Date: August 22nd, 2022 10:14 PM Author: Floppy bawdyhouse
nobody is impressed or chasing around 'yoked'men coasting into middle age except gigaproles and even then the degree of dating market prestige is still less. being in overall great shape is critical no matter what but not having any trace of DAT GUT or beer belly is huge. even in my coastal urban shithole, seems less than 1 in 10 men have no hint of belly or spare tire in their 40s. not having even a hint of a gut is a really youthful trait that is rare and signals a lot to the opposite sex.
before the roaring mad autists descend, i am not saying that the emaciated 48 year old endurance freak with knobby knees, granny shoulders and hollow eyes is more sought after than a jacked 40 year old with a hint of gut. this is all within reasonable limits. i am merely saying that having a truly washboard midsection with the attendant low body fat and good fitness level is far more rare and prestigious in middle age than walking around with extra upper body mass or swole arms. nobody cares if you're not lean and fit. you just look like a bloated prole who can't jog a mile but hits some curls twice a week.
start looking around. men in their 40s with a truly flat stomach are few and far between. for most, being even kind of fat at that age makes you seem substantially older.
Date: August 22nd, 2022 10:20 PM Author: ebony wild potus
Nah only guidettes from Strong Island and minorities care about big muscles past the age of like twenty two. It has long been understood that guys get huge mainly for other guys i.e. insecurity. Or it's a hobby but regardless.
Date: August 22nd, 2022 10:27 PM Author: Vermilion pozpig
I guess it is pretty impressive when you see a full blown suburban dad with no hint of dad bod. Most anyone truly big at my age are juicing or have some life component missing where they can log 10 hours of lifting a week so it's not impressive.
Diet is important. But I think the vast bulk of the benefits are in calorie control and getting enough protein. That and working out 3x per week would put most people in a pretty good position -- top 10% or so. Not elite, but pretty respectable.
Date: August 22nd, 2022 10:29 PM Author: Citrine Set
Maybe if you're an ectomorph. Most dudes aren't even all that strong when their BF% is in the 8-12% range b/c it's not natural to weight that much 24/7/365. Even most athletes don't go that low b/c you need fat on you to be able to function at your peak capacity.
Date: August 23rd, 2022 11:14 AM Author: Mint trip skinny woman
this is an example of two men who were once incredibly buff but the muscles have melted into fat. This is not unprestigious but the body OP refers to is better imo for a middle aged man
Date: August 24th, 2022 11:18 PM Author: at-the-ready address
somebody else said it but all these a-list famous bros just let it go in between projects because it's no thing to get it back, different than being ornery fat balding lawyer at 45 sucking in the gut when you profile in the mirror thinking "damn still got it"
IMO Chris pratt is the ideal for a middle aged kid-haver, it's achievable without roids if you have a home gym and don't gorge on bread and pizza and beer
Date: August 24th, 2022 4:31 PM Author: Floppy bawdyhouse
those are two guys who have naturally good builds who are contractually forced to get very muscular in short periods of time using a team of trainers, nutritionists, and handlers to optimize results. it’s their job to be in shape.
when they’re not being paid to do that, and also benefitting from being famous, handsome, rich dudes, they let themselves go for a bit. comparing them to anyone on the street is useless and they’re both notably bloated in those pictures. the average 40 year old will never have that musculature in the first place and neither are very lean, just not totally dilapidated like most men that age with that level of BF %.
Date: August 22nd, 2022 10:33 PM Author: plum mewling church building
the problem is that when you get 40+, being 'jacked' doesn't wear as well. your body just isn't as tightly held together, and you see pictures of like Tom Cruise w/ his shirt off, and even though he's got low BF% and 'abs' something about it looks weird. like his skin is all loose and he has bitch tits.
plus, when clothed, it looks like you are just generally 'bulky', and lots of guys still end up with HGH gut.
being thin/spare is just a better aesthetic in middle age, because it makes you look sharper, combats the natural tendency toward 'spreading' and overall bodily laxity.
