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Tech Billionaires secretly funding scientists to get them out of the simulation

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/new...
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Date: October 6th, 2016 8:17 PM
Author: appetizing bipolar legend

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/computer-simulation-world-matrix-scientists-elon-musk-artificial-intelligence-ai-a7347526.html

Some of the world’s richest and most powerful people are convinced that we are living in a computer simulation. And now they’re trying to do something about it.

At least two of Silicon Valley’s tech billionaires are pouring money into efforts to break humans out of the simulation that they believe that it is living in, according to a new report.

Philosophers have long been concerned about how we can know that our world isn’t just a very believable simulation of a real one. But concern about that has become ever more active in recent years, as computers and artificial intelligence have advanced.

Elon Musk - The chance that we are not living in a computer simulation is 'one in billions'

That has led some tech billionaires to speculate that the chances we are not living in such a simulation is “billions to one”. Even Bank of America analysts wrote last month that the chances we are living in a Matrix-style fictional world is as high as 50 per cent.

READ MORE

We are living in a computer simulation, Elon Musk says

And now at least two billionaires are funding scientists in an effort to try and break us out of that simulation. It isn’t clear what form that work is taking.

“Many people in Silicon Valley have become obsessed with the simulation hypothesis, the argument that what we experience as reality is in fact fabricated in a computer,” writes The New Yorker’s Tad Friend. “Two tech billionaires have gone so far as to secretly engage scientists to work on breaking us out of the simulation.”

The detail came from a New Yorker profile of Sam Altman, who runs Y Combinator which helps develop tech companies.

Mr Friend didn’t indicate whether Mr Altman was one of those two, or who those people might be. A number of prominent tech billionaires have discussed the idea of the simulation – including Elon Musk, who has used his fortune to fund potentially odd efforts in the past.

Mr Musk spoke earlier this year about the fact that he believes that the chance that we are not living in a computer simulation is “one in billions”. He said that he had come to that conclusion after a chat in a hot tub, where it was pointed out that computing technology has advanced so quickly that at some point in the future it will become indistinguishable from real life – and, if it does, there’s no reason to think that it hasn’t done already and that that’s what we are currently living through.

If we aren’t actually living through a simulation, Mr Musk said, then all human life is probably about to come to an end and so we should hope that we are living in one. “Otherwise, if civilisation stops advancing, then that may be due to some calamitous event that stops civilisation,” he said at the Recode conference.

Mr Altman seemed to echo that fear and told the New Yorker that he was concerned about the way that the devices that surround us might lead to the extinction of all consciousness in the universe. He spoke about how the best scenario for dealing with that is a “merge” – when our brains and computers become one, perhaps by having our brains uploaded into the cloud.

“These phones already control us,” he said. “The merge has begun – and a merge is our best scenario. Any version without a merge will have conflict: we enslave the A.I. or it enslaves us.

“The full-on-crazy version of the merge is we get our brains uploaded into the cloud. I’d love that. We need to level up humans, because our descendants will either conquer the galaxy or extinguish consciousness in the universe forever. What a time to be alive!

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Date: October 6th, 2016 8:20 PM
Author: peach mischievous striped hyena halford

Lol. Fuxking Mario and luigi going down tunnel after tunnel trying to bust out of their cartridge

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Date: October 6th, 2016 8:21 PM
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Date: October 6th, 2016 8:24 PM
Author: provocative senate

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Date: October 6th, 2016 8:55 PM
Author: ponyboy curtis

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Date: October 6th, 2016 9:57 PM
Author: poppy volcanic crater tanning salon

Thread should've ended here.

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Date: October 6th, 2016 10:40 PM
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Date: October 7th, 2016 12:38 AM
Author: Salmon internet-worthy temple

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Date: October 21st, 2016 2:58 PM
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(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31698351)



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Date: November 19th, 2016 10:59 AM
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Date: December 7th, 2016 1:47 AM
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(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#32155640)



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(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#32362737)



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Date: February 24th, 2017 4:18 PM
Author: peach mischievous striped hyena halford

ty brother

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#32692929)



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Date: January 28th, 2018 3:21 PM
Author: DR. trillionaire (Ed.D., moon studies)

cr i think about it once a month

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#35261220)



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(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#32692539)



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(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#32692995)



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(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#32693006)



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Date: July 26th, 2017 1:03 AM
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(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#33856890)



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Date: January 28th, 2018 3:12 PM
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(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#35261159)



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(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#42747078)



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(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#45401014)



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Date: October 28th, 2022 9:47 AM
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(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#45401018)



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(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#46987239)



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(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#46987251)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 8:21 PM
Author: provocative senate

"Even Bank of America analysts wrote last month that the chances we are living in a Matrix-style fictional world is as high as 50 per cent."

