Date: February 10th, 2015 5:01 AM Author: Costumed Center Sound Barrier
To be fair,
Mountaindood was a great example of this phenomenon. Superficially, he seemed like a pretty good guy and a solid poster... until one day you step back for a minute and realize that he's a legit, hardcore, 100% serious SonicYouth defender. Not just a defender, an active rabid fanboi who constantly brought him up apropos of nothing and thought he was the best thing to ever happen to XO and his victims kind of deserved what they got.
nyuug? Seems like a sweetheart, and of course us old-timers will always have a special fondness for him, and... oh, right, he totally dickrides the hell out of UVT. Basically idolizes him. (Oh, and he's pretty damn fond of Sonic, too, just FYI.)
twist is on to something--I don't know if it's an Asian guy thing, an XO thing, or an Asian-guys-on-XO thing, but shit just starts to get weird after awhile man. Like one minute you're just two frogs sitting in a nice pot of cool water shooting the shit, and the next minute your skin is coming off as the steam bubbles explode and burn you to death while your fellow frog is still chilling, sitting there smiling and talking about how honestly if you THINK about it, outing isn't really *that* bad, and Sonic was actually one of the best things that ever happened to this board, and it's not that weird to post a 100-photo collage of random women to prove that Asian guys definitely get laid just as much as anyone else, and as your brain shuts down you're just left wondering how the fuck all of this insanity snuck up on you without you noticing the incremental shifts and it's awful man.
and while i do think SY was a hilarious poster i have never said he was "one of the best things that ever happened to this board". in fact, i have admitted on many occasions that this board was unreadable due to his spamming
people on xoxo really like to misrepresent the shit that i say (and never actually link to provide proof for their claims) and it is annoying. come on tbf, if you are going to engage in character assassination at least back up your claims.
Date: February 10th, 2015 5:15 AM Author: Costumed Center Sound Barrier
To be fair,
I didn't say that I have observed you defending outing (at least not directly). I said that I observed Mountaindood do that in the context of his idolization of SonicYouth.
Think of it like this: if Sonic was Hitler, then Mountaindood was a straight up card-carrying Neo Nazi. The friendliest Neo Nazi you ever met, but there it is. You strike me as more of a casual, "I'm not saying Hitler was right about everything, but..." kind of bro. You're not going to meetings, but if you're honest with yourself, it kind of makes you smile to think that someone still is.
no. your last paragraph clearly insinuates that all asian posters are weird d00ds by lumping all of us in one group:
"twist is on to something--I don't know if it's an Asian guy thing, an XO thing, or an Asian-guys-on-XO thing, but shit just starts to get weird after awhile man. ...outing isn't really *that* bad [mountaind00d], and Sonic was actually one of the best things that ever happened to this board [mountaind00d?], and it's not that weird to post a 100-photo collage of random women to prove that Asian guys definitely get laid just as much as anyone else [nyuug], and as your brain shuts down you're just left wondering how the fuck all of this insanity snuck up on you without you noticing the incremental shifts and it's awful man."
i am fucking calling you out, tbf. man up to what you did.
Date: February 10th, 2015 5:24 AM Author: Costumed Center Sound Barrier
To be fair,
I'm observing a pattern brother, and if you actually read that paragraph in the context of this thread--i.e., with the limitations that I clearly spelled out in the title and in my responses below--you would see that I'm not lumping every single Asian male poster together. I'm speaking about a fairly distinct subgroup of Asian male posters, of which you happen to be a prominent long-time member.
But as is your wont, you are defensive as FUCK about this topic. Because on XO, you're either pro-Asian (by which I mean you fall in the Sonic Youth/Chung/UVT camp, or else slot into their fanboi brigade), or you're anti-Asian. You're either with us or against us, right? Because WGWAG isn't just some friendly internet bullshit, it's an IRL battle cry.
Date: February 10th, 2015 5:34 AM Author: Costumed Center Sound Barrier
To be fair,
Who the fuck (other than legitimately psycho pumos) ever defends any of the posters that you just named? Seriously, list the recognized, respected, regular posters who go around saying things like "but seriously though if you think about it Peter North was a pretty awesome guy!" All of those faggots are pretty much universally hated and everyone who matters acknowledges that all of them were a terrible blight on this bort.
But even years later, SonicYouth still has his weird little fanclub--and surprise, surprise, the vocal membership is almost entirely compromised of "cool" Asian XO bros. You can pretend that you don't notice that, but the rest of us are under no obligation to indulge your willful blindness.
I have to admit that I got a hearty chuckle out of you of all people telling me to "leave race out of this" (but only when it's convenient for you, of course). Brother, I am telling you that you should try to back up and get some perspective on this issue. You need it.
