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So are long-term fasts flame or CR?

That Harper's article inspired me and I haven't eaten anythi...
Heady amethyst theatre boltzmann
  03/18/15
link to harper's? Intermittent fasting has gotten a lot of g...
Talented striped hyena
  03/18/15
It's been posted a couple times on XO recently, which is how...
Heady amethyst theatre boltzmann
  03/18/15
it's legit, but most people lack the willpower to do it for ...
flesh goyim space
  03/18/15
At 5'11 and 210 (since fat fucks all under report) your BMI ...
Disturbing Field
  03/18/15
The American obesity rate for men is over 32%, so I'd say be...
Heady amethyst theatre boltzmann
  03/18/15
Until your BMI is under 24 you are a whale, not a human. Get...
Disturbing Field
  03/18/15
Well, that is motivation, I suppose.
Heady amethyst theatre boltzmann
  03/18/15
ur body/metabolism has an equilibrium point=K, distortions o...
Brussels Sprout (Apropos of the Wet Snow)
  03/18/15
They purify you; hone your thoughts; crystallize your motiva...
NeumannMorgenste
  03/18/15
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  03/18/15
lol 180
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  03/31/15
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  04/06/15
I am fucking finished
Arousing party of the first part
  05/16/15
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misanthropic lettuce bawdyhouse
  07/22/15
how are you faring brother? do you only drink water i take i...
comical wagecucks
  03/18/15
Well, I basically started on Wednesday after eating a full c...
Heady amethyst theatre boltzmann
  03/18/15
Wow this sounds like the most retarded diet of all time ...
cracking flickering indian lodge
  03/18/15
I don't think he's lifting and trying to put on muscle or an...
Thirsty theater stage potus
  03/18/15
Does it really matter if I'm only eating 3k calories a week?
Heady amethyst theatre boltzmann
  03/18/15
If this is your goal: https://alastairgordonwalltowall.fi...
cracking flickering indian lodge
  03/18/15
Beats being a fat. That said, this is mostly just my plan...
Heady amethyst theatre boltzmann
  03/18/15
This is unsustainable and flame. Zero percent chance you'...
cracking flickering indian lodge
  03/18/15
Well duh it isn't sustainable. I'm using it to lose weight, ...
Heady amethyst theatre boltzmann
  03/18/15
You never did this hth.com/weakflamebrej.jpeg
cracking flickering indian lodge
  03/18/15
depends on your genetics, metabolism, and current activity l...
Wild friendly grandma
  03/18/15
Could you elaborate on who it's really unhealthy for? I doub...
Heady amethyst theatre boltzmann
  03/18/15
Bump for any MFEs in the day crew.
Heady amethyst theatre boltzmann
  03/18/15
based on my knowledge there are two schools here: intermitte...
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  03/18/15
I did that stupid Master Cleanse lemonade diet 12 years ago ...
Passionate Sex Offender
  03/18/15
Why was it stupid then?
maniacal violent plaza son of senegal
  03/20/15
cq
comical wagecucks
  03/24/15
You shouldn't go much longer than about 36 hours. Your body ...
Stirring blue gas station
  03/18/15
Can you explain more not eating after workout? I thought tra...
charcoal ticket booth alpha
  03/24/15
After working out (heavy weights/low-moderate rep) your body...
Stirring blue gas station
  05/16/15
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NeumannMorgenste
  03/20/15
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NeumannMorgenste
  03/24/15
I'll let you know in 7 - 10 days.
maniacal violent plaza son of senegal
  03/24/15
This is why I bumped this. Please document this powerful tr...
NeumannMorgenste
  03/24/15
Have you done this or are you considering it? Or are you ju...
maniacal violent plaza son of senegal
  03/24/15
1. I have not done this. 2. I am not ruthlessly mocking you...
NeumannMorgenste
  03/24/15
Cool, bro. I figure I've done worse things to my body. How ...
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  03/24/15
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NeumannMorgenste
  03/24/15
(RTG, collapsed in corner of office, hand outstretched towar...
NeumannMorgenste
  04/06/15
Hey man, I lasted about 3.5 days and then switched over to i...
maniacal violent plaza son of senegal
  04/06/15
TYTY
NeumannMorgenste
  04/06/15
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NeumannMorgenste
  03/31/15
ITT not a lot of Jainbros
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  04/06/15
I think if they go too long its called starving to death, wh...
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  04/06/15
I'm not sure if this is true.
NeumannMorgenste
  04/06/15
To be fair, I'm not a doctor.
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Date: March 18th, 2015 12:13 AM
Author: Heady amethyst theatre boltzmann

