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Is Taylor Swift our greatest living poet-philosopher?

Consider her latest album, Red. In it, she discourses on th...
amber address liquid oxygen
  03/24/13
"She is both Socrates and Diotima, Dante's Beatrice and...
Comical bearded fanboi
  03/24/13
This is good. Where did you steal it from?
Crusty Public Bath Place Of Business
  03/25/13
I think he stole it from American Psycho, the book. I haven...
dashing rehab
  03/25/13
I was loosely parodying the Whitney Houston chapter for tone...
amber address liquid oxygen
  03/26/13
180
maize marvelous gas station
  04/04/14
...
Bateful Weed Whacker
  11/15/16
Who did she break up with this time?
umber sweet tailpipe pervert
  03/24/13
all of her bfs dump her because she's a frigid dyke
adventurous aquamarine menage skinny woman
  03/24/13
lol have you seen the dudes she dates? Frigid dyke isn't th...
amber address liquid oxygen
  03/24/13
What's the problem then?
razzle-dazzle shitlib
  07/04/13
This is pure speculation of course but I'm going with roast ...
Sadistic plaza
  04/04/14
Talk to your kids about UGLY VAGINA
iridescent parlour kitty
  04/04/14
yes brother, she was the first human being to genuinely unit...
Burgundy Hyperactive Pisswyrm Potus
  03/24/13
That contribution can't be underestimated. She certainly ha...
amber address liquid oxygen
  03/24/13
...
laughsome blood rage
  03/24/13
lol what
Greedy Mind-boggling Market
  03/25/13
poetry and philo are mutually exclusive, hth
Brussels Sprout (Apropos of the Wet Snow)
  03/25/13
Fuck off, Socrates. You couldn't even troll Thrasybulus wit...
amber address liquid oxygen
  03/26/13
...
Irate theater voyeur
  07/04/13
I realize this is not serious, but she honestly is the most ...
House-broken quadroon state
  03/25/13
She's not a talented songwriter. All of her songs fit the ba...
Massive Big Toilet Seat
  03/26/13
hey guess what songwriter =/= lyricist
Charismatic dilemma jewess
  04/30/13
...
Charismatic dilemma jewess
  03/25/13
I see now that you are Estrada.
Hairraiser gunner alpha
  03/25/13
bad read imo.
lurid anal narrative
  04/04/14
180
Obsidian Exhilarant Theater Stage
  03/26/13
one hundred and eighty
supple location associate
  03/26/13
bump
Comical bearded fanboi
  04/13/13
op needs to do kendrick lamar's album
mewling jade property telephone
  04/13/13
...
maize marvelous gas station
  04/04/14
http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1dpph8/is_taylor_...
Comical bearded fanboi
  05/05/13
easily
Canary pungent boistinker spot
  05/05/13
bump
Comical bearded fanboi
  06/29/13
much deserved 180
sable hall
  06/29/13
...
Comical bearded fanboi
  07/03/13
have a good life, millenials
walnut frisky orchestra pit
  07/03/13
killself
duck-like ticket booth circlehead
  07/03/13
go away peter
aphrodisiac carmine gaping volcanic crater
  07/03/13
go away peter
aphrodisiac carmine gaping volcanic crater
  07/03/13
lol jewel pwns her in every way
abnormal maroon partner temple
  07/04/13
BAM! Blowjob from Taylor or Jewel. Who do you choose?
Irate theater voyeur
  07/04/13
that's a tough q probably jewel
abnormal maroon partner temple
  07/04/13
180
Filthy lay sandwich
  12/26/13
180
Motley cuck box office
  03/28/14
lana del rey hth
diverse orange kitty cat reading party
  03/28/14
Joanna Newsom or gtfo
multi-colored really tough guy hominid
  04/04/14
...
Motley cuck box office
  04/04/14
nice poast, man
Exciting Institution
  04/04/14
180 and "the deceptive audacity of REO Speedwagon"...
multi-colored really tough guy hominid
  04/04/14
...
mildly autistic balding center roommate
  04/04/14
op is bob woodward pu right? pure scholarship
lurid anal narrative
  04/04/14
...
bat-shit-crazy unholy athletic conference
  04/04/14
...
Offensive haunted graveyard
  09/12/15
...
scarlet glittery dopamine
  10/01/15
Fuck me I love threads like these.
ungodly titillating stage round eye
  10/01/15
...
Thriller Stage
  01/10/16
...
godawful roast beef trump supporter
  05/27/16
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Galvanic Milky Garrison Faggot Firefighter
  05/27/16
...
Comical bearded fanboi
  11/14/16
...
chrome native dingle berry
  11/14/16
Just imagine Patrick Bateman going through this entire spiel...
low-t laser beams
  11/15/16
S/T to Red may be the greatest 4-album compendium of emo lyr...
At-the-ready Giraffe
  11/15/16
...
At-the-ready Giraffe
  08/10/17
I could read these all day everyday
Passionate opaque jap library
  11/15/16
...
Sickened Juggernaut Pocket Flask
  08/10/17
...
Disrespectful Station Persian
  08/25/17
...
Hot space
  08/25/17
...
Disrespectful Station Persian
  11/03/19
...
Offensive haunted graveyard
  04/18/20
...
Disrespectful Station Persian
  01/01/21
Great insight into a mind of a psychopathic schizo, thanks
bossy heaven psychic
  01/01/21


