Date: August 15th, 2009 2:57 PM Author: Turquoise yapping forum
What the fuck? My last 1L grade came back significantly lower than my others so I had a talk with the professor about it. Apparently, she marked me down by a full letter grade for not using "gender neutral" language, whatever that means. The grade I actually earned was very good, but the revised grade is below median. I was seriously about to punch this feminazi in the face. What should I do about it though? It's really fucking me over. I would have otherwise been top quarter at GULC, but now I'm close to the median, so it's really, REALLY fucking me ITE.
Date: August 15th, 2009 3:01 PM Author: Turquoise yapping forum
Aren't you a high school child? Do you understand that the grade I actually earned on POINTS was great, and the professor reduced it to a shitty grade to stroke her feminist ego?
Date: August 15th, 2009 3:06 PM Author: Turquoise yapping forum
See, I wouldn't even know where to begin with politically-correctivizing my writing, and I don't even want to correct it because people who care about this can go fuck themselves. Wikipedia and this feminist cunt were the first I'd ever heard of it.
Date: August 15th, 2009 3:27 PM Author: Titillating doobsian nursing home patrolman
It's shitty to mark you down for it, but if this isn't flame, you need to learn this now. You're going to run into people who find this offensive (or just old fashioned and out of date) for the rest of your career.
Date: August 15th, 2009 3:34 PM Author: Turquoise yapping forum
I'm not going to kowtow to irrational feminists. Shit like this just ensures that I'll do everything I can to backstab them on my way to the top. Then once I get there, I'll do everything I can to keep the old "glass ceiling" in place.
Since when did unreasonable attempts to change centuries-old conventions of the english language become the one valid view that all others must adhere to?
Date: August 15th, 2009 3:36 PM Author: Cracking Magical Native
i hate feminazis (or "irrational feminists") as much as the next logical person, but you're being a complete fucking baby about this professor's stylistic preferences.
mix in some sociopathic + striverish tendencies and you sound like a really great person!!
Date: August 15th, 2009 3:47 PM Author: Turquoise yapping forum
Look child, do you understand that in law school, professors do not grade on "stylistic preferences"? They read your exam, put a tick mark on it every time you write something good, then total the number of marks on your exam. Then the exams are ranked by the number of marks, and grades assigned accordingly. Law school exams are not a place to look for "good writing." In fact, the exams with the highest grades in a class like torts or contracts will often be atrociously written because it is otherwise impossible to hit all the issues in the time allotted. This is not like your high school English class. The only room for bias is that you are often likely to rack up more points if you parrot the ideological views of your professor, as expressed in class. On this particular exam, points were not a problem. I had enough points for an A. However, the professor went outside the normal grading system and gave me a B.
Date: August 15th, 2009 3:49 PM Author: Cracking Magical Native
again: i'm not arguing that what she did was fair. i consider it very unfair, especially taking into account your explanation of LS grading policy, and i think that you should talk to her and/or the administration about it.
all i contended was that you're being a fucking baby. every time you post in this thread, you reaffirm this.
Date: August 15th, 2009 3:56 PM Author: Turquoise yapping forum
Do you understand that my earned vs. actual grade is probably the difference between a $160k job and being unemployed at graduation? Only a fucking moron wouldn't be upset about that.
Date: August 15th, 2009 3:58 PM Author: Cracking Magical Native
i was more referring to your irrational lashing out in posts such as this one:
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Date: August 15th, 2009 3:34 PM
Author: Soshulism
I'm not going to kowtow to irrational feminists. Shit like this just ensures that I'll do everything I can to backstab them on my way to the top. Then once I get there, I'll do everything I can to keep the old "glass ceiling" in place.
Since when did unreasonable attempts to change centuries-old conventions of the english language become the one valid view that all others must adhere to?
Date: August 15th, 2009 4:12 PM Author: Turquoise yapping forum
There's nothing irrational about that. You're just upset at the idea that someone like me will undermine you and get you forced out as a first-year. It's a reasonable fear, as you're just the kind of cunt I'd do it to.
I am talking to the administration but it won't help much. My interviews are already fucked. If I don't come away from OCI with anything, I'm going to drop out and sue the school. No reason to waste 2 more years of tuition and wind up unemployed.
