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App dating sounds horrifying

Reading the tinder reddit makes it seem even worse
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would not be opposed to literally banning it in its current ...
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we need a millennial ross douthat type to start pushing this
infuriating senate mother
  07/18/19
it 100% should be banned by law
gamers rise up
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I found it to be a thoroughly enjoyable and lighthearted exp...
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It used to be great 5 years ago. Girls were enthusiastic to...
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Seems accurate.
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(guy who thinks dating some degenerate app slut for 9 months...
crimson bipolar associate
  07/18/19
It's both wonderful and terrible.
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  07/18/19
App dating should be for back burner chicks. You meet, you ...
disrespectful bright chad
  07/18/19
Most relationships are now through apps.
Dun Spot
  07/18/19
Most people are 100 IQ... What's your point?
disrespectful bright chad
  07/18/19
Opposite, actually. I made it very clear what I was looking ...
Carnelian nighttime locale
  07/18/19
Which app, what did you say to make it clear what you were l...
useless autistic cuckold set
  07/18/19
OKC. Hard to go into much detail without sharing outable inf...
Carnelian nighttime locale
  07/18/19
interesting... the family angle. sounds like a great way to...
useless autistic cuckold set
  07/18/19
FOBs, actually. Which is what I prefer since american women ...
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  07/18/19
lol'ed.
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What kind of FOBs are we talking about? How fobbish?
Yellow floppy laser beams
  07/18/19
It's not like I have a spreadsheet, but off the top of my he...
Carnelian nighttime locale
  07/18/19
Honestly, this is the healthy way to do it but it has a majo...
Trip Magenta Theater Ceo
  07/18/19
You should always be prepared to accept rejection. However, ...
Carnelian nighttime locale
  07/18/19
I always get rejected by the ones I want for relationships t...
Trip Magenta Theater Ceo
  07/18/19
Your life consists of working and playing video games. You ...
disrespectful bright chad
  07/18/19
it's not a great mystery. you have a shitty autistic person...
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I know I have some limitations to work around but you seem f...
Trip Magenta Theater Ceo
  07/18/19
All women want to be flattered and feel pretty. It's importa...
Yellow floppy laser beams
  07/18/19
read back over what you just wrote. it's advice you would t...
laughsome bearded stag film
  07/18/19
What do you think is running through a woman's mind when she...
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  07/18/19
Sugar, sugar, salt, salt!
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He saying he does well when he's acting like he's really int...
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Yeah this is probably right. I'll compliment chicks some in ...
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Yellow floppy laser beams
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Why is there even a need to settle down?
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It really helps to FaceTime with the chick before committing...
Carnelian nighttime locale
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cr I get these bitches on WhatsApp fast. I'm not spending $7...
Yellow floppy laser beams
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Are fatties really that much of a problem? For me less than ...
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  07/18/19
These guys are novices if they can't sort through the fattie...
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  07/18/19
they're good because you can get pussy without having to go ...
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outside?
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like out of the basement
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It is horrifying. I tried it for the first time last year an...
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I've been on apps in a big city for little less than a year ...
irradiated lay
  07/18/19
yea it's horrifying how many good looking women are on there...
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The problem isn’t that they can’t find a dude, i...
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CR. And every single one of the women has been w a higher s...
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You'll be lucky if the girl you're on a date with complains ...
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That's good though that she isn't an actual gold digger tho!
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Date: July 18th, 2019 1:51 AM
Author: Rusted stimulating bawdyhouse clown

Reading the tinder reddit makes it seem even worse

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38549578)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 1:55 AM
Author: fiercely-loyal impertinent parlour



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38549585)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 2:04 AM
Author: Brass turdskin

would not be opposed to literally banning it in its current form and forcing society to figure out an alternative.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38549600)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 3:53 AM
Author: charismatic fantasy-prone genital piercing



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38549721)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 4:38 AM
Author: chartreuse thriller area marketing idea



