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IDF wants a cease fire but Bibi can't do it

WSJ really trying to bury the lede: At the same time, N...
hot well-lubricated locale
  05/01/24
maybe electing a literal criminal who has a self interest in...
medicated plaza
  05/01/24
(longtime Trumpmo)
Bull Headed Dun Gay Wizard
  05/02/24
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Fear-inspiring big casino
  05/02/24
doesn't highlighting every word defeat the purpose of highli...
Plum Area
  05/01/24
If you don't like the highlights just ignore them
hot well-lubricated locale
  05/02/24
op's thread title isnt supported by the article. ding, fag.
Appetizing tattoo
  05/01/24
there will be a cease fire when hamas blood reddens every st...
out-of-control shaky indian lodge athletic conference
  05/01/24
This ends with 6 million more dead Jews unless you people cu...
Bull Headed Dun Gay Wizard
  05/02/24
based but seems like Israel's gonna have to cave to pressure...
Marvelous Frum Boltzmann
  05/02/24
israel is holding a LOT of arab hostages and has been for ye...
mischievous immigrant
  05/02/24
gee peeface, i feel like you are failing to appreciate the d...
out-of-control shaky indian lodge athletic conference
  05/02/24
no the guys kidnapping your father in the middle of the nigh...
mischievous immigrant
  05/02/24
but my father was a muslim terrorist scumball and deserved e...
out-of-control shaky indian lodge athletic conference
  05/02/24
i guess eventually his sons hangglide in and give some peopl...
mischievous immigrant
  05/02/24
The fucking night raids are evil shit
Crystalline contagious bawdyhouse
  05/02/24
that's fine, but then cry about the retaliation? yeah, no.
out-of-control shaky indian lodge athletic conference
  05/02/24
US troops building a port and delivering aid in total secrec...
hot well-lubricated locale
  05/02/24
I hope Bibi doesnt cuck. This war is the best thing to happe...
Trip brass goal in life
  05/02/24
He's cucking right now. He's a weak little bitch. He's still...
hot well-lubricated locale
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Date: May 1st, 2024 10:53 PM
Author: hot well-lubricated locale

WSJ really trying to bury the lede:

At the same time, Netanyahu remains in a very tight spot. Members of his small war cabinet are pushing him to cut a deal to free hostages, but ministers on the right wing of his broader coalition are threatening to bring down his government if he reaches an agreement that prevents a Rafah operation.

Arab mediators have been trying to bring Israel and Hamas together to agree to a deal despite seemingly contradictory aims from the two sides. Hamas wants a cease-fire to include language about a permanent end to fighting, while Netanyahu has said he won’t give up the freedom to destroy the group militarily.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523837&forum_id=2#47626872)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 10:55 PM
Author: medicated plaza

maybe electing a literal criminal who has a self interest in keeping his coalition together at all costs to stay out of jail was a bad idea jews?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523837&forum_id=2#47626878)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 12:28 AM
Author: Bull Headed Dun Gay Wizard

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523837&forum_id=2#47627034)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 12:10 PM
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Date: May 1st, 2024 11:08 PM
Author: Plum Area

doesn't highlighting every word defeat the purpose of highlighting stuff? unless it's some sort of color coding i guess (the addreall tablet color pallet is probably just a coincidence). weird picture.

Blinken Pushes for Gaza Cease-Fire Deal in Visit to Israel

Biden administration, rocked by campus protests, pursues agreement to stop the fighting

By Rory Jones, Carrie Keller-Lynn and Michael R. Gordon

Updated May 1, 2024 at 3:46 pm ET

Blinken said after a meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that he told Israeli officials a temporary truce would “give us something to build on.” And he put the focus on Hamas, saying that the group should take the deal. “Hamas has to decide,” Blinken said.

Israel has said it is ready to send a delegation to Cairo, where Arab mediators earlier this week presented Hamas with a fresh plan to pause the fighting in exchange for freeing hostages it holds in the enclave. The proposal is seen as the last chance to delay an Israeli offensive on Rafah, which Netanyahu has said is needed to destroy Hamas’s remaining military units and complete the aims of the war.

Netanyahu is better positioned to resist pressure from Washington than he was several weeks ago. In early April, Netanyahu was publicly rebuked by the Biden administration over Israel’s killing of seven aid workers in what it said was a mistake that violated its rules of engagement. U.S. Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer had called publicly for the prime minister to be replaced. And Netanyahu’s poll numbers were suffering.

Now, his poll numbers have stabilized in the wake of Iran’s drone-and-missile attack on Israeli soil and it is the Biden administration that is under pressure, as protests against Israel’s war in the Gaza Strip spread across U.S. college campuses. Biden needs the Israeli leader to deliver a halt in fighting that could ease domestic pressure over the conflict.

