Date: July 19th, 2026 11:39 AM Author: Ocher startled french chef
all you guys who identify as "not a car guy" do you live in nyc where you don't need to own one, or do you own something bland and solid that does the job for you? if the latter i'd be genuinely interested to hear what it is and how you like it
Date: July 20th, 2026 12:56 AM Author: Ocher startled french chef
no way. maybe in a super lib district. where they also drive volvo and mb station wagons. back in the day, OK fine that's some local flavor. these days, i think it's clear the honda better fits the use. i will admit that i saw a wasp patrician who is massively land rich driving a 10 yo hyundai and it absolutely blew my mind
Date: July 20th, 2026 4:11 PM Author: Ocher startled french chef
lol cr. and also cr on the volvos: they've been going downhill under chinese ownership, just seem like maintenance on them is getting more expensive relative to the machine. but cutting the other direction, volvo ads are pretty good lately, doing these really long high production content based on family/safety https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQX-QXxwGvA
Date: July 16th, 2026 6:05 PM Author: embarrassed to the bone carmine half-breed
No. You might be thinking Audi since a lot of them are the exact same platform. The Q7 and Cayenne are on the same platform, the Macan and Q5 are on the same platform, their EVs are on the same platform and basically the same car with minor differences. But they're also super expensive in the US for the same reason (factories are in Germany).
Basically, if you're American and want a German car then BMW is the obvious answer.
Date: July 16th, 2026 6:12 PM Author: embarrassed to the bone carmine half-breed
Yes actually. I always used the depreciation to my advantage too. They also have a good CPO program so you can still get some warranty and they let you buy more years of coverage. Porsche does this too but with high resale values it isn't such a good value.
Date: July 16th, 2026 6:16 PM Author: useless chad library
I just can't imagine ever spending 140,000 dollars on a car. That's like, what? Two semesters at NYU? Crazy. For $47,000 for a beamer I'd buy three of em.
Date: July 16th, 2026 7:45 PM Author: Yellow Rigor
Well-equipped 911s and Caymans, yes.
Others will lose a smaller percentage to depreciation but will cost significantly more to operate for similar performance. E.g. a Cayenne might lose 45-48% of value after 5 years while an X5 loses 50-54%, but the X5 will be much cheaper to operate on a dollar basis because the Cayenne costs so much more when new.
Date: July 17th, 2026 4:13 PM Author: useless chad library
This is really the rift between enthusiasts and normal people. Nerds can't stomach performance SUVs because they're not a real trackday race car. Which is like, who effing cares lol. None of these people who buy high performance luxury sports cars are real racecar drivers either. What percentage of Porsche 911 GT3 owners ever take it to even one track day? If you're legitimately into motorsport as your real life hobby it's cool but 98% of consumers have to have zero interest. Hence performance SUVs.
Date: July 17th, 2026 7:03 PM Author: embarrassed to the bone carmine half-breed
I have a Ford Mach E GT with performance package as well. To me that is small. Someone asked me recently if I was getting the new Tesla Roadster and my response was "tf would I do with that?"
Date: July 16th, 2026 6:35 PM Author: Richard Ames
As others have pointed out, Porsche builds for sporting experience first in every product they release. And something like the 911 is a pure sports car built on a dedicated sports car platform, whereas even BMW’s sports cars are built on top of a base mainline product platform (eg the M3 is still built off of a regular 3 series platform).
Porsches are also far more connected to the road from a driver feel and engagement perspective, whereas BMWs have become extremely numb. Sure, many BMWs are fast, but you feel nothing driving them.
Strangely enough, the most engaging driver’s cars today primarily come from Porsche or Japan.
Date: July 16th, 2026 6:38 PM Author: useless chad library
What does a driver's car feel like to drive? I just hit the gas and go down the street. How much driving should I be doing and how much should I feel it?
Date: July 16th, 2026 6:41 PM Author: Richard Ames
Hard to really put into words, but you don’t need an expensive car even to understand this. Generally it feels like you can “feel” what the car is doing and where it has grip going into and coming out of corners. If it has a manual transmission, the shifter is engaging and the clutch point is clear. The steering should give real feedback based on the road and not just feel like a sim rig or totally fake.
IMO the most engaging cars also are fun to drive without needing to go 90+ mph.
Date: July 16th, 2026 11:04 PM Author: titillating old irish cottage senate
Yeah a lot of old japanese cars were fun because they were RWD and had good manual transmissions.