We didn't commit fraud. This money is all make believe.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31575498)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 8:22 PM
Author: peach mischievous striped hyena halford

How do u even calculate those odds?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31575509)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 8:24 PM
Author: provocative senate

It's either a simulation or it isn't: 50/50.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31575518)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 8:25 PM
Author: Vibrant chrome plaza hissy fit

(probability masterman)

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31575527)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 9:02 PM
Author: primrose beady-eyed background story principal's office

Bayesian masterman

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31575767)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 9:06 PM
Author: carmine rebellious azn crackhouse



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31575806)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 9:59 PM
Author: citrine codepig

Fuck bro you are killing it tonight!

I am climbing out of my head with this right now!

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31576186)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 10:00 PM
Author: Sapphire razzmatazz public bath dragon



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31576190)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 10:58 PM
Author: laughsome clown space



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31576697)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 11:02 PM
Author: cracking garrison



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31576749)



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Date: October 8th, 2016 10:36 AM
Author: Crusty Garnet Goyim



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31587278)



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Date: October 28th, 2022 9:47 AM
Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt)



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#45401021)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 8:24 PM
Author: lascivious bat-shit-crazy market immigrant

bank of america analysts, everybody.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31575521)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 8:26 PM
Author: startled gaped stag film

Nevermind the whole "its an expanding universe" thing and if it really is a simulation then we are living in a literal buffer overflow.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31575533)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 9:38 PM
Author: Olive Narrow-minded Abode

What

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31576007)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 8:25 PM
Author: appetizing bipolar legend



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31575529)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 8:26 PM
Author: provocative senate

All fiat currency is make believe. (CGM)

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31575534)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 8:22 PM
Author: Angry Stirring Marketing Idea Ticket Booth

If we're living in a computer simulation then why go to Mars?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31575505)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 8:23 PM
Author: peach mischievous striped hyena halford

Unlock cool avatar

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31575511)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 8:34 PM
Author: appetizing bipolar legend

lol

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31575583)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 8:40 PM
Author: dude, you did a murder



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31575616)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 8:53 PM
Author: black embarrassed to the bone lettuce



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31575709)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 10:40 PM
Author: Ruddy cruel-hearted property son of senegal



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31576515)



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Date: October 7th, 2016 12:06 AM
Author: nudist spot

rofl

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31577183)



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Date: October 7th, 2016 12:38 AM
Author: Salmon internet-worthy temple



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31577326)



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Date: October 7th, 2016 1:52 AM
Author: bat shit crazy concupiscible digit ratio



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31577544)



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Date: October 8th, 2016 4:05 PM
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Date: October 6th, 2016 8:23 PM
Author: startled gaped stag film

These tards have a very piss poor understanding of modern cosmology if they fell for this. We've basically ruled out both the holographic universe and the simulation universe theories and today when cosmologists say the universe is a simulation they only mean that there may be higher dimensional physics at play in the creation of our universe that we can never observe or understand from our position in the post-big bang universe.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31575510)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 8:24 PM
Author: peach mischievous striped hyena halford

I think the goal is to just say that the "computer" is God without calling it god

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31575520)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 8:36 PM
Author: carmine rebellious azn crackhouse



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31575593)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 10:05 PM
Author: citrine codepig

Why do you think it fails bro?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31576240)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 10:24 PM
Author: citrine codepig

You are not a believer because you allocate 1/3 probability to it being true?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31576394)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 11:41 PM
Author: citrine codepig

1/3 to humans losing interest and 1/3 to not around.

These 2/3 could encompass kingdom of heaven end of world.

