Date: September 4th, 2026 6:17 PM Author: fighting cordovan meetinghouse
oing. In my state and circuit they're specifically told that "under no circumstances" are they to reveal their numeric division to the court.
When there're out a super-long time everyone starts speculating based on body language, but it sounds here like the foreman just ratted out the holdout?
Why did the defense even put a "6 hours a day" gamer who brought up crypto and MMA in voir dire on the jury?
Date: September 4th, 2026 6:26 PM Author: histrionic brunch
CA crim appeals guy here. Happens in CA all the time. I've seen a bunch of times where the judge says "tell me the vote count, but dont tell me what the votes are / which way it is"
It seems highly relevant to the judge's determination if more deliberations would be helpful, etc.
Date: September 4th, 2026 6:56 PM Author: fighting cordovan meetinghouse
Interesting. I'm pretty sure everywhere federally they just ask "would more time be productive"? (Which, given that they've already come back 3 times and said they're hung and got Allen charged back to their little cave each time, of course they say no.)