Date: August 20th, 2026 11:27 AM Author: Fucking Fuckface
Do we have to stop sponsoring Zionist terrorism and allowing them to threaten nuclear war?
Do we have to attack Israel if it engages in active violence that destabilizes the region? Do we have to attack them if they funnel money to terrorist organizations? If not, return to my initial question that started this sub
Date: August 20th, 2026 12:33 PM Author: Vibrant pontificating pistol
You guys are way too fucking groyped or something. We fucking pay Israel to do that shit. We want that.
I'd also add it's amazing how poorly Israel has done. They took months to secure an area roughly the size of a small neighborhood against a severely depleted opponent.
Date: August 20th, 2026 12:51 PM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt)
No "WE" don't, that's the whole point. Polling on this neocon shit is in the toilet. Trump won because he campaigned on not getting involved in this shit and he's lost much of his support for going back on it. Clearly YOU still want it but that doesn't change the reality that you're in the minority.
Date: August 20th, 2026 1:00 PM Author: Vibrant pontificating pistol
I don't fall for the politics. I've stated numerous times I am not debating the merit of the policy only what I observe. Basically that this is an energy grab to bring global markets fully back under US control. We had too many loose ends and trump II has been given the greenlight to consolidate control. We hit Venezuela, Nigeria and opened up targets in Russia. All the while US domestic energy is booming. Ultimately this is part of a high order umbrella policy to address global population decline through future AI development and ensuring that happens under US control...in a nutshell.
I've said it sounds far too much like Project for a New American century which ended in disaster. With that said, it's not like Iran is at all innocent. I have little sympathy for them.
Date: August 20th, 2026 3:48 PM Author: Vibrant pontificating pistol
I guess it's better for the US to control the trajectory of AI and energy the that feeds it in the future. But that seems foregone. I also think China is a bullshit boogeyman, and just the latest in a long history of pretexts. So this is all based on a fabrication. My primary concerns in life are centered on my wife's big tits and to a lesser extent our children.
Date: August 20th, 2026 1:02 PM Author: heady philosopher-king
no fucking goy with a brain wants any of that jewish ass bullshit.
all this "islam is a threat, they hate our freedoms" nonsense is early 00s kikeslop. we aren't buying it anymore. fuck the middle east, sure, but i 100% understand why iran is doing what it's doing, and what it's doing is pushing our shit in and destroying trump's presidency, which he deserves for selling out to world jewry. fuck him and fuck you.
Date: August 20th, 2026 1:57 PM Author: Fucking Fuckface
According to you, we pay for terrorism/aggression that involves attacking Iran's proxies and Iran itself, and you're casting aspersions on that basis for my point about Iran responding to aggressive acts? Wow
Date: August 20th, 2026 1:03 PM Author: heady philosopher-king
this is exactly what a jew would say. "oh yes, jews are a really big problem we need to deal with. but the muslims first! we will turn to the jews...uh, later. soon."
Date: August 20th, 2026 1:59 PM Author: Fucking Fuckface
Attacking us where? Attacking us how? Stack up how much we've been attacked and how much money has been paid for those operations. Measure it against how much we have attacked and how much money we funnel into attacks, and compare.
Date: August 20th, 2026 12:09 PM Author: Vibrant pontificating pistol
Well I don't think the attack is as preemptive as you say. If you keep needling the bully and he body slams you, was that a preemptive strike? So yeah that is relevant. And my overall point is, aside from the policy merits of attacking Iran, you should have little sympathy for them. They are not led by good people. If you're unaware of their decades long operation to kill American troops I don't know what to say. Get more informed? Or not I don't care.
Date: August 20th, 2026 12:28 PM Author: Vibrant pontificating pistol
The Pentagon’s Declassified Iraq War Casualty CountIn 2019, the U.S. Department of Defense declassified intelligence reports tracking the weapons used against U.S. troops during the Iraq War (2003–2011).The Toll: The Pentagon officially concluded that Iran-backed militias were responsible for the deaths of at least 603 to 608 American service members.The Proportion: This accounted for roughly 17 percent of all U.S. military fatalities in Iraq during that timeframe.The Mechanism: The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) Quds Force smuggled highly lethal Explosively Formed Penetrators (EFPs) across the border. These sophisticated, Iranian-manufactured roadside bombs were specifically designed to punch through the heavy armor of U.S. military vehicles, causing catastrophic injuries and deaths.
There's lots more...but you get the point. That asshole trump bombed back in his first time lists the Americans he killed as part of his cv.
