristics before he will deal with you. And why do that when you simply want to get the genitals removed?

If anything, wouldn't additional testosterone be what you'd need after castration?

Men who get castrated, they do get depressed if they don't start fairly right away on testosterone. Because the falling hormone causes hot flashes first of all, and then the loss of libido. You lose all interest in sex and everything else.

Are there any changes that occur to the body as a result?

Body changes are minimal really. If you lose your balls, you won't lose all your hair.

What about voice? Is that a myth?

Voice doesn't change, no. The larynx is a hard tissue, and the voice box and everything else is a hard tissue. But the timbre of your voice is a factor of the larynx. I sang in the college choir, I know about these things.

One thing I noticed while reading testimonials is that many people seem to try their hand at castration and penectomy but then go to the doctor only if it goes wrong. How much of this would you say is due to the medical profession's reluctance to remove healthy body parts and how much is due to people's general fear of discussing this type of thing with their doctor or therapist?

You know about the Hippocratic oath right? "First do no harm". They have to be convinced that what they are doing is in fact an improvement on your health. Which is why the surgeon is requesting a psychological evaluation. And the psychologist comes back and says "yeah, he's going to be uncomfortable where he is, he's going to be more improved, better mood, better this, better that" and so forth. So from a totality point of view, it's going to get better after he gets modified.

And let me tell you my mood has improved dramatically since going nullo. I don't miss the baggage. I don't miss the fact that I get into sex with a guy, he expects me to perform in some ways, now he doesn't have that expectation. In fact, quite a few guys find it very arousing that they don't have to have that distraction.

Are there other benefits?

Another thing is, guys who are aroused by my situation are very aroused. I've got some guys who are pursuing me a lot. And they just like this idea, because there's nothing there to be in the way. Face to face fucking is very pleasurable. And when they're doing that I actually wet their stomachs with my fluids. And this one guy, he likes to go down on me. He's a bi guy and he said he does this with his girlfriend so he goes down there and starts licking me. And he just loves that idea. He loves the idea that I have a hairy chest and what is to him a very tiny vagina that he can't fuck but he can lick and he can enjoy being the male role. I've even got a straight guy here in town who likes to fuck me because I don't have any male genitals and he doesn't feel threatened by that.

Are there any downsides?

One of the most obvious cons is I have to sit to pee, or I have to use one of these female urination devices. It's an odd funnel shaped device that you can use if there's only a men's urinal. Also, some times I get urinary tract infections. There's a shorter path to the bladder through what I've got now. So I've got to be very careful and keep it clean. I can't get guy fingering me down there because it's the inside of the urethra so it's sensitive.

Do you ever get "phantom dick" syndrome when you are reaching for it out of habit?

A lot of the nerves are bundled on the base of the penis where most of the sensation comes from. It's not along the length of penis but on the base of the penis is where most of the sensations are. And I wake up in the morning with a feeling that I have a big dick that's erect.

In your experience, what percentage of castrations are done by non-medical professionals? How about penectomies? What are the safety risks for each? Would you say one is more difficult than the other for a layman?

I would above three quarters [by non-medical professionals]. And that number is lower than say twenty years ago. There are not as many today.

Which are not as many?

The amateur cutters. There are a lot of wannabes that are successful that manage to stay below the radar of the authorities because they run into trouble because of their lack of skill. Because if you mess up there are problems there. But if you're very careful in choosing the men you work with so that you have very low risk involved, which is age (you don't do old men), you don't do very overweight men, you don't do men who smoke, who don't take drugs and anything else. If you take these fairly low-risk guys and you do it well, then there won't be any problems. Once these guys get castrated, most of them simply become very private and they don't brag about things. They sort of withdraw from pursuing anything else because they've reached their goal.

So is the the percentage of amateur cutters lower today due to more people with medical training performing castrations?

Yes. They are finding that there is a living in this if they do it among other things.

How about with penectomies? I would imagine (and hope!) there's fewer amateurs performing these.

