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JULIA: Breakdown why you believe Box is not smarter than you
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Date: September 30th, 2014 10:50 AM Author: Boyish den sandwich Not gonna hate jw
You know about her SAT scores and that she graduated STEM from one of the country's top schools. I have seen you mention that you do not think she will be as successful as you career wise but that doesn't mean that you're smarter than her. What are you going by exactly? It seems like you don't have enough evidence to conclude that she is not a great deal smarter than you |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:04 AM Author: Nighttime prole I never said Box would not be as successful as me career-wise. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427228) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:05 AM Author: Boyish den sandwich Ok, well answer the rest (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427236) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:06 AM Author: Nighttime prole Not gonna get into that. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427247) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:09 AM Author: Boyish den sandwich Why not? I just don't think there is enough evidence for your reasoning (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427269) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:10 AM Author: Nighttime prole OK (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427279) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:12 AM Author: copper haunting cuckoldry elastic band Wise of you not to answer. you know you don't have a fucking leg to stand on (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427291) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:14 AM Author: Nighttime prole OK. You done yet? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427313) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:17 AM Author: copper haunting cuckoldry elastic band wht? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427329) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 12:56 PM Author: Stimulating gold nowag more like she wont if she angers a certain hedgie owner with a detailed answer. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427970) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:48 AM Author: shaky ungodly site depressive Box will not be ass successful as JULIA. Box is a code monkey and julia makes 200K. The odds of box making that are nearly zero. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427535) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 12:02 PM Author: Nighttime prole If I stick with my job (and the promotion I was just offered), I'll be on track to make close to 300k in 2015. That's damn close to the absolute ceiling for my line of work, though.
Box can make multiples of that with stock options at some start-up. I couldn't do that in my wildest dreams. |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 12:46 PM Author: shaky ungodly site depressive The odds that her start up hits big are very low. There's almost no chance she hits 200K ever. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427891) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 12:47 PM Author: Pink Haunted Graveyard (guy who understands tech industry) (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427899) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 12:50 PM Author: shaky ungodly site depressive (dumbass) (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427928) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 12:52 PM Author: Pink Haunted Graveyard I was agreeing with you. Julia's retarded for her weird love of tech. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427942) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:03 PM Author: shaky ungodly site depressive Oh, ty (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26428026) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 12:52 PM Author: crawly volcanic crater associate 200k is easily within range for a smart coder. Think architect. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427944) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 12:52 PM Author: Pink Haunted Graveyard ...like architect for buildings? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427948) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:00 PM Author: crawly volcanic crater associate http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/39284/whats-the-difference-between-a-software-architect-a-software-engineer-and-a-so
U don't even need to get to that level. I have a small tech recruiting thing and we saw tons of reqs for it/engineers over $100/hr. Placed plenty with no bachelor's and all kinds of work gaps. |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:02 PM Author: Pink Haunted Graveyard Yes, but we're talking CAREERS. Everyone is flooding to tech now from US and overseas. I think tbtp could easily get fucked, esp. with her HR complaints, etc. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26428012) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:03 PM Author: Nighttime prole She's still very young and could switch careers/go back to school easily.
She could also just freelance as a coder. |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:13 PM Author: crawly volcanic crater associate the industry is growing even faster than ppl are flooding to it. Especially at the high level where very few ppl can perform. Employers in tech don't care as much about past work problems so it's not like she'll end up with a black mark on her resume. So many freaks around. most techies are not super ambitious like lawyers. A lot drift from job to job or just stop working for a few months. Unless she totally quits, she should get to 100/hr. |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:14 PM Author: Nighttime prole I agree with this entirely -and this is assuming she stays in her current field or doesn't improve her BPD symptoms. She could aspire to much better. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26428105) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 5:09 PM Author: lake hairraiser rigor windowlicker (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26429976) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:19 PM Author: Aphrodisiac hot state lettuce "Everyone is flooding to tech now from US and overseas." just fyi good architects are really fucking few and far between - it's a very difficult job and requires a lot of raw intellectual horsepower to do right (also good soft skills) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 12:54 PM Author: Stimulating gold nowag has inception been invented yet? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427960) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:04 PM Author: shaky ungodly site depressive What % of code monkeys make 200K? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26428031) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:05 PM Author: Nighttime prole Ahem. 300k.