Date: August 15th, 2009 4:14 PM Author: Cracking Magical Native
what are you fucking talking about? how would you "undermine" me or "get [me] forced out"?
wow, you sound like a royal dick. good luck being a whiny, spoiled little asshole for the rest of your life. i'm sure you'll have a lot of success in your professional life with that entitled attitude.
Date: August 15th, 2009 4:25 PM Author: Turquoise yapping forum
Look you fucking moron. I'm not talking about "me" and "you" specifically, but you're obviously very upset that somewhere, someone like me is going to damage the career of someone like you. The fact that you don't know how a senior associate can easily pwn first years shows that you don't know much about the practice of law, and don't have any real reason to be on this forum.
Date: August 15th, 2009 3:39 PM Author: Titillating doobsian nursing home patrolman
At some point during the last 10 or 20 years, it became the norm. If you choose not to follow it, you will continue to run into people who will judge you for it.
Date: August 15th, 2009 3:56 PM Author: Flickering hall famous landscape painting
WTF is wrong with the word "firemen"? LIke 98% of "firefighters" are men. Such Bullshit. You know, I always use him/her and shit like that, but enough of this shit...my textbooks are all sexist AGAINST men. Everytime they discuss a judge or doctor or lawyer it seems to be "she". So not only have feminists created a society with 10 times higher divorce and illegitimacy rates, they also purposely punish students for ideological reasons.
Date: August 15th, 2009 4:03 PM Author: Flickering hall famous landscape painting
I see, this is where my arguments, all correct, cannot be disproved by you or anyone else so your feeble teenage mind resorts to insults. Get off your ass and do soome exercise. Your brain won't get you far in life.
Date: August 15th, 2009 4:12 PM Author: Cracking Magical Native
your post was far too illogical to bother with at first, but if you insist...
>> WTF is wrong with the word "firemen"? LIke 98% of "firefighters" are men. Such Bullshit.
stupid argument. i don't have a problem with male gendered nouns, but obviously, the demographics of a certain profession have nothing to do with the complaints of those who do. also, it's closer to 95%, which doesn't matter at all but shows that you're talking out of your ass.
>> You know, I always use him/her and shit like that, but enough of this shit...my textbooks are all sexist AGAINST men. Everytime they discuss a judge or doctor or lawyer it seems to be "she".
this is silly. by saying that textbooks that use "she" are sexist "AGAINST men," you're implying that use of gendered pronouns IS indicative of gender preference, and thus backing up the (ridiculous, in my opinion) assertion that using "he" is sexist. good job fortifying the argument against which this thread was based, idiot.
>> So not only have feminists created a society with 10 times higher divorce and illegitimacy rates,
i won't argue with this, but you know just as well as i do that you are VASTLY oversimplifying things. are there aspects of a gender-equal society that promote these things? of course. can you say that "feminists" have directly "created" these particular changes? no, unless you're a moron with no logical reasoning skills.
>> they also purposely punish students for ideological reasons.
yep! one poorly-described anecdote clearly demonstrates a fact about "feminists" as a collective entity! wow, you're so insightful!
Date: August 15th, 2009 4:19 PM Author: awkward wine school antidepressant drug
please don't use the writing style of breaking posts into segments and arguing against each segment separately. it's really annoying for all parties involved.
Date: August 15th, 2009 4:21 PM Author: Cracking Magical Native
that's why i originally just replied by telling him how stupid his post was. but he apparently thought that he put forth some amount of rational substance in that post, so i had to elaborate as to why it was so dumb.
Date: August 15th, 2009 4:30 PM Author: Cracking Magical Native
i agree.
but nothing he's even said about this professor indicates that she's a rabid feminist. she's a woman who took off points for a stupid, unfair reason related to gender neutrality in writing, and he's on here bitching about how he's gonna "backstab" her when he "get[s] to the top" and "do everything [he] can to keep the old 'glass ceiling' in place."
again, i hate feminazi WOMEN'S POWER!!! cunts as much as anyone else. some women take feminism so far so that it no longer has to do with equality; it becomes about women's superiority. this is entirely counterproductive and stupid.
someone who's militantly anti-gendered pronouns may very well be a member of this group -- or they could just be a nit-picky professor. that's really not the issue here.