Date: August 23rd, 2022 7:01 AM Author: nudist international law enforcement agency
Lol why mention Tom cruise as an example? He’s 60 not 40. Lol look at him in minority report when he was in his early 40s, looked ripped and great IIRC
Date: August 22nd, 2022 11:32 PM Author: jet curious public bath generalized bond
The number of guys who can do this in their 40s, while having a decent amount of muscle, is incredibly small. And yes OP, it's a nonlinear effect. Even a hint of a gut is very aging, similar to a little bit of balding. I would literally guess maybe 1-2% of guys in their 40s can claim this look.
Date: August 23rd, 2022 11:32 PM Author: Floppy bawdyhouse
it's truly not that hard you just have to be willing to be rigorous with diet and expect less for more hours of exercise. like fitness at any point in life, results come with time and consistency, not spurts of effort. it's 90% diet control but most middle aged men are too bitter and over everything to restrict themselves on a regular basis.
Date: August 23rd, 2022 11:40 PM Author: jet curious public bath generalized bond
If it weren't hard, more people would do it. Maybe it's easy for you; I've gotten to the point at which it's fairly easy for me. But it's too hard for the vast majority of guys.
Date: August 23rd, 2022 11:42 PM Author: Citrine Set
OP is a retarded ectomorph hard-gainer with no muscles trying to psyche himself up by telling people that being a twink at 40 is somehow better than being jacked and/or just having a regular old muscley dad bod.
Date: August 24th, 2022 1:58 AM Author: twisted maniacal knife point
Most 40+ guys who think they are jacked are not particularly jacked. They are fat with over-pumped arms from years of repetitive iso movements and can do like 7 max clean pullups. Unless you are lean and have good proportions nobody gives a fuck about your pretend carseat carrying IPA titty 'muscles.'
Date: August 24th, 2022 7:12 PM Author: twisted maniacal knife point
Far from it, I am a naturally big bodied person with a huge frame and I put weight on easily. I strive to be leaner. Only fats think being fat is masculine. It’s empirically linked to lower testosterone, especially if you’re older.
Date: August 23rd, 2022 12:10 AM Author: aromatic theatre
this is true IME just due to scarcity. everyone has spent decades seeing muscular people who just hit the gym fur sustained periods. being big carries more novelty when you are young adults transitioning from gawky teenagers to adult bodies. bring really lean in middle age is very rare. doesn't matter for shit if you're not also fit tho.
Date: August 23rd, 2022 12:20 AM Author: Pea-brained Alpha Macaca
You've hedged away all meaning and significance from your point with your "lol of course a chill fratty jacked guy on the golf course is going to do better than a dweeby marathoner in biker shorts duh" bullshit.
If your point -- as I try to formulate it from your mealy-mouthed OP -- is that the relative importance of musculature vs. thinness decreases with age, I don't agree. While the chris pratt body poasted above isn't the ideal body (best-case scenario is to be muscular AND trim, no shit), if you envision that same guy in the picture losing fat and muscle at roughly the same rate (thus moving toward the model you say is preferable), he's getting less attractive pretty much from the get-go and continue to get less attractive continuously to the point of emaciation.
If your (much more limited in applicability) point is that there's a brief period of time roughly corresponding to college-age where it is prestigious (and desirable to top-tier women of the same age) to have a jacked, shaved and oiled, bodybuilder-esque physique that would be laughable and mockable to continue having into your 30s and 40s (were it even possible), then I agree.
Date: August 24th, 2022 4:45 PM Author: Floppy bawdyhouse
you should be happy — for most of our younger lives, men have to work so much harder to be in impressive condition. as you get old, it levels off to what women have always enjoyed and rarely take advantage: just don’t be fat and stay fit.
your needless rage out over the mere assertion that staving off weight gain in middle age and being truly lean/thin (rather than just ‘not obese’) is more unique and impressive than muscle size confirms you are likely a paunchy skinny fat who thinks you have a rippling muscle under those 35 extra lbs in your midsection.
