Date: December 3rd, 2013 5:09 PM Author: Floppy Kitty Cat
that other thread got me thinking
is building your own desktop still that much cheaper? for a grown ass man with dat jerb, is paying $200-300 extra to have it delivered to your door in one working piece that big a deal?
last computer i built was in 06, ran great, used it a few years, gave it to parents and worked fine with a few hijinks till about 2011 when i got too lazy to format it and just bought them a new one.
went for the MSI instead of the ASUS PRIME A320M-K because apparently you have to BIOS flash the ASUS for it to recognize a ryzen 5600x CPU - would rather pay the extra $2 to not go through the hassle of that shit lol
TOTAL SPENT SO FAR:
$315
RAM is the last item. 16 gb around $30. will look for any sales
Estimated total for this build is $345! 1800000000000000
(amerikkans can buy this on amazon for $65! insane! dat TTT exchange rate :/)
cyber monday and you are prob going to see these go down even further in price but shit is so cheap now i had to pick one up just in case prices creep up pre-cyber monday
cheapest 2tb nvme ssd that comes with dram. it literally was cheaper to convert to TTT usd and even after getting destroyed by the shitty exchange rate, and order it off amazon vis a vis buying local - actually most parts are 10-20% cheaper domestically so i got a decent deal with this ssd
prices are so cheap now youd be insane not to at least pick up one 500 gig-1tb drive and keep it in a closet as a backup drive
i spent a lot of time researching - cheapest samsung drive i found was like $62 / 1tb
still too expensive for my budget. plus, i fucking hate samsung on a personal level so FUCK THEM.
intel is 180000000
btw, another reason why this drive in particular is cheap is after intel sold off to solidigm they need to move their remaining inventory. i prob am buying one of the last intel-branded ssds. lmao@ how poor i am
Date: September 5th, 2023 7:43 PM Author: talking vibrant corner
That's interesting because it lends credence to accusations that these companies sell below cost in the USA and compensate by raping domestic consumers. Too bad the IMF busted down SK's import barriers in the 1990s. Now u can buy Intel for less at the department store.
ran cpu-z on my current rig to see what the specs were - CPU is literally 10 years old, 6 gigs of non-matching RAM, PSU doesnt even deliver reliable power anymore...LMAO
Date: September 1st, 2023 10:04 AM Author: obsidian boistinker cruise ship
Send to me. I got a fucked up one at best buy and never returned it since I was sick and had no energy. Takes minutes to load anything right out of the box (except web pages and streaming video which are super fast)
Date: September 4th, 2023 12:40 AM Author: talking vibrant corner
If you don't need the gaming fps the xx60 series are usually better. Every time I've looked into the xx70 cards they have some non-gaming related feature crippled. I discovered this the hard way when the 9xx series came out and the 970 was the only one that didn't do h.265 hardware decoding. The 950, 960 and 980 could play 4k video but the 970 could not. I also notice xx70 series is always the shovelware model that goes into prebuilt machines. Everyone who does DIY can either make do with the xx60 (there's usually a ti or super version too) or they throw down for peace if mind u get with the xx80
and cpus are secondary vis a vis gpu. ryzen 5600x will be PLENTY of horsepower for the next five years
finally, not a overclocker
im really happy with the MOBO i got. all the upgradeable stuff ill be doing slowly as cyber monday rolls around: gpu, m.2 SSD w/DRAM, more RAM, gaming keyboard/mouse, etc.
And if you buy ultrafast SSDs you will use dat bandwidth. B450 gives you one full speed nVME slot so you if dual boot you gotta choose which OS has to run on the slow drive.
It's worth investing in something that won't have choked up memory lanes. That's what this mobo doesn't have but yours does. You aren't future proofing anything with that old ass kit.
Date: September 4th, 2023 7:59 PM Author: talking vibrant corner
Windows runs like dogshit on this computer bro. It takes 10 minutes to fully boot and another 30 minutes to run updates. The drive is the fastest one u can get and I'm not even using bitlocker. Shit is SLOW. I don't run Windows unless I have to use Adobe or Word or do taxes.
Date: September 4th, 2023 9:30 PM Author: talking vibrant corner
These scanner and printer drivers have to load all kinds of bullshit, everything has a "control panel." Windows updates catches some drivers but others require this faggot MSI app that you can only get through the Microsoft Store.
