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Jag can we get an update on the situation w cock hungry milf who told her husban

That you're actually her gay confidant
controlling a virtual character on a computer
  10/19/24
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ebony exhilarant internal respiration orchestra pit
  10/19/24
i nutted in her over the weekend and she took plan b without...
jag
  10/23/24
180
Unhinged telephone plaza
  10/23/24
thought you two were gonna lay low
Diverse doctorate
  10/23/24
yeah we said we would cool off but never did cucky remains ...
jag
  10/23/24
what's the status emotionally? are you and hurt planning on ...
gunneratttt
  10/23/24
...
jag
  10/23/24
"her mom pretended to be in the hospital with a heart a...
ebony exhilarant internal respiration orchestra pit
  10/23/24
yeah, when i saw this, my first thought was "jag's love...
gunneratttt
  10/23/24
*dances out of thread*
ebony exhilarant internal respiration orchestra pit
  10/23/24
well, the good news is, if this all does come crashing down,...
gunneratttt
  10/23/24
HAHAHAHAHAH you're funny.
ebony exhilarant internal respiration orchestra pit
  10/23/24
i mean, on the off-chance jag's lover won't take responsibil...
gunneratttt
  10/23/24
how does it benefit me for her to take responsibility she ...
jag
  10/23/24
this has nothing to do with you. i'm riffing on the fact tha...
gunneratttt
  10/23/24
you have an excellent grasp of women's social dynamics
soul-stirring resort fortuitous meteor
  10/24/24
if the unthinkable happens and jag's lover is completely unr...
gunneratttt
  10/24/24
...
soul-stirring resort fortuitous meteor
  10/24/24
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fuchsia cheese-eating sandwich lodge
  10/24/24
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soul-stirring resort fortuitous meteor
  10/24/24
yes this is how women work
soul-stirring resort fortuitous meteor
  10/24/24
seems like this is terminal. i advise you to get out but i k...
gunneratttt
  10/23/24
Let me give you a protip: A relationship with a woman who is...
Nubile state
  10/23/24
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ebony exhilarant internal respiration orchestra pit
  10/23/24
you're wrong. our indian md who tells her he loves her befor...
gunneratttt
  10/23/24
harsh but fair jag feel free to share more pics in due cour...
Thriller piazza azn
  10/23/24
i think the days of me getting pics are over i don't want h...
jag
  10/23/24
...
charcoal international law enforcement agency
  10/23/24
...
Hateful dark electric furnace theater
  10/24/24
Tbh this isn't actually true. There are lots of instances of...
controlling a virtual character on a computer
  10/24/24
(guy whose "wife" fucks BBC **without** his knowle...
Nubile state
  10/24/24
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Cobalt free-loading step-uncle's house gunner
  10/24/24
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controlling a virtual character on a computer
  03/31/26
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Haunting boistinker
  10/24/24
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fuchsia cheese-eating sandwich lodge
  10/24/24
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spruce crackhouse wagecucks
  10/23/24
she was loyal for 22 years.. someone as hot as her could hav...
jag
  10/23/24
...
spruce crackhouse wagecucks
  10/23/24
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charcoal international law enforcement agency
  10/24/24
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Big tattoo
  10/24/24
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fuchsia cheese-eating sandwich lodge
  10/24/24
you seem unintelligent
my dog can log into xo more often than I can
  10/24/24
Lmfao 180 Keep enjoying this as long as it lasts. Gonna ...
controlling a virtual character on a computer
  10/23/24
do you every worry that you're a piece of shit and will even...
slimy area deer antler
  10/23/24
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ebony exhilarant internal respiration orchestra pit
  10/23/24
if this isn't flame, the whole "i'm gay!" defense ...
gunneratttt
  10/23/24
decent likelyhood its flame, not once has he said "not ...
charcoal international law enforcement agency
  10/23/24
XO is just bored middle aged bald lawyers egging on people t...
Supple emerald indian lodge associate
  10/24/24
if i found out a surgeon was fucking my wife i'd break his f...
Supple emerald indian lodge associate
  10/24/24
if i found out i got cucked by an indian i'd just kill mysel...
gunneratttt
  10/24/24
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Big tattoo
  10/24/24
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Multi-colored obsidian chapel
  10/24/24
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fuchsia cheese-eating sandwich lodge
  10/24/24
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ebony exhilarant internal respiration orchestra pit
  10/24/24
This is highly credited, but you could also: - gather evide...
soul-stirring resort fortuitous meteor
  10/24/24
No LFOD is right here It takes 15 years minimum to become a...
fuchsia cheese-eating sandwich lodge
  10/24/24
Irl lol Shut up you scrawny Ukie kike Always the midge...
controlling a virtual character on a computer
  10/24/24
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Cobalt free-loading step-uncle's house gunner
  10/24/24
they can't help but see themselves as the little cuck
Unhinged telephone plaza
  10/24/24
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controlling a virtual character on a computer
  03/31/26
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fuchsia cheese-eating sandwich lodge
  10/24/24
i dunno why you guys all put yourself in cucky's shoes
jag
  10/24/24
Cr they should imagine themselves as the one under the 37 yo...
Olive wild sound barrier
  10/24/24
i have 5.9% body fat if you believe the machines at the gym
jag
  10/24/24
Update?
fuchsia cheese-eating sandwich lodge
  03/31/26
sorry i thought people got bored of this it's still going o...
jag
  07/31/26
Any ass play?
Vermilion Low-t Tanning Salon Ceo
  07/31/26
cq
Titillating heaven stock car
  07/31/26
i grounder my tongue into the old one's butthold all the tim...
jag
  07/31/26
*Victorian era explorer coming upon this poast, horses reari...
180 elastic band gas station
  07/31/26
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controlling a virtual character on a computer
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vivacious people who are hurt
  07/31/26
180
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  07/31/26