Date: February 10th, 2015 5:38 AM Author: Costumed Center Sound Barrier
To be fair,
I'm not burying them because I haven't personally witnessed either of them pulling this shit, but I would not be surprised to hear that Le Tigre falls into this mold as well. I would be surprised to hear that Earl acts like this.
i am not losing any sleep over sonicyouths banning, so stop acting like i am part of his "fanclub".
second, you keep on saying "self-styled cool" asian bros. what do you even mean by that? that i go around saying i am cool? lol, because i dont. do any other asian posters? a very weird insinuation.
and you are right that i talk about race, but i dont make correlations between the race of XOXO posters and the supposed qualities they share, i talk about race in an off-board context - WGWAG and AGWWG.
you are being dishonest as fuuuuuuuck ITT, tbf. i like you, but you are displaying tiny pink reasoning skills ITT.
Date: February 10th, 2015 5:52 AM Author: Costumed Center Sound Barrier
To be fair,
"I'm not losing any sleep over sonicyouths banning"
Gee, what a powerful and unequivocal denouncement of one of the most insiduous and corrosive figures in bort history. Where did I possibly get the idea that you kind of like him quite a bit?
"second, you keep on saying 'self-styled cool' asian bros. what do you even mean by that? that i go around saying i am cool? lol, because i dont."
I don't want to argue with you about this man because if you can't even see (or admit) this much, it's just not worth it. You literally posted a thread one month ago in which you created a photo collage of the 100 girls that you have banged in the last 5 years to prove to XO that you are a stud and Asian guys can get that pussy. I don't know what else to say here, but I think most posters will know exactly what I mean when I say you're a self-styled "cool" Asian bro on XO.
"and you are right that i talk about race, but i dont make correlations between the race of XOXO posters and the supposed qualities they share, i talk about race in an off-board context - WGWAG and AGWWG."
"Gee, what a powerful and unequivocal denouncement of one of the most insiduous and corrosive figures in bort history. Where did I possibly get the idea that you kind of like him quite a bit?"
you are admitting that you were wrong in thinking i wish he were unbanned or part of some "sonicyouth fan club". ok.
"I don't want to argue with you about this man because if you can't even see (or admit) this much, it's just not worth it. You literally posted a thread one month ago in which you created a photo collage of the 100 girls that you have banged in the last 5 years to prove to XO that you (and Asian guys more generally) are a stud now. I don't know what else to say."
i posted the photos - after a 5 year hiatus, mind you - in response to the dozens of NOWAG trolls who said (and still say) asian guys don't get laid, not to prove that i am "cool".
"OK man. Sure, whatever you say."
ill take that as agreement. you disappointed me ITT, d00d.
Date: February 10th, 2015 6:05 AM Author: Costumed Center Sound Barrier
To be fair,
Considered in the context of the terrible and destructive shit that SonicYouth pulled on this board for years on end, grudgingly acknowledging that he probably deserved to get banned and his banning doesn't actively keep you up at night is such an astonishing underreaction that it kind of says everything that needs to be said about your feelings for him (although of course you have also gone on the record many times before talking about how you actually liked Sonic, thought he was hilarious, thought he added something to the bort, etc.)
"i posted the photos in response to the dozens of NOWAG trolls who said (and still say) asian guys don't get laid, not to prove that i am "cool"."
Lol brother I'm not sure if this is aspie schtick or not but I'm going to assume that it is and just move on.
IIRC, sy was not banned for spamming the board, he was banned bc he fucked with earls (or someone elses) irl
that is not cool. but when i say "i miss him" i am talking about his rabid, over the top angry asian man persona. he didnt give a fuck about what anyone here thought about him. hell, he hated ME bitterly, too. uvt is over the top angry too and i think uvt is hilarious for that reason as well.
the only issue i have with this thread is that you are making it sound like i have some weird mental issues that i share with SY simply bc we happen to be asian. and that is just not cool.
Date: February 10th, 2015 6:26 AM Author: Costumed Center Sound Barrier
To be fair,
You mean the same "rabid, over the top angry asian man persona" that was on display when he literally stalked a poaster in real life, hid in a bush outside of a restaurant for several hours, and took clandestine photographs of this total stranger and his unsuspecting date through the window so that he could mail them to this poor bastard and scare the shit out of him... as payback for committing the unforgivable sin of posting some racist trollbait about Asians on a random internet message board? How hilariously "over the top"!