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Date: March 24th, 2013 6:31 PM
Author: amber address liquid oxygen

Consider her latest album, Red. In it, she discourses on the five traditional branches of philosophy: metaphysics ("Everything Has Changed"), epistemology ("I Knew You Were Trouble"), logic ("Begin Again"), aesthetics ("Sad Beautiful Tragic"), and ethics ("We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together"). But she invigilates these categories ruthlessly in her opus on the futility of human action ("I Almost Do"), her paean to faith against reason ("State of Grace"), and her enigmatic Socratic dialogue on Western decline ("The Last Time", featuring Gary Lightbody of Snow Patrol).

Just as Bob Dylan used his nasal whine to focus our moral attention on the everyday details of life, like race riots and police shootings, Taylor Swift uses her flinty, almost Canadian voice to assure us that her songs are trite morality plays, artifice based in part on a true story. Without either the utopian simplicity of The Eagles or the deceptive audacity of REO Speedwagon, she needs the mask of biographical incident to disguise the disturbing implications of her radical skepticism. Does she believe the world floats on the back of a turtle? Who knows? We'll have to wait for the Playboy interview.

Taylor Swift's artificiality is not unique in pop music. She plays America's fag hag, just as Justin Beiber plays an eternally molested child, right down to his milksop Christianity, and Nicki Minaj confirms every stereotype about transgendered prostitutes from Queens. These archetypes give us a means of confronting the confusion and despair of post-industrial life. We have strangled the last king with the entrails of the last priest, but we still want authority and we still want absolution. Enter Taylor Swift, herself innocent yet confessional, forgiving every deviance yet relentlessly preserving them for the record in surprisingly catchy tunes. She is both Socrates and Diotima, Dante's Beatrice and Milton's Uriel.

So, to answer the question which motivates this poast: is Taylor Swift our greatest living poet-philosopher? No, that's probably Michael Sandel.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22873831)



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Date: March 24th, 2013 10:07 PM
Author: Comical bearded fanboi

"She is both Socrates and Diotima, Dante's Beatrice and Milton's Uriel."

180

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22875404)



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:15 PM
Author: Crusty Public Bath Place Of Business

This is good. Where did you steal it from?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22878953)



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:17 PM
Author: dashing rehab

I think he stole it from American Psycho, the book. I haven't read the book in years but an entire chapter was written about Whitney Houston. I would be surprised if OP replaced Whitney Houston and Whitney Houston song's with Taylor Swift and Taylor Swift songs.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22878961)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 3:05 AM
Author: amber address liquid oxygen

I was loosely parodying the Whitney Houston chapter for tone, but it's not exactly the same.