Date: August 15th, 2009 4:35 PM Author: Turquoise yapping forum
Look moron, try reading what I wrote. There's probably not any way I can backstab a tenured law professor, but you can damn sure bet I'm going to sabotage the careers of any female associates at my firm who lean even slightly to the left.
Date: August 15th, 2009 4:41 PM Author: Cracking Magical Native
Date: August 15th, 2009 4:35 PM
Author: Soshulism
Look moron, try reading what I wrote. There's probably not any way I can backstab a tenured law professor, but you can damn sure bet I'm going to sabotage the careers of any female associates at my firm who lean even slightly to the left.
Date: August 15th, 2009 4:47 PM Author: Cracking Magical Native
i understand that you're mad, man, but you're making yourself look like a huge brat here. calm down and try to return to this issue later, when you can think a little more clearly, ok? :)
Date: August 15th, 2009 4:34 PM Author: big hissy fit
you need to stop calling people dumb. your stupidity is obvious to anyone here. how can the percentage of a population that is male have no impact on what to call it? how can "firemen" be invalid if NINETEEN our of TWENTY firefighters is a man? get raped slut.
Date: August 15th, 2009 4:37 PM Author: Cracking Magical Native
again, i have no problem with words like "firemen." i don't consider it "invalid" in the least.
people who do, however, probably feel that the female population is overlooked when words like this are used -- obviously, the size of that population that they feel is neglected is more or less irrelevant.
for the record, i think that arguing against words like "firemen" is stupid. all i'm saying in this thread is that the OP and anal beads are being complete idiots about the concept of "feminism."
Date: August 15th, 2009 4:30 PM Author: Flickering hall famous landscape painting
Oh no - 95% versus 98%! That changes everything, obviously.
My textbooks (and ask anyone else here, probably the same way) ARE biased. Some kind of fairness would indicate that if the politically-correct writers were after equality, the pronouns would use he and she about equally. They don't, and it should be very offensive to males, 50% of the law school population. This is why high school dykes like you should not argue with an actual law student about law school. I'm only wasting my time here because your stupidity needs a response.
Feminism and its associated ills (no-fault divorce, affirmative action in women's employment, etc.) created the situation whereby the things I mentioned happened. Feminism, directly AND indirectly, created the problem. YOu're just arguing semantics, because my facts are correct.
Next time, argue with someone at your own mental level...like maybe a 4th grader.
Date: August 15th, 2009 4:07 PM Author: awkward wine school antidepressant drug
if this isn't flame, what you should do IS:
send the prof a complaint email clearly stating the gender issue ("i think you should revert my grade because use of 'non-gender-neutral language' should not be a basis for grading decisions"), then once the prof responds, send your email and her response to above the law. tons of negative publicity for the prof, and you can possibly use the public attention as leverage to get the dean to alter the grade.
Date: August 15th, 2009 4:23 PM Author: Cracking Magical Native
it just pisses me off that there's no middle ground with these people. either someone is a FEMINAZI CUNT WHO BELIEVES WOMEN ARE SUPERIOR!!! or they're a misogynist piece of shit who sees anyone who believes in gender equality in the workplace as a member of the former category.
i'm fucking FAR from a feminist, but i'm also not a testosterone-inflated idiot who blames FEMINISM!!! for all of society's problems.
Date: August 15th, 2009 4:27 PM Author: deep step-uncle's house pozpig
I am a woman... No one in this thread is saying feminazi cunts are the root of a evil, but this women is clearly a feminazi cunt. She may have RUINED someone's life over something retarded.
Date: August 15th, 2009 4:39 PM Author: Cracking Magical Native
why the professor graded the paper unfairly shouldn't be the issue, here. this thread should be an attack on professors who let stupid shit get in the way of grading papers appropriately -- like the one described in Marked down a letter grade for not using gender neutral language -- not on "feminism" as a hazily-defined concept.
Date: August 15th, 2009 4:57 PM Author: self-absorbed nibblets institution
Feminism in most forms is a destructive political grievance system that refuses to acknowledge innate traits in women. This refusal is symptomatic of irrational feminist behavior. OP highlighted an egregious example of feminist behavior, which was grounded in irrational feminist concerns.
Your replies throughout this thread demonstrate an irrationally positive attitude towards feminism. Fitting.