Almost all of them are done by medical professionals. That's tricky, yeah. More tricky. It's sort of major surgery and it's been done by some amateurs. They're fairly good with their surgical techniques. I was actually at one and the guy did a fairly good job but it took a long time and it was a very involved, very slow process. I've heard of only three or four done by cutters in the past and they have left active participation in this.

When you do a penectomy you have to re-route the urethra, yes?

Yes, what I did with this is I knew where I was going with this in 1999 and I contacted my urologist in Hollywood [Florida], an old guy who was just about to retire and I talked to him very carefully and said "in the future I'm going to want the penis removed". And he said "OK, we can do a urethral relocation in the base of the penis".

So how do things like ejaculation and urination work when you've rerouted the urethra and no longer use the penis for them?

With ejaculation, just before you reach the peak, all the fluid is there at the base of the penis, and right before orgasm happens it's the urethra that acts like a rail gun and expels the semen. So when you don't use the penis, there's no force behind it. It just flows out.

What happens to the body parts after removal?

Quite a few [cutters] collect them. They preserve them, they put them in jars. One guy embedded his in plastic and now it's an ornament somewhere. This typically happens when you're in a master/slave dominant/submissive relationship and the submissive gives up his balls to his partner for keepsake. And then you get into this S&M thing where the dominant partner controls and regulates the libido of the submissive. Especially if the submissive is on say androgel where the turnaround time from full sexiness to limp dick is about on the order of a week. The reaction time for the transdermal is very fast. Whereas the injections wear off after two to three weeks. The half life of the testosterone I'm taking is eight days.

You mentioned consumption of body parts in another interview. Is that for real?

It is for real, yes. Some guys do that. Think about the Testy Festy, where they go there and every year there they have concentration of people who are into eating sheep and bull nuts and rocky mountain oysters. I know a few cutters that don't charge anything for their work, the only charge they have is that they get the nuts afterwards.

Is this something that you've tasted?

Yes, as a matter of fact they do taste a little like chicken. Actually I would have to say they taste as much like chicken as they do roast pork. But it all depends on how you cook them. If you cook them in salted butter then they might be saltier than they might otherwise be.

How do you like them cooked?

I went to a cutter's place and he was having an event where he cut a number of guys and I was assisting him there. And what I did is I cooked them up in some butter with some mushrooms. Quite good with a nice red merlot wine.

Cheers to that, Gelding.

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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:10 PM
Author: Talented stage voyeur

oh, and if you're asking why they need discovery and cannot just use their own records, it's obviously because you and tsinah can dispute that the transaction took place. i can't just provide my own business records to resolve a disputed factual issue. that's why the judge said discover will have to request an admission.

i have no clue whether the transaction occurred, although i suspect it did since you didn't highlight it in your filings or argument. if it did occur, i guess you have the option to have your client perjure himself. if it didn't, then a genuine issue of material fact exists.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551526)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:47 PM
Author: Internet-worthy toaster school cafeteria

So TSINAH will lie in an affidavit or declaration or make a fake record, but he won't deny a request for admission that he should?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551687)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:53 PM
Author: Talented stage voyeur

i can't parse your lisping here but your low-iq socrates schtick where you just ask questions instead of addressing the merits is very droll. it's an easy to identify tactic where retards avoid ever taking a position or making an argument to avoid ever being wrong.

i offered to make a wager. or you can tell me what your position is. i'm not playing fifty questions with the most historically retarded poaster on xo.

edit: and please stop making multiple subthreads on the same topic like you just did below. it's hard enough to keep track of your retarded lisping, don't make it harder by replying to the same comment multiple times.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551708)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:55 PM
Author: Internet-worthy toaster school cafeteria

I don't know what the evidence is. Why would I make a wager?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551715)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:57 PM
Author: Talented stage voyeur

because the case is a failure as a matter of law. the judge is just trying to dispose of it an efficient way to avoid addressing the merits of your babbling. even if tsinah didn't make the 2020 payment this case is doomed. which is why i am confident that if this is resolved on the merits you will lose.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551737)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 1:01 PM
Author: Internet-worthy toaster school cafeteria