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38549757)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 3:48 PM
Author: infuriating senate mother

we need a millennial ross douthat type to start pushing this

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552236)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 3:59 PM
Author: gamers rise up

it 100% should be banned by law

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552275)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 4:05 PM
Author: Confused sinister school cafeteria codepig



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552304)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 2:04 AM
Author: bateful chrome round eye hall

I found it to be a thoroughly enjoyable and lighthearted experience

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38549601)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 2:10 AM
Author: buff soul-stirring rigpig multi-billionaire

It used to be great 5 years ago. Girls were enthusiastic to meet up and I had multiple solid long term relationships out of it. I can recall how excited id be to meet up with girls. 3 main things ruined it:

1. Too many people joined. Right now, as an average looking dude I have 120 matches on hinge and get 3 or 4 a day. A new shiny object is always ready to be unwrapped. Unless things go perfectly on a date there’s no urgency to not meet one of the other 100 chicks. For any semi decently attractive girl on these apps, I image they have thousands of matches.

2. Men took advantage of the lack of social accountability, myself included. We realized that these apps gave us the chance to explore a sexual relationship with zero accountability. Because you had no mutual contacts, there was zero friction to make for an immediate disconnect.

3. Even chicks who are like north of 2 bills have had sex with men the look like Cristiano Ronaldo, which has led to complete delusion as to who is in their league.

Every girl on dating apps has been pumped and dumped at least 10 times. We are talking sex immediately followed by zero contact. the whole thing has turned into a ceasepool where everyone is confident they are gonnna get fucked over.



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38549614)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 2:14 AM
Author: Charcoal faggot firefighter property

Seems accurate.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38549620)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 4:12 AM
Author: charismatic fantasy-prone genital piercing



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38549744)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 4:41 AM
Author: Vibrant church voyeur

the industrial revolution and its consequences

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38549760)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 3:43 PM
Author: Brass turdskin



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552222)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 3:47 PM
Author: buck-toothed cracking milk



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552233)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 5:05 PM
Author: crusty internet-worthy coffee pot antidepressant drug



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552691)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 10:09 PM
Author: crimson bipolar associate

(guy who thinks dating some degenerate app slut for 9 months is a "long term relationship")

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38554363)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 2:12 AM
Author: Charcoal faggot firefighter property

It's both wonderful and terrible.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38549616)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 3:46 PM
Author: disrespectful bright chad

App dating should be for back burner chicks. You meet, you bang, you see if they're worthwhile, but the goal should always be to meet someone to settle down with in an organic way (friends/family, activities, work, etc.).

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552228)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 3:48 PM
Author: Dun Spot

Most relationships are now through apps.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552234)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 3:54 PM
Author: disrespectful bright chad

Most people are 100 IQ... What's your point?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552255)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 3:57 PM
Author: Carnelian nighttime locale

Opposite, actually. I made it very clear what I was looking for in my profile and got good responses. I chatted with the attractive ones enough to figure out which ones were not total fucking morons, then FaceTimed with a few others. Eventually I settled on some Lithuanian chick. Dressed up nice for the first date and gave her flowers, which drove her crazy. 5 months later we're still together and I'm pretty happy with how it all worked out.

Had I done the usual thing where you act aloof and meet a bunch of randos after texting for an hour, I could not have pulled this off.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552267)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 4:01 PM
Author: useless autistic cuckold set

Which app, what did you say to make it clear what you were looking for? Age?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552280)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 4:04 PM
Author: Carnelian nighttime locale

OKC. Hard to go into much detail without sharing outable info, but I put some stuff in there about my divorce and my dating experiences, and I said I only wanted to meet women who were family oriented and put family first. A lot of women I ended up talking to had those really short profiles that say "no games," which I treated as an open invitation to cut to the chase. Women with long profiles get docked points, because who gives a fuck what movies you like?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552301)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 5:09 PM
Author: useless autistic cuckold set

interesting... the family angle. sounds like a great way to get paunchy mid-30s girls in my libcity.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552713)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 5:21 PM
Author: Carnelian nighttime locale

