Date: April 6th, 2015 2:51 PM Author: electric mahogany house
Back has to be straight, hips don't move, squeeze glutes, chest up, eyes straight forward, press over and move your head slightly as the bar crosses in order not to hit yourself, full rom, core should be supporting you.
Most people bend their back, have their neck back looking up, and press like some weird combo of an OP and incline bench press.
Date: April 6th, 2015 2:53 PM Author: zombie-like well-lubricated menage
My shoulders somehow got inflexible as fuck over the past 8 years. Makes a good OHP difficult for me.
To illustrate, I cannot overhead squat even with an empty bar. Doing it with a broomstick, the stick is 45 degrees out in front of me. That's the highest I can get it.
Date: April 6th, 2015 3:02 PM Author: irradiated goal in life
start with whatever is reasonably comfortable (but not too easy) and work from there. a deep tissue/sports massage might also help loosen up the muscles, but that's optional.
Date: April 6th, 2015 2:56 PM Author: electric mahogany house
Don't hurt yourself doing it. If your 35 the OHP machine might be CR. My anti-machine fanaticism is directed at guys my age or people who don't have injuries.
Nigga you damn well know that millions of lil niggas do low bar squats and bench and can still lift they arms over they heads.
You need to foam roll your shoulders and upper back and do shoulder dislocates with a towel or broomstick. Maybe roll your chest too since a tight chest can restrict shoulder movement.
Date: April 6th, 2015 2:48 PM Author: henna coldplay fan business firm
I always LOL when I see some twinklet doing 400 lb quarter squats. I'm not strong by any standard but my 170 lb squats have impeccable form and it shows in the gains.
yeah my lifts are pretty low bc i am noob but i'm not embarrassed to put up lower weights if it means i can keep good form and work the muscle right. i think people get self-conscious or feel like they have something to prove in the gym
Date: April 6th, 2015 2:53 PM Author: electric mahogany house
Exactly. Try doing 20 squats with perfect form no rest at a moderate weight, you should be dying at about #10 or #11. That said, a majority of my training is low rep high weight since I'm natural.
One time I saw a guy having a rough time of half squats with 225. I thought for sure he was DONE THERE but then he put on another 50lbs and got a spotter and started doing quarter squats. I was LOLing at what that spotter must have been thinking. Then the guy sent for the full three plate squat and was only moving the weight a few inches as the spotter helped.
you couldn't do that without rounding your lower spine though, which defeats the purpose. like i said, ass to grass isn't necessary, but parallel FEELS like it's barely activating all the muscle fibers you wanna work. but again, i've heard this idea parroted before (ie parallel squats are sufficient), so i'm curious if there's a reason
you don't feel your entire leg involved at 90 degrees? you must be a midget. exercise choice is not particularly important - reality is people get impressive leg development without ever squatting
Date: April 6th, 2015 3:24 PM Author: irradiated goal in life
I know squats are considered goat potus, but they are not the best for targeting glutes because so much of the weight is handled by the quads. Deadlifts, goodmornings, single leg DLs and lunges are much better for targeting glutes and hams.
ya it is, i can't wait til i can litter da club with fat stacks of bands. no but really it'll be dope when i can travel as much as i want to. which won't be til 30+
Date: April 7th, 2015 3:34 AM Author: comical azure lodge
"I know squats are considered goat potus, but they are not the best for targeting glutes because so much of the weight is handled by the quads. Deadlifts, goodmornings, single leg DLs and lunges are much better for targeting glutes and hams."
this is total bullshit and i have heard other crossfitters blindly repeat it on several occasions. if you can squat three hundo, you are go to have very good glute development as a matter of necessity. what you are talking about is the fact that squatting with shitty form and for high reps does not build substantial glute bulk, which i agree with. it's still the overall best heavy glute building exercise.
and lolz lolz lolz at the idea that deadlifting is a superior glute developer. i have read most of the gold standard BB manuals and plenty of the new stuff, and none of them agree with this.
the only valid point nestled in here is that knee-collar parallel movements like lunges are probably overlooked, but in terms of having to choose a single exercise to develop your lower body? there is really no choice unless you're a brainwashed crossfitter repeating shit passed around on tumblers and blogs by full blown 'tards.
Date: April 6th, 2015 3:15 PM Author: irradiated goal in life
Yet another study showed that forces on the ACL are reduced as the knee is flexed beyond 60 degrees, and forces on the PCL are reduced as the knee flexes past 120 degrees.
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Squatting below parallel has the additional benefit of significantly increased activation of the gluteal muscles. The deeper you squat, the greater the glute activation. Whether you’re seeking to improve your performance or your appearance, you’re not doing yourself any favors by leaving the glutes out of the picture.
you should run an xo bootcamp where u intimidate flabby lawyers and skinnyfat twinks into LIFTING HEAVY and eating like men. i would gladly pay for this.
you could parade doobs around in his humbler as an example of what will happen to us if we slack off
future societies will find it and think this was considered to be the pinnacle of human form -- a gangly ginger freak with marked ptosis, flattened forehead, sloping underchin, poor muscle tone, and only the most PATHETIC of PISSWYRMS
90% of people do 90% of exercises wrong at your typical mass market gym.
Think about it . . . bench press is one of the easier movements yet how often do you see someone with a proper back arch with 3 points of contact (feet/ass/lats), use leg drive, bar grip so that forearms are perfectly perpendicular to floor and weight is transferred directly to forearms instead of losing strength to bent wrists, etc? It's rare to see someone benching right and even rarer to see good squats and deadlifts.