That Harper's article inspired me and I haven't eaten anything for the past three days and only about 3k calories in the past seven. Obviously it appears to be working thus far, but I'm wondering if there are big hazards I should be aware of before I try going a week or more without food. Currently I'm just taking a multivitamin.

I'm not a superfat, btw, only about 5'11 and 200.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27510271)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 12:15 AM
Author: Talented striped hyena

link to harper's? Intermittent fasting has gotten a lot of good press in the last 2-3 years

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27510278)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 12:18 AM
Author: Heady amethyst theatre boltzmann

It's been posted a couple times on XO recently, which is how I found it:

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=forums&srcid=MTY2MDUwODgzNDY5MjQ4OTA0MjUBMDU5MDY5Mzg2MjMzMzAwMTEzMDMBcmxuUmlGVWw4cDhKATAuMQEBdjI

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27510297)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 1:54 AM
Author: flesh goyim space

it's legit, but most people lack the willpower to do it for very long.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27510709)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 11:12 AM
Author: Disturbing Field

At 5'11 and 210 (since fat fucks all under report) your BMI is 29.3 which is borderline obese (BMI >30)

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27511624)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 11:18 AM
Author: Heady amethyst theatre boltzmann

The American obesity rate for men is over 32%, so I'd say beating all of them out is probably enough to say I'm "not a superfat." I ain't fatd00d.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27511663)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 11:24 AM
Author: Disturbing Field

Until your BMI is under 24 you are a whale, not a human. Get there and we'll talk.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27511708)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 11:32 AM
Author: Heady amethyst theatre boltzmann

Well, that is motivation, I suppose.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27511761)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 12:16 AM
Author: Brussels Sprout (Apropos of the Wet Snow)

ur body/metabolism has an equilibrium point=K, distortions of diet to the contrary, u will reach that Konstant,indubitably, k?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27510286)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 12:28 AM
Author: NeumannMorgenste

They purify you; hone your thoughts; crystallize your motivations. Breathe in. Hear the crinkle-crack of your cavity expanding with air. Modern day St. Anthony at your shipyard desk, you. Taste of copper in your mouth; running from your nose. Sputtering cough leaves red flecks against the couragated metal wall. This is good. You feel good. Pure. You hear the rain outside, banging against the tin roof. In the distance, the repulsor cranes carry on their swan ballet, offloading pallets from ships across the thousand worlds.

Sent from my Iridium

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27510334)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 10:53 AM
Author: spectacular sadistic people who are hurt resort



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27511512)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 11:16 AM
Author: Marvelous silver forum

lol 180

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27511653)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 11:37 AM
Author: canary community account



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27511800)



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Date: March 31st, 2015 5:25 PM
Author: Submissive white crotch roast beef



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27589909)



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Date: April 6th, 2015 3:39 PM
Author: splenetic shrine famous landscape painting



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27632898)



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Date: May 16th, 2015 3:01 PM
Author: Arousing party of the first part

I am fucking finished

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27903410)



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Date: July 22nd, 2015 11:37 PM
Author: misanthropic lettuce bawdyhouse



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#28393639)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 1:55 AM
Author: comical wagecucks

how are you faring brother? do you only drink water i take it?

i want to do it too but i am too fucking lacking in willpower

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27510719)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 2:05 AM
Author: Heady amethyst theatre boltzmann

Well, I basically started on Wednesday after eating a full calorie load on Tuesday. I've had a few hiccups but I've been ramping up the intensity pretty fast

-Wednesday I ate 1 chocolate-covered pretzal because there was a box at the office, and that was it

-Thursday I caved a bit while covering a press event and ate a couple cookies

-Friday I ate nothing

-On Saturday I was invited to a St. Patrick's Day party. I was planning in advance to eat at it and pretty much ate normally, probably about 2200 calories

-Since leaving that party on Saturday night I've eaten nothing.

