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Dude, I think I solved metaphysics of Action
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bc1qfk03xf3zekand03r6xut652mq049duj7yhw3rt Date: November 10th, 2026 5:43 PM Author: The Penis (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5921118&forum_id=2#50248692) |
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https://www.gofundme.com/f/post-jungian-neo-jungian-archetypal-critique donate to me im gay Date: November 10th, 2026 5:43 PM Author: Metaphysics is solved Where are we at on this (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5921118&forum_id=2#50248694) |
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bc1qfk03xf3zekand03r6xut652mq049duj7yhw3rt Date: November 10th, 2026 5:45 PM Author: The Penis Not Solved yet actually but I wrote this down earlier and thought it sounded Smart. I haven’t loaded the thing into my Harness yet:
Action is a temporally extended process in which an organized system regulates its interventions in an environment according to an objective, using information about the consequences of those interventions to select and revise its behavior. |
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https://www.gofundme.com/f/post-jungian-neo-jungian-archetypal-critique donate to me im gay Date: November 10th, 2026 5:46 PM Author: Metaphysics is solved Is an action a thing motivated by a desire and a belief, or is an action equivalent to its intention? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5921118&forum_id=2#50248698) |
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bc1qfk03xf3zekand03r6xut652mq049duj7yhw3rt Date: November 10th, 2026 5:54 PM Author: The Penis My theory is more General. Most theories of action start with the psychology of human agency and then treat that psychology as constitutive of action itself. I think this is a Mistake. A bacterium navigating a chemical gradient performs Actions. My Harness performs actions that affect my computer too. I think Action is broader than arising from human psychological states. Davidsonian action is just a Special Case of regulated action (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5921118&forum_id=2#50248707) |
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https://www.gofundme.com/f/post-jungian-neo-jungian-archetypal-critique donate to me im gay Date: November 10th, 2026 5:55 PM Author: Metaphysics is solved Typically an Action must have a Reason attributable to the Mind involved in the Action. I don't think those things you describe are Actions in the relevant sense. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5921118&forum_id=2#50248712) |
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bc1qfk03xf3zekand03r6xut652mq049duj7yhw3rt Date: November 10th, 2026 5:59 PM Author: The Penis Beliefs, desires, and intentions may be mechanisms through which certain systems perform actions, but I don’t see why they must be necessary conditions for action. You can’t just assume that.
I would distinguish action generally from the narrower category of intentional, reason guided human action. Why should we assume mental states are constitutive of action and not just one way of realizing a more general structure of agency? |
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https://www.gofundme.com/f/post-jungian-neo-jungian-archetypal-critique donate to me im gay Date: November 10th, 2026 6:01 PM Author: Metaphysics is solved You're conflating Events with Actions. Actions require Intentional States. It's a matter of definition. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5921118&forum_id=2#50248724) |
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bc1qfk03xf3zekand03r6xut652mq049duj7yhw3rt Date: November 10th, 2026 6:06 PM Author: The Penis A stipulative definition cannot, by itself, establish that intentional states are metaphysically necessary for action. My agentic HARNESS selects interventions, executes them, evaluates their consequences, and revises its behavior according to feedback and objectives. That’s a causally organized process with properties that distinguish it from arbitrary events, making it Action under the stipulated definition of My Framework.
It’s a definition dude. Not Settled Metaphysics. |
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https://www.gofundme.com/f/post-jungian-neo-jungian-archetypal-critique donate to me im gay Date: November 10th, 2026 6:07 PM Author: Metaphysics is solved it does so via bits and boops. Those are Events not Actions. Doesnt matter that they're sophisticated bit/boop feedback loops. GS discussed this (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5921118&forum_id=2#50248738) |
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bc1qfk03xf3zekand03r6xut652mq049duj7yhw3rt Date: November 10th, 2026 6:11 PM Author: The Penis The physical substrate of a process doesn't, by itself, determine whether that process constitutes an action. That’s not Settled Metaphysics. Human actions are also physically realized through electrochemical activity, neural signaling, and muscular contractions. Describing those processes at the physical level doesn't establish that they are merely events. It doesn’t Solve the Metaphysics. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5921118&forum_id=2#50248746) |
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https://www.gofundme.com/f/post-jungian-neo-jungian-archetypal-critique donate to me im gay Date: November 10th, 2026 6:12 PM Author: Metaphysics is solved I think everyone working on Action agrees you need a Mind. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5921118&forum_id=2#50248748) |
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bc1qfk03xf3zekand03r6xut652mq049duj7yhw3rt Date: November 10th, 2026 6:16 PM Author: The Penis Dennett. Also I think Frankfurt rejected full mentalism about Actions. I’m sure there are many others. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5921118&forum_id=2#50248760) |
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https://www.gofundme.com/f/post-jungian-neo-jungian-archetypal-critique donate to me im gay Date: November 10th, 2026 6:18 PM Author: Metaphysics is solved That makes no sense. If allowed, all you have to do is Principle of Sufficient Reason and action is solved. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5921118&forum_id=2#50248765) |
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bc1qfk03xf3zekand03r6xut652mq049duj7yhw3rt Date: November 10th, 2026 6:22 PM Author: The Penis The capacity to perform actions and the capacity to experience, understand, or consciously intend those actions should be distinct. They are clearly separate things. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5921118&forum_id=2#50248779) |
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https://www.gofundme.com/f/post-jungian-neo-jungian-archetypal-critique donate to me im gay Date: November 10th, 2026 6:23 PM Author: Metaphysics is solved No that's literally what distinguishes an Action from an Event. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5921118&forum_id=2#50248782) |
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bc1qfk03xf3zekand03r6xut652mq049duj7yhw3rt Date: November 10th, 2026 6:41 PM Author: The Penis So if a bee gets agitated because I hit it’s best with a stick, would you say we can’t yet know if this was an action or an event, until we figure out if it has Mental States and at that point we would know the truth? To me it shouldn’t make a difference what it’s level of awareness or internal states are. There is clearly a difference between an animal defensively stinging me and a rock falling on my head. Those cant be both “just events”. The organism is taking an action. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5921118&forum_id=2#50248821) |