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lol, fugly Anna (Sepia Mutiny) disses us HERE!

Date: May 24th, 2007 4:13 PM Author: suitablegirl Subject:...
Lake Vigorous Meetinghouse People Who Are Hurt
  05/24/07
LOLZ. The thing is, I was dissing *you* not everyone else. ...
irradiated free-loading wrinkle chapel
  05/24/07
rate me as a poster.
big hissy fit
  05/24/07
You're the one who obviously needs English lessons, FOB.
Lake Vigorous Meetinghouse People Who Are Hurt
  05/24/07
i said that i masturbated to your picture. what more do you ...
glittery impertinent puppy
  05/24/07
EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWwwwwwww!!!!!
razzle-dazzle twisted address sweet tailpipe
  05/24/07
she's not fugly dood
Vibrant Seedy Parlour
  05/25/07
EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWwwwwwwww!!! You must be, like, blind, ma...
razzle-dazzle twisted address sweet tailpipe
  05/26/07
we can't all be blonde, bitch.
Bat-shit-crazy Cracking Newt Mad-dog Skullcap
  05/26/07
:'( I'm gonna hit u w/ my mad typin skillz!!!
razzle-dazzle twisted address sweet tailpipe
  05/26/07
this is really mean
shimmering thriller halford
  06/02/07
your picture makes it impossible the judge the girth of your...
stirring godawful juggernaut
  05/24/07
wtf is going on here?
Electric sick stag film
  05/24/07
dumb cunt Anna John, a blogger from sepiamutiny.com, thought...
Lake Vigorous Meetinghouse People Who Are Hurt
  05/24/07
i'm pretty tired of this bullshit.
Electric sick stag film
  05/24/07
tdmc posted her blogpost re Materialista Mitra here. she go...
Bat-shit-crazy Cracking Newt Mad-dog Skullcap
  05/24/07
i just don't get the 'let's start a war with some girl and t...
Electric sick stag film
  05/24/07
Who'z Kavya?
dun piazza
  05/24/07
harvard plagiarist. actually, it probably goes back at le...
Electric sick stag film
  05/24/07
OK. Thanks. I guess J. Chen was before the 'dog torture...
dun piazza
  05/24/07
yes. she was huge fucking titties at penn law. now that i ...
Electric sick stag film
  05/24/07
But I guess the 'huge titties' girls were more along the lin...
dun piazza
  05/24/07
not really. even the original hft girl was outted.
Electric sick stag film
  05/24/07
oh, credited. I think it's bc the average tdmc couldn't get...
Bat-shit-crazy Cracking Newt Mad-dog Skullcap
  05/24/07
actually anna seems to be pretty hot -- and I don't have cha...
Bat-shit-crazy Cracking Newt Mad-dog Skullcap
  05/24/07
srsly?
dun piazza
  05/24/07
oh
dun piazza
  05/24/07
All female posters on xoxo are fugly: prime xoxo meme.
Bat-shit-crazy Cracking Newt Mad-dog Skullcap
  05/24/07
http://anna.typepad.com/./photos/uncategorized/2007/05/24/lo...
Bat-shit-crazy Cracking Newt Mad-dog Skullcap
  05/24/07
hm
dun piazza
  05/24/07
i really did masturbate this time.
glittery impertinent puppy
  05/24/07
Hi fugly whore-ji Anna John! Purple is not your color....
Lake Vigorous Meetinghouse People Who Are Hurt
  05/24/07
she looks sweet, man what is your problem?
Bat-shit-crazy Cracking Newt Mad-dog Skullcap
  05/24/07
flame
Lake Vigorous Meetinghouse People Who Are Hurt
  05/24/07
I think she's pretty cute.
Titillating maroon fortuitous meteor
  05/24/07
I heard that Anna John had herpes http://www.autoadmit.co...
Lake Vigorous Meetinghouse People Who Are Hurt
  05/24/07
I heard that your mom had herpes.
Titillating maroon fortuitous meteor
  05/24/07
what was that about your mom?
Lake Vigorous Meetinghouse People Who Are Hurt
  05/24/07
whoa. good one. she says hey.
Titillating maroon fortuitous meteor
  05/24/07
no worse than urs, dooder.
Lake Vigorous Meetinghouse People Who Are Hurt
  05/24/07
meh. i didnt expect mine to carry much weight to be perfectl...
Titillating maroon fortuitous meteor
  05/24/07
LIBEL PER SE!
Brilliant University Philosopher-king
  05/24/07
only if it's false...;)
Lake Vigorous Meetinghouse People Who Are Hurt
  05/27/07
I guess
dun piazza
  05/24/07
...
Lake Vigorous Meetinghouse People Who Are Hurt
  05/29/07
anna is cool and cute, and sepia mutiny is one of the few si...
razzmatazz amethyst spot main people
  05/24/07
lulz
galvanic athletic conference antidepressant drug
  05/24/07
titOcr cumslurper Anna John of sepiamutiny.com is hardly ...
Lake Vigorous Meetinghouse People Who Are Hurt
  05/24/07
i hope you're not a guy who reads that crap
Vibrant Seedy Parlour
  05/24/07
go back to dotland nigger.
bespoke regret
  05/26/07
Damn that bitch has some yellow-ass teeth.
bespoke regret
  05/27/07
Do any of you actually interact with women IRL? And no, watc...
Charcoal Pisswyrm
  05/27/07
I avoid nonwhites, sry.
bespoke regret
  05/27/07
yes. why do you ask?
Bat-shit-crazy Cracking Newt Mad-dog Skullcap
  05/27/07
You guys are really pathetic. Another woman that you decide ...
Dashing fantasy-prone state macaca
  05/27/07
titcr. I wonder if any of the guys here actually leave their...
Charcoal Pisswyrm
  05/27/07
yeah--Anna John's "cold sores" are barely visible!
Lake Vigorous Meetinghouse People Who Are Hurt
  05/30/07
Self-hating 16-year-old virgin pwned.
duck-like sienna resort
  05/30/07
"no good reason"? Date: May 24th, 2007 4:13 ...
Lake Vigorous Meetinghouse People Who Are Hurt
  05/30/07
she's good looking
thirsty stimulating associate
  05/30/07
ding, fag!
Lake Vigorous Meetinghouse People Who Are Hurt
  05/30/07
I haven't been following this, but that girl doesn't have an...
embarrassed to the bone new version native
  06/02/07
Maybe if you're drunk. And her lips are chowing on ur dic...
Lake Vigorous Meetinghouse People Who Are Hurt
  06/04/07