I've only been drinking water, besides one beer and some whisky at the party I went to. It's been easier than I expected but also not a walk in the park, though I hear once you get over the 3-4 day hump it can be a lot easier because hunger mostly goes away. We'll see if I can maek it.

One thing that helps is that in mental terms I think it's easier to simply eat nothing than to rigorously watch what you eat all day.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27510764)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 9:30 AM
Author: cracking flickering indian lodge

Wow this sounds like the most retarded diet of all time

Just do nothing but shitcarbs and alcohol bro

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27511258)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 9:58 AM
Author: Thirsty theater stage potus

I don't think he's lifting and trying to put on muscle or anything breh

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27511310)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 10:10 AM
Author: Heady amethyst theatre boltzmann

Does it really matter if I'm only eating 3k calories a week?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27511344)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 10:22 AM
Author: cracking flickering indian lodge

If this is your goal:

https://alastairgordonwalltowall.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/skinny-pow-2-copy1.jpg

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27511382)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 10:25 AM
Author: Heady amethyst theatre boltzmann

Beats being a fat.

That said, this is mostly just my plan for losing weight. Once it's actually gone, I'll transition to eating a more normal diet.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27511394)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 10:28 AM
Author: cracking flickering indian lodge

This is unsustainable and flame. Zero percent chance you've ever had only 3K calories in any 7 day window since you were an infant hth.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27511412)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 11:06 AM
Author: Heady amethyst theatre boltzmann

Well duh it isn't sustainable. I'm using it to lose weight, not as a permanent shift in diet.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27511590)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 11:18 AM
Author: cracking flickering indian lodge

You never did this hth.com/weakflamebrej.jpeg

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27511661)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 2:03 AM
Author: Wild friendly grandma

depends on your genetics, metabolism, and current activity level.

it's extremely unhealthy for certain segments of the population.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27510751)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 2:09 AM
Author: Heady amethyst theatre boltzmann

Could you elaborate on who it's really unhealthy for? I doubt it's me as I'm an extremely generic subset of the population rather than an exceptional one, but obviously I should confirm this.

My genetics and metabolism are pretty much the norm for American 20-something doods, I imagine. I'm not as active as I should be but I do enough walking to not be a super couch potato. Obviously I should be lifting, but I'm currently not.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27510787)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 9:14 AM
Author: Heady amethyst theatre boltzmann

Bump for any MFEs in the day crew.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27511222)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 10:23 AM
Author: hairless gay school cafeteria

based on my knowledge there are two schools here: intermittent fasting (ie 5/2 diet) and long term ultra low calorie lifestyles.

imho, something like the 5/2 works because as you said it's fairly simple to follow and you still get to eat "normally" for the majority of the time

those who push the ultra low cal lifestyle do so for the supposed longevity benefits as much as (if not more so than) any weight loss consequences.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27511386)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 11:33 AM
Author: Passionate Sex Offender

I did that stupid Master Cleanse lemonade diet 12 years ago and went from 181 to 159 in 12 days. First three days kind of sucked, but after that I stopped caring about food. Have to admit I felt pretty amazing afterwards and it killed my appetite for junk/fast food and booze for a few months.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27511763)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 1:53 PM
Author: maniacal violent plaza son of senegal

Why was it stupid then?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27525303)



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Date: March 24th, 2015 8:26 PM
Author: comical wagecucks

cq

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27549128)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 1:03 PM
Author: Stirring blue gas station

You shouldn't go much longer than about 36 hours. Your body starts to break down muscle about 48 hours after digesting your last meal. Your testosterone and hgh levels go through the roof at about 16 hours of no food, stay that way until about 30 hours (HGH goes up 2000% after 24 hours), and start to tank about 36 hours in. IF also keeps insulin low.

IF is way better. Most of the benefits from fasting kick in at about 16-20 hours. Not much of a point going beyond 24 from a physiological viewpoint. But no harm until about 36.