FOBs, actually. Which is what I prefer since american women are fat lazy bitches who can barely cook a frozen pizza.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552796)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 5:24 PM
Author: useless autistic cuckold set

lol'ed.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552813)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 5:29 PM
Author: Yellow floppy laser beams

What kind of FOBs are we talking about? How fobbish?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552838)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 5:36 PM
Author: Carnelian nighttime locale

It's not like I have a spreadsheet, but off the top of my head it seems like the ones who came over in their teens or later have more connection to their home cultures.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552879)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 4:09 PM
Author: Trip Magenta Theater Ceo

Honestly, this is the healthy way to do it but it has a major drawback--it's pretty devastating when you get blown out by the chick you decided to go all-in on and then you feel retarded for focusing on her rather than just being sociopathic and flirting with 17 chicks at once to see what pans out. Unfortunately I have terrible luck with the chicks who would be good for relationships and just get hookups and flings with chicks who are attractive but have something wrong with them.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552329)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 4:15 PM
Author: Carnelian nighttime locale

You should always be prepared to accept rejection. However, I've found that by bring honest and direct and doing the FaceTime thing, I'm able to set the hook pretty deep. It also helps them see that I'm genuine, don't post old pics, have a decent looking home etc

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552369)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 5:01 PM
Author: Trip Magenta Theater Ceo

I always get rejected by the ones I want for relationships though so it's pretty draining. In a SHITLOAD of app and online dating over the past 8yrs I've met maybe 10-15 chicks who would have been really good for me and got shot down by all of them. I think I may fuck myself over by not being flirty and sexual enough with these chicks because I'm gun-shy about blowing it with the rare decent girl who hasn't racked up a massive amount of hookups. My results are much better when I'm just trying to fuck. Not sure if it's a difference in how I act, or maybe the chicks I'm just trying to fuck have questionable standards and the ones I want for relationships are more easily able to see the things wrong with me. But I've had a decent number of instances where the chick is definitely physically attracted, we have a lot of similar interests, we talk a lot before meeting and she seems pretty invested in it, and I get knocked out on the first, second, or third date. ZERO success in those scenarios with the ones I've really cared about. Everyone I've dated for any length of time has been someone I've just sort of liked, fucked on the first or second date, and everything developed around sex.



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552671)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 5:07 PM
Author: disrespectful bright chad

Your life consists of working and playing video games. You provide nothing a beta provider would.... There's zero reason why anybody would want to get into a relationship with you.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552704)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 5:12 PM
Author: laughsome bearded stag film

it's not a great mystery. you have a shitty autistic personality and it's extremely evident here on xo. normie good girls will always run from a freak like you.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552727)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 5:26 PM
Author: Startled vigorous home headpube



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552822)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 5:36 PM
Author: Trip Magenta Theater Ceo

I know I have some limitations to work around but you seem further on the spectrum than I am. Also would not be at all surprised if you were lib, azn, or both, as those seem yombe the groups I'm getting a lot of hate from lately.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552882)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 5:18 PM
Author: Yellow floppy laser beams

All women want to be flattered and feel pretty. It's important that you keep that up. Even if you think "she probably hears that from every guy," say it anyway.

Also don't just compliment their looks. Compliment their clothes, makeup, all that shit. You don't have to be aggressive to make them feel good.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552773)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 5:20 PM
Author: laughsome bearded stag film

read back over what you just wrote. it's advice you would tell a 12 year old, not a 38 year old grown man.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552790)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 5:26 PM
Author: Yellow floppy laser beams

What do you think is running through a woman's mind when she obsesses over what to wear that night?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552823)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 5:27 PM
Author: disrespectful bright chad

Sugar, sugar, salt, salt!