Why catholcism? Why Not deep buddhism?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31577040)



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Date: October 7th, 2016 12:33 AM
Author: Haunting multi-colored home mediation

(180 MPC bro)

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31577303)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 8:24 PM
Author: provocative senate

break;

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31575519)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 8:28 PM
Author: nighttime cruise ship karate



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31575556)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 8:26 PM
Author: Startling Flushed University Famous Landscape Painting

good. i hope they escape and are immediately engulfed by an incomprehensible lovecraftian horror.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31575535)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 9:21 PM
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(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31576720)



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Date: October 7th, 2016 12:07 AM
Author: nudist spot

honestly what I was imagining would happen when they break through

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31577191)



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Date: October 7th, 2016 2:41 PM
Author: cracking garrison



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Date: May 10th, 2017 8:26 PM
Author: Startling Flushed University Famous Landscape Painting



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Date: October 6th, 2016 8:29 PM
Author: Startling Flushed University Famous Landscape Painting

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107362/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31575562)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 10:56 PM
Author: citrine codepig



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Date: October 6th, 2016 8:34 PM
Author: Exhilarant Dopamine

Child rape is just computers trying to keep things interesting

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31575584)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 8:36 PM
Author: startled gaped stag film

I'm a physics buff in my spare time.

The debunking of the "its a simulation" BS is very easy.

1. A perfect simulation of any universe from within that universe is impossible due to what we know about accessible information in quantum systems. Holevo's theory basically says there aren't enough subatomic particles in all of creation to model the universe perfectly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holevo%27s_theorem

You end up needing 2 to the n power - 1 subatomic particles for your simulation and all you have is n particles.

2. If its an imperfect simulation and the universe really is expanding to infinity then the simulation is a running buffer overflow and will result in a null result. ARE creator is a bad programmer and will be supper pissed when the simulation crashes -- literally blue screen of death. God is a fucktard. Since we have yet to observe any other obvious programming bugs it aint very likely that we are living in a buffer overflow since that's the kind of bug a super being would not introduce.



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31575594)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 8:45 PM
Author: carmine rebellious azn crackhouse



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Date: October 6th, 2016 9:45 PM
Author: citrine codepig

Fucking A

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31576058)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 9:57 PM
Author: citrine codepig

I get a chill reading this

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31576160)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 10:01 PM
Author: Sapphire razzmatazz public bath dragon

(smart poaster)

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31576205)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 10:27 PM
Author: citrine codepig

I hope this poaster stays around, inasmuch as if he were to write books, I would be a big fan of them.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31576405)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 11:27 PM
Author: carmine rebellious azn crackhouse



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31576932)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 11:37 PM
Author: citrine codepig

How can you get extensive mindbending training in advanced mathematics and a precise way of thinking without that affecting or impairing your faith thinking?

Why catholicism, why not any other faith with the same cerebration?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31577009)



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Date: October 7th, 2016 12:40 AM
Author: carmine rebellious azn crackhouse



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31577338)



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Date: October 7th, 2016 9:18 AM
Author: citrine codepig

Credited. I appreciate the time you put into this as well as the extent of deliberation, and frankly, intellectual candor. Let me review it as it is dense AF.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31578143)



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Date: October 7th, 2016 9:27 AM
Author: passionate pearl toaster gay wizard

Thoughts on Nietzsche?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31578187)



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Date: October 7th, 2016 9:28 AM
Author: bat shit crazy concupiscible digit ratio

Fuck off doobs

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31578191)



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Date: October 7th, 2016 9:56 AM
Author: citrine codepig

Okay, sounds like you have some blind spots here, as we all do, most of which you at least make an effort to acknowledge are out there. Sounds like in the end you could study the intellectual tradition of any other religion that has been around long enough, weathering centuries of university debate and the odd and wasteful commitment of the best minds to dwelling on its philosophical issues angels-on-the-head-of-pins over the millennia, but you just haven't, understandably. You may find the same level of gratification and "truthiness" there in some other long and old-ass faith tradition that captured the best minds for millennia... you just haven't made that a task for yourself (and why should you--it would take years and deep cultural immersion in an alien tradition--and you've already had that cultural immersion in the Catholic traditions just by dint of growing up and living how and where you live.

As for atheism often including a lot of intellectual free riders such as liberalism, feminism, gay rights etc.