It's irrelevant because we don't know Box's career path. She's too young. She may be wildly successful in any number of ways unrelated to coding. At 23, I was seriously considering going to law school. |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:06 PM Author: Pink Haunted Graveyard LJL at Obama's America and assuming that young mentally ill people will be wildly successful (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26428057) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:07 PM Author: Nighttime prole I was a young, very mentally ill person once. So was half this board, and many of them have done well for themselves.
Boxxie should be no exception. She is not so mentally ill that she can't find a path to success. By making $70k at 23, she is already PWNING life. |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:25 PM Author: shaky ungodly site depressive Getting to 70 at 23 is orders of magnitude easier than getting to 200 (inflation adjusted) ever (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26428201) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:40 PM Author: Pink Haunted Graveyard (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26428328) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:44 PM Author: Nighttime prole Ok, that's fair. I still see two life outcomes for her:
1)Flits about from job to job until she lands some sort of sweet-ass start-up gig (or similar) with crazy compensation/options.
2)FInds a reasonably wealthy guy to marry, pops out babies, poasts until her 30s, and codes a bit from home/works on side projects.
There will be nothing in between. She will not be an in-house programmer making $120k, and she will not marry some doofus who makes $65k while being a stay-at-home mom. |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 4:42 PM Author: Vivacious maniacal half-breed "At 23, I was seriously considering going to law school."
and then you topped out at 158 on the LSAT. fortunately you got into several med schools, which is far more impressive anyway. |
Date: September 30th, 2014 10:54 AM Author: Pink Haunted Graveyard TBF, Julia's probably right that Box will be a failure professionally. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427159) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 10:58 AM Author: my dog can log into xo more often than I can (and he's neutered) That depends on your expectations. Box will never been a CEO ... but neither will Julia. Box will probably marry a minority, have children, and work some programing/IT job for decades. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427183) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:01 AM Author: Pink Haunted Graveyard Eh.
I think Box is too unstable to function in the workplace. Will probably have sex with coworkers, etc. Already has HR complaints, etc. |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:02 AM Author: my dog can log into xo more often than I can (and he's neutered) That can't continue indefinitely. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427216) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:05 AM Author: Pink Haunted Graveyard I don't think you understand BPD. She is DONE HERE 4 LYFE (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427234) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:05 AM Author: titillating property yea bpd is nothing if not indefinite (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427237) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:07 AM Author: Nighttime prole People can be quite functional even with BPD and go on to have very good careers. Don't underestimate Box. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427252) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:07 AM Author: Pink Haunted Graveyard It's pretty unlikely and she's shown little ability to reform herself.
Source: dated 2 chicks with BPD. |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:09 AM Author: titillating property isn't life dysfunction a diagnostic criterion for bpd? i.e., if she could just swallow it and figure it out and function okay, it wouldn't be bpd (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427266) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:10 AM Author: Nighttime prole Yeah, but the dysfunction needn't be career-related necessarily. Also, BPD can be controlled with therapy & meds.
I've known lots of people with BPD who have done well. |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:11 AM Author: Pink Haunted Graveyard I think we can disregard your comments on mental illness. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427283) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:13 AM Author: Nighttime prole Why? I have plenty of experience with it and with people who also have it.
Box is not doomed professionally. Programming is a great choice of career for her, because it can be unstructured when she has BPD exacerbations, and she can return to it after periods of absence.
Plus, if she really tames the BPD, she can easily go into start-up land and bank. Tech doesn't hold stuff against you the way other industries do.
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:15 AM Author: Pink Haunted Graveyard Because every time you talk about mental illness specifically, you've spouted wikipedia level retardation.
I disagree with your statements about the tech industry and about those trends being true in the future.
I also disagree that leaving a career for 5 years because you're mentally ill is 'totes mcgotes fine' |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:17 AM Author: Nighttime prole That's fine. We're in complete disagreement. Leaving for 5 years isn't 100% fine, but who says she'd do that? Even so, programming is a skill-based profession; she can learn new languages and re-position herself, even if her skills and marketability erode a bit. |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:19 AM Author: Pink Haunted Graveyard You are retarded and I cannot engage you further. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427354) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:20 AM Author: Nighttime prole Thank God. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427358) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:10 AM Author: Pink Haunted Graveyard Unclear, I prefer not to reexamine those memories and read about BPD people cause it makes me feel really shitty and stupid for dealing with that shit.
Hilariously enough, one of the girls told me the other one was BPD while I was dating her. |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:11 AM Author: titillating property i've dated or been involved with at least four girls with bpd, bipolar, or some kind of pathological liar thing brother. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427287) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:12 AM Author: Pink Haunted Graveyard Sorry to hear that, brudda.