Just checking since I want to make sure we're on the same page before we continue our discussion of the loveable side of SonicYouth's charming "persona".
yes he fucked with peoples IRL and that is not cool. i have stated this many times already ITT.
however, by making this thread you are being very cunty. lets say there were some white posters who said ak47 and pauliewalnuts are hilarious. i wouldnt go around making threads about them insinuating "white d00ds/white d00ds on xoxo: weird d00ds?" bc that would be just plain silly. well, thats exactly what you are doing ITT.
what mountain dood has said is what he has said. what i have said is what i have said. we are two different posters and i dont go around singing the praises of sonicyouth so, no, i dont have to talk to him for shit. about SY, anyways (i love you mountaind00d)
this little asian witch hunt of yours is lame as hell, d00d.
Date: February 10th, 2015 6:52 AM Author: vibrant aqua candlestick maker skinny woman
don't feel you need to say anything because tbf said you have to.
that's not what i did. i independently changed my mind (a long time ago, due to living irl). and i dont mind admitting i was wrong before, in what i had said on this board many times ago way back when.
Date: February 10th, 2015 6:58 AM Author: frozen self-centered parlour foreskin
bro, i think it's good that you recognize that you have outgrown some of your older posts.
but i honestly don't think it's necessary for anyone to apologize for something he/she said on xoxo a number of years ago. there is a lot of stuff that i posted before that i wouldn't post now, but if it happened, it happened. shit happens.
this entire thread is basically like that inquest scene in the godfather where michael has to report to the senatord00d, except the senatord00d here is tbf and i am michael corleone trying to clear my name. mix one part cunt and 2 parts weird guiltripping and you have this thread. no one should be guiltripped into doing shit.
i think sonic may have threatened tbf (or a person he holds dear) back in the day, which is why he is coming out very vehemently against him ITT. i might be wrong through, who knows. i just had no idea tbf could be this catty.
i have been posting on xoxo since 2007. after eight years - EIGHT FUCKING YEARS - of posting i have NEVER created a thread for the purposes of character assassination:
sure, ill shittalk about individual posters e.g. pu is madd as fuuuuck, bubba sparxxx is a little man, mario maserati is jelly...but i have never made a thread to try and make other posters look bad. just click the link: my record speaks for itself.
TWO BEE FUR ITT is just being one massively insufferable cunt.
a lot has changed on xoxo, my friend. lots more pumos. and angry pumos.
people are connecting me to d00ds i have nothing to do with e.g. bubba sparxxx starting up this new thing saying i am chung? lmfao. obviously other things havent changed. :)
ragnus created it to track all the pumos that have proliferated since i went on hiatus in 2009, and thank god we have it so people can set the record straight and actually defend themselves from shitty posters. also, you can click on "aliases" after searching a poster to see their other monikers (as you can see, i have none).
Date: February 10th, 2015 7:42 AM Author: vibrant aqua candlestick maker skinny woman
don't worry about defending yourself from every poster on here. i certainly don't, now. it's not like it's some real important thing
i just felt i should respond to tbf because i know who he is and why he said what he did about me, which i felt was chillingly right, given what i was like back then
this one was different because tbf is a veteran of the XOXO game so his coming out and trying to make me into some card-carrying sonicyouth fanboy surprised me. for the record, i respect his many sWEET threads and contributions to this board, but you should call him out on his apparently cunty and slightly racist tendencies.
do you even fucking post anymore? i havent seen you around in ages outside this thread.
Date: February 10th, 2015 7:27 AM Author: frozen self-centered parlour foreskin
tbf has always been super invested into interpersonal board drama, and attacking the characters on the board with his screeds, etc.
i think i may have done some of that in the past, but these days, i would rather just post about Japanese girls, Asia, etc. i just don't care that much about the interpersonal rivalries and shit.
it's kind of unfortunate, because TBF is capable of posting really good stuff, like his jigsaw Halloween posts.
Date: February 10th, 2015 7:44 AM Author: vibrant aqua candlestick maker skinny woman
maybe it would be healthier for you not to post here. its not real. its not as if theres a real thing here you have to defend or people will be deluded and there will be consequences.
Date: February 10th, 2015 8:22 AM Author: frozen self-centered parlour foreskin
i'm not too invested in the board these days, so i think i can shrug off the negativity. but true, if it's affecting me negatively in a real way, i'll just stop.
Date: February 10th, 2015 12:24 PM Author: tan box office laser beams
lol. hilarious. pot calling the kettle black? do you call "the past" something you've done w/i the last month...cuz you started no fewer than 3 threads about me w/i the last month, not to mention however many threads you came in to attack me that you did not start:
i'd say something like that is way below what you usually do, uvt, which is just the usual calling me ugly, cunt etc.
so yeah, you might want to check your own posting history because you yet again post a delusional re-write of your m.o. on here. back in your college days, you were not like this and i actually laugh at some threads where OTR/grace kelly was making absurd claims about race and you didn't even get angry. now it's full out unhinged uvt in every single thread. i guess when life did not turn out the way you think it would, you went off the deep end.