Discover's lawyer should have just said that then in their msj that they took their time to draft and the court's time to hear and decide.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551757)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 1:03 PM
Author: rose institution lettuce

Discover is in court all the time it's immaterial to them to kick the can down the line. This is just a reset to them. They're costing your client money while costing themselves nothing. They have hundreds of these in the pipeline.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551769)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 1:05 PM
Author: Talented stage voyeur

yeah the discover attorney could've prepared better but i'm not surprised as this happens routinely when you're dealing with nuisance cases.

any comment on why you miscited your primary authority and when the judge managed to find it she spent three seconds reading it before saying it doesn't support your argument at all?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551773)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:50 PM
Author: Internet-worthy toaster school cafeteria

Isn't the entire basis of tsinah's claim that the debt was barred by the SOL? Wouldn't they put together at least the basic evidence to show why that wasn't the case? Do you think Discover's lawyers are incompetent?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551697)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:56 PM
Author: Emerald flirting chapel

I don't think Discover's lawyer is the next Perry Mason, but at least all her citations were correct.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551726)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:08 PM
Author: Tripping Pocket Flask Forum

i can never decide if Candy Ride is a skillful flame artist or a deranged shitlawyer. its a great effect.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551517)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:09 PM
Author: Twinkling casino

Same

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551520)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:10 PM
Author: dead electric gaming laptop faggotry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551524)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:10 PM
Author: rose institution lettuce



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551525)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:11 PM
Author: Talented stage voyeur

the past two days have revealed to a certainty he's zzz.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551530)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:15 PM
Author: hateful library mexican

I asked ZZZ yesterday if he's Candy Ride and he said no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551546)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:19 PM
Author: Talented stage voyeur

ironically this is the same argument he's using as to why an eft-ach transaction debited from tsinah's account wasn't from tsinah. i think candy ride/zzz went to the shaggy school of law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551564)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:31 PM
Author: hateful library mexican

Not sure if you're using "ironically" correct here..

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551628)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:34 PM
Author: Talented stage voyeur

if i am, it's because someone else logged into my account and made that comment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551639)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:12 PM
Author: Emerald flirting chapel

I'm not a shitlawyer, so I kind of wonder about the shaggy defense here.

Discover comes back with a payment record and shows that "A payment was received from such and such an account, in TSINAH's name, on this date."

TSINAH: Wasn't me!!!

Does Discover actually have to go to TSINAH's bank at the time and subpoena the bank records? LJL @ this profession

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551531)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:14 PM
Author: hateful library mexican

Wouldn't that evidence already be attached to a declaration in support of a motion for summary judgment filed long before the motion was heard? Or did Discover file an MSJ without any declaration or evidence?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551542)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:25 PM
Author: cracking cruise ship

Welcome to state court. We hold it back until the hearing if we can

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551588)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:26 PM
Author: hateful library mexican

Or longer apparently

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551600)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:29 PM
Author: cracking cruise ship

lol yep. Not sure what was going on there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551619)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:47 PM
Author: Frum razzle-dazzle state wrinkle

Why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551691)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:18 PM
Author: Talented stage voyeur

the issue was that the evidence didn't list the counterparty's name. so yeah, you do have to get some sort of evidence that it was tsinah's account.

yes lol @ this profession but the judge did the right thing. candy ride/zzz are vexatious shitlitigants. she wants to make sure there is absolutely no hook for them to convince an appeals judge a genuine issue of material fact exists. it's like dealing with pro se sovereign citizens. you have to be very careful because they are going to autistically challenge everything forever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551556)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:19 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring comical organic girlfriend tattoo

Most courts would treat that defense as a “feigned issue of fact” on a motion for summary judgment, so long as Discover properly authenticated their records.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551563)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 1:19 PM
Author: Nubile pit

you pee sitting down and fart cum from your asshole

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551856)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:23 PM
Author: dead electric gaming laptop faggotry

But we caught you on the transfer

Wasn't me

Matched your name and account number

Wasn't me

Statement credit of five dollars

Wasn't me

You even paid us on camera

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551577)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:25 PM
Author: Talented stage voyeur



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551591)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:28 PM
Author: cracking cruise ship