I wasted 2 years of my life on one, but at least it led me to my life partner. |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:12 AM Author: titillating property grats on life partner bro-bro-bro-ur-broat. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427298) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:13 AM Author: Pink Haunted Graveyard Nah, it's fucked because I'll bet she'll leave me in the next year. But thanks, I guess. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427306) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:12 AM Author: crawly volcanic crater associate Describe this BPD thing. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427297) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:15 AM Author: titillating property http://thezoepost.wordpress.com/ or if that's tl;dr, imagine a girl who clings to you and mirrors your personality and says like she can't live without you or whatever and is simultaneously lying to you about a dozen other things and occasionally acts as though possessed by some kind of demon, threatening to harm herself or you or others if she doesn't get attention or get her way. please note this post is not necessarily about box in particular. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427318) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:26 AM Author: crawly volcanic crater associate Deceitfulness, emotional blackmail. Legit tactics. Mainly used by women. How is it a disorder? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427389) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 12:49 PM Author: Charismatic slap-happy national feces *sponsored poast* (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427919) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:15 AM Author: Pink Haunted Graveyard Like I said, I don't like to talk about it so here's a wikipedia link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borderline_personality_disorder#Signs_and_symptoms |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:28 AM Author: Nighttime prole Jesus Christ. You accuse me of "Wikipedia-level retardation" regarding mental illness, only to later IN THE SAME THREAD post a link to WIKIPEDIA to describe a mental illness.
Are you a hypocrite or just a mentally ill person suffering from cognitive dissonance? |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 12:05 PM Author: Pink Haunted Graveyard I said that I don't like to discuss BPD and I was providing it as a summary as opposed to you providing it as evidence for an argument that was blatantly false and stupid. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427622) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 12:07 PM Author: Nighttime prole Oh, my arguments are "blatantly false and stupid" but when you use it as a "summary" for yours, it's ok?
Sounds consistent. |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 12:08 PM Author: Pink Haunted Graveyard You ignored evidence & repeated the same irrelevant facts from Wikipedia over and over again as I laid out arguments why multiple doctors disagreed with you.
Yes, this is different from someone asking "What is X?"
Not something I would understand someone with a measly 134 IQ PISSWORMBRAIN to comprehend, but yes there is a difference. You can take my word for it. |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 12:11 PM Author: Nighttime prole No, there is no difference. I can post any number of sources showing that your symptoms were consistent with psychosis. I'm sorry this hurts. Now, it may be that your Dr did not diagnose you with psychosis -and I do not dispute that, because I am not a Dr, let alone yours - but the suggestion that your symptoms are not often described by reputable sources as evidence of psychosis is not "stupid" or "blatantly false".
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Date: September 30th, 2014 12:15 PM Author: Pink Haunted Graveyard Whatever, brehletta.
You're still wrong. |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 4:53 PM Author: Vivacious maniacal half-breed "You ignored evidence & repeated the same irrelevant facts from Wikipedia over and over again as I laid out arguments why multiple doctors disagreed with you."
welcome to every single argument with julia, ever. the discussions CULMINATES when an enraged julia bookends every poast with calling her foil an idiot or "ignorant." |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 4:51 PM Author: Vivacious maniacal half-breed "Are you a hypocrite or just a mentally ill person suffering from cognitive dissonance?"
after all these years, how have you not learned to stop using words/concepts you don't understand? |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:07 AM Author: razzmatazz cream point pretty sure she just made that up so she could poast pics of herself (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427257) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:08 AM Author: Pink Haunted Graveyard which would prove that she's even more out there and absurd.
also, i think straighttt confirmed her retarded dress habits. |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:03 AM Author: Gay Kitchen the box at least has some non-zero chance to attain enlightenment or self-actualization (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427226) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:06 AM Author: Pink Haunted Graveyard And a much higher chance to fall into deep depression while Julia will go on being sub 110 IQ, getting fucked in the ass, and dumbly enjoying life.