Date: February 10th, 2015 5:16 AM Author: Costumed Center Sound Barrier
To be fair,
That's true, and I didn't mean to cast aspersions on all XO Asian bros. I guess I wouldn't necessarily say that those guys were "cool" Asian bros in the same consciously self-styled way that Mountaindood and nyuug are; hence my thread title. Which isn't to say they weren't cool guys in real life--I'm speaking more to a certain "chill" kind of XO persona.
It would be like if one day, diesel just started casually talking about Persian pride a little bit more and that was different but cool I guess and anyway whatever and then over the course of a few months he slowly got into the Muslim thing a little bit more and was more vocal about that stuff but he was otherwise still a chill "kooky" kind of bro so it was fine and then you fast forward six more months and he's seriously talking about how ISIS actually makes a whole lot of sense if you really think about it but he's still a chill bro and lol oh man that Tinder MILF from the other night but seriously though just FYI infidels are going to burn and there's nothing wrong with killing them because Allah is fine with it but lol oh man want to see a hair pic but seriously fuck Christians I am dead serious I can't wait to see Europe burn to the ground but man remember how awesome it was to ride bikes around the park back when we were like 11?
It's just a really weird and schizophrenic vibe. And the creepiest part is that after you're around it for long enough it can almost start to seem normal unless you take a step back and force yourself to consider just how fucking insane it really is.
Date: February 10th, 2015 6:09 AM Author: frozen self-centered parlour foreskin
maybe, maybe not. but white posters trying to police what non white posters can or cannot say is obviously not flame.
i wasn't really active when SY was around, but i definitely appreciate that he posted about agwwg sluts and shit. it's ok for people to appreciate some parts of what SY did.
the attempt to throw mountaindood, etc. under the bus just because he was sympathetic toward SY is just another way to bully non-white posters into acting in a way that's complacent to white racists.
for instance, twist, why do i not see you calling out chalmers on his racist posts? also, I'm seriously worried about your mental health these days.
Date: February 10th, 2015 6:12 AM Author: Costumed Center Sound Barrier
To be fair,
"maybe, maybe not. but white posters trying to police what non white posters can or cannot say is obviously not flame."
First, who ever said I'm white? And second, what the fuck kind of faggot SJW speak is this? Check your privilege brother.
"i wasn't really active when SY was around, but i definitely appreciate that he posted about agwwg sluts and shit."
In other words, you admit that you like Sonic too? Well I'm shocked.
"the attempt to throw mountaindood, etc. under the bus just because he was sympathetic toward SY is just another way to bully non-white posters into acting in a way that's complacent to white racists."
You are mentally ill.
"for instance, twist, why do i not see you calling out chalmers on his racist posts? also, I'm seriously worried about your mental health these days."
Are you suggesting that I run the twist account now, or are you just randomly calling out twist in your ostensible response to my OP?
Date: February 10th, 2015 6:14 AM Author: angry pontificating pit milk
no you aren't. i don't think for a second that you have any feeling for any other poster here that could be thought of as "worry".
i have called chalmers out for nowag trolling etc. both on board and in private. that said, he's never said anything like, for instance, "tpds should be killed".
also LOLing at the SJW-style "police the words of non-white posters". where'd you get this shit? gawker?
Date: February 10th, 2015 6:17 AM Author: Sepia soul-stirring location
dude i really don't understand why nowag is "problematic and not ok" on a board with uvt et al. even your good friends askav and steez do it, but i guess it's funny when they talk about it
Date: February 10th, 2015 6:20 AM Author: frozen self-centered parlour foreskin
naw bro, i'm don't care about the likes of chalmers, because he has always been mentally ill. but you were a pretty normal and chill dood a couple of years back, but now you seem to not be at a good place mental health wise at all. that's pretty sad to me, even as a bystander.
sorry, it's true though. white people get really agitated because they think they can control what minorities say or think. just for the reason alone, i think speech like "killing all tpds" have merit to normalize things that are traditionally thought of as "beyond the pale".