Date: August 24th, 2022 8:38 PM Author: Pea-brained Alpha Macaca
No what I’m reacting to in my mind is a whole tranche of middle-aged men IRL who are thin and well-dressed but look like pencil-necked dweebs that no one — and I actually do, seriously, mean “virtually no one” not just “not my camp of thinking on the subject” — thinks are attractive to women. These men are usually SHORT, where thinness then creates a special problem because the overall impression is of being PETITE, which no woman on the planet wants.
I shit on how pathetic and laughable bezos is all the time, but honestly that guy is better off laughably ripped than he would be as just a petite little ugly bald manletta. The guys I’m thinking of come off as asexual beings. Ectomorph, thin-lipped, eagle-scouty looking but not manly.
Obviously a 6’2” trim-as-fuck body with a full head of hair looks great, although I think this OP doesn’t give proper due to the benefits of casual, moderate-weight but regular, lifting. I’m thinking single-muscle-group shit like shoulder/military press, curls, bench. Having your pecs make an outline in your shirt — not necessarily pushing out, but contact visible — while you stomach doesn’t is huge, as is having arms that come close to filling the armhole of a t-shirt.
Date: August 24th, 2022 11:14 PM Author: at-the-ready address
bruh you seem to be in the fight of your life to rationalize that nobody is impressed with being thin and trim in your 40s, says more about you than reality
Date: August 23rd, 2022 1:13 AM Author: very tactful mental disorder
Lean and muscular, yes. Being some kind of ultra marathoner rail thin dude who looks like a 14 year old mid puberty except very wrinkled and saggy? No one wants to see that naked or have sex with it. But in reality 80+% of a dude’s sex appeal can be measured purely in testosterone and corresponding erection quality bc so many dudes in their 40s can’t stay fully hard any more and the most underappreciated aspect of sexual prowess of straight dudes is boner turgidity. You can be 6% bf but if your did dick doesn’t work bc you smash your balls on a bike seat for 4 hours a day or you run so much your body has to recruit all protein intake to repair your wearing joints and cartilage, then she’s not going to be dicked down properly and will cheat and/or leave you.
Date: August 23rd, 2022 7:04 AM Author: nudist international law enforcement agency
It’s crazy to me that so many people basically have lost their vitality in their 40s? It didn’t used to be like this. Men in the past were basically in their prime in their 40s/50s not low T cuck slobs. What will you do in your 50s, 60s, 70s? Scary thought
Date: August 23rd, 2022 7:39 AM Author: jet curious public bath generalized bond
My personal suspicion is that life expectancy is going to crash once Millennials reach late middle age and a lot of people's bodies just fall apart. Or else life expectancy will be sustained, but only with extensive new medical treatments that haven't been invented yet.
Date: August 23rd, 2022 10:29 AM Author: Laughsome Box Office
I agree. I do athletic stuff with guys in their 20s and bang girls in that age range. Meanwhile, I have plenty of friends around my age and even younger who look, act, and move like old men. These guys have zero vitality, are sexually invisible, and are basically just wage cucks/bank accounts for their wives waiting to die. It's insane.
I've said it before but it's worth repeating. The key is to never lose it. It's very hard to go from unhealthy slob to vibrant man once you're in your 40s. It's much easier if you develop healthy habits in your 20s and maintain your vitality.
Date: August 24th, 2022 7:16 PM Author: twisted maniacal knife point
You really have to consider exercise differently as you age. Injuries don’t heal and inflammatory stress can age you just as hard as a sedentary lifestyle if you go overboard.
Everything requires more thoughtfulness which is not hard but many people have a hard time wrapping their heads around any changes.