The only problem is that Julia is probably 2 IQ points too smart. If she were a little bit dumber, she wouldn't have all of the self-hatred that comes with the realization that she's a fucking idiot who people only tolerate for her meatsleeve. |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:08 AM Author: titillating property hence the salieri comparison (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427260) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:09 AM Author: Pink Haunted Graveyard but with all the added issues of being a female so you never know if people are actually interested in you or just your clammy cocksheath (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427268) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:10 AM Author: titillating property the ONE | WEIRD | TRICK here is to actually be interesting (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427275) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:11 AM Author: Pink Haunted Graveyard but most women aren't because they've had no practice since they never needed to be interesting.
this is why i love my current gf so much, she's way more interesting than me. |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:13 AM Author: titillating property sounds credited (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427302) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:11 AM Author: Nighttime prole Link to me enjoying life?
I'm chronically depressed and nihilistic. |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:13 AM Author: Pink Haunted Graveyard A lot of the time you troll on here about how your life should be wonderful, such great success, etc.
"The only problem is that Julia is probably 2 IQ points too smart. If she were a little bit dumber, she wouldn't have all of the self-hatred that comes with the realization that she's a fucking idiot who people only tolerate for her meatsleeve." |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:14 AM Author: Nighttime prole My life is objectively good. I still hate it, though. It's called depression and nihilism. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427308) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:19 AM Author: Pink Haunted Graveyard You should really just stop parroting words on the internet that you don't understand and go find things to do IRL that will make you happy. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427352) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:21 AM Author: Nighttime prole Oh, look, another idiot telling someone with chronic depression to just "go find things IRL that will make you happy" simultaneously claiming he understands the definition of depression. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427364) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:24 AM Author: Pink Haunted Graveyard Even if you have chronic depression, your life will markedly improve if you put things that are beneficial into it instead of the suckhole that is XO.
This is literally what any doctor will tell you. |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:26 AM Author: Nighttime prole I put lots of things that are beneficial into it, and my life, objectively speaking, is fine. My depression and anxiety are not.
I work out, read a lot, eat well, sleep 7+ hrs/night, have a loving SO, friends, travel often, do lots of enjoyable activities...none of it matters because I AM DEPRESSED, and still judge it worthwhile to waste time on here.
That is what clinical depression is about. |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 4:56 PM Author: Vivacious maniacal half-breed "nihilistic"
you don't understand what this actually means and everything about your activity on XO contradicts the assertion that you're at all nihilistic. |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:13 AM Author: copper haunting cuckoldry elastic band (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427299) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:09 AM Author: histrionic gaped school cafeteria box is just younger; she'll get a little more focused as she get whitewomanpwned. when julia was young she was a desperate stripper attending night school (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427267) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:18 AM Author: Crimson Tantric Office That's what I was thinking as well. Box seems incredibly smart, but very immature.
And I don't know if I buy the BPD thing with her. She seems to act impulsively, but I'm not ready to buy the mental illness thing. It seems more of an excuse for her at this point than it does something that keeps her from succeeding. |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:18 AM Author: Nighttime prole Box will do just fine. I'll bet her BPD improves, she gets hooked up somewhere with stock options, and makes out like a bandit. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427343) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:31 AM Author: Cerise fear-inspiring space digit ratio I want to make out like a bandit (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427421) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:32 AM Author: Nighttime prole Is this Box? If so, go for it. Even if you're not Box, go for it. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427431) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:37 AM Author: submissive locus headpube ITT: julia trying to pretend like she's on Box's side "Box will do fine" or "She'll be very successful" without addressing the underlying argument regarding their relative intelligence. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427475) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:45 AM Author: Nighttime prole I am on the Box's side. I have no beef with her and wish her all the best, which is why I will not entertain your desires for a cat fight. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427519) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 12:35 PM Author: beta house gay wizard lol. here's how you avoid a "cat fight" over whether or not someone who is objectively smarter than you is smarter than you: either graciously admit that she is smarter than you, or stay the fuck out of the thread. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427821) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 12:37 PM Author: Boyish den sandwich 180 (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427833) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 12:37 PM Author: titillating property 180 (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427839) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 12:44 PM Author: copper haunting cuckoldry elastic band Cr (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427873) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 12:47 PM Author: submissive locus headpube pwned (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427902) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 12:48 PM Author: copper haunting cuckoldry elastic band (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427906) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 12:51 PM Author: Supple Pit Death Wish Didn't she admit that the box was smarter? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427938) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 12:53 PM Author: submissive locus headpube nope, all she's said is that box isn't "much" smarter than her, if in fact box is smarter at all (which she's never conceded to be the case). all she's conceded is that box isn't less intelligent than her (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427952) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 12:53 PM Author: copper haunting cuckoldry elastic band Nope (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427955) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 12:58 PM Author: Nighttime prole Oh, look! A MAF pumo saying I shouldn't respond to threads directly addressing me! (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427990) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 12:59 PM Author: Pink Haunted Graveyard WHERE ARE THE PHOTOS OF YOUR LUNCH? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427998) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:00 PM Author: Nighttime prole ? Why would I take pictures of my lunch? |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:03 PM Author: submissive locus headpube (140 IQ poaster) (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26428022) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:04 PM Author: Nighttime prole (140 IQ poaster) (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26428030) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:05 PM Author: submissive locus headpube dynamite comeback, Monty (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26428037) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:05 PM Author: Pink Haunted Graveyard (140 IQ poaster who didn't take photos of her lunch with timestamps) (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26428042) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:07 PM Author: copper haunting cuckoldry elastic band You shouldn't if you want to avoid a cat fight, cunt. Now you wont provide a detailed answer because you know you'll be torn apart. Nothing about you suggests that you are above average intelligence.