I suppose that it comes from the thinking that if there is no God-ordered set of morality, then we have to forge our own from certain principals, such as an appreciation and valorization of the idea of allowing people to flourish individually, to be their best, to grow unfettered, etc. (wanting the fairest society assuming we don't know whether we'll be on top or bottom in this society) and the current thinking is that "hands off" on another's private thoughts and public expression is the best way to get there. (True or not, I don't know--monarchists might say otherwise!) But aristocratic societies tend to wipe out over violence in a way that democracy thus far has not, so, that's the paradigm we've got. An interesting line of inquiry, right?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31578414)



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Date: October 7th, 2016 2:12 PM
Author: citrine codepig



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31580239)



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Date: October 7th, 2016 2:17 PM
Author: citrine codepig

What are your thoughts on IQ selection eugenics models currently being contemplated in China. Does this conflict with your religious beliefs what about gamete selection only?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31580277)



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Date: October 7th, 2016 9:39 PM
Author: citrine codepig



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31583835)



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Date: October 8th, 2016 10:34 AM
Author: citrine codepig

Fuck bro! I didnt mean to make you delete! Hoped we could be buds

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31587266)



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Date: October 8th, 2016 2:01 PM
Author: carmine rebellious azn crackhouse

it wasn't your questions. the response on XO made me think there might be more people than i thought interested in hearing about my ideas, but i think there are much better venues than XO posts for reaching an interested audience, and that i can write much more convincing arguments for them if i put more time into it than i would put into writing late night drunk XO posts. my ideas and perhaps also writing style are distinctive enough that anyone who read my posts and whatever book/essay/blog/etc i might write later will realize quickly they are written by the same guy, and i'd rather not be outed that way.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31588690)



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Date: October 8th, 2016 4:01 PM
Author: citrine codepig

Gotcha. You are correct I think. Don't go into mysticism in your middle age though bro! It would gum up your amazing thoughts which blow my mind and make me smarter and teach me thinking skills. Do you have a throwaway?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31589666)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 10:39 PM
Author: amber stimulating coldplay fan

lol @ ARE Reptile getting gaped again as he purports to be a buff on some topic. After years of being pwned on all things Russia, he makes a foray into physics and slinks away with a bleeding hold.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31576500)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 10:59 PM
Author: citrine codepig



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Date: October 8th, 2016 2:21 PM
Author: Sick Trust Fund Coffee Pot



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Date: October 6th, 2016 10:59 PM
Author: startled gaped stag film

You arent understanding. The simulation duders believe that the advanced intelligence would be modeling their own universe because otherwise there's no point. If we are a model of their universe we cant be a perfect model because there arent enough particles in their universe to make said model. If we are an imperfect model then we are a running buffer overflow and the end result is blue screen of death -- simulation crash.

"you can also just set a stop time to the simulation so it doesn't ever wind up with buffer allocation errors due to lack of memory, and if your computer is big enough you can simulate for a long, long time"

Or you could just not have an expanding universe introducing a buffering error. The nature of the universe is the problem. The modelers built in a buffer overflow. They are shit programmers or this isnt a simulation.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31576711)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 11:02 PM
Author: citrine codepig

Nope on several levels. Go back and read what pepsi said about algorithms

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31576748)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 11:13 PM
Author: startled gaped stag film

Holevo's theory is about observing and ultimately accounting for modeled quantum states and has nothing to do with Turing machines and P NP. Any simulation of the universe has to account for the quantum states of every sub atomic particle and there arent enough particles in creation to do it. Its book keeping and not calculating. Not enough memory.



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31576841)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 11:18 PM
Author: citrine codepig

You don't need the whole universe. Just a proportionately small patch will do.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31576872)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 11:19 PM
Author: citrine codepig

And there are different sizes amid the infinities.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31576879)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 11:20 PM
Author: startled gaped stag film

Except its an expanding universe so buffer fucking overflow. The modelers introduced a giant obvious error. So the conclusion is -- our creators are incompetents or its not a simulation. You can either believe God made a mistake a halfway decent programmer would never make or you can conclude this isnt a simulation.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31576884)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 11:26 PM
Author: citrine codepig

Algorithms and exponential time bro

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31576918)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 11:29 PM
Author: startled gaped stag film

Again, buffer fucking overflow. The "they can stop the simulation before it crashes" or "the crash will take a long time to happen" doesnt explain why a being capable of creating such a complex simulation would introduce such an obvious error in the first place. The "imperfect simulation" argument is saying "if this is a simulation your god is a fucking retard."

