Date: December 29th, 2010 2:16 PM Author: poppy rigor
The LSAT/SAT correlation is weak, the SAT takes less effort to game, that's the average LSAT score attained by H students, while the SAT averages show the average highest score each student has attained, etc.
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Date: December 30th, 2010 6:24 PM Author: ruby stock car place of business
Not even sure it is that high. I have seen that the median is 164-165. Of course, the last few years don't really count ever since they basically let people re-take with impunity. You can't really count LSATs from now against LSAT averages from a few years ago.
Date: December 30th, 2010 2:06 PM Author: cruel-hearted fishy property Subject: There
are a lot of Harvard to Suffolk or New England Law grads. I don't see anything really wrong with this. You guys have a very skewed perception of how the world works. I think the recent gubernatorial candidate in Rhode Island, Frank Caprio, had a Harvard Undergraduate, Suffolk Law School pedigree. Trust me, there is a lot of that, particularly here in New England.
Date: December 30th, 2010 4:36 PM Author: Stirring chest-beating deer antler ape
Suffolk is a little more understandable because so many politicians in New England went there. But NESL is a true 4TT on the Cooley level. THere is no excuse for that.
Date: December 30th, 2010 11:25 AM Author: orchid abode
Average LSAT at Y and P are 165. That means someone who is just a minor slacker and has a 3.3 GPA/162 LSAT is going to be solidly in tier2 territory, or TTT with scholly.
Date: December 30th, 2010 11:13 AM Author: Arousing geriatric locale
Not that uncommon. Probably a striverish high school senior from outside the tri-state area whose mom put him in a bunch of SAT prep courses and did a bunch of random extracurriculars/sports.
Date: March 15th, 2011 12:14 PM Author: Marvelous psychic
Right. Now that schools no longer have to report LSAT averages, you can't make a direct comparison between UG averages and LS "medians." Still, you can look at historical LS stats to get a sense of the quality of the average LSAT taker at HYPS (not that impressive).
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June 2008 — August 2008 (3 months)
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Activities and Societies:
Harvard Model United Nations, Harvard National Model United Nations, Harvard Model Congress, Harvard Model Congress San Francisco, Harvard Model Congress Europe
Date: December 30th, 2010 12:17 PM Author: Mind-boggling hunting ground water buffalo
Virtually any law school in the top 50 will have kids from HYP. I knew one who went to HUG -> Valparaiso, but I think he transfered to a tier-2 school after his first year.
Date: December 30th, 2010 12:51 PM Author: Aromatic Party Of The First Part
Holy shit, you knew that kid? I remember Valpo used to send me brochures after I took the LSAT, and I was absolutely shocked to see Harvard and Dartmouth listed in their current incoming class profile, given the ~150 LSAT average.
Date: December 31st, 2010 1:43 AM Author: contagious factory reset button
yeah but the point is between the ridiculous ivy athlete backdoors, legacy admits, and AA recipients, there are plenty of dumb motherfuckers at harvard undergrad.
Date: December 30th, 2010 12:53 PM Author: Aromatic Party Of The First Part
Probably right about average. Avg GPA out of Harvard is around 3.4-3.5, median LSAT 165-66. Should be good enough for BC or a peer school, especially given the admissions bump you get from having gone to Harvard.
Date: December 30th, 2010 12:59 PM Author: Motley Canary Son Of Senegal
Yeah, so if the average LSAT is ever below 165, which I'd guess it frequently is, then a little under 3.5/~164 isn't going to be a blazing admissions combo, especially if the kid is white or Azn.
Date: December 30th, 2010 12:56 PM Author: cerise university
True. But the caveat is that many of the lower scorers never apply or attend law school. The dedicated applicants retake, score higher, and get into much better schools.
Date: December 30th, 2010 12:59 PM Author: orchid abode
I would guess that it's exactly the opposite. Top schools like HYP probably produce a fair number of 175+ LSATS and very few scores <155. If anything, the average is going to be skewed upwards by all the superstudy azns who get crazy scores.
Date: December 30th, 2010 1:05 PM Author: cerise university
yes, but you shouldn't underestimate the number of kids who take the LSAT just to try it out and find out 1) it's harder than it appears and 2) their heart isn't set on law school.
As a result the vast majority of HYP law school attendees enroll in T14 schools despite the low LSAT average for HYP takers.
Date: December 30th, 2010 1:18 PM Author: Big-titted Chapel Sex Offender
Jason D. Burke is apparently a diseased fuckup, blogs Lena Chen...
Gay is just the tip of the iceberg.
Speaking of my friends, the fact that Jason D. Burke is a knobgobbler is really quite minor, considering that my social group contains individuals at varying levels of crazy. Legit crazy! In the medicated sense of the word. Just among my closest friends, I can count a bipolar [Courtney Kennedy], a narcoleptic*, and an obsessive-compulsive. [as well as the violent cunt with an arrest record Christine Z. Yu] Who have all, at one point or another, literally wanted to kill themselves. (All these conditions pre-dated Harvard, but our fine institution, I’m convinced, only exacerbated them.) Luckily, we’ve learned through the years that life can, in fact, be bearable, especially when one learns how to make light of mental illnesses and crack suicide jokes, in lieu of actually attempting suicide, which would just be tragic and not very funny at all. (I do feel bad for the people who overhear us discuss these morbid topics, but the comfort of strangers is just collateral damage in the quest to sustain meaning in life.)
This is why I always inwardly chuckle when I hear someone proclaim that “so-and-so is fucking nuts”! Such hyperbole, really. I mean, have you ever lived with an anti-social bipolar person misdiagnosed as depressed and mistreated with anti-depressants? Because I have! And trust me, it’s all fun and games until someone’s neurons start misfiring.
Date: December 30th, 2010 4:40 PM Author: Stirring chest-beating deer antler ape
this isn't even remotely embarrassing compared to lots of other combos out there. Plus, maybe someone just lived in New England all his life and didn't get into HLS.
Date: December 30th, 2010 4:50 PM Author: Dashing claret associate
i know some HYP UGs that ended up doing TTT MBAs. not TTT as in non-top 7, but TTT as in truly third tier MBAs. basically, accredited but outside of the top 100 within the US.
to be fair, i think most of them were working full time and their companies paid for their MBAs, provided that they continued working; so a lot of them took evening MBAs at the local school as an opportunity to get the qualification and rise up faster within the company.
Date: July 5th, 2011 6:21 PM Author: plum aphrodisiac immigrant
i never got why people would want to ruin their resume by going to a lesser grad school. ive even seen some T14 -> shitty LLM program people. fucking weird man.
Looking at average LSAT for an UG school is misleading because I'm sure a good part of the bottom third of the class who has no job and no clue just takes the LSAT, grasping at straws, whether they end up going to LS or not.