The answer to OP's question is that some Porsches put the engine in the ass-end and give you RWD plus a stick shift. That's an engineering feat no other company will attempt. The Porsches with the engine in the front are a different story.
Date: July 16th, 2026 11:53 PM Author: embarrassed to the bone carmine half-breed
Actually a bunch of them were FWD and still super fun - like the old Acura Integras. What made them fun was not that it was RWD vs FWD (many American alternatives were RWD) but that these cars were very light and the high revving Japanese engines made them far more agile/nimble than American cars of that era.
Date: July 16th, 2026 6:44 PM Author: useless chad library
I just think there are few things more boring than people who are really into cars. You seem cool in other ways and obviously someone needs to know about cars. But I get really sick of the token Car Guy at gatherings talking about cars.
Date: July 16th, 2026 7:13 PM Author: Richard Ames
When I sense someone is not a Car Guy I just talk about how Martin’s actual name was Michael King and that he plagiarized his PhD thesis. It is fairly successful.
Date: July 16th, 2026 8:38 PM Author: Crystalline Dilemma
lol, you'll be out on the patio talking with the women about the latest episode of real housewives while the men are talking about cars, guns, and other guy stuff
Date: July 16th, 2026 8:42 PM Author: Crystalline Dilemma
i'm not going to quote your post, but you should delete it. yes, non-man patio boy is going to just fuck all of the hot wives in the back of their kias, maybe hyundais, maybe subarus. he doesn't know because he's not a car guy, just a mega fucker.
Date: July 16th, 2026 8:43 PM Author: useless chad library
Now you're getting it. Women want attention, not for their man to go off and golf without them. There's a lot of desperate housewives out there. You'd be amazed.
Date: July 16th, 2026 7:48 PM Author: pink resort quadroon
Other than the fact that one of those I would be wiling to own outside of warranty, no, not really. At the end of the day there isn’t a lot of daylight between the personality defects of Overland Gear Strapped to Tacoma Guy and Lowered Blacked-Out M5 Guy
Date: July 16th, 2026 8:01 PM Author: Richard Ames
Extremely clean 25 year old Land Cruisers and Lexus LX trucks. Singer Porsche restomods. As the other poster said, AMG Wagons (performance wagons in general IMO).
Though the average person buying a BMW X5 probably thinks it makes them look rich / high status.
Date: July 16th, 2026 8:23 PM Author: Emerald school
lol yeah probably. also a very credited car if you actually want to drive it regularly though. i doubt id like having a ferrari unless i was mega mega rich
Date: July 16th, 2026 10:35 PM Author: embarrassed to the bone carmine half-breed
Yeah, to the extent they think about cars it is either a nice car or it is not. I guess there is about two levels of nice - BMW/Mercedes/Lexus/Porsche and then another step up for Ferrari/Lambo because they know they're more expensive.
Date: July 16th, 2026 10:37 PM Author: Yellow Rigor
I think they care even less than that. It's "Will I be embarrassed to be seen in this?" or not. A newer, clean Accord is perfectly fine if they like the guy.
Date: July 16th, 2026 10:53 PM Author: useless chad library
It's a lot cheaper to be a scumbag than it is to own a Ferrari. And some guys with a Ferrari can't get laid. In fact, probably a lot of Ferrari owners can't.
Date: July 16th, 2026 10:54 PM Author: useless chad library
I think a car is no longer the status symbol it used to be. RSF could just talk about vacations in France and that would end it for any guy with a cool car. Cars just aren't cool!
Date: July 16th, 2026 10:37 PM Author: useless chad library
Every chick who has fucked a guy with a Lambo has fucked a guy who lives with his mom and has a criminal record and no car and his license is suspended.
Date: July 20th, 2026 8:13 AM Author: canary cracking mediation
Isn't z4 actually better looking abd more functional than boxster? If it's just about the porsche steering wheel, might as well get a cayenne that every fat woman in my building has.
Date: July 20th, 2026 5:16 PM Author: Ocher startled french chef
BMW doesn't make drivers' cars any more, it's just for signaling. But yeah sure z4 probably has a bigger trunk and more comfortable for super long drives
Date: July 20th, 2026 8:17 AM Author: canary cracking mediation
If you want to signal status just get a bentley convertible. It's constantly displayed at my local shopping mall in Miami. It basically signals to a woman that you are willing to drop extra $200k just because of looks. Same reason you would buy a more expensive house,etc. BMW/Mercedes is something that welfare people in Harlem buy(they just buy it used)