Date: August 23rd, 2022 10:55 AM Author: Citrine Set
Just do go from working physically 60-80 hours a week to sitting on ur ass for 60-80 hours a week and working out like 4-5 hrs. The human body responds to stimulus, there's basically zero need for 21st century humans to be big and strong. SAD!
Date: August 23rd, 2022 7:41 AM Author: ultramarine bateful sanctuary gaming laptop
Cr me and my core group of guy friends play soccer 5x a week now and go trail running most nights we all strive to be lean and lithe as we enter our mid 30s. Women frequently comment on it and ask for our autographs when they see us all together.
Date: August 23rd, 2022 5:30 PM Author: Marvelous school
Look at male models (Jordan Barrett, Chico lackowski, Jon kortajarena) and you will see that being thin is far more important than ripped, and I would even go as far as to say that bone structure (broad shoulders) is more important than muscular development. Low body fat outweighs gymcelling.
Date: August 23rd, 2022 11:34 PM Author: Floppy bawdyhouse
over 200 lbs at less than 18% BF at 6ft is always going to be impressive looking unless you have a horrendous natural phenotype. that's basically jon havery really toned. women couldn't get enough. it's harder to have those genes than to just be lean and fit.
Date: August 23rd, 2022 7:41 PM Author: Exhilarant Ocher Church Trust Fund
This 100%. People forget that height is truly supreme and the one thing you can’t teach, workout or change. Height is the #1 thing to women at all ages. No one cares what you look like. Everyone cares about how tall you are.
Date: August 23rd, 2022 7:47 PM Author: Exhilarant Ocher Church Trust Fund
Nah one of the amazing things about being 37 is that every girl in her early 20s is a 10. I want to cry when I think about the girls I made out with but didn’t fuck because it wasn’t worth it at the time. Now I jerk off to those memories.
Date: August 23rd, 2022 7:46 PM Author: startling field
There are so many factors but think about social media. Bitches just want to put up good pics of herself and nothing makes them look better than a tall guy
Date: August 24th, 2022 7:47 PM Author: Aggressive tanning salon
XO is saturated with aging inactive fatties who obsess over garbage fads like carnivore and keto so not surprised OP triggered the fuck out of them.
Small showing from the gymcels but by mid 30s they mostly realize that forearm aesthetics will not reverse the endless list of things that make them completely unattractive to women.
Date: August 24th, 2022 11:22 PM Author: at-the-ready address
google pics of kelly slater in his old age. that is what we should aspire to. very strong torso and core, some musculature but obviously not his focus, very lean. so much better than walking around with 25 extra pounds you swear you are going to take off pretty soon. being thin and athletic takes you from average to noticeable. fat and kinda strong ain't shit, that's every guy who is not a total pussy. nobody looks athletic after early 30s if they are also slowly getting fat. your face looks 10X better if you are pretty lean.
People who are in really good shape and not carrying extra weight in their 40s look much, much younger and more attractive. Even an extra 10-15 lbs can knock you right out of this.
Millenials are fat as fuck and will have a really hard time understanding that a 27 BMI doesn't look good on anyone who isn't a bodybuilding.
Date: February 4th, 2023 1:44 PM Author: nudist international law enforcement agency
Agreed. I think one reason being overweight ages you so much is because of the inflammation and damage to your body that comes from the food that makes you obese (refined carbs, processed foods, seed oils, etc). It’s really the damage to your body I think.
Seed oils are just a correlate for processed food. In isolation they aren’t harmful. We have much human outcome data demonstrating this. If you’re a fatass who’s eating a lot of processed food, and you were to suddenly replace the “seed oils” in it with say, butter, you wouldn’t magically lose weight. People who attribute to “seed oils” some unique inflammatory or obesegenic effect are usually diet grifting retards who focus on rat studies and not what the human data actually shows
Date: August 13th, 2023 9:46 PM Author: Floppy bawdyhouse
this reality will always anger the out of shape people who just quit any kind of taxing exercise or solid routine. they desperately want to believe they still look good but they all have dad bods.