Here's the chapter, btw.

http://www.whitney-fan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4434

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22882086)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 2:40 PM
Author: maize marvelous gas station

180

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25322967)



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Date: November 15th, 2016 10:25 AM
Author: Bateful Weed Whacker



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#31913521)



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Date: March 24th, 2013 6:33 PM
Author: umber sweet tailpipe pervert

Who did she break up with this time?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22873849)



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Date: March 24th, 2013 6:35 PM
Author: adventurous aquamarine menage skinny woman

all of her bfs dump her because she's a frigid dyke

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22873855)



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Date: March 24th, 2013 6:42 PM
Author: amber address liquid oxygen

lol have you seen the dudes she dates? Frigid dyke isn't the problem.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22873907)



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Date: July 4th, 2013 1:33 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle shitlib

What's the problem then?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23543747)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 10:28 AM
Author: Sadistic plaza

This is pure speculation of course but I'm going with roast beef curtains.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25321488)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 10:33 AM
Author: iridescent parlour kitty

Talk to your kids about UGLY VAGINA

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25321512)



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Date: March 24th, 2013 6:55 PM
Author: Burgundy Hyperactive Pisswyrm Potus

yes brother, she was the first human being to genuinely unite analytic and continental philosophy. greatest SCHOLAR of our age!

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22873968)



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Date: March 24th, 2013 9:44 PM
Author: amber address liquid oxygen

That contribution can't be underestimated. She certainly has been cucked enough times to qualify as a premier intellectual.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22875202)



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Date: March 24th, 2013 10:04 PM
Author: laughsome blood rage



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22875376)



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:23 PM
Author: Greedy Mind-boggling Market

lol what

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22878983)



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:23 PM
Author: Brussels Sprout (Apropos of the Wet Snow)

poetry and philo are mutually exclusive, hth

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22878988)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 2:55 AM
Author: amber address liquid oxygen

Fuck off, Socrates. You couldn't even troll Thrasybulus without breathlessly quoting Aeschylus.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22882072)



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Date: July 4th, 2013 1:30 AM
Author: Irate theater voyeur



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23543735)



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:25 PM
Author: House-broken quadroon state

I realize this is not serious, but she honestly is the most talented song-writer/singer to come along in a long time. Some of the stuff she's done that is not even well known is pretty brilliant, e.g.:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzJlpnBaJyw

She's still a very flawed person, but her talent is off the charts.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22878995)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:28 AM
Author: Massive Big Toilet Seat

She's not a talented songwriter. All of her songs fit the basic template of "rowdy rebellious teen" "wistful ex lover longing for *home*,"hopeful lover," and "nostalgic youth longing for even more youth." They're tropes in pop music that she and her team are clever enough to exploit. Doesn't make her a talented song writer.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22882297)



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Date: April 30th, 2013 9:59 PM
Author: Charismatic dilemma jewess

hey guess what songwriter =/= lyricist

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23110207)



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:37 PM
Author: Charismatic dilemma jewess



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22879053)



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:37 PM
Author: Hairraiser gunner alpha

I see now that you are Estrada.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22879054)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 1:45 PM
Author: lurid anal narrative

bad read imo.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25322525)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 5:17 AM
Author: Obsidian Exhilarant Theater Stage

180

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22882175)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:37 AM
Author: supple location associate

one hundred and eighty

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22882306)



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Date: April 13th, 2013 3:15 AM
Author: Comical bearded fanboi

bump

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22988737)



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Date: April 13th, 2013 3:38 AM
Author: mewling jade property telephone

op needs to do kendrick lamar's album

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22988776)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 2:41 PM
Author: maize marvelous gas station



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25322979)



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Date: May 5th, 2013 12:17 PM
Author: Comical bearded fanboi

http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1dpph8/is_taylor_swift_our_greatest_living/

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23137712)



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Date: May 5th, 2013 12:39 PM
Author: Canary pungent boistinker spot

easily

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23137813)



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Date: June 29th, 2013 5:12 PM
Author: Comical bearded fanboi

bump

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23503332)



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Date: June 29th, 2013 5:26 PM
Author: sable hall

much deserved 180

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23503409)



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Date: July 3rd, 2013 12:26 AM
Author: Comical bearded fanboi



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23528396)