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31576942)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 11:38 PM
Author: citrine codepig

That may be the best that reality can offer. And it certain brought us about, didn't it.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31577017)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 11:43 PM
Author: carmine rebellious azn crackhouse



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31577047)



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Date: October 7th, 2016 12:00 AM
Author: citrine codepig

We are the only we we know of though. Why bring aliens into it if we are thinking as clearly as possible?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31577161)



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Date: October 7th, 2016 12:48 AM
Author: carmine rebellious azn crackhouse



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31577382)



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Date: October 7th, 2016 12:09 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Institution

Maybe the aliens are super high IQ and advanced and our world is a simulation for their toddlers to play with?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31577195)



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Date: October 7th, 2016 1:17 AM
Author: Salmon internet-worthy temple

"Hey Bob"

"Yeah Jimmy?"

"Look at this, H-437 is +71 years from first use of atomic weapons and still no nuclear war."

"Wow that's wild! Activate the demagogue billionaire scenario and see how many more years it runs."

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31577454)



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Date: October 7th, 2016 9:18 AM
Author: citrine codepig

lol

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31578145)



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Date: October 8th, 2016 2:22 PM
Author: Sick Trust Fund Coffee Pot

180000

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31588821)



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Date: July 25th, 2017 11:28 PM
Author: beta ratface becky



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#33856042)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 11:41 PM
Author: Dashing sex offender

I think that P ?= NP is separate from quantum parallelism. Even if P = NP (which seems unlikely) it seems like some quantum simulation problems are destined to live not only outside of P-NP-PSPACE but in EXPSPACE.

Besides, our current knowledge of quantum systems is that amplitudes can be arbitrary complex numbers, which theoretically have infinite information capacity (although it is impossible to extract or even use more than a finite amount). Any digital representation would be limited in precision and we've come nowhere close to detecting a resolution limit.

What we don't know is why wavefunctions collapse. There is an appearance that "something" happens that causes an exponentially complex (in the number of components) system to collapse into a simpler system that behaves classically. "Simulation" (i.e. nature's enclosing computer throws information away) is one explanation but far from mainstream. I don't know of any mainstream scientist who takes it seriously.

Putting probabilities on "We live in a simulation" is ridiculous. It's like putting probabilities on God. Furthermore, it's unclear what "a simulation" is or how we would break out of it.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31577043)



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Date: October 7th, 2016 12:15 AM
Author: startled gaped stag film

Bingo. The problem with simulation theories isnt algorithm effeciency or exponential time but very basic shit like is it possible to store this much shit in memory and we find -- it isnt because in whatever universe you are there arent enough subatomic particles in existence to model every other subatomic particle. This is basic logic and fairly straightforward math. If you cant possibly have enough memory your simulation isnt perfect. If your simulation isnt perfect you have a big fucking problem with buffer overflows.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31577234)



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Date: October 7th, 2016 9:58 PM
Author: titillating faggot firefighter chapel

hi, this subthread is really interesting.

but i don't really get why you can say there is any logical or mathematical argument available in our own universe that has any bearing on whatever universe the simulation is being run. It seems you are focusing on a scenario where the simulation is being run in a similar universe to our's with the same kinds of particles and basic truths (and math and logic). Instead it could be Plato's Caves of an order of magnitude beyond anything we could possibly imagine.

In fact, the basic idea of existence is a nutso inquiry because whatever is outside of the universe (or however you want to describe the context of it existing vs. not existing) is a very strange place I'm sure.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31584064)



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Date: October 7th, 2016 1:10 AM
Author: carmine rebellious azn crackhouse



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31577441)



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Date: December 7th, 2016 5:02 AM
Author: Trip Den

lol would like to see what this said

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#32075771)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 9:03 PM
Author: fuchsia curious whorehouse

hundreds of sim glitches have been exposed on this site

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31575773)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 9:37 PM
Author: flesh diverse sanctuary old irish cottage



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31575993)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 9:48 PM
Author: Purple Rehab



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31576070)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 11:38 PM
Author: Brilliant alpha range