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552829)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 5:30 PM
Author: laughsome bearded stag film



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Date: July 18th, 2019 7:52 PM
Author: snowy passionate jewess useless brakes



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Date: July 18th, 2019 7:53 PM
Author: snowy passionate jewess useless brakes

He saying he does well when he's acting like he's really into the chick, but that they lose interest when he plays it cool.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38553556)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 5:24 PM
Author: Trip Magenta Theater Ceo

Yeah this is probably right. I'll compliment chicks some in text but almost never do it on dates. It's something that dawned on me a few times before but I'd forgotten about it.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552811)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 4:27 PM
Author: Yellow floppy laser beams



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552473)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 5:32 PM
Author: Chocolate People Who Are Hurt University

Why is there even a need to settle down?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552857)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 3:54 PM
Author: Carnelian nighttime locale

It really helps to FaceTime with the chick before committing to anything. You end up wasting much less time with fatties.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552254)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 4:21 PM
Author: Yellow floppy laser beams

cr I get these bitches on WhatsApp fast. I'm not spending $75 on dinner with a hog.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552420)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 5:12 PM
Author: Trip Magenta Theater Ceo

Are fatties really that much of a problem? For me less than 10% show up being thicker than I expected, and I can only think of a couple that were legit fat. Maybe another 10% show up looking older/more weathered than I expected. Overwhelmingly though, the chicks I meet are more attractive in person than in their pics. Usually as long as you're meeting high 6s and 7s or better you're gonna be ok and often pleasantly surprised. Dip down to the marginal chicks who use camera angles to make themselves look decent and you run into problems.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552729)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 5:23 PM
Author: disrespectful bright chad

These guys are novices if they can't sort through the fatties. I exclusively swipe left on no body pics or suspiciously cropped pictures.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552807)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 4:16 PM
Author: lake crotch

they're good because you can get pussy without having to go outside

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552374)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 4:22 PM
Author: 180 theatre reading party

outside?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552424)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 4:22 PM
Author: lake crotch

like out of the basement

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552426)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 4:23 PM
Author: 180 theatre reading party

Tyft

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552435)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 8:13 PM
Author: blathering nudist step-uncle's house puppy



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38553629)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 5:27 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle rehab

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(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552828)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 5:30 PM
Author: disrespectful bright chad



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38552844)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 7:13 PM
Author: pale irate weed whacker sanctuary

It is horrifying. I tried it for the first time last year and very quickly realized that 90% of the people on there are addicted to the app and will never find a true match and/or will cheat for the rest of their lives. Of course, the other 10% find success with it, get married, shit out kids etc. those are the stories we hear. but everyone else is broken and need the app for day to day validation. One year later, the same people are still on there. It’s an addiction.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38553357)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 7:21 PM
Author: irradiated lay

I've been on apps in a big city for little less than a year and see the same fucking women. It's depressing.



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38553399)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 8:19 PM
Author: Concupiscible twinkling uncleanness

yea it's horrifying how many good looking women are on there for years. how the fuck can't they find a dude?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38553665)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 9:24 PM
Author: pale irate weed whacker sanctuary

The problem isn’t that they can’t find a dude, it’s that they can’t decide when to commit to one. Guys are just as guilty.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38554025)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 10:07 PM
Author: slap-happy institution

CR. And every single one of the women has been w a higher status man than you

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38554336)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 10:15 PM
Author: useless autistic cuckold set

You'll be lucky if the girl you're on a date with complains about these narcissistic douchebag finance or tech bros. But odds are she's been on a date with a higher status dude with a reasonable personality and he wasn't interested in her enough to lock it down. She won't really talk about that pump and dump but she's probably holding on to hope that another like him will give her a shot in the future.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38554396)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 10:39 PM
Author: Concupiscible twinkling uncleanness

That's good though that she isn't an actual gold digger tho!

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Date: July 18th, 2019 10:12 PM
Author: crimson bipolar associate

this entire thread makes me want to kill myself

we need a comet to strike ASAP

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4305195&forum_id=2#38554381)