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the whole 'golden age of television' thing is overblown

yeah these 'prestige' shows are better than primetime networ...
Charismatic flesh friendly grandma public bath
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not at all. the golden age of america generally was 20+ year...
passionate locale
  07/07/24
Twin Peaks was the encore and companion piece to the last se...
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ALF has never been topped IMO.
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talented ceo church
  07/08/24
Its A.L.F., which stands for Alien Life Form.
Well-lubricated Library Deer Antler
  07/08/24
But his real name is Gordon Shumway!
Angry Box Office Boiling Water
  07/08/24
Go back and watch like a Friends episode. It was utter garb...
Adulterous property
  07/08/24
People needed Friends. They had no friends.
Angry Box Office Boiling Water
  07/08/24
“so no one told u life was gonna be this gayyyy”
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  07/08/24
Far more People have no irl friends now imo but I guess so...
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Friends was always recognized as shit by non-normies.
Well-lubricated Library Deer Antler
  07/08/24
ntcr -- Sopranos -- The Wire -- Rome -- Deadwood -- ...
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All literally a generation ago. Also -- Succession was last ...
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Yeah, the golden age mostly ended in probably 2015 and anyon...
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high production, yes. good writing, i guess, in the sense of...
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I think this criticism is varying levels of true -- mostly f...
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literature is secular media.
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  07/09/24
That does not bolster your point very much. Which litera...
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i think what bolsters my point is the evident vapidity of th...
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Good list. I would add Six Feet Under, Better Call Saul, Far...
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Fargo is a GREAT addition, ty
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these are entertaining shows. ive watched a lot of them star...
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50 year old men doing business penis and crying is art, bigo...
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  07/08/24
as much as Film has degraded recently it is still a more pre...
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  07/09/24
tv also suffers from mostly being written / directed by comm...
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And even without the shifting composition, the quality produ...
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Nice to see you again, GOY
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Date: July 7th, 2024 11:48 PM
Author: Charismatic flesh friendly grandma public bath

yeah these 'prestige' shows are better than primetime network dramas or 22 minute sitcoms with laugh tracks; but let's not go nuts.

twin peaks the return is legit art tho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47819205)



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Date: July 7th, 2024 11:51 PM
Author: passionate locale

not at all. the golden age of america generally was 20+ years ago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47819210)



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Date: July 7th, 2024 11:51 PM
Author: flatulent background story brunch

Twin Peaks was the encore and companion piece to the last season of mad men if that even counts. This was also around when the dragon show started dropping in quality. The golden age has been over for almost a decade.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47819211)



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Date: July 8th, 2024 8:08 AM
Author: pearl tanning salon tattoo



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Date: July 9th, 2024 5:27 PM
Author: Yapping Ape State



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Date: July 8th, 2024 1:03 AM
Author: Angry Box Office Boiling Water

ALF has never been topped IMO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47819309)



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Date: July 8th, 2024 1:22 AM
Author: talented ceo church



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Date: July 8th, 2024 8:00 AM
Author: Well-lubricated Library Deer Antler

Its A.L.F., which stands for Alien Life Form.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47819584)



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Date: July 8th, 2024 11:29 AM
Author: Angry Box Office Boiling Water

But his real name is Gordon Shumway!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47820117)



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Date: July 8th, 2024 1:06 AM
Author: Adulterous property

Go back and watch like a Friends episode. It was utter garbage at a time those guys were each making over a million 1998 dollars per episode.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47819313)



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Date: July 8th, 2024 1:31 AM
Author: Angry Box Office Boiling Water

People needed Friends. They had no friends.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47819338)



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Date: July 8th, 2024 1:34 AM
Author: talented ceo church

“so no one told u life was gonna be this gayyyy”

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Date: July 8th, 2024 1:39 AM
Author: Territorial love of her life

Far more People have no irl friends now imo but I guess some of us have more internet friends

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47819347)



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Date: July 8th, 2024 7:24 AM
Author: pearl tanning salon tattoo

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Date: July 8th, 2024 7:58 AM
Author: lilac nibblets antidepressant drug

I hate women

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Date: July 8th, 2024 8:00 AM
Author: Well-lubricated Library Deer Antler

Friends was always recognized as shit by non-normies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47819588)