Date: August 15th, 2009 5:00 PM Author: Cracking Magical Native
i support "feminism" in the form of "gender equality in the workplace," not in the destructive forms that you described.
i don't support the professor's actions at all, and that's not the issue here. the OP's and JFAB's attitudes toward "feminism" are what i'm responding to.
Date: August 15th, 2009 5:04 PM Author: self-absorbed nibblets institution
Equal results or opportunity? Feminism foolishly seeks the former.
Feminism often professes intellectually dishonest ideas and dismisses the differences between men and women because acknowledging those differences undermines its silly ideal of equal results.
I think women should have every opportunity in the world. I also think, women being women, they won't take many of them. Feminists blame the world for this when they should be blaming the nature of women.
Date: August 15th, 2009 5:09 PM Author: Cracking Magical Native
as you said below, two different things are being discussed here: feminism in theory and feminism in practice. i don't know enough about the latter to be able to carry on an intelligent conversation about it. all i know is that people who denounce "feminism" as a whole, at least in this thread, tend not to support equality in almost any sense of the word.
Date: August 15th, 2009 4:24 PM Author: naked church people who are hurt
i believe it. had a TA mark me down in LRW for italicizing a blank space in a case citation. she only knocked me down half a point though. in retaliation i took a dump on her chest while her husband watched.
Date: August 15th, 2009 4:59 PM Author: self-absorbed nibblets institution
Definition =/= practice. Feminism frequently seeks equal results where they should not exist. Don't hide behind some theoretical definition that no one practices.
Date: August 15th, 2009 4:31 PM Author: Mind-boggling tanning salon
My BATTLER sense has detected flame! Clearly your statements do not add up. If this grade was so much lower than your other grades, how could it be the thing which dropped you to median? If this grade is medianisj it should not have been able to offset your other high grades IDIOT
Date: August 15th, 2009 4:44 PM Author: Mind-boggling tanning salon
IDIOT Not if they are so high that one median level grade causes you to go talk to the prof for the reason you listed. You're flame has been BATTLERPWNED.
Date: August 15th, 2009 4:49 PM Author: Turquoise yapping forum
It wasn't a median grade. The grade would have been well above the median and boosted my GPA significantly, but instead it was changed to a below median grade that damaged my GPA significantly. When you don't have a large sample size, one grade is a big deal.
Date: August 15th, 2009 4:52 PM Author: Mind-boggling tanning salon
You said it was close to median in the unedited OP. Of course, we can always ask other GULC students if B is far below median. Somehow I don't think they will support your assertions.
Date: August 15th, 2009 4:59 PM Author: Turquoise yapping forum
I never edited the OP.
Go ahead and do it. My GPA is .6 above the median as my grades currently stand. With an A instead of a B in that class, my GPA would have been right around top quarter.
Wow, doing this little search, I realize how fucking many of GULC's female professors are involved in "feminist theory", "gender and the law" or "domestic violence" bullshit. In any normal society, these women would be secretaries at best. Fucking worthless how much this profession has dropped.
Date: August 15th, 2009 5:16 PM Author: Mind-boggling tanning salon
Do you have proof median is a B? In any case, that would mean a B is close to median , and if his other grades were that much higher than a B a B could not bring him to median.
Date: August 15th, 2009 4:32 PM Author: Apoplectic Station Marketing Idea
The people calling this flame obviously haven't spent much time around female law professors and law students. This is how they are, and I've made a name for myself here by railing against them.
The OP's situation is all too common unfortunately. What is extremely unusual about it is that the professor appears to have done it blatantly and obviously. Generally when a feminazi does this, she will just mark down less points than the exam should have earned. I've seen this happen firsthand (things like me receiving one point for each of a tort's four elements, whereas my friend received one point total for listing the four elements. His points were systematically reduced that way).
Date: August 15th, 2009 4:57 PM Author: Apoplectic Station Marketing Idea
She was a huge feminist and was constantly bringing up social issues that had absolutely NO RELEVANCE to civil procedure. He was more of an alpha frat d00d who was not at all reserved about sharing his opinions in class. Nothing was ever done because the grading was "blind" supposedly, but there was obvious foul play involved. I had the opportunity to read both my exam and his exam very closely. His was equal to or maybe slightly better than mine, applying the way the prof awarded points to my exam. I got an A-, he got a B-.