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Date: October 19th, 2024 12:59 PM
Author: controlling a virtual character on a computer

That you're actually her gay confidant

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48215170)



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Date: October 19th, 2024 12:59 PM
Author: ebony exhilarant internal respiration orchestra pit



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48215171)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 7:33 PM
Author: jag

i nutted in her over the weekend and she took plan b without telling me.. so i came in her again yesterday

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48232448)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 7:34 PM
Author: Unhinged telephone plaza

180

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48232456)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 7:37 PM
Author: Diverse doctorate

thought you two were gonna lay low

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48232462)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 7:41 PM
Author: jag

yeah we said we would cool off but never did

cucky remains suspicious but we don't contact or see each other outside work anymore. except when she calls me from random landlines

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48232483)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 7:44 PM
Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt)

what's the status emotionally? are you and hurt planning on eloping? are you hoping that will happen? where are you at on the odds of "this is going to end in disaster" versus "this is gonna be a awesome forever"?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48232494)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 7:56 PM
Author: jag



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48232549)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:05 PM
Author: ebony exhilarant internal respiration orchestra pit

"her mom pretended to be in the hospital with a heart attack and her dad told her "look what you're doing to your mother". it was all made up"



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48232593)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:08 PM
Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt)

yeah, when i saw this, my first thought was "jag's lover is probably so stable and demure because her mom's dramatic attention-seeking meltdowns taught her how *not* to be"

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48232605)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:13 PM
Author: ebony exhilarant internal respiration orchestra pit

*dances out of thread*

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48232619)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:14 PM
Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt)

well, the good news is, if this all does come crashing down, jag's lover will learn a valuable lesson in loyalty and take full accountability for her actions.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48232623)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:15 PM
Author: ebony exhilarant internal respiration orchestra pit

HAHAHAHAHAH

you're funny.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48232626)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:20 PM
Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt)

i mean, on the off-chance jag's lover won't take responsibility, surely she has surrounded herself with female friends who will logically and firmly confront her with the facts. at that point she will have no choice but to calm down and accept fault.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48232642)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:38 PM
Author: jag

how does it benefit me for her to take responsibility

she says she wants a divorce regardless of what happens between us. i at least convinced her to bide her time until this blows over and she's had time to think. if she's insistent on this, i'd rather she leave on her own terms. bringing infidelity to light will just hurt a bunch of innocent parties

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48232721)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:44 PM
Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt)

this has nothing to do with you. i'm riffing on the fact that if (when) this blows up, she will inevitably cast herself as the victim and refuse to take real accountability.

she might say "i know it was fucked up and it was wrong" but it will shortly be followed with "but i was in such a loveless marriage for so long where my emotional and physical needs were ignored for years..."