‘Keep Strong’: Blinken Tells Relatives of Hostages During Israel Visit

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U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken met with Israeli leaders in a push for a cease-fire deal between Israel and Hamas. Photo: Tomer Appelbaum/AFP/Getty Images

At the same time, Netanyahu remains in a very tight spot. Members of his small war cabinet are pushing him to cut a deal to free hostages, but ministers on the right wing of his broader coalition are threatening to bring down his government if he reaches an agreement that prevents a Rafah operation.

Arab mediators have been trying to bring Israel and Hamas together to agree to a deal despite seemingly contradictory aims from the two sides. Hamas wants a cease-fire to include language about a permanent end to fighting, while Netanyahu has said he won’t give up the freedom to destroy the group militarily.

Hamas has expressed concern that statements by Israeli officials in recent days indicate that they expect to continue military operations, despite proposing a prolonged period of calm for the release of hostages, mediators said.

The White House has increasingly viewed Netanyahu as the main obstacle to its broader goals in the Gaza war. Biden has cautioned Netanyahu about his hard-line coalition. Even so, the U.S. has no choice other than to work with Netanyahu, said Yossi Shain, political scientist at Tel Aviv University and a former Israeli parliamentarian.

“They’ve been navigating this relationship from the beginning with the understanding that they wish he would not be there,” Shain said. “But he’s there.”

Police officers stood guard at the Columbia University campus in New York on Tuesday. Photo: Jeenah Moon for The Wall Street Journal

Secretary of State Antony Blinken, in Tel Aviv, spoke Wednesday to relatives and supporters of Israeli hostages held by Hamas in Gaza. Photo: Oded Balilty/Associated Press

Netanyahu also could require U.S. support to bat off potential war-crimes charges against top Israeli officials, which the International Criminal Court is currently weighing. Israeli President Isaac Herzog raised the issue with Blinken on Wednesday.

The U.S. has said it can’t support an Israeli military operation in Rafah without a plan to manage the roughly one million Palestinian refugees sheltering there and that current Israeli proposals to do so are insufficient.

Still, the U.S. also appears ready to blame Hamas if a cease-fire deal falls apart and Israel moves ahead with an operation. An X post from Biden on Tuesday said that Hamas “is now the only obstacle to an immediate ceasefire and relief for civilians” in Gaza.

Blinken reiterated that message in Tel Aviv on Wednesday as he met with Herzog, before then sitting down with the prime minister.

“The only reason that that wouldn’t be achieved is because of Hamas,” Blinken said. “There is a proposal on the table, and as we’ve said, no delays, no excuses.”

The U.S. is also discussing with Israeli officials how Israel plans to reduce the risk to civilians if its Rafah offensive goes ahead, U.S. officials said.

The latest cease-fire proposal, which Israel helped draft but has yet to agree to, envisages two stages. The first would involve the release of at least 20 to 33 hostages for a number of Palestinian prisoners, during a period of calm that could last up to 40 days, according to a document viewed by The Wall Street Journal.

The length of the first phase of the pause could then be extended at a rate of one day for each hostage released. Israel in return would release 20 Palestinian prisoners for each child, civilian woman, elderly person or wounded hostage. For each female soldier freed, Israel would release 40 Palestinian prisoners, with half of them serving life prison sentences.

A second phase would include at least a six-week cease-fire during which Hamas and Israel would agree on a larger hostage release and an extended pause in fighting that could last up to a year.

On the Hamas side, negotiators say they are waiting for word from the group’s Gaza leader, Yahya Sinwar, who launched the Oct. 7 attack and is believed to be hiding in the southern area of the strip.

A wounded Palestinian man with his injured son at the site of an Israeli strike on a house in Rafah. Photo: Hatem Khaled/Reuters

A child among the rubble of a destroyed house in Rafah. Photo: Rizek Abdeljawad/Zuma Press

The tentative agreement could be unpalatable to far-right politicians that Netanyahu relies upon for his tenuous coalition. Ahead of Blinken’s visit, Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich and National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir, who both head far-right parties, said the government must push into Rafah immediately.

Squeezing Netanyahu from his other political flank is war-cabinet minister Benny Gantz, who indicated earlier this week that if the government didn’t approve an acceptable deal to free hostages, his party would leave Israel’s emergency war coalition.

Roughly half of Israelis support ending the war to secure the release of hostages, compared with roughly a third who oppose, according to a poll this week by Israeli broadcaster Kan. While Netanyahu’s polling has improved since the start of the war, surveys show Netanyahu’s Likud faction would win far fewer seats in new elections than it did in the last round, and more than half of Israelis want him to resign.

That leaves Netanyahu in a political bind.

“His government may fall with a cease-fire-hostage deal,” said Mitchell Barak, a political analyst at Jerusalem-based Keevoon Global Research. “If he doesn’t do the deal, Gantz could bolt, and the country plunges into chaos.”