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Date: July 8th, 2024 7:53 AM
Author: pearl tanning salon tattoo

ntcr

-- Sopranos

-- The Wire

-- Rome

-- Deadwood

-- Oz

-- Band of Brothers

-- Generation Kill

-- Breaking Bad

-- Mad Men

-- Game of Thrones S1 & 2

-- House of Cards S1 & 2

-- True Detective S1

-- Succession

Just more high production + good writing than any other time period since movies in the 70s/80s

edit: could arguably also throw Homeland and Peaky Blinders in there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47819571)



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Date: July 8th, 2024 8:00 AM
Author: Bat shit crazy bateful sex offender

All literally a generation ago. Also -- Succession was last and the shittiest on that list and basically does not belong with the rest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47819586)



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Date: July 8th, 2024 8:08 AM
Author: pearl tanning salon tattoo

Yeah, the golden age mostly ended in probably 2015 and anyone disputing this is probably stupid. Doesn't mean it was overblown while it lasted.

I'd argue Succession belongs but that's entirely tertiary to the larger point; even if we cut it, the rest of the list is a sufficient warrant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47819607)



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Date: July 8th, 2024 11:16 AM
Author: Charismatic flesh friendly grandma public bath

high production, yes. good writing, i guess, in the sense of natural sounding dialogue and logically unfolding and well paced plot. in terms of substance, though, all pretty much just high gloss soap operas, lacking in all but the most surface level or banal “ideas”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47820073)



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Date: July 8th, 2024 4:09 PM
Author: pearl tanning salon tattoo

I think this criticism is varying levels of true -- mostly false -- but inasmuch as it is true of those shows, it's true of virtually all secular media in history.

Complaining that TV doesn't grapple with big ideas is a bit like asking why the radio doesn't offer STEM dissertations to listen to -- the medium is ill-suited to the task, if the shows I listed above are inadequate in your estimation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47821418)



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Date: July 9th, 2024 5:20 PM
Author: Charismatic flesh friendly grandma public bath

literature is secular media.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47825196)



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Date: July 9th, 2024 5:36 PM
Author: pearl tanning salon tattoo

That does not bolster your point very much.

Which literature do you think has "big ideas" that the shows I listed don't? (There are a few pretty good answers to this, but I don't think Dostoyevsky or Cormac McCarthy are sufficient to dismiss these.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47825266)



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Date: July 10th, 2024 12:24 PM
Author: Charismatic flesh friendly grandma public bath

i think what bolsters my point is the evident vapidity of the shows you listed. it's a lower bar that a good chunk of literary fiction easily clears

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47827581)



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Date: July 9th, 2024 5:19 PM
Author: erotic hairraiser heaven trust fund

Good list. I would add Six Feet Under, Better Call Saul, Fargo S1 & S2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47825190)



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Date: July 9th, 2024 5:39 PM
Author: pearl tanning salon tattoo

Fargo is a GREAT addition, ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47825280)



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Date: July 9th, 2024 5:40 PM
Author: Charismatic flesh friendly grandma public bath

these are entertaining shows. ive watched a lot of them start to finish. but lol at them being anything other than telenovas with top grade craftsmanship. character psychology is invariably shallow and low dimensional, the mechanisms of larger social milieu are probed tepidly and narrowly, if at all. these are things to unwind with on a sunday night; entertaining but in no way enriching.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47825290)



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Date: July 8th, 2024 8:10 AM
Author: Bistre School Cafeteria

50 year old men doing business penis and crying is art, bigot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47819613)



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Date: July 9th, 2024 5:23 PM
Author: chrome stage

as much as Film has degraded recently it is still a more prestigious format and the best Films >>>>> best TV. I remember an interview with the Coen Bros wherein they were asked why they don't do TV and their response was "it's just not how we think about stories". TV tends to get labored and soap opera-ish, unless it's a true outsider like Lynch who basically shot The Return as a long Film.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47825205)



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Date: July 9th, 2024 5:35 PM
Author: Charismatic flesh friendly grandma public bath

tv also suffers from mostly being written / directed by committee, with the composition shifting from season to season

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47825262)



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Date: July 9th, 2024 5:38 PM
Author: pearl tanning salon tattoo

And even without the shifting composition, the quality produced by committees is typically worse than that of a single gifted writer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47825279)



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Date: July 10th, 2024 9:36 AM
Author: chrome stage



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Date: July 9th, 2024 5:39 PM
Author: Cerebral Chapel

The golden age of niggerslop for stupid gay faggots

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Date: July 9th, 2024 5:42 PM
Author: Charismatic flesh friendly grandma public bath

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Date: July 9th, 2024 5:44 PM
Author: pearl tanning salon tattoo

Nice to see you again, GOY

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