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31577012)



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Date: October 7th, 2016 10:21 AM
Author: Motley out-of-control mexican



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31578581)



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Date: October 8th, 2016 10:36 AM
Author: Crusty Garnet Goyim



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31587276)



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Date: October 8th, 2016 2:23 PM
Author: slap-happy menage



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31588830)



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Date: October 21st, 2016 2:49 PM
Author: Unhinged grizzly patrolman nursing home



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31698295)



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Date: July 25th, 2017 11:19 PM
Author: Crusty Garnet Goyim



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#33855974)



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Date: January 29th, 2018 2:29 PM
Author: frozen dog poop gaming laptop



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#35269161)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 9:36 PM
Author: flesh diverse sanctuary old irish cottage

"If its an imperfect simulation and the universe really is expanding to infinity"

It's like one of those games where you're run into a wall if you get too far off the path.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31575991)



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Date: October 12th, 2016 10:35 AM
Author: Amethyst Corner

You would only need to model our immediate solar system and add a script for light patterns to respond to long range telescopes/etc. This would only take an infinitesimal portion of the power it would take to model the entire universe.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31623141)



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Date: October 12th, 2016 10:43 AM
Author: citrine codepig



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31623186)



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Date: December 7th, 2016 4:59 AM
Author: Charcoal love of her life

tyft

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#32075765)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 8:38 PM
Author: magenta swashbuckling set nowag

"In just 40 years we went from pong to iPhones therefore there is a 1 in a billion chance we are not living in a simulation. Where is the flaw in that argument!!?"

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31575606)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 8:39 PM
Author: provocative senate

slippery slope, bro

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31575610)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 8:41 PM
Author: Startling Flushed University Famous Landscape Painting



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31575624)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 8:39 PM
Author: appetizing bipolar legend

cr. there was more tech progress from 1800-1860 than from 1950-2010. singularity is fraud&lies

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31575613)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 9:39 PM
Author: Stubborn Opaque Place Of Business Native



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31576018)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 10:02 PM
Author: Sapphire razzmatazz public bath dragon

dumb argument

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31576208)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 8:40 PM
Author: Coiffed Half-breed

This can't be real... time to short Tesla?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31575618)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 8:55 PM
Author: black embarrassed to the bone lettuce



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31575716)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 8:57 PM
Author: fuchsia curious whorehouse

holy shit i thought this was an evan39 fake article. I looked at username then actually clicked link. not flame

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31575740)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 8:58 PM
Author: Clear legal warrant base

the underrated part of that Sam Altman profile was how Altman was so obsessed while working on his shitty location app that he CAUGHT FUCKING SCURVY

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31575750)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 8:59 PM
Author: provocative senate

You don't catch scurvy bro. You DON'T catch vitamin C.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31575758)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 11:35 PM
Author: Dashing sex offender

Silicon Valley is great at marketing but everything those fuckers build is of low quality.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31576991)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 9:02 PM
Author: Irradiated foreskin

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(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31575771)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 9:04 PM
Author: fuchsia curious whorehouse

eureka, faggot

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31575787)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 9:24 PM
Author: Mahogany office

cr Archimedes in the bathtub

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31575902)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 9:22 PM
Author: Electric kitty cat

lol at the low IQ comments

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31575890)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 10:03 PM
Author: Seedy Mood

Cr but fortunately you can read slightly higher IQ comments if you click on the Independent link.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31576213)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 10:58 PM
Author: laughsome clown space



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31576705)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 10:04 PM
Author: lascivious bat-shit-crazy market immigrant

As I pointed out earlier the argument is nonsensical. Why? Suppose we are living in a simulation. Then any supposition that we might have that we are living in a simulation cannot be relied upon (since we are living in a simulation). Hence we cannot know that we are living in a simulation.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31576224)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 10:05 PM
Author: Seedy Mood

How does the fact that we are living in a simulation make any supposition that we are living in a simulation inherently unreliable?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31576239)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 10:28 PM
Author: lascivious bat-shit-crazy market immigrant

Q.E.D. brah

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31576414)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 10:30 PM
Author: Seedy Mood

u wish

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31576433)



