Date: April 16th, 2020 2:55 PM Author: supple orchestra pit
emotionally, they can't deal with the world's uncertainty, randomness, whatever. the religion analogy is trite but accurate. at the risk of doffing my fedora, the MODELS are god, epidemiologists are the priests, and fauci is the pope. anyone who questions the religion must be stamped out because they are either evil, irrational, or stupid. the religion will keep us safe. the religion will tell us what we must do. how do we know the religion is true? what do you mean, didn't you see all those people die until the priests told us the correct rituals to prevent the models from being angry with us.
Date: April 17th, 2020 3:01 PM Author: Laughsome Brindle Tanning Salon Alpha
the two sides concretized and threw rocks at strawmen quickly.
the virus IS bad, far more communicable than the flu and insidious and appears to do far more damage, not to mention lacks a vaccine
A total lockdown was probably a reasonable position in early march, when it was hard to differentiate the US and Italy
Moving with fluid data is hard institutionally, but even as a badmo, it has become apparent that -- absent hospital overload -- the best path for olds is to be surrounded by youngs who are gaining some immunity by processing the virus.
Its hard to ask parents to experiment with their kid, but schools and colleges are probably the best places to advance herd immunity. All the lockdown efforts should be put into facilitating people who, for whatever reasons, want to opt out. Maybe they have an old at home, maybe they are still fighting cancer, whatever. Let those kids be online and those jobs wfh
Date: April 17th, 2020 3:04 PM Author: Laughsome Brindle Tanning Salon Alpha
maybe youre more prophetic than me, harmful. But I didnt want hospitals overloaded and there wasnt clear data that our own hospitals would not be stressed in the same ways that the italians were. or at least i didnt see it in february. if you did, I was blind to it and will admit that.
you could knock me the fuck out with some link or data that was accessible in Feb indicating our hospitals would not be overrun
Date: April 17th, 2020 3:06 PM Author: Zippy bawdyhouse
not only are you blind to it but you had and have no appreciation or understanding of the economic effects of total shutdown, there hasn't been a single study done anywhere worldwide afaik. your willingness to move blindly into a total shutdown scenario is shocking and the effects will last far into our grandchildren's lives
Date: April 17th, 2020 3:08 PM Author: Laughsome Brindle Tanning Salon Alpha
there were threads where fraudmos, maybe you, were hyperventilating about how they would have to literally eat dogfood in the coming great depression.
I own the influence hysteria had on me with regard to hospitals being swamped, but I doubt you sense any hysteria on your part envisioning your grandkids having to travel on donkeys with pots and pans
Date: April 17th, 2020 3:10 PM Author: Zippy bawdyhouse
the difference is my "hysteria" is totally reasonable, 8 trillion dollars printed in one month (but congrats you get a month WFH vacation, wow!!!), while yours never materialized at all. hospitals are running at 30-50% capacity everywhere other than maybe NYC.
Date: April 17th, 2020 3:12 PM Author: Laughsome Brindle Tanning Salon Alpha
so have the courage of your convictions and specify the terror you predict: you are arguing that you are *rightfully* terrified of the economic pain the march shutdown will cause. (and keep in mind, Im agreeing with you that by april things should have been opened).
So what, exactly, will four weeks of this shutdown cause, such that it will cascade down three generations?
Date: April 17th, 2020 3:21 PM Author: Zippy bawdyhouse
shutdown resulted in 22 million unemployed so far, its a question of how long and to what extent will it last even after the economy opens. no one knows what the economic effects of shutting down an economy as complex as ours with the enormous amount of debt the private and public sectors both have is, its never been tried before. this is a total unknown. but it was an unknown before the shutdown even occurred, an unknown none of the virus hysteria-mos even gave a glance to.
second is the question of the 8 trillion printed, this will end up in the form of inflation of goods and services, if you think housing, education, health care are expensive now, wait until the effects are felt, this time probably in the form of basic goods inflation i.e. $50 loaf of bread, followed by massive societal unrest. no idea on the time frame, it may be many years down the road or it could be soon, but it is coming.
but congrats on your one month off and your virus hysteria
Date: April 17th, 2020 4:21 PM Author: Laughsome Brindle Tanning Salon Alpha
Date: April 17th, 2020 3:21 PM
Author: amerifraud
second is the question of the 8 trillion printed, this will end up in the form of inflation of goods and services, if you think housing, education, health care are expensive now, wait until the effects are felt, this time probably in the form of basic goods inflation i.e. $50 loaf of bread, followed by massive societal unrest.
Date: April 17th, 2020 5:01 PM Author: flatulent therapy property
We still don’t actually know if “immunity” is achieved after someone has the virus. For all we know people continue shedding and spreading the virus even after they’ve “recovered”.
Date: April 17th, 2020 5:09 PM Author: cocky concupiscible gas station
rofl
nobody would use an RNA virus as a weapon. they mutate too fast and there's no way to ensure that your own people won't eventually contract it. mutation rate also makes it impossible to ensure that it actually behaves the way you want it to behave. so you spend all that time designing it, and within a few infection cycles few of your designed features are left.
and what sort of a retard would make a bioweapon with a virus with a 0.02% death rate among the military-age population?
also the genome is published and shows no sign of bioengineering
and the research lab published tons of papers on their experiments with this coronavirus. that would be retarded to do if it were a bioweapons lab.
Date: April 17th, 2020 4:50 PM Author: Wine heady lay
Yes, they should do that as much as possible.
But do you understand how logistically impossible this is to do on a permanent (or even just semi-permanent) basis? They still need to leave their homes for basics like food and medical care
Date: April 17th, 2020 4:53 PM Author: Nubile immigrant resort
Honestly just shut the fuck up. We listened to you and destroyed the economy for no reason. Your credibility is shot. You may well be a Chicom just stirring up shit. Right now we need to focus on cleaning up your mess
Date: April 17th, 2020 4:40 PM Author: motley lavender trailer park masturbator
LJL at trying to legally force people to wear fucking masks in public.
JFC. Is this America or North fucking Korea?
I’m a healthy 40 y/o with no pre-existing conditions. If you can’t handle encountering healthy people without masks, then sequester yourself. Don’t force your hysterical, draconian measures on everyone else.