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Date: July 3rd, 2013 12:30 AM
Author: walnut frisky orchestra pit

have a good life, millenials

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23528464)



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Date: July 3rd, 2013 12:31 AM
Author: duck-like ticket booth circlehead

killself

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23528471)



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Date: July 3rd, 2013 9:34 PM
Author: aphrodisiac carmine gaping volcanic crater

go away peter

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23541761)



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Date: July 3rd, 2013 9:34 PM
Author: aphrodisiac carmine gaping volcanic crater

go away peter

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23541762)



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Date: July 4th, 2013 1:29 AM
Author: abnormal maroon partner temple

lol jewel pwns her in every way

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23543730)



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Date: July 4th, 2013 1:31 AM
Author: Irate theater voyeur

BAM! Blowjob from Taylor or Jewel. Who do you choose?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23543737)



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Date: July 4th, 2013 2:34 AM
Author: abnormal maroon partner temple

that's a tough q

probably jewel

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23543981)



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Date: December 26th, 2013 6:35 PM
Author: Filthy lay sandwich

180

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#24716751)



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Date: March 28th, 2014 11:33 AM
Author: Motley cuck box office

180

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25277665)



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Date: March 28th, 2014 11:38 AM
Author: diverse orange kitty cat reading party

lana del rey hth

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25277687)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 10:24 AM
Author: multi-colored really tough guy hominid

Joanna Newsom or gtfo

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25321472)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 10:21 AM
Author: Motley cuck box office



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25321456)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 10:27 AM
Author: Exciting Institution

nice poast, man

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25321486)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 10:30 AM
Author: multi-colored really tough guy hominid

180 and "the deceptive audacity of REO Speedwagon" would be a great moniker.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25321498)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 1:33 PM
Author: mildly autistic balding center roommate



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25322449)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 1:44 PM
Author: lurid anal narrative

op is bob woodward pu right? pure scholarship

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25322523)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 3:09 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy unholy athletic conference



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25323175)



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Date: September 12th, 2015 3:18 PM
Author: Offensive haunted graveyard



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#28741244)



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Date: October 1st, 2015 5:28 AM
Author: scarlet glittery dopamine



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Date: October 1st, 2015 6:06 AM
Author: ungodly titillating stage round eye

Fuck me I love threads like these.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#28874117)



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Date: January 10th, 2016 8:26 PM
Author: Thriller Stage



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Date: May 27th, 2016 2:02 AM
Author: godawful roast beef trump supporter



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Date: May 27th, 2016 2:06 AM
Author: Galvanic Milky Garrison Faggot Firefighter



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#30568862)



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Date: November 14th, 2016 6:40 PM
Author: Comical bearded fanboi



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Date: November 14th, 2016 6:56 PM
Author: chrome native dingle berry



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Date: November 15th, 2016 10:25 AM
Author: low-t laser beams

Just imagine Patrick Bateman going through this entire spiel while playing a "I Knew You Were Trouble", just before he brutally murders people. What I'm saying is it's time for an American Psycho remake.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#31913515)



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Date: November 15th, 2016 10:32 AM
Author: At-the-ready Giraffe

S/T to Red may be the greatest 4-album compendium of emo lyricism of all time

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#31913586)



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Date: August 10th, 2017 12:55 PM
Author: At-the-ready Giraffe



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Date: November 15th, 2016 10:34 AM
Author: Passionate opaque jap library

I could read these all day everyday

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#31913602)



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Date: August 10th, 2017 12:53 PM
Author: Sickened Juggernaut Pocket Flask



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Date: August 25th, 2017 2:38 PM
Author: Disrespectful Station Persian



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Date: August 25th, 2017 2:41 PM
Author: Hot space



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Date: November 3rd, 2019 9:30 PM
Author: Disrespectful Station Persian



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Date: April 18th, 2020 5:46 PM
Author: Offensive haunted graveyard



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Date: January 1st, 2021 5:36 PM
Author: Disrespectful Station Persian



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Date: January 1st, 2021 5:44 PM
Author: bossy heaven psychic

Great insight into a mind of a psychopathic schizo, thanks

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#41658323)