Date: August 29th, 2026 9:40 AM Author: Scarlet histrionic cuckoldry
MSM had been totally corrupted and brought to heel by this point. She would've been eviscerated if she tried. But yeah, people have forgotten that while Obama was always the favorite, he was vulnerable in 2012.
Date: August 29th, 2026 11:27 AM Author: cerebral fighting elastic band
Have to feel sorry for Hilldawg. She received more votes than Obama in the 2008 primary, and more votes than Trump in the 2016 election.
I have occasionally wondered what things would be had there been no Obama in 2008. She'd have won, for sure. Mostly the same status quo, probably, but also more tempered on the cultural war stuff the Obama administration was quietly stoking on the side, even if unintentionally. The Clintons weren't culture war people.
Yeah, must admit things would probably be better had she been president.
Her loss in 2008 also caused her to overcompensate with the youth/gays/urban types in 2016. Probably thought she could safely move Left with the BLUE WALL in place and a clown opponent like Trump. Shore up the Bernie types and cruise to victory. So she put her campaign hq in Brooklyn, staffed with youngs, gays, NGO types, etc., and never went to Wisconsin. Even old Bill knew it was a mistake at the time.
Date: August 30th, 2026 9:02 AM Author: Chocolate parlour gaping
the story about him warning her campaign about whites in the midwest and them laughing at him in 2016 is truly amazing.
also "even old bill knew this was a mistake"? the guy was an incredible politician. that's what makes it absolutely unbelievable they didn't listen to him. it's not like al gore gave them this advice. this was coming from bill fucking clinton.
Date: August 29th, 2026 11:19 PM Author: Diverse brass faggotry
I think you guys overestimate the importance of which figurehead was in charge in 2008. HRC would absolutely have let shitlibs, Soros, etc. destroy the culture.
Date: August 30th, 2026 1:24 AM Author: talented kink-friendly business firm
Soros would've done all the same shit but I think media and especially the pivotal years of the normie internet would've been much more benign. obama had this millenarian quality from his campaign that warped everything downstream from him. hillary, like every president in my lifetime except obama, had this cocky asshole quality that would've ensured that a healthy distrust of political platforms would remain an american value no matter what party you were in or all your friends were in. as in "no thanks, we know how our culture works and don't need to pave it over with a bunch of corporate-utopian nonsense weaponized by a grievance coalition."
also they would've figured out much quicker that there would be no Permanent Democratic Majority with hispanics, which would've been a good thing.
Date: August 30th, 2026 2:23 AM Author: Diverse brass faggotry
I don't get that sense at all. But similarly I don't sense that Hillary would have done anything to stop those pushing the culture war BS as long as they let her have WW3.
Date: August 30th, 2026 8:55 AM Author: abnormal kitchen
It's not really Obama as much as the apparatus around him. I think Obama is/was a solid moderate especially of course by today's standards. But one the real, serious national security threat, Marxist oligarchs saw Obama actually happen they couldn't believe it and were off to the races. That is the consequence we've been living through.