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Date: May 24th, 2007 4:15 PM
Author: Lake Vigorous Meetinghouse People Who Are Hurt

Date: May 24th, 2007 4:13 PM

Author: suitablegirl

Subject: This is Anna, "the blogger" who wrote about Natasha.

I wrote the post about Natasha Mitra's bag being fugly on Sepia Mutiny (http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/004458.html) which was reprinted on Indiasphere.net.

There seems to be confusion about what Natasha Mitra looks like; to cloud this important-to-misogynists issue further, a few of you decided to use MY picture to help you decide if Miss Mitra was ugly or worthy of getting a facial from you, etc. It's okay-- I know, all curry-scented cow-worshippers must look alike to you, especially when we wear oversized sunglasses.

Some of you went to my blog and came back complaining of a lack of pictures which would prove that I am not the girl with the fugly $$$ purse; I have updated accordingly.

http://anna.typepad.com/herstory/2007/05/im_anna_not_nat.html

To those of you who patiently attempted to point out the obvious case of mistaken identity, thank you. To those of you who decided to rip me to shreds even though I didn't brag about blowing thousands on my purse to NY mag: vaya con dios and brush up on those reading comp skills-- I was pretty clear about who was in which picture, but beinig accurate isn't as fun as being a dick, right?

(This chick is super prestigious)



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8163303)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 4:23 PM
Author: irradiated free-loading wrinkle chapel

LOLZ. The thing is, I was dissing *you* not everyone else. But again, your reading comp skills...

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8163346)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 4:23 PM
Author: big hissy fit

rate me as a poster.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8163351)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 5:06 PM
Author: Lake Vigorous Meetinghouse People Who Are Hurt

You're the one who obviously needs English lessons, FOB.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8163566)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 5:08 PM
Author: glittery impertinent puppy

i said that i masturbated to your picture. what more do you want?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8163580)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 5:34 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle twisted address sweet tailpipe

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWwwwwwww!!!!!

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8163702)



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Date: May 25th, 2007 11:09 PM
Author: Vibrant Seedy Parlour

she's not fugly dood

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8170609)



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Date: May 26th, 2007 10:49 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle twisted address sweet tailpipe

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWwwwwwwww!!!

You must be, like, blind, man!

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8171832)



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Date: May 26th, 2007 12:26 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy Cracking Newt Mad-dog Skullcap

we can't all be blonde, bitch.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8171917)



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Date: May 26th, 2007 3:32 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle twisted address sweet tailpipe

:'(

I'm gonna hit u w/ my mad typin skillz!!!

