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The irreversible, long-term effects of childhood chemical castration

Also known as "the shit EPAH ignores."
bateful sanctuary
  04/23/24
His kids weren’t castrated OP
floppy scarlet hell
  04/23/24
What do you call it?
bateful sanctuary
  04/23/24
"Provide healthcare"
ruddy coffee pot
  04/23/24
By permanently maiming them.
bateful sanctuary
  04/23/24
have you read the Cass Report?
embarrassed to the bone community account
  04/23/24
I haven't, is it good?
ruddy coffee pot
  04/23/24
Yes, it's the definitive history and analysis. You should re...
embarrassed to the bone community account
  04/23/24
Dr. Hilary Cass recently published a nearly 400-page report ...
bateful sanctuary
  04/23/24
"Her opinion carries some significant weight." ...
ruddy coffee pot
  04/23/24
Of course not.
bateful sanctuary
  04/23/24
Have you read it? wouldn't you need to read it before opinin...
embarrassed to the bone community account
  04/23/24
That might be useful but I just saw some articles when it ca...
ruddy coffee pot
  04/23/24
This is bullshit. https://www.quackometer.net/blog/2...
Electric mildly autistic depressive range
  04/23/24
Idk man, why do you put such faith in a review on the intern...
ruddy coffee pot
  04/23/24
Didn't you reject the study without even reading it yourself...
Transparent antidepressant drug
  04/23/24
Nah, I just wasn't super-interested in it because I'm not a ...
ruddy coffee pot
  04/23/24
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2024/04/23/suzanne-mo...
Rough-skinned rehab selfie
  04/23/24
As a parent, reversing your child's basic biological systems...
Transparent antidepressant drug
  04/23/24
I wouldn't wish for my biggest enemy to be in this position....
Racy wrinkle
  04/23/24
...
Electric mildly autistic depressive range
  04/23/24
Okay, I've read it now. For the most part it's actually rea...
ruddy coffee pot
  04/23/24
Honestly as a med mal atty I can tell you they arent even ch...
floppy scarlet hell
  04/23/24


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Date: April 23rd, 2024 7:53 PM
Author: bateful sanctuary

Also known as "the shit EPAH ignores."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520882&forum_id=2#47605485)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 7:56 PM
Author: floppy scarlet hell

His kids weren’t castrated OP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520882&forum_id=2#47605498)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 8:02 PM
Author: bateful sanctuary

What do you call it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520882&forum_id=2#47605524)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 8:03 PM
Author: ruddy coffee pot

"Provide healthcare"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520882&forum_id=2#47605528)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 8:04 PM
Author: bateful sanctuary

By permanently maiming them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520882&forum_id=2#47605531)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 8:04 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone community account

have you read the Cass Report?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520882&forum_id=2#47605532)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 8:05 PM
Author: ruddy coffee pot

I haven't, is it good?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520882&forum_id=2#47605540)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 8:06 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone community account

Yes, it's the definitive history and analysis. You should read it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520882&forum_id=2#47605545)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 8:06 PM
Author: bateful sanctuary

Dr. Hilary Cass recently published a nearly 400-page report on “gender identity services for children and young people”. The report, which was commissioned by the National Health Service (NHS) England roughly four years ago, found “remarkably weak evidence” to support the use of puberty blockers and hormone treatments for gender distressed children. The report also includes 32 specific recommendations on how gender services should operate in England.

Dr. Cass is not someone whose opinions can be easily dismissed. She enters this politically-charged arena with impressive credentials. Not only is Dr. Cass Chair of the Independent Review of Gender Identity Services, but she is past President of the Royal College of Pediatrics and Child Health, past Chair of the British Academy of Childhood Disability, and was awarded an Order of the British Empire (OBE) for her services and accomplishments. Her opinion carries some significant weight.

In conducting the review, Dr. Cass examined 50 studies on puberty blockers and 53 on hormone treatments. The “remarkably weak evidence” that these studies provide lead her to call for “extreme caution” in treating gender distressed kids.. This echoes the calls that Do No Harm has made to “review the research” behind pediatric gender medicine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520882&forum_id=2#47605546)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 8:08 PM
Author: ruddy coffee pot

"Her opinion carries some significant weight."

Not to me it doesn't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520882&forum_id=2#47605566)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 8:08 PM
Author: bateful sanctuary

Of course not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520882&forum_id=2#47605570)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 8:10 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone community account

Have you read it? wouldn't you need to read it before opining?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520882&forum_id=2#47605583)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 8:20 PM
Author: ruddy coffee pot

That might be useful but I just saw some articles when it came out. I'm reminded that I disagree with her methodology in reviewing studies showing hormone-related treatment beneficial by deeming them "low quality" since they weren't double-blind. But one would hardly want to do a longitudinal study by randomly injecting cis and transkids with Lupron just to see what happens to them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520882&forum_id=2#47605624)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 8:29 PM
Author: Electric mildly autistic depressive range

This is bullshit.

https://www.quackometer.net/blog/2024/04/breaking-down-cass-review-myths-and-misconceptions-what-you-need-to-know.html#MYTH1

But keep telling yourself what you need to, keep reading the slanted cult bullshit you need to read, to avoid confronting the possibility you harmed your children for the sake of being a good little shitlib.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520882&forum_id=2#47605651)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 9:13 PM
Author: ruddy coffee pot

Idk man, why do you put such faith in a review on the internet from some fellow goes by "Andy"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520882&forum_id=2#47605707)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 9:47 PM
Author: Transparent antidepressant drug

Didn't you reject the study without even reading it yourself? Was that based on reading something on the internet?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520882&forum_id=2#47605821)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 11:35 PM
Author: ruddy coffee pot

Nah, I just wasn't super-interested in it because I'm not a passionate advocate either way. I only have particular concern for my own kids, and they're past that.

Edit: But now I've read it. Doesn't seem hugely controversial, although the specific part on puberty blockers is ... weakly reasoned.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520882&forum_id=2#47606024)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 8:11 PM
Author: Rough-skinned rehab selfie

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2024/04/23/suzanne-moore-cass-review-report-cult/

People are in denial following the Cass report – it’s like deprogramming cult members

The reactions of gender zealots to their folly being exposed range from notably silent to dangerously delusional

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520882&forum_id=2#47605585)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 9:45 PM
Author: Transparent antidepressant drug

As a parent, reversing your child's basic biological systems because you were caught up in a social contagion is something you cannot admit to yourself. So you will cling ever harder to the notion that you did something heroic. To acknowledge the horror of what you've done is impossible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520882&forum_id=2#47605817)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 9:50 PM
Author: Racy wrinkle

I wouldn't wish for my biggest enemy to be in this position. Heart-wrenching and horrific to even ponder.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520882&forum_id=2#47605832)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 9:51 PM
Author: Electric mildly autistic depressive range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520882&forum_id=2#47605835)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 11:37 PM
Author: ruddy coffee pot

Okay, I've read it now. For the most part it's actually really reasonable, and not as portrayed by advocates on either side. It basically just says "there's lot of uncertainty around these things, and here's how we recommend the NHS proceed." Around 1/2 of it has to do specifically with NHS protocols and shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520882&forum_id=2#47606027)



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Date: April 23rd, 2024 8:05 PM
Author: floppy scarlet hell

Honestly as a med mal atty I can tell you they arent even chemically castrated yet. EPAH is just fucking w board cons.

If a doctor does that they end up giving the kid too small a neovagina to have sexual intercourse in the usual way because the penis is too small to build responsive depth in the channel.

He’s trifling w you. It’s amusing but he’s trifling. The little fucker.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5520882&forum_id=2#47605542)