Date: February 10th, 2015 6:26 AM Author: angry pontificating pit milk
in this post you say 1. you want to normalize threats of murder based on race, and this is meritorious; and 2. *I* am "not . . . at a good place mental health wise"
let's be fucking real
your fake concern is a symptom of your sociopathy, and the fact that it is completely inapt in this situation is a symptom of, idk, your general social ineptitude
Date: February 10th, 2015 6:20 AM Author: Excitant boltzmann
i learned very early on growing up around boston that if you fucked with one asian dude the rest come out of the woodwork to defend him. no different here on xo
Date: February 10th, 2015 6:28 AM Author: Costumed Center Sound Barrier
To be fair,
Brother I have no idea if this is really you or not but I want to believe man, I always liked you and it would make me happy to know that you have seen the light and repented on this point.
Date: February 10th, 2015 6:32 AM Author: vibrant aqua candlestick maker skinny woman
the thought process literally is exactly like what you said. slow descent from something kind of edgy in a weird way to something actually really sick. which is what it always seems to be, depending on the mania
Date: February 10th, 2015 6:33 AM Author: Costumed Center Sound Barrier
To be fair,
Brother I choose to believe this is you and you have made my day, ty. I wish you only the best and I am glad to see that you are both still with us and in a better mental place. Godspeed friend.
Date: February 10th, 2015 6:39 AM Author: vibrant aqua candlestick maker skinny woman
thanks tbf. i think this post and this whole discussion actually is a good reminder that something is off/wrong about the way asian guys are brought up/educated/socialized (including culture, how that responds to genetics, and other un-pc stuff etc) in western societies (eastern too obviously, but it's a different set of problems there).
its a bad mix and leads to crappy shit happening in life. more than can be just coincidence i think.
there are a few common responses, one of which is the oh lol, it doesnt matter to me, im ok despite it (which may be the healthiest way to do it), and one other is the militant PUA thing compensating in the other direction. the problem is some kind of deeper solution can't be found because it's not considered something ok to talk about in polite society
Date: February 10th, 2015 6:35 AM Author: angry pontificating pit milk
this place is an echo chamber subject to some really insane enclave effects. i'm sure there are other kinds of slow descents. i mean look at me. 6 years ago i was a rank and file liberal on here. 3 years ago i made fun of women because they get aroused watching bonobo monkeys. now i irl ask women if they really think active discrimination the sciences is a better explanatory device than gender-differentiated skill sets. you just watch yourself go nuts
Date: February 10th, 2015 6:50 AM Author: Sepia soul-stirring location
ok. they do nice nowag trollling aimed at asians generally and i do mean nowag trolling targeted in particular at folks who have been assholes to me here. that's probably actually a fairly accurate description
Date: February 10th, 2015 6:41 AM Author: vibrant aqua candlestick maker skinny woman
yeah real life cultures are also echo chambers and being in this different echo chamber can show the idiocy of the irl echo chamber, but it doesnt mean the xo echo chamber is truthful
Date: February 10th, 2015 6:54 AM Author: frozen self-centered parlour foreskin
twist, you really should take a step back and look at some of your older posts and your recent posts.
some of my older posts are definitely cringeworthy to read now, but i don't think my mental state has deteriorated over the years, quite the opposite. i'm at a much better place now than certain periods in the past. i used to get into really involved flamewars on xoxo, but now i can definitely just take it or leave it.
you, on the other hand, are one of the few people that have *clearly* deteriorated in terms of mental state over the years. i understand that you think i'm saying this to be mean, just take it for what it is.
also, i think xoxo is a vice and you need a certain level of mental resistance to shrug off the negative effects. I'm honestly not sure if you are mentally well enough to do that right now, just observing some of your recent postings.
Date: February 10th, 2015 6:35 AM Author: vibrant aqua candlestick maker skinny woman
i cant really reconstruct what i was thinking or feeling back then, but it was something i thought was funny and then started to become attached to. like sonic youth was a beleagured college basketball coach that needed defending or remembering or something stupid like that
Date: February 10th, 2015 6:47 AM Author: Multi-colored embarrassed to the bone station
no one truly cool still posts on xo. everyone here is lame as fuck. the coolest xo poasters were still fucking high school dorks and you just know it. im talking about earl. also azn.
Date: February 10th, 2015 10:02 AM Author: hilarious opaque brethren public bath
1. LJL @ TBF and his dogshit threads that no one reads
2. I've said it before, nyuug is clearly insecure (especially in the presence of BAF alpha Marathis), but harmless. He doesn't have the same hate in his heart that UVT has, and at the end of the day, how hard is it really to swat a fly from time to time?
3. Twist is a good dood and any of his haters can come at me (none of u dorks will EVER get his pics, u mad about this, doobs?)
LJL at TBF's dishonest lies. yea man all the azns even REMEMBER sonic youth these days, let alone CHERISH HIS MEMORY. (or is this the retarded theory that sonic = JBD? b/c JBD was hilarious)