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Date: October 7th, 2016 10:01 PM
Author: titillating faggot firefighter chapel

hold on. If God himself descends, stops time and tells you telepathically you are living in a simulation, you contend the argument is nonsensical?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31584098)



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Date: April 1st, 2020 9:47 AM
Author: Twisted Hall Elastic Band

cr

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#39914755)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 9:42 PM
Author: citrine codepig

What is consciousness? There is nothing there. Momentary fold of smoke. How to "break out"?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31576031)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 10:08 PM
Author: nyuug (Swedish Schoolgirl K-Pop Cover Band "Limitless" WGWAG)

ITT: philo shitheads

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31576262)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 10:52 PM
Author: Wine mad cow disease

O Lord, please bring about a fortuitous stack overflow!

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31576630)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 10:57 PM
Author: citrine codepig



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31576693)



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Date: October 8th, 2016 6:31 PM
Author: galvanic indecent parlor giraffe

180

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31591127)



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Date: February 24th, 2017 2:59 PM
Author: citrine codepig



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#32692337)



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Date: February 24th, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: Talented Location Fat Ankles



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#32692937)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 10:59 PM
Author: Sick Trust Fund Coffee Pot

Just shows how dumb tech frauds actually are

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31576713)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 11:34 PM
Author: Dashing sex offender

MFCR. And when an actual smart person gets involved, he or she is treated like shit. See: pensive.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31576985)



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Date: October 7th, 2016 12:22 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac Sinister Potus Station

hi pensive

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31577265)



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Date: October 7th, 2016 1:33 AM
Author: pale cowardly area

hey NOT PENSIVE do u know much about erlang

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31577495)



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Date: October 7th, 2016 2:14 AM
Author: Sick Trust Fund Coffee Pot

cq

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31577581)



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Date: October 7th, 2016 1:52 AM
Author: nyuug (Swedish Schoolgirl K-Pop Cover Band "Limitless" WGWAG)

sup Pensive.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31577546)



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Date: October 7th, 2016 10:28 AM
Author: lascivious bat-shit-crazy market immigrant

lmao

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31578617)



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Date: October 8th, 2016 2:09 PM
Author: contagious french chef step-uncle's house

shut up Pensive

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31588733)



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Date: October 8th, 2016 4:05 PM
Author: Sick Trust Fund Coffee Pot

(pensive)

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31589702)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 11:41 PM
Author: Autistic claret rigpig

why is someone who achieved the high score in a video game trying to get out of it? billionaires literally "clocked" irl and can have anything they want

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31577037)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 11:44 PM
Author: Dashing sex offender

They're trying to make themselves and their projects seem more interesting than they actually are.

Tech billionaires aren't satisfied with being rich. They're pissed off that they're still ridiculed and disliked and so they push themselves into politics and economics and have even invented a bizarro religion (see: Singularity). Using their "anointed smart person" status to make ridiculous claims like "we almost certainly live in a simulation" when there is no evidence to support them is a way of getting non-scientific journalists to write about them.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31577054)



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Date: October 6th, 2016 11:45 PM
Author: citrine codepig

They die here. Doncha know.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31577062)



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Date: October 7th, 2016 12:06 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Institution

They want to unlock the eternal youth mod

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31577186)



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Date: February 24th, 2017 4:44 PM
Author: cheese-eating comical box office

Gotta find the MAZE

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#32693138)



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Date: October 7th, 2016 1:32 AM
Author: Sooty adventurous useless brakes

if we are, in fact, in a simulation, how can these idiots use observations from within the simulation to surmise that any "real" world would develop similarly such that they'd be capable of running a simulation?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31577493)



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Date: October 8th, 2016 2:11 PM
Author: Sick Trust Fund Coffee Pot

they're studying sim glitches. Like Deja Vu etc.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31588743)



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Date: October 8th, 2016 2:21 PM
Author: Sooty adventurous useless brakes

just watching the matrix over and over again?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31588814)



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Date: October 7th, 2016 2:19 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Institution

If we are in fact in an alien simulation can't they just alter a few lines of code and eliminate the very concept from our minds?