If you do IF though, you need to keep a consistent eating window or you'll fuck with your hormones and circadian rhythm. Also not a good idea to fast without medical supervision if you're diabetic. Also, men can fast longer than women (it's a hormonal thing).

Lean gains is a 16/8; you can also do a 20/4 or even a 23/1; 5/2 is okay. I do one meal on a cut/maintenance and two meals on a bulk. There's also the warrior diet but that's not "true" IF.

Also, don't eat post-workout. Ride that HGH wave. When you eat, insulin goes up which brings down HGH and Test.



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27512205)



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Date: March 24th, 2015 9:54 PM
Author: charcoal ticket booth alpha

Can you explain more not eating after workout? I thought traditional idea was you wanted that post workout feed with insulin spike to pack nutrients into muscles.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27549665)



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Date: May 16th, 2015 3:04 PM
Author: Stirring blue gas station

After working out (heavy weights/low-moderate rep) your body releases HGH and Testosterone. When you eat, your body releases insulin. When Insulin goes up HGH/Test tanks, and the opposite. So you want to ride that wave for about 4-5 hours post workout. You'll still get the insulin spike benefit (whatever your first meal is up to 24 hours post-workout).

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27903427)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 1:05 PM
Author: NeumannMorgenste



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27524920)



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Date: March 24th, 2015 8:25 PM
Author: NeumannMorgenste



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27549119)



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Date: March 24th, 2015 8:27 PM
Author: maniacal violent plaza son of senegal

I'll let you know in 7 - 10 days.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27549133)



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Date: March 24th, 2015 8:28 PM
Author: NeumannMorgenste

This is why I bumped this. Please document this powerful transformation. TINLA

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27549138)



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Date: March 24th, 2015 8:40 PM
Author: maniacal violent plaza son of senegal

Have you done this or are you considering it? Or are you just ruthlessly mocking me?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27549213)



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Date: March 24th, 2015 8:43 PM
Author: NeumannMorgenste

1. I have not done this. 2. I am not ruthlessly mocking you--nor would I ever ruthlessly mock you. I love the idea of one of our brothers undertaking an extended fast and documenting the effects. It's poignant in its own way.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27549239)



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Date: March 24th, 2015 8:50 PM
Author: maniacal violent plaza son of senegal

Cool, bro. I figure I've done worse things to my body. How bad could it be? I'll update my progress.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27549281)



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Date: March 24th, 2015 8:51 PM
Author: NeumannMorgenste



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27549295)



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Date: April 6th, 2015 3:35 PM
Author: NeumannMorgenste

(RTG, collapsed in corner of office, hand outstretched toward computer on desk against far wall, one last hoap for logging in)

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27632869)



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Date: April 6th, 2015 3:37 PM
Author: maniacal violent plaza son of senegal

Hey man, I lasted about 3.5 days and then switched over to intermittent fasting. I'm doing full-day eat today, though.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27632881)



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Date: April 6th, 2015 3:38 PM
Author: NeumannMorgenste

TYTY

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27632896)



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Date: March 31st, 2015 5:12 PM
Author: NeumannMorgenste



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27589794)



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Date: April 6th, 2015 3:39 PM
Author: splenetic shrine famous landscape painting

ITT not a lot of Jainbros

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27632904)



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Date: April 6th, 2015 3:44 PM
Author: jet box office

I think if they go too long its called starving to death, which can be fatal.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27632946)



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Date: April 6th, 2015 3:45 PM
Author: NeumannMorgenste

I'm not sure if this is true.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27632958)



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Date: April 6th, 2015 3:48 PM
Author: jet box office

To be fair, I'm not a doctor.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27632987)



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Date: April 6th, 2015 3:48 PM
Author: NeumannMorgenste



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Date: April 13th, 2015 7:50 PM
Author: Out-of-control iridescent house cumskin



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Date: April 13th, 2015 7:48 PM
Author: NeumannMorgenste



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Date: April 13th, 2015 8:25 PM
Author: Swollen place of business rigor



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Date: May 16th, 2015 2:47 PM
Author: NeumannMorgenste



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Date: May 16th, 2015 2:57 PM
Author: comical wagecucks



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Date: July 22nd, 2015 11:35 PM
Author: NeumannMorgenste



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