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:20 PM Author: Nighttime prole Thanks for calling me a cunt. I'll have to provide a link of this to another idiotic pumo who claimed I don't get called a "cunt" here regularly. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26428163) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:22 PM Author: titillating property that's just once (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26428180) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:23 PM Author: Nighttime prole No, there have been others in the past day or two. Gotta link to them all now, I guess. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26428184) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 2:26 PM Author: submissive locus headpube don't you call pumos mean names all the time though? why are you whining about name calling? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26428733) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 2:28 PM Author: Nighttime prole I don't insult anyone who doesn't insult me first; defending yourself or hitting back is not unecessary animosity. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26428748) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 5:04 PM Author: Vivacious maniacal half-breed anyone who contradicts you in an argument is immediately labeled ignorant or an idiot. when you rage out, you immediately devolve to ad hom ranting to alleviate your anger. if you're called out on this, you insist that the other person is being "condescending" or some other made up slight, simply because they don't agree with you. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26429943) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 5:02 PM Author: Vivacious maniacal half-breed "Gotta link to them all now, I guess."
except you won't, because it didn't happen. i get that your mental illness compels you to constantly threaten to provide 'proof' of all the utter bullshit you constantly produce, but is there ever a point where you gain some momentary self-awareness and realize how full of it you are? |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:23 PM Author: Charismatic slap-happy national feces that's what regularly means. (julia) (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26428185) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 3:08 PM Author: Angry nibblets (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26429104) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 3:10 PM Author: Angry nibblets being called a cunt when you're being a cunt is fair. take any normal, socially adjusted woman -- if you could explain to her what xo is, she would definitely think it's cunty to have even bothered to engage with this thread as you have (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26429122) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:31 PM Author: beta house gay wizard I was not seriously suggesting that you not respond to this thread, we all know that simply ignoring a thread that unfavorably compares you to a younger, less accomplished woman on the basis of intelligence would be impossible for you. I'm saying that your attempt to high road the conversation while refusing to admit an objective fact is both transparent and pathetic. Box has many problems, but she is smarter than you. She's also smarter than me and many others in this thread. We already think you're a doofus, admitting that would only improve your precious xo rep. |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:33 PM Author: Nighttime prole You're certainly right that she's smarter than you and most XO men. She PWNS you idiots left and right and then you end up on this bort crying over her and fighting among yourselves over her favor.
And I will insist, if it's intelligence we're talking about, Box doesn't beat me by more than 1 SD higher in IQ. |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:34 PM Author: beta house gay wizard I know you are but what am I. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26428277) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:35 PM Author: Nighttime prole Link to Box and my professionally-administered IQ scores? Oh, you don't have them? Oh, then shut the fuck up. |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:37 PM Author: beta house gay wizard Please state your IQ before I engage you further. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26428307) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:38 PM Author: Nighttime prole 134 I do not believe Box's full scale IQ on a professionally-administered WAIS is above a 149 (though she once said her score was 128 or 129). My best guess is about 140-145. |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:41 PM Author: Charismatic slap-happy national feces say it again. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26428334) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:46 PM Author: beta house gay wizard I was kidding; anyone who posts in Julia threads unavoidably learns your IQ score. But I suppose you have admitted, in your way, that box may be smarter than you. Well done, I commend you, we've had our 50+ post thread, let's do it again tomorrow. |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:46 PM Author: Nighttime prole I said this in an earlier thread repeatedly. Not sure why this thread was needed, other than XO just likes to argue with me. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26428377) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 2:32 PM Author: submissive locus headpube (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26428774) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:33 PM Author: copper haunting cuckoldry elastic band Cotdamn (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26428268) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 4:59 PM Author: Vivacious maniacal half-breed (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26429905) |
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Date: October 27th, 2016 5:50 PM Author: ruby buck-toothed center (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#31739877) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 12:50 PM Author: Charismatic slap-happy national feces catfight? you mean shadowboxing? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427926) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 4:58 PM Author: Vivacious maniacal half-breed it's funny when the bitter old XO hags refer to box as "boxie" to try to project some kind of big sister style affection for her. in reality, she's mortally threatened by box's intellect and the fact that she easily takes the spotlight on XO whenever she's posting. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26429898) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 12:54 PM Author: submissive locus headpube I'd like to submit this thread as evidence
Is it true a Playboy Playmate posted here?