Date: August 20th, 2026 12:52 PM Author: Vibrant pontificating pistol
Ok their clear proxies. Is your take that they have not in fact directly facilitated the deaths of hundreds of Americans and the US reports are fabricated of not to be trusted? They've been killing Americans since the 1980s. Death to America is just a catchy jingle?
Date: August 20th, 2026 1:03 PM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt)
I think they probably have but we don't have enough evidence to justify a war. I think if we had solid evidence it would be made explicit and that the intelligence community can't be trusted to not embellish the count when they use broad terms like "Iran backed" when they've embellished or just been flat out wrong, which seems motivated by wanting the US to be more active there.
But most importantly, I sympathize with them for not wanting a foreign imperial power to control their region and I respect their right to self-goverance. And while I'll never condone the death of an American, I think the best way to ensure more of our people aren't killed there is to stop sending them over there to fuck with them.
Date: August 20th, 2026 2:04 PM Author: Fucking Fuckface
Holy shit! 600 dead bodies on foreign soil thousands of miles away from their own country so we can project military force! That calls for all out preemptive war. Wait, Iran hasn't been blasting us with everything they have when by your reasoning they would be fully justified to do so? Hmm, almost makes us seem like the bully. Strange
Date: August 20th, 2026 5:50 PM Author: Fucking Fuckface
No, I'm realist. And in reality, if we think a 600 combatant and combat-adjacent kill count is reason to target 90 million+ people with sanctions, spend hundreds of billions of dollars to fight and kill people, and heavily destabilize a region, then you're saying that Iran should absolutely nuke us, hit is with bio weapons, or do anything else they possibly could to cause mass casualty events
Or...well...you don't live in reality and think other countries shouldn't care even 1% about their losses as you think we should care about ours
Date: August 20th, 2026 7:53 PM Author: Vibrant pontificating pistol
You're not exactly realpolitik. This is adversarial and about resource extraction and control. You and I have enjoyed the benefits of this arrangement our entire lives. I'm not saying that it's right or even ultimately worth the trade offs (most benefits have accrued to the top cohorts of our society), but it's also foolish to think another great power wouldn't have filled the void. In the context of human conflict the Iranian bombing is pretty sterile.
Date: August 20th, 2026 9:17 PM Author: Fucking Fuckface
That's why I told you to fuck off if you're going to say whatever self-inconsistent bullshit you want to say to explain this away as anything other than "because we want to and think we can." No need to talk about dead Americans. No need to talk about how bad Iran is. It's just naked aggression to secure resources we want so we can thrive
In an honest conversation, we could figure out if we actually do benefit from bleeding out running an empire that may or may not bring enough benefits to offset the harm it causes to us through, for example, misallocation of trillions to empire instead of the homeland. But where you've already said a string of internally inconsistent bullshit, you reveal yourself and give away the game
Date: August 20th, 2026 5:58 PM Author: Fucking Fuckface
You say that like it's a bad thing. Surely you don't mean it's bad though, because that's exactly what we've been doing around the world to a degree the entire rest of the world combined couldn't match (minus only Israel)
Date: August 20th, 2026 9:20 PM Author: Fucking Fuckface
If you didn't add "neighbors," I would have genuinely been confused about who you're referring to. What with our sudden love of blowing up ships in international waters and all
Date: August 20th, 2026 11:29 AM Author: Smoky mind-boggling corner
they are winning so bad its laughable to pretend anything trump retard does matters, its all desperation. iran can just wait this one out, their leverage grows by the day. trump is a dumb birdshit who didnt think this thru
Date: August 20th, 2026 11:32 AM Author: hyperventilating gay rigor
Yes that's why they have no navy anymore, Great Depression economic conditions massive unrest and their neighbors are cutting off trade with them, because they're winning
Date: August 20th, 2026 1:05 PM Author: heady philosopher-king
it's hilarious to see how badly he got tricked by kikes. the kikes even tried the same exact thing with the last 3 or so presidents, and they were all like "nah, lol fuck that" but dumbfuck trump fell for it. he is an absolute idiot.
Date: August 20th, 2026 1:13 PM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt)
But Bibi just looks like a guy you should trust! Whenever I see a Jewish ghoul rubbing his hands, I think "This guy probably is looking out for my best interest!"
Date: August 20th, 2026 1:15 PM Author: heady philosopher-king
i mean i am not at all surprised he trusted a guy who always has a smirk on his face. not at all. i mean, who wouldn't think that guy is a straight shooter?
Date: August 20th, 2026 1:20 PM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt)
And just because he's the most prominent Israeli conservative who has advocated for endless war his entire career doesn't necessarily mean he got us into this one for that reason.