There’s a slight standard that this would not overcome.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551615)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:29 PM
Author: Twinkling casino



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551617)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:31 PM
Author: rose institution lettuce



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551630)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:32 PM
Author: wonderful light heaven



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551634)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:56 PM
Author: Emerald flirting chapel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551720)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 2:49 PM
Author: Charismatic legend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47552206)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 1:02 PM
Author: Odious cerise native

Tsinah must have been on cloud 9 that day to be generics enough to make a loan payment

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551763)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:33 PM
Author: rose institution lettuce

I've never seen a thread backfire quite like this OP.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551636)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:46 PM
Author: Talented stage voyeur

candy ride has blown past spaceporn's record of stubborn retardation. this is like watching someone break the 4-mile mile barrier, except they do it by like 15 seconds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551682)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:46 PM
Author: Internet-worthy toaster school cafeteria

I am assuming you aren't a lawyer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551685)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:47 PM
Author: Talented stage voyeur

are you still here? why did you ask me a question and not respond? also why, 72 hours later, are you *SO* personally invested in zzz and tsinah's case?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551690)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:48 PM
Author: Internet-worthy toaster school cafeteria

You gave a nonsense answer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551695)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 12:56 PM
Author: rose institution lettuce

Absolutely devastating. Imagine *not* being a lawcuck. What do these people even do? How are their lives worth living?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551724)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 1:04 PM
Author: swashbuckling idiotic alpha fanboi

gunneratttt apparently thinks it is perfectly normal to seek a MSJ based on facts for which one has no evidence, lose the motion, then fish for the facts needed afterward through discovery

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551771)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 1:06 PM
Author: rose institution lettuce

(Not in house counsel for fortune 500 company with hundreds of cases on the docket kicking the can down the line on a loser case for the opposition while collecting 6 figure check and living a fratty and chill life)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551778)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 1:06 PM
Author: Internet-worthy toaster school cafeteria

And that's really a loss for the other side because the female judge was bitchy to them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551780)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 1:10 PM
Author: swashbuckling idiotic alpha fanboi

Don't forget that the judge noted that if Discover were to demonstrate that there exists no genuine dispute as to material facts and it's entitled to judgement as a matter of law, a MSJ could be granted. That's huge, apparently.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551809)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 1:15 PM
Author: Internet-worthy toaster school cafeteria

😝

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551829)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 1:07 PM
Author: Talented stage voyeur

why are only mystery pumos and unknown sudos coming out to back candy ride? where's voodoo child, flw, etc. that always pile on when one of them is attacked? where's his client tsinah?

this is a law forum. why are no known sudos agreeing with candy ride/zzz?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551787)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 1:12 PM
Author: swashbuckling idiotic alpha fanboi

gunnerattt: "Candy Ride refuses to engage the substance and responds only with non sequiturs!"

also gunneratttt: "Only mystery pumos side with Candy Ride."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551818)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 1:18 PM
Author: Talented stage voyeur

it's been addressed multiple times. i suspect this is some candy ride alt or friend too scared to post under a sudo. if you're declaring victory because the judge denied the msj without prejudice while telling defense *exactly* what she needs and saying she *expected her to come back*, that's quite sad. at least 10 poasters attended the hearing and it was obvious to all what an embarrassment it was for candy ride. it's insane you're still here trying to declare victory.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551846)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 1:39 PM
Author: swashbuckling idiotic alpha fanboi

Oh wow, the judge recited the standard for a MSJ. That's huge.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551940)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 1:40 PM
Author: Talented stage voyeur

not what happened. are you thinking about when the judge benchslapped candy ride for reciting the standard for msj to her?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551947)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 1:43 PM
Author: swashbuckling idiotic alpha fanboi

Yeah, she seems pissed that she didn't get to do it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551956)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 1:44 PM
Author: Talented stage voyeur

she seemed pissed that a retard was wasting the court's time on vexatious shitlitigation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551963)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 1:53 PM
Author: swashbuckling idiotic alpha fanboi