Either we're not in a simulation or our alien overlords don't care that we can conceive of it because we can't do anything about it.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31577589)



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Date: October 7th, 2016 9:09 PM
Author: glittery school multi-billionaire

lol, fucking scientists even scamming tech billionaires

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31583526)



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Date: October 8th, 2016 10:38 AM
Author: Crusty Garnet Goyim



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31587287)



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Date: October 8th, 2016 2:17 PM
Author: Mind-boggling center stock car

Fantastic thread. Obviously still have some high IQ posters.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31588790)



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Date: October 8th, 2016 6:41 PM
Author: citrine codepig

Yes! We had a visitation--so cool!

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31591209)



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Date: October 12th, 2016 9:52 AM
Author: Sick Trust Fund Coffee Pot

Lol at ARE Reptile frantically repeating "BUFFER OVERFLOW" like a retard as he's gaped by a legit polymath genius

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31622884)



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Date: October 12th, 2016 10:47 AM
Author: citrine codepig



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31623206)



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Date: July 5th, 2018 8:28 PM
Author: Yapping boiling water address



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#36370737)



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Date: October 23rd, 2016 9:54 PM
Author: Stubborn Opaque Place Of Business Native



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31712297)



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Date: October 23rd, 2016 9:57 PM
Author: citrine codepig



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31712321)



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Date: October 23rd, 2016 10:41 PM
Author: Tan marvelous jew

kind of disheartening that Taco Bell deleted all of his posts itt.. sort of similar to finding ancient manuscript with text that faded away

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31712677)



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Date: October 23rd, 2016 11:11 PM
Author: Haunting multi-colored home mediation



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31712932)



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Date: November 20th, 2016 2:47 PM
Author: Sick Trust Fund Coffee Pot



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31954966)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 12:36 PM
Author: citrine codepig



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#32156237)



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Date: October 23rd, 2016 10:48 PM
Author: Misanthropic Plum Forum Trump Supporter

I'm bearish on the idea of the AI necessary to run such a simulation. I'm starting to think it's not actually possible. Which knocks the simulation odds down to 0.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#31712733)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 12:06 PM
Author: passionate pearl toaster gay wizard

(guy pontificating in a hot tub)

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#32155908)



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Date: February 24th, 2017 3:00 PM
Author: cheese-eating comical box office

These guys are crazy. You're a billionaire, why would you even WANT out?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#32692344)



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Date: February 24th, 2017 3:27 PM
Author: citrine codepig

D.E.A.T.H.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#32692519)



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Date: February 24th, 2017 4:45 PM
Author: cheese-eating comical box office

Yeah, you think immortality awaits on the other side?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#32693146)



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Date: February 24th, 2017 4:28 PM
Author: charismatic godawful hominid friendly grandma



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#32693001)



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Date: May 10th, 2017 8:32 PM
Author: Stubborn Opaque Place Of Business Native



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#33277100)



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Date: April 1st, 2020 9:34 AM
Author: peach mischievous striped hyena halford



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#39914674)



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Date: July 12th, 2020 4:56 PM
Author: appetizing bipolar legend



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#40593965)



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Date: October 6th, 2020 8:48 AM
Author: peach mischievous striped hyena halford



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#41056414)



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Date: July 7th, 2021 10:14 PM
Author: peach mischievous striped hyena halford



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3375937&forum_id=2#42747067)



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Date: July 7th, 2021 10:22 PM
Author: abusive locus new version



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Date: February 26th, 2022 10:52 AM
Author: peach mischievous striped hyena halford



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Date: February 26th, 2022 10:54 AM
Author: Wild Resort Scourge Upon The Earth



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Date: October 28th, 2022 9:22 AM
Author: peach mischievous striped hyena halford



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Date: October 28th, 2022 10:07 AM
Author: blue infuriating business firm

This was one of my favorite all-time threads. The manifested presence of a clearly extremely smart poaster ITT is what kept me coming back here for years. It is a pity he redacted his poasts.

Here is a good novel tangentially on the subject:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/23/books/anomaly-herve-le-tellier.html

The novel has drawn a sort of "cult" following, with people looking for secret codes within the final texts (no spoilers) and active discussions online.

https://www.amazon.com/Anomaly-Novel-Herv%C3%A9-Tellier/dp/1635421691



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Date: October 26th, 2023 4:44 PM
Author: peach mischievous striped hyena halford



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Date: August 12th, 2026 8:28 AM
Author: peach mischievous striped hyena halford



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