There's no way box would have made such a retarded error |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 12:57 PM Author: Pink Haunted Graveyard Ouch. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26427981) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:03 PM Author: Angry nibblets (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26428017) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:03 PM Author: Charismatic slap-happy national feces someone find the link to the airline miles on a date thread (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26428025) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:05 PM Author: submissive locus headpube Guy last night used air miles to pay for dinner date (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26428043) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 3:33 PM Author: Nofapping piazza queen of the night jfc lol (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26429322) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 5:06 PM Author: Vivacious maniacal half-breed Date: July 6th, 2010 5:44 PM Author: Julia and Spice and Everything Nice
Also, you fail to miss how I constructed the formula and WHY it's the relevant one. The $250 x 100 = $25,000 ONLY DEMONSTRATES THAT YES, $250 = 25,000 miles. This is because 25,000/100 reduces to 250/1 or a 250:1 ratio, genius.
PWNED PWNED PENED PWNED PWNED
(Guy last night used air miles to pay for dinner date) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:08 PM Author: titillating property i've never actually read through that thread (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26428076) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 2:41 PM Author: judgmental ivory background story skinny woman ho lee fuk (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26428865) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 3:27 PM Author: Nofapping piazza queen of the night jfc lol (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26429276) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:09 PM Author: submissive locus headpube Reminder: this thread began with Julia saying she's "not gonna get into that
JULIA: Breakdown why you believe Box is not smarter than you
200 subthread posts later... |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:12 PM Author: Nighttime prole And I haven't gotten into it, so I win. I did not answer the OP's loaded question (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26428092) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:15 PM Author: Stimulating gold nowag loaded? alluding to the presumption that you do, in fact, believe you are smarter than box? if that's the case, all you have to say is "she's smarter than I am." But you seem to be unwilling to do that, so a reasonable inference is that the presumption is correct in which case it's not really a loaded question or if it is the fact that it is loaded is not a valid excuse for refusing to answer. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26428109) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:17 PM Author: Nighttime prole I said she's probably a little smarter in an earlier thread, where I also said I stand by my assertion that she's not much smarter. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26428132) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:19 PM Author: Stimulating gold nowag with this post, i declare this thread over. wanna chat? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26428152) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 2:31 PM Author: submissive locus headpube except you're a ditzy stripper with a poor vocab who attended a diploma mill and whose job is to poast on twitter all day, while box pwned her SATs and graduated w/ a STEM degree from one of the nation's top colleges and works as a programmer. you really believe someone like that is merely "probably a little smarter" than you? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26428765) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 2:36 PM Author: Stimulating gold nowag (julia running box false flag flame) (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26428812) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 2:38 PM Author: Nighttime prole I don't post on Twitter all day. I don't even have log-in credentials for Twitter, Facebook, or any of our corporate or news social accounts. You're just ignorant. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26428829) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 2:40 PM Author: judgmental ivory background story skinny woman "YOU'RE A DUMB STRIPPER WHO POSTS ON TWITTER ALL DAY"
"THAT'S NOT TRUE. I CAN'T EVEN LOG INTO TWITTER! SO HA!"
lolz |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 2:42 PM Author: judgmental ivory background story skinny woman "any of our corporate or news social accounts"
i thought you worked for a local public access cable channel |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 2:48 PM Author: Nighttime prole Rofl. TY. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26428925) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 2:50 PM Author: judgmental ivory background story skinny woman do your coworkers know you're an ex stripper? have they pulled up your nudes online? I always wonder about women who do porn/strip/whore who later try to enter the corporate world and expect to be taken seriously. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26428942) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 3:10 PM Author: Nighttime prole Are you stupid enough to believe stripping in youth has any impact on one's ability to execute a corporate job successfully?