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8172376)



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Date: June 2nd, 2007 9:02 PM
Author: shimmering thriller halford
Subject: this is really mean

some bitch has created a site dissing anna john of sepia mutiny:

http://unsuitablegirl.wordpress.com

what a low-life, pathetic idiot. get a life, bitch. anna is a sweet, genuine person, but of course you wouldn't know that since you never get out of the basement. fuckers.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8203653)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 4:31 PM
Author: stirring godawful juggernaut

your picture makes it impossible the judge the girth of your ass.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8163392)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 4:38 PM
Author: Electric sick stag film

wtf is going on here?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8163432)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 5:33 PM
Author: Lake Vigorous Meetinghouse People Who Are Hurt

dumb cunt Anna John, a blogger from sepiamutiny.com, thought she'd drop by & mess w/us.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8163695)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 6:26 PM
Author: Electric sick stag film

i'm pretty tired of this bullshit.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8163933)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 6:28 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy Cracking Newt Mad-dog Skullcap

tdmc posted her blogpost re Materialista Mitra here.

she got a lot of blog traffic from xoxo; wondered why.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8163938)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 6:34 PM
Author: Electric sick stag film

i just don't get the 'let's start a war with some girl and teach her a lesson' stuff.

i guess it traces back to kaavya, which was amusing. then came jill f, lena chen, heide i, etc. this just seems beyond stupid.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8163962)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 6:35 PM
Author: dun piazza

Who'z Kavya?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8163970)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 6:38 PM
Author: Electric sick stag film

harvard plagiarist.

actually, it probably goes back at least to opinionista, but jamie chen was probably the first non-poster targeted. i guess it really is an xo tradition now.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8163987)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 6:40 PM
Author: dun piazza

OK. Thanks.

I guess J. Chen was before the 'dog torturer' (I forget who)?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8163999)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 6:46 PM
Author: Electric sick stag film

yes. she was huge fucking titties at penn law. now that i think about it, there was huge fucking titties at harvard a long time before that.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8164031)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 6:49 PM
Author: dun piazza

But I guess the 'huge titties' girls were more along the lines of "Rate Her!" threads, rather than ill-intent, yes?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8164045)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 6:55 PM
Author: Electric sick stag film

not really. even the original hft girl was outted.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8164067)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 6:37 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy Cracking Newt Mad-dog Skullcap

oh, credited.

I think it's bc the average tdmc couldn't get laid in a whorehouse with a jockstrap made of $100 bills, and that makes him misogynistic.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8163980)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 5:03 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy Cracking Newt Mad-dog Skullcap

actually anna seems to be pretty hot -- and I don't have chapatti fever.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8163553)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 5:07 PM
Author: dun piazza

srsly?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8163572)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 5:11 PM
Author: dun piazza

oh

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8163605)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 5:13 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy Cracking Newt Mad-dog Skullcap

All female posters on xoxo are fugly: prime xoxo meme.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8163609)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 5:12 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy Cracking Newt Mad-dog Skullcap

http://anna.typepad.com/./photos/uncategorized/2007/05/24/looking_back.jpg

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8163606)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 5:13 PM
Author: dun piazza

hm

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8163611)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 5:19 PM
Author: glittery impertinent puppy

i really did masturbate this time.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8163628)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 5:16 PM
Author: Lake Vigorous Meetinghouse People Who Are Hurt

Hi fugly whore-ji Anna John!

Purple is not your color...

http://www.hidebehind.com/505248

Trim that hair outta ur shnozz, willya??

http://www.hidebehind.com/87A9B5

And one more for good measure...

http://www.hidebehind.com/18FADB

(This chick is super prestigious)



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8163619)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 5:34 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy Cracking Newt Mad-dog Skullcap

she looks sweet, man

what is your problem?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8163701)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 5:51 PM
Author: Lake Vigorous Meetinghouse People Who Are Hurt

flame

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8163781)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 5:18 PM
Author: Titillating maroon fortuitous meteor

I think she's pretty cute.



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8163626)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 6:03 PM
Author: Lake Vigorous Meetinghouse People Who Are Hurt

I heard that Anna John had herpes

ANNA JOHN, POSTER, CAUGHT HERPES

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8163837)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 6:22 PM
Author: Titillating maroon fortuitous meteor

I heard that your mom had herpes.



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8163919)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 6:31 PM
Author: Lake Vigorous Meetinghouse People Who Are Hurt

what was that about your mom?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8163947)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 6:49 PM
Author: Titillating maroon fortuitous meteor

whoa. good one.

she says hey.



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8164043)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 6:50 PM
Author: Lake Vigorous Meetinghouse People Who Are Hurt

no worse than urs, dooder.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8164049)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 6:53 PM
Author: Titillating maroon fortuitous meteor

meh. i didnt expect mine to carry much weight to be perfectly honest. mom jokes are so 1994.