By that do you mean Discover's MSJ that it lacked the evidence for?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47552003)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 2:07 PM
Author: Talented stage voyeur

discover counsel made a grievous error when she assumed a licensed attorney could never be as retarded as zzz and claim a disputed fact still exists over whether tsinah made a payment when she produces evidence a payment was made from an account held by tsinah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47552047)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 2:15 PM
Author: swashbuckling idiotic alpha fanboi

Yes, ZZZ is such a bad lawyer that he defeated the opposing party's MSJ. A better lawyer would've taken judgement against his client right there. That makes perfect sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47552068)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 2:19 PM
Author: Talented stage voyeur

perhaps if you learned why a dismissal without prejudice isn't a defeat you would not have embarrassed yourself in court by arguing tsinah's debt was discharged when discover's previous collection attempt was dismissed because of improper service.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47552097)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 2:22 PM
Author: swashbuckling idiotic alpha fanboi

Thanks, but I think I'm not going to take litigation lessons from a guy who thinks good lawyering consists of letting an MSJ get granted against one's own client

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47552105)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 2:33 PM
Author: Talented stage voyeur

obviously, a failure to learn from your mistakes is probably the biggest reason i'm where i am and you're where you are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47552138)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 2:35 PM
Author: swashbuckling idiotic alpha fanboi

I make seven figures. How about you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47552149)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 2:36 PM
Author: Talented stage voyeur

8, actually.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47552155)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 2:40 PM
Author: swashbuckling idiotic alpha fanboi

I doubt it. I really do make seven figures annually from practicing law. How about you? Don't be shy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47552170)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 2:43 PM
Author: Talented stage voyeur

are the seven figures like your bates stamping? do you make 0050000 seven figures?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47552191)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 2:44 PM
Author: swashbuckling idiotic alpha fanboi

I make more than a million dollars annually from the practice of law. That's where I am. Where are you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47552194)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 2:51 PM
Author: Talented stage voyeur

i just told you i make more than ten million dollars annually from the practice of law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47552210)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 2:52 PM
Author: swashbuckling idiotic alpha fanboi

Yes, but you were lying. Now that I've been honest with you, I want you to be honest with me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47552211)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 3:00 PM
Author: Talented stage voyeur

i bet you wanted epah's sanctions to fail, but as you're learning we don't always get what we want bobby t.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47552229)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 1:30 PM
Author: histrionic hilarious school digit ratio

I've been saying for years, literally years, that Candy Ride/ZZZ is an abject moron.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551906)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 1:39 PM
Author: Talented stage voyeur

yeah but now we get to see him be retarded in open court

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551942)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 1:17 PM
Author: hateful library mexican

It's not that uncommon. I've had 2 MSJs exactly how you described filed against me recently by huge corporations

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551839)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 1:22 PM
Author: Talented stage voyeur

it's absolutely routine, especially in nuisance cases like this.

this is like a judge dismissing a motion without prejudice because you entered a date incorrectly and your opponent declaring victory.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551870)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 1:25 PM
Author: hateful library mexican

I'm saying it's routine even on cases that aren't frivolous. I have to oppose one that's entirely based on a video that doesn't show my client or the incident (we have a motion to compel video of actual incident on calendar). Defense never deposed my client and has no idea what she looks like. Video they produced was "authenticated" by an attorney at defense firm who was recently shitcanned.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551879)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 1:29 PM
Author: Talented stage voyeur

oh yeah, i get it. outside of major cases you typically don't spend hundreds of hours guessing which factual issues the judge feels precludes msj. i'm just saying that in frivolous cases it's especially common. of course discover counsel is going to just wait to see what the judge wants instead of compiling evidence for every conceivable factual issue.

pretty 180 shit there though. maybe zzz can authenticate that a good samaritan made the 2020 payment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551905)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 1:45 PM
Author: appetizing honey-headed stage nibblets

how much was the loan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551964)



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Date: April 3rd, 2024 1:46 PM
Author: Talented stage voyeur

balance is less than 11k (original loan was less than 9k but tsinah doesn't seem to have made sufficient payments to amortize it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512961&forum_id=2#47551973)