One has no bearing on the other, just like your drunken college bullshit has no bearing on our ability to be a lawyer.
I would say I'm taken pretty seriously, though, since I'm a VP, and you're some angry asshole. |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 3:17 PM Author: judgmental ivory background story skinny woman daym why are you so rude? you don't think that was a fair question? i was genuinely curious (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26429190) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 3:20 PM Author: Nighttime prole Listen, you've been insulting me in this entire sub thread, so get off it. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26429222) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 3:53 PM Author: judgmental ivory background story skinny woman I didn't insult you. I thought it was funny though how that pumo called you a whole bunch of shit and all you disputed was that you were a twitter user. Can you actually link to me insulting you anywhere? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26429513) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 5:11 PM Author: Vivacious maniacal half-breed "Are you stupid enough to believe stripping in youth has any impact on one's ability to execute a corporate job successfully? "
lol at how julia reflexively amps up the hilariously pretentious phrasing whenever her titty bar career is discussed. |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 3:22 PM Author: Angry nibblets even though you boast and poast about your IQ so much that it became a meme, bare your tits for the world and xo to see, attention whore all day every day, you NEVER actually say your MCAT, SAT, LSAT, GMAT scores. you've taken so many standardized tests that could substantiate your top 1-2% IQ, but THIS is the one thing you won't share with xo. hmm. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26429246) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 3:41 PM Author: Nighttime prole What bullshit are you claiming now? Are you now claiming standardized scores ARE perfect proxies for IQ? Are you going to now conveniently deny the effect of prep?
Oh, but pathetic little pumo who claims I "boast" (I do not - I merely respond to accusations that I'm lying), I HAVE posted about my standardized scores repeatedly. |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 4:26 PM Author: Angry nibblets LOL at this bullshit, did you actually say what your scores were? no, you didn't. this is the duplicitous bullshit you pull that makes everyone hate you (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26429728) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 4:26 PM Author: Nighttime prole I have on multiple occasions. for example:
Julia: 134 IQ, 1000 SAT, 25 MCAT, 570 GMAT, 150 LSAT
So stop with your "duplicitous" bullshit. You have nothing to stand on and just got pwned again. |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 4:32 PM Author: Angry nibblets i will admit you pwnd me there, but no MCAT, no GMAT? hard to imagine why a latina with a 1400 couldn't cop a scholly at a good school instead of going to UT houston. |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 4:34 PM Author: Nighttime prole I've talked about the GMAT at length in the past. You're full of shit and I'm not entertaining you anymore.
For the record, I also scored a 31 on the ACT |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 4:38 PM Author: submissive locus headpube was that before or after you grinded on 50-yo penises for rent money? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26429784) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 4:39 PM Author: Angry nibblets okay well i haven't seen that. instead of typing all that bullshit, you can't just say your MCAT and GMAT score here? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26429791) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 4:43 PM Author: Angry nibblets also your lsat seems dubious, you got a bunch wrong in that lsat q's thread (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26429822) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 4:46 PM Author: titillating property an absolute ton. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26429839) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 5:04 PM Author: Nighttime prole Nobody ever told me how many I answered right vs wrong. Do you know how many I got right? Could you please tell me?
Bullshit claims like this, though, is why I was insisting on ONLY taking a timed, official ENTIRE test on tinychat. Anything that is not an actual normed, timed test is subject to wild XO claims. Also, realize I haven't answered an LSAT question in 12 years. I will not perform as well as I did back then, and that should be obvious.
But how many Qs did I get right? |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 5:07 PM Author: titillating property not very many. the right answer was given to you by respondents in most cases. i think you got less than half. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26429962) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 5:11 PM Author: Nighttime prole Please tell me which ones I got wrong vs which I got right. Please then tell me how many were right vs wrong. I want concrete numbers. I answered something like 20 questions in that thread.