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8164058)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 9:30 PM
Author: Brilliant University Philosopher-king

LIBEL PER SE!

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8164935)



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Date: May 27th, 2007 2:19 PM
Author: Lake Vigorous Meetinghouse People Who Are Hurt

only if it's false...;)

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8175271)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 5:39 PM
Author: dun piazza

I guess

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8163721)



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Date: May 29th, 2007 9:52 PM
Author: Lake Vigorous Meetinghouse People Who Are Hurt



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8185509)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 6:20 PM
Author: razzmatazz amethyst spot main people

anna is cool and cute, and sepia mutiny is one of the few sites i read daily. not a good target, guys.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8163908)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 6:21 PM
Author: galvanic athletic conference antidepressant drug

lulz

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8163912)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 6:23 PM
Author: Lake Vigorous Meetinghouse People Who Are Hurt

titOcr

cumslurper Anna John of sepiamutiny.com is hardly cute...unless you find herpes sores comely, I mean.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8163924)



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Date: May 24th, 2007 6:23 PM
Author: Vibrant Seedy Parlour

i hope you're not a guy who reads that crap

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8163927)



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Date: May 26th, 2007 4:47 PM
Author: bespoke regret

go back to dotland nigger.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8172655)



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Date: May 27th, 2007 2:41 PM
Author: bespoke regret

Damn that bitch has some yellow-ass teeth.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8175332)



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Date: May 27th, 2007 3:15 PM
Author: Charcoal Pisswyrm

Do any of you actually interact with women IRL? And no, watching porn doesn't count.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8175414)



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Date: May 27th, 2007 3:19 PM
Author: bespoke regret

I avoid nonwhites, sry.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8175424)



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Date: May 27th, 2007 3:23 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy Cracking Newt Mad-dog Skullcap

yes.

why do you ask?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8175442)



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Date: May 27th, 2007 3:35 PM
Author: Dashing fantasy-prone state macaca

You guys are really pathetic. Another woman that you decide to bash non-stop for no good reason. What is your reasoning this time?

I really dislike the 16-year old virgin loser contingent on this site.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8175469)



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Date: May 27th, 2007 3:44 PM
Author: Charcoal Pisswyrm

titcr. I wonder if any of the guys here actually leave their basement once in a while and turn off the porn. She is cute, not ugly

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8175493)



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Date: May 30th, 2007 4:11 PM
Author: Lake Vigorous Meetinghouse People Who Are Hurt

yeah--Anna John's "cold sores" are barely visible!

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8188359)



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Date: May 30th, 2007 4:18 PM
Author: duck-like sienna resort

Self-hating 16-year-old virgin pwned.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8188373)



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Date: May 30th, 2007 4:23 PM
Author: Lake Vigorous Meetinghouse People Who Are Hurt

"no good reason"?

Date: May 24th, 2007 4:13 PM

Author: suitablegirl

Subject: This is Anna, "the blogger" who wrote about Natasha.

I wrote the post about Natasha Mitra's bag being fugly on Sepia Mutiny (http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/004458.html) which was reprinted on Indiasphere.net.

There seems to be confusion about what Natasha Mitra looks like; to cloud this important-to-misogynists issue further, a few of you decided to use MY picture to help you decide if Miss Mitra was ugly or worthy of getting a facial from you, etc. It's okay-- I know, all curry-scented cow-worshippers must look alike to you, especially when we wear oversized sunglasses.

Some of you went to my blog and came back complaining of a lack of pictures which would prove that I am not the girl with the fugly $$$ purse; I have updated accordingly.

http://anna.typepad.com/herstory/2007/05/im_anna_not_nat.html

To those of you who patiently attempted to point out the obvious case of mistaken identity, thank you. To those of you who decided to rip me to shreds even though I didn't brag about blowing thousands on my purse to NY mag: vaya con dios and brush up on those reading comp skills-- I was pretty clear about who was in which picture, but beinig accurate isn't as fun as being a dick, right?

(This chick is super prestigious)

htfh

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8188391)



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Date: May 30th, 2007 4:13 PM
Author: thirsty stimulating associate

she's good looking

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8188363)



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Date: May 30th, 2007 4:14 PM
Author: Lake Vigorous Meetinghouse People Who Are Hurt

ding, fag!

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8188367)



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Date: June 2nd, 2007 9:04 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone new version native

I haven't been following this, but that girl doesn't have anythign to be ashamed about - she's pretty.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8203659)



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Date: June 4th, 2007 3:26 PM
Author: Lake Vigorous Meetinghouse People Who Are Hurt

Maybe if you're drunk.

And her lips are chowing on ur dick.

Nah, never mind...

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=636167&forum_id=2#8211456)