Fuck MSI btw, this is the only time I used a motherboard from them and I'm going back to Gigabyte in the future. The app just blows, and you can't put a password on individual drive slots. My Thinkpad does this but a $300 MSI motherboard doesn't. All these companies suck dick. I bought an Asus "prime" motherboard and it was defective shit I sent back. Back in the day I worked part time at local computer shop and we never saw a single bad Asus board ever. Never saw a bad Gigabyte either but we sold like 4x more Asus. Now Asus is shit and only Gigabyte is maybe still good.
INTEL also used to make solid boards. If you just needed something durable that was the brand to get. Not cheap and no bells and whistles but real well made. Now all their commercial products except CPUs are low grade.
Date: August 30th, 2023 8:48 PM Author: disgusting medicated boiling water resort
i've been going the lenovo legion laptop route, using the 16" screen as a second monitor off to the side. current system is a ryzen 9 6900hx, 40gigs and a 6800s for graphics.
if i was shopping today, maybe look for something with the 4070 chip and/or whatever 7000 series amd probably has out now
Date: September 5th, 2023 6:39 PM Author: talking vibrant corner
AMD is better for that. It's easier to find Freesync for cheap, and it works better than g-sync. 2D is better. Linux support is better. Ray tracing is the gayest shit on earth. I can't imagine paying a $400 premium to have ray traced lighting and reflections. The performance hit is yuge even on the most expensive RTX card
for me, overwatch 2 and d4 (if i can get it on sale)
one of the big reasons for this new build is that i get MASSIVE fps drops when i play ow2, usually when there is too much action on screen. too lazy to troubleshoot, and my system is so fucking outdated
i3-4130 (apparently you can find used ones for FIVE FUCKING DOLLARS LMAO!)
ASROCK H81M-DGS (this apparently came out in 2015)
6 gb DD3 RAM (4gb@ 800 mhz+2gb@ 667 mhz)
that it makes financial sense to upgrade now. i basically avoided the entire mining crisis and am picking up stuff for dirt cheap. its 180
lmao. IIRC i bought my computer in like 2017 or something. was cheap as fuck, like $300. used the integrated graphics for a couple years, but after i started playing overwatch, i added the rx570
no issues at first but over time something in my system wore out - don't think the gpu is the issue, so time to upgrade
People are getting 170+ fps with a 1080 ti. They cost $200 used. I don't know what anyone needs more fps for unless there's something seriously wrong with them. Mine's never gotten stressed, it just needs good airflow. I keep waiting for someone to give me a reason to upgrade.
Date: September 6th, 2023 12:17 AM Author: mildly autistic cowardly trailer park
If I can get an Alienware with decent specs for like 40% off isn’t that just as good/cheap? Or can an equivalent machine and display really be had for under $500? My kids have been bugging me to build a rig with them, and I want to do it just for the fun of having a project, but I also fear sending them down a path of nerdy loserdom from whence they may never return.
if you dont build it yourself, whoever you get it from will nickel and dime you. theres a lot of weird shit out there now like, figuring out the difference between a ryzen 5600, 5600g, and 5600x, etc. a n00b could pay for a 5600x but get a 5600 and have no idea. or you might buy a m.2 ssd and think you got a GREAT deal just because its cheap, but later realize you fucked up because your ssd is dramless
keeping up with the tech all the time is impossible but once you figure out what's current, you'll know exactly what to look for and at what price
Date: September 6th, 2023 12:47 AM Author: talking vibrant corner
Are your kids really itching that hard to use windows?
I think I mention elsewhere in this thread I used to have a part time job in a computer store. I don't remember why, but for some reason I asked the owner if he was hiring, and he threw me a bunch of PC parts and just said "build a PC." I had never done that before, I had only tinkered, but dammit I built that fucker on the spot while he watched, and I copped dat jerb.
Date: September 6th, 2023 1:13 AM Author: mildly autistic cowardly trailer park
They’d default to Windows out of laziness, but if they were convinced that Linux or something else was an advantage that would probably get them even more gassed up to build their own. Of course this all started because some nerdier kid who has been coding and tinkering since kindergarten built his own and brags to my oldest all the time.
Memory makers are witnessing increasing prices as production reductions lead to price rises in both DRAM and NAND segments. Companies like Adata, Phison, and Winbond are experiencing improved revenues in September and Q3, with an overall positive future outlook, reports UDN.com.