Palestinian health authorities say that more than 34,000 people—most of them civilians—have been killed so far in the war. Their figures don’t say how many were combatants.

Hamas attacks on southern Israel on Oct. 7 that sparked the conflict killed roughly 1,200 people, mostly civilians, according to Israeli authorities. Hamas and other Palestinian factions also took more than 240 hostages. Some of those were freed late last year, but roughly 129 remain as captives in the strip. Of those remaining hostages, at least 34 are dead, including three Americans, according to Israel.

The U.S. has pushed Israel to allow more aid into Gaza to ease a humanitarian crisis in the strip. On Wednesday, Israeli officials said they had fully reopened a crossing into northern Gaza that had been damaged in the Oct. 7 attacks, a move that would allow more trucks to enter the strip.

Blinken arrived in Israel from Jordan and Saudi Arabia, where he has been trying to rally support for a broader postwar plan that could help move the cease-fire talks forward.

As part of that plan, the U.S. hopes to establish diplomatic relations between Saudi Arabia and Israel, lay the groundwork for an Arab force to stabilize Gaza and define a road map leading to the creation of a Palestinian state.

That goal appears unlikely with Netanyahu in power. His far-right partners and members of his own Likud faction oppose a Palestinian state, and the prime minister himself has repeatedly changed his position on the idea over time.

“The United States and Israel are in better shape than they were,” said Gadi Wolfsfeld, a political scientist at Israel’s Reichman University. “But that could change very quickly if they feel that Netanyahu is dragging his feet on any deal.”

A camp housing displaced Palestinians in Rafah. Photo: Agence France-Presse/Getty Images

Summer Said contributed to this article.

Write to Rory Jones at Rory.Jones@wsj.com and Michael R. Gordon at michael.gordon@wsj.com

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Date: May 2nd, 2024 10:36 AM
Author: hot well-lubricated locale

If you don't like the highlights just ignore them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523837&forum_id=2#47627792)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 11:18 PM
Author: Appetizing tattoo

op's thread title isnt supported by the article. ding, fag.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523837&forum_id=2#47626918)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 11:19 PM
Author: out-of-control shaky indian lodge athletic conference

there will be a cease fire when hamas blood reddens every street in gaza and qatar

and when the hostages are returned

not before then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523837&forum_id=2#47626920)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 12:30 AM
Author: Bull Headed Dun Gay Wizard

This ends with 6 million more dead Jews unless you people cut the shit and immediately and permanently banish your faggot settler faction from acceptable Jewish public discourse. HTH you be less retarded, but no one on XO is really holding out any hope for that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523837&forum_id=2#47627039)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 12:31 AM
Author: Marvelous Frum Boltzmann

based but seems like Israel's gonna have to cave to pressure before then tbh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523837&forum_id=2#47627040)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 12:31 AM
Author: mischievous immigrant

israel is holding a LOT of arab hostages and has been for years, im not sure they can be convinced to give them up



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523837&forum_id=2#47627041)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 12:36 AM
Author: out-of-control shaky indian lodge athletic conference

gee peeface, i feel like you are failing to appreciate the difference between prisoners and hostages

israel has the former, hamas the latter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523837&forum_id=2#47627049)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 12:47 AM
Author: mischievous immigrant

no the guys kidnapping your father in the middle of the night and locking him in a secret prison for years without trial are the good guys! because they're israel!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523837&forum_id=2#47627062)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 12:48 AM
Author: out-of-control shaky indian lodge athletic conference

but my father was a muslim terrorist scumball and deserved exactly what he got. now what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523837&forum_id=2#47627067)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 12:49 AM
Author: mischievous immigrant

i guess eventually his sons hangglide in and give some people what they deserve for 50 years of this oppressive shit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523837&forum_id=2#47627069)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 1:41 AM
Author: Crystalline contagious bawdyhouse

The fucking night raids are evil shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523837&forum_id=2#47627111)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 11:28 AM
Author: out-of-control shaky indian lodge athletic conference

that's fine, but then cry about the retaliation? yeah, no.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523837&forum_id=2#47627990)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 4:20 PM
Author: hot well-lubricated locale

US troops building a port and delivering aid in total secrecy probably won't be defending IDF troops against attacks by "Hamas."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523837&forum_id=2#47628948)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 10:48 AM
Author: Trip brass goal in life

I hope Bibi doesnt cuck. This war is the best thing to happen to US domestic politics in decades.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523837&forum_id=2#47627848)



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Date: May 5th, 2024 2:08 AM
Author: hot well-lubricated locale

He's cucking right now. He's a weak little bitch. He's still fucked and so is "Israel," but it's amusing to see him beg for mercy right on schedule, like I predicted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523837&forum_id=2#47636441)