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48232755)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 11:58 AM
Author: soul-stirring resort fortuitous meteor

you have an excellent grasp of women's social dynamics

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48234960)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 12:02 PM
Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt)

if the unthinkable happens and jag's lover is completely unreceptive to reason and logic, the worst case scenario is that they'll get a divorce, and the husband will be rid of her. because jag's lover is solely at fault, emotionally unhinged, and refuses to take accountability, and the hubby is completely blameless, a court would surely divide their assets and determine custody in favor of the innocent husband.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48234965)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 3:44 PM
Author: soul-stirring resort fortuitous meteor



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48235850)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:20 PM
Author: fuchsia cheese-eating sandwich lodge



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48236316)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 11:58 AM
Author: soul-stirring resort fortuitous meteor



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48234957)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 11:58 AM
Author: soul-stirring resort fortuitous meteor

yes this is how women work

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48234955)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:10 PM
Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt)

seems like this is terminal. i advise you to get out but i know you won't (and don't judge you + have enthusiastically ran into a trainwreck too).

99.99% chance that ends is a blaze of glory. hope it happens around MPM!

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48232611)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:15 PM
Author: Nubile state

Let me give you a protip: A relationship with a woman who is unfaithful in her marriage will never work out. She will fuck someone else besides you and will be a shit wife. Setting aside the morality of it, if you want to fuck her, fuck her, but stop thinking with your dick and saying that you "love her" you fucking faggot. hth

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48232628)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:16 PM
Author: ebony exhilarant internal respiration orchestra pit



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48232632)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:21 PM
Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt)

you're wrong. our indian md who tells her he loves her before she returns to her marital bed (nbd, she told jag it's dead) will surely have the firm hand and discipline to fix this misguided woman.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48232648)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:23 PM
Author: Thriller piazza azn

harsh but fair

jag feel free to share more pics in due course - every single man wants to fuck the shit out of a coworker or all of them, and you’re living the dream

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48232654)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:34 PM
Author: jag

i think the days of me getting pics are over

i don't want her to contact me at all, she's proven that she can't handle discretion

but she just messaged me on instagram like a retarded slimepit. she'll delete it immediately but she's asking for trouble

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48232694)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:37 PM
Author: charcoal international law enforcement agency



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48232713)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 11:46 AM
Author: Hateful dark electric furnace theater



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48234899)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 11:49 AM
Author: controlling a virtual character on a computer

Tbh this isn't actually true. There are lots of instances of spouses leaving their total loser spouse and marrying someone else and going on to have a happy and successful second marriage

The cold hard truth is that some people are total losers, and unfortunately some non losers end up making a bad decision by marrying them. And these situations sometimes resolve by the desirable person leaving the undesirable person and finding another desirable person instead. It's really not that unusual

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48234919)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 12:25 PM
Author: Nubile state

(guy whose "wife" fucks BBC **without** his knowledge)

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48235028)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:01 PM
Author: Cobalt free-loading step-uncle's house gunner



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48236220)



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Date: March 31st, 2026 6:04 PM
Author: controlling a virtual character on a computer



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#49784315)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 1:23 PM
Author: Haunting boistinker



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48235249)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:20 PM
Author: fuchsia cheese-eating sandwich lodge



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48236319)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:38 PM
Author: spruce crackhouse wagecucks



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48232720)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:46 PM
Author: jag

she was loyal for 22 years.. someone as hot as her could have cheated a long time ago

i realize how i sound right now but i don't think a real relationship is in the cards anyway. she won't give me kids so where would we even go if we got together

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48232766)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:48 PM
Author: spruce crackhouse wagecucks



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48232775)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:11 PM
Author: charcoal international law enforcement agency



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48236276)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:22 PM
Author: Big tattoo



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48236328)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:24 PM
Author: fuchsia cheese-eating sandwich lodge



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48236345)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:07 PM
Author: my dog can log into xo more often than I can (Make Pets Safe Again)

you seem unintelligent

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48236253)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:45 PM
Author: controlling a virtual character on a computer

Lmfao 180

Keep enjoying this as long as it lasts. Gonna be one of your favorite memories in your life