The memory industry is seeing positive growth, especially after production cuts by leading makers such as Micron, Samsung, and SK Hynix. Phison, a leading developer of SSD controllers and a supplier of actual drives, has reported an increase in September revenues, achieving NT$50.04 billion ($1.557 billion). This is a 25.38% monthly increase and a 4.05% yearly increment, marking a 14-month high. The company's Q3 earnings also showed an encouraging 24% quarter-over-quarter growth, despite a year-over-year drop of 15%. Cumulatively, Phison's revenue for the first three quarters was down by 32%, standing at NT$324.74 billion ($10.1 billion).
Adata, leveraging both the production benefits and the recovery of DRAM and NAND prices, presented remarkable figures. The company's September revenue landed at NT$14.82 billion ($461.2 million), which is a monthly increase of 16.47% and an impressive annual growth of 113.10%. Adata's Q3 revenue amounted to NT$36.48 billion ($1.135 billion), with a 35.5% decline from the previous quarter but a significant 116.33% yearly spike. Their earnings for the first three quarters were great, too: at NT$108.72 billion ($3.383 billion), it indicated a 119.22% yearly increase, setting unprecedented highs.
samsung manipulating the market pre-black friday AS I SUSPECTED LOL:
The prices of dynamic random access memory (DRAM) chips show signs of rebound after a major chip glut that has loomed over the global semiconductor industry since early 2022. Experts forecast a turnaround for local chipmakers such as Samsung Electronics and SK hynix as chip prices rise in the fourth quarter.
The spot price of 8 gigabyte Double Data Rate 4 (DDR4) 2666 chips stood at $1.518 on Friday, according to market tracker DRAMeXchange. The price jumped 4.83 percent in a month compared to the figure which hit the record low at $1.448 on Sept. 4.
Spot price refers to the current market price at which a particular asset such as a commodity, financial instrument, or derivative product can be bought or sold for immediate delivery and settlement.
The spot price of 16-gigabyte Double Data Rate 2666 chip also hit a record low at $2.715 on Sept. 8 but climbed 3.13 percent to trade at $2.80 on Friday.
Amid the chip supply glut and sluggish demand, the spot price for DRAM chips has fallen into a decline since February 2022. Samsung and SK hynix have been slashing their chip production since late last year, which has resulted in chip inventory assets bottoming out and chip prices recovering in turn.
Contract prices for chips have also stopped falling.
The average contract price for 8 gigabyte DDR4 chips in September stood at $1.30, according to DrameXchange, the same figure as August and ending the five-month consecutive downturn since April.
Analysts project that memory chip prices will rebound from the fourth quarter.
“Inventories for DRAM chips from PC companies still remain high, enough to last for coming 10 to 16 weeks, but there is a positive change among consumer sentiment as clients accept price hikes and Samsung Electronics decided to further cut supply,” said Pak Yu-ak, an analyst at Kiwoom Securities. “That change is being reflected in a price rebound for DRAM chips, including DDR4 products, and is expected to lead to a rise in contract prices in the fourth quarter.”
With the notion that chip prices have passed an inflection point, the spotlight now turns to Samsung Electronics’ preliminary earnings report for the third quarter, scheduled to be released on Wednesday.
Samsung Electronics' Device Solution division, in charge of the company's cash cow chip business, posted an operating loss totaling nearly 9 trillion won ($6.7 billion) from the January-June period. A SK Securities' report forecasts the operating loss for its chip business will be reduced to 4.1 trillion won in the third quarter, a slight improvement compared to 4.36 trillion won operating loss in the second quarter.
“We believe that Samsung Electronics’ third quarter earnings release will be a turning point for the stock, serving as a chance for investors to recognize that the July-September period should mark an earnings bottom,” said Kim Dong-won, an analyst at KB Securities.