Only ONCE did someone else answer before me, so that is false. |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 5:12 PM Author: titillating property no i meant people who responded after you. i don't have a link to the thread, can you provide it? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26430010) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 5:19 PM Author: Plum 180 Hospital the fact that you don't have any idea how many you got right or wrong says a lot. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26430076) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 5:23 PM Author: Nighttime prole I think I probably got 3/4 or so of them right, but nobody ever confirmed for me. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26430120) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 5:08 PM Author: Angry nibblets lsat q's aren't really something you grow out of (for the most part). you should probably get better with them as you age, though i'm sure you'll trot out some link about declining IQ to refute this. most people i knew who went to lawl school were k-jds, and i find it hard to imagine they wouldn't perform better cold now (than cold back then).
also, note how you can't just say your MCAT or GMAT score. hmm. or why your 1400 + AA didn't land you a scholly somewhere other than UT-Houston. hmm.
also why would i have on hand how many you got right? just check the thread and read the consensus or ask the OP to poast verified answers. i am not him. |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 5:22 PM Author: Nighttime prole I dropped out of HS two or three times due to serious depression and graduated with like a 2.4 GPA. I got into some decent schools, none of which I could really afford (and I wasn't taking out debt then). I'vr talked about all of this at length and don't want to re-hash the same shit over and over again for every new pumo. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26430111) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 1:16 PM Author: copper haunting cuckoldry elastic band OPs question seems pretty straightforward (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26428122) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 5:09 PM Author: Vivacious maniacal half-breed Date: July 6th, 2010 5:44 PM
Author: Julia and Spice and Everything Nice
Also, you fail to miss how I constructed the formula and WHY it's the relevant one. The $250 x 100 = $25,000 ONLY DEMONSTRATES THAT YES, $250 = 25,000 miles. This is because 25,000/100 reduces to 250/1 or a 250:1 ratio, genius.
PWNED PWNED PENED PWNED PWNED
(Guy last night used air miles to pay for dinner date)
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Date: September 30th, 2014 3:18 PM Author: Angry nibblets re: julia evading the question by talking up her potential professional success
do you not realize how unambitious she is? she doesn't want your shrew life, she picked literally the first job that contacted her and likes that it's easygoing and not that much work. she doesn't sit here making narcissistic threads day after day about her career trajectory. she doesn't care to strive for a better company, more salary, etc (even though she could easily land it). |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 3:21 PM Author: Nighttime prole I did the same fucking thing, idiot. I didn't take the more striversish jobs offered to me because I didn't want the bullshit. I wanted something I could do easily, be crazy in, and make decent money. I chose well, and for that matter, so has Box. Her career choice allows her to do whatever the fuck she wants with few repercussions, and she will easily be quite successful. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26429241) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 3:23 PM Author: Angry nibblets (girl who changes jobs every 6 months) (girl who regrets not taking up her thunderbird's friends job offer even though it would have meant the end of her relationship with her fiance) (girl who poasts about wanting to "chill" and retire to colombia but actually hates alcohol, nature, fun, and took a promotion that would mean more responsibility) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 4:43 PM Author: Nighttime prole I don't change jobs every six months.
I didn't take the tbird's job offer, am disappointed I fucked myself out of a great deal, but realize I would've suffered for it in other ways.
You and I have very different notions of "fun" and "chill". My "chilling" would still involve working 20-40 hours a week. I could not do nothing. |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 4:45 PM Author: Angry nibblets you don't understand. the box would never regret not taking a job offer for a relationship, this is where you two diverse. she wouldn't even entertain the thought. stop pretending she's anything like you, she's not. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26429834) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 5:06 PM Author: Nighttime prole I'm not pretending she's anything like me, so stop with the needless attacks. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26429952) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 5:13 PM Author: Angry nibblets you are analyzing her actions and her trajectory fundamentally wrong is all i'm saying. you don't seem to realize what she values and if you applied your standard of desirable attributes in the other thread to her, you'd find her lazy. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26430014) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 5:23 PM Author: Nighttime prole oh, enough. don't you people get tired of the fucking negativity? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26430125) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 5:08 PM Author: Vivacious maniacal half-breed Date: December 29th, 2004 7:29 PM Author: OopsieDaisy
I'm a guy, but for what it's worth, I'd like to see her pic, if she's the supposed Playmate.
(Is it true a Playboy Playmate posted here?) |
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Date: September 30th, 2014 11:14 PM Author: Magical Bull Headed Idea He Suggested Spot LOL (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#26432978) |
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Date: October 27th, 2016 5:53 PM Author: thriller thirsty party of the first part hall "Not gonna get into that"
*193 poast thread, half of which are Julia's, ensues* |
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Date: December 24th, 2017 12:09 PM Author: judgmental ivory background story skinny woman (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2688155&forum_id=2#34998164) |