Don’t listen to the faux self righteous envious fags on this board

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48232761)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:01 PM
Author: slimy area deer antler

do you every worry that you're a piece of shit and will eventually get got for this immoral behavior?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48232571)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:01 PM
Author: ebony exhilarant internal respiration orchestra pit



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48232572)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:11 PM
Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt)

if this isn't flame, the whole "i'm gay!" defense really increases the odds jag gets got. before he wasn't *directly* responsible for deceiving the husband.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48232614)



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Date: October 23rd, 2024 8:38 PM
Author: charcoal international law enforcement agency

decent likelyhood its flame, not once has he said "not flame" but, highly entertaining nonetheless

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48232722)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 12:04 PM
Author: Supple emerald indian lodge associate

XO is just bored middle aged bald lawyers egging on people to their own personal destruction now.

tasteless.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48234969)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 1:21 PM
Author: Supple emerald indian lodge associate

if i found out a surgeon was fucking my wife i'd break his fucking hands. i know i'd get off with probation and that fucker would never use a scalpel again.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48235241)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 1:35 PM
Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt)

if i found out i got cucked by an indian i'd just kill myself

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48235283)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:02 PM
Author: Big tattoo



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48236223)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:03 PM
Author: Multi-colored obsidian chapel



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48236227)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:21 PM
Author: fuchsia cheese-eating sandwich lodge



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48236321)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 1:37 PM
Author: ebony exhilarant internal respiration orchestra pit



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48235291)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 3:45 PM
Author: soul-stirring resort fortuitous meteor

This is highly credited, but you could also:

- gather evidence of cheating

- hide assets

- divorce wife

- she goes to him and fucks up his life after awhile

- turn kids against wife

- you kill him after five years

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48235852)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:22 PM
Author: fuchsia cheese-eating sandwich lodge

No LFOD is right here

It takes 15 years minimum to become a heart surgeon

Down the fucking tubes in an instant. Diabolical

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48236323)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 3:52 PM
Author: controlling a virtual character on a computer

Irl lol

Shut up you scrawny Ukie kike

Always the midgets who talk like this

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48235878)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:00 PM
Author: Cobalt free-loading step-uncle's house gunner



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48236217)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:48 PM
Author: Unhinged telephone plaza

they can't help but see themselves as the little cuck

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48236465)



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Date: March 31st, 2026 6:05 PM
Author: controlling a virtual character on a computer



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#49784317)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:21 PM
Author: fuchsia cheese-eating sandwich lodge



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48236320)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:47 PM
Author: jag

i dunno why you guys all put yourself in cucky's shoes

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48236463)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:50 PM
Author: Olive wild sound barrier

Cr they should imagine themselves as the one under the 37 yo potbellied surgical resident mmm mmm mmmm

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48236472)



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Date: October 24th, 2024 5:56 PM
Author: jag

i have 5.9% body fat if you believe the machines at the gym

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#48236504)



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Date: March 31st, 2026 6:03 PM
Author: fuchsia cheese-eating sandwich lodge

Update?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#49784309)



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Date: July 31st, 2026 1:37 PM
Author: jag

sorry i thought people got bored of this

it's still going on... i'd like to actually be with her but i don't see a way around the ex-husband and kids thing. seems like a lot of drama

i ended up getting a second work girlfriend and she feels threatened by the new one because she's 23yo

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#50037023)



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Date: July 31st, 2026 1:45 PM
Author: Vermilion Low-t Tanning Salon Ceo

Any ass play?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#50037035)



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Date: July 31st, 2026 1:47 PM
Author: Titillating heaven stock car

cq

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5614146&forum_id=2#50037039)



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Date: July 31st, 2026 1:50 PM
Author: jag

i grounder my tongue into the old one's butthold all the time. she always recoils which makes me want it even more. have never gotten a whiff of anything unpleasant

the younger one has IBS so i'm not going anywhere near that thing

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Date: July 31st, 2026 2:03 PM
Author: 180 elastic band gas station

*Victorian era explorer coming upon this poast, horses rearing and compasses going haywire*

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Date: July 31st, 2026 2:06 PM
Author: controlling a virtual character on a computer



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Date: July 31st, 2026 2:20 PM
Author: vivacious people who are hurt



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Date: July 31st, 2026 1:54 PM
Author: controlling a virtual character on a computer

180

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