“Meanwhile, we see simultaneous rebounds in DRAM and NAND prices in the fourth quarter, which would mark the first time since the third quarter of 2021. Earnings for DRAM and NAND products should each turn positive from the fourth quarter of 2023 and second quarter of 2024, so the semiconductor business’s turn to black should come six months ahead of market expectations.”
prices for everything are up again after bottoming late last year. DO NOT buy anything new unless you are getting 30-50% off sticker price. i bought multiple 6900xts because i was getting them half off and im reselling one tonight for almost $200 in profit
next-gen cards are coming out late this year and next year so sit tight and wait.
i sold an extra 6900 xt last night for nearly 200 in profit
not really looking for anything new right now. battlemage, amd+nvidia next gen cards havent been announced yet. just waiting for my custom GPU loop from aliexpress to come in. ordered new fans for my current rx 570 which im gonna rehaul myself so it goes back to working condition
once my custom loop is installed on my system ima sell the entire thing for as much as i can and keep on making new systems with the leftover 6900xts i have for resale
keeping my last 6900xt for a custom system i will build for myself, and maybe keep my refurbished rx 570 as a backup GPU
hunting for a 7800X3D, then gonna install one of my new waterblocked 6900xt (picked up a couple of these for pennies on the dollar earlier this year). my current system is on the market now
Date: October 1st, 2024 11:56 PM Author: talking vibrant corner
I bought a 4070 so I could use RTX Broadcast. Why does AMD's software suck cock when it comes to basic things like noise cancellation? I don't even give a fuck about games.
Date: October 1st, 2024 11:59 PM Author: talking vibrant corner
It's still the most thermally efficient card on the market dipshit. It's a dual-fan card that fits in an ITX case, and the fans never turn on. I have to struggle to make it use more than 100W.
That's the other thing about AMD. Shitty ass power consumption and heat dissipation. Big oafish cards with 3 yuge fans lol. Only their APUs are good.
lol@ anyone giving a flying FUCK about "thermal efficiency" or "power consumption".
also even bigger LOLLERCAUST@ not even knowing that nvidia flagships are the most power-hungry cards on the market right now and literally caused 12V-connector fires
my 6900xt stays below 300w - modest for a flagship gpu - costs half of your shitcard despite being waterblocked, and blows your steel nomad + lite scores out of the fucking water
youre literally talking to the only poster on xoxo with a custom loop, and the only real hardcore gamer
actually lmaoing@ your fucktarded ass blabbering on about "fanless" as if it means anything. the fact that you are bragging about a 4070 which has truly shitty steel nomad scores is lulzy as fuck. even the ti isnt that great, for that matter. im literally top 25 on the steel nomad leaderboard.
lol@ this literally fucktarded 60 yr old realizing he just got his shit pushed in.
your dumbass probably is going to download 3dmark and run steel nomad but be too embarrassed to post his shitty score - the 6900xt runs circles around the 4070, btw
BUT BUT MY CARD IS MORE EXPENSIVE FOR LESS PERFORMANCE DURR DURR!!!1111
RDNA4 confirmed as WORSE than my 6900XT LOLLERCAUST:
As Andy reported a couple of days ago, AMD recently confirmed rumours that RDNA 4 will not target the high end. Instead, AMD wants the new GPUs to be affordable for millions of gamers, not just "people who can afford Porsches and Ferraris".
and no one uses usb 4 for anything. literally has nothing to do with raising my steel nomad score. LOL@ you thinking usb ports are relevant in any way whatsoever to this discussion - this thread is literally a thread about gaming PCs LMAO IDIOT
CPU BUS WIDTH AND USB 4 LITERALLY HAVE NO BEARING ON GAMING PERFORMANCE IDIOT. even pcie4 only has tiny increases in fps for anything but 4090-tier cards vis a vis pcie3. lmao@ you slowly making an even bigger fool out of yourself ITT.
Date: October 9th, 2024 11:51 PM Author: talking vibrant corner
AMD is det, but so is Nvidia. 128gb UNIFIED memory is 50% more than you get on a $25,000 H100. It's slower than a dedicated GPU at running LLMs but the difference can be measured in seconds:
If I can't sell this beast, I will wait 3-5 years before upgrading. AMD not competing with 5090 and Battlemage/Celestial targeting low+midrange so I'm happy with the 6900XTs I stocked up on.
QHD and higher it beats both, so basically if you are upgrading from 2 gens before, it MIGHT be worth it assuming youre targeting a midrange card. not too shabby actually.
cumskins, as usual, bragging about splurging $15,000 on a system that will be worth maybe $1000 5 years from now
diamond dallas chad did the same when he spent $10000 on some SLI setup back in 2015 or something and my $600 system i built last year outperformed it lmao
you basically have zero reason to buy a halo card ever now - just contributing to chink bank accounts. obviously retards like TMF will scream NO YOU CANT AFFORD THE 5090 LOLLOLOLOL when in reality its like trying to "troll" someone for not buying $5000 balenciaga shoes. just all-around dumb