Let me get this straight . . . the person advocating for heavy compound lifts and strength growth is a twink and not the manlet trying to work on his aesthetics with dumbells? Ok.
Date: April 6th, 2015 10:22 PM Author: diverse kitty cat abode
I do it this way and people have tried to correct me (okay one person tried to correct me); said i'm supposed to give a last push with shoulders or make my grip wider. but no.
I mostly just skip bench anyway because I usually go to the gym alone so I don't reliably have a spotter
Date: April 6th, 2015 3:17 PM Author: translucent 180 background story whorehouse
Pullups probably bother me the most. At least with squat and dl most people are afraid of getting hurt so they have someone check their form. So irritating to hear someone brag about how they can do 20 pullups and they are either doing 1/4 pullups or kipping.
Date: April 6th, 2015 3:21 PM Author: translucent 180 background story whorehouse
That doesn't stop crossfit morons from thinking they can do 20 pullups when they're doing kipping pullups. 20 pullups with correct form and full ROM is hard as shit.
Date: April 6th, 2015 3:43 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy meetinghouse knife
to be fair, the fish flopping shit is specific to the Sport of Crossfit. crossfit really should audit its workouts to get rid of shit like kipping pullups, sumo deadlift high pulls, and pre-fatigued heavy olympic lifts though.
Date: April 6th, 2015 3:32 PM Author: electric mahogany house
I feel for the people who say they do them because they can't do a real pull up, but they should just be doing lat pulldowns and walk off pull ups instead.
Date: April 6th, 2015 7:36 PM Author: Federal Flatulent Locale Electric Furnace
These millennials are doing all sorts of weird shit at my pullup bars and it is pissing me off because I have to wait for them to finish their faggot routines.
Dudes are doing one pullup, then doing like a squat and a pushup, and jumping back on the pullup bars.
Date: April 6th, 2015 7:45 PM Author: Federal Flatulent Locale Electric Furnace
It is fucking annoying because there isn't enough time to jump in. They always come in pairs too. One guy is doing the pullup/squat/pushup deal and his friend is practicing ballet dancing or something.
Date: April 6th, 2015 3:31 PM Author: khaki big new version
Who fucking cares? PROTIP: there is no WRONG way to lift weights just lift it and you get stronger. Lol at 170lb twinks critiquing form you guys are worse than beer snobs. Theyre compound exercises dumbasses if you're not injuring yourself then go bad FORM for big GAINS. Just fucking lift it and who gives a shit what other people are doing in the gym you fuckin creeps quit staring.
Date: April 6th, 2015 3:39 PM Author: khaki big new version
Maybe if you lifted weight and quit doing bitchboy ISO exercises your back wouldn't be so fragile and you wouldn't have to fret so intensely about throwing it out.
it's an article of faith for these fitness cultists. they found the secret to working out on the internet, which makes them feel superior to all the other (bigger) guys in the gym despite their noodle arms and pot bellies
Date: April 6th, 2015 3:46 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy meetinghouse knife
i find the rippetoe bros much more cultish than 'cultfit'. at least crossfitters like crossfit because it improves how they look and feel. rippetoe bros start valuing a big skwat above their original goals for going to the gym.
Date: April 6th, 2015 10:29 PM Author: diverse kitty cat abode
you have a point here. i never had noodle arms or a pot belly but after spack and earl suggested way back in 09/10 that I should buy Starting Strength I was a bit of an elitist rippetoemo for years after; probably still would be if I ever bothered to consistently hit the gym these days.
but even recently I was at the gym with my friend who has been doing compound lifts that differ slightly in form from rippetoe's/what I've been doing for 5 years now; thought about saying something but realized how douchey it would be to tell him he's wrong when he's bigger than I am and works out far, far more consistently
Date: April 6th, 2015 4:29 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy meetinghouse knife
eh, i dont really feel like arguing with you bro. i agree that heavy compounds are the way to go, but there definitely are some rippetoe guys who dont do those upper body lifts, permabulk, seem to only care about their squat/deadlift, and are really elitist about their particular strength training system.
haha, i've posted my pictures. Where are yours? I'm far from a hippy. Most people don't understand contracting their lats. Sorry about your tiny pink SHITbody
Date: April 6th, 2015 4:20 PM Author: khaki big new version
Why did you delete your pics? I never saw them. And honestly I don't really care how big you are if you're a pedantic new wave holistic mind body connection lifting hippy.
Why would I keep them up? you can read the opinions of them in the multiple threads I posted them in.
LOL, sorry, but Arnold, Dave Draper, Columbo, etc. are not "new age" in any way. It's a sad fact most people don't know how to target the muscles they are supposed to be working. Just lifting heavy and heaving shit with your full body is NOT tcr.
Date: April 6th, 2015 5:12 PM Author: carmine stage
Lat pulldown. Always see people sitting straight up, bringing the bar straight up and down, which makes it nearly impossible to get good lat activation.
Date: April 6th, 2015 5:17 PM Author: electric mahogany house
This also shows the problem of mass marketing gyms. People show up so obviously they aren't lazy, but no one shows them how to use the equipment unless you pay an insane amount of money for that PERSONAL TRAINER.
Even with trainers it takes people awhile to fully activate certain muscles. TCR is reduce the weight and do the movement slowly until you feel the full contraction. But nobody wants to look like a pussy and do this.
this. It's a lot of other movements as well. You see this with seated pulley rows as well. Elbows flared, back rounded, biceps and upper back carrying the load. Back muscles are especially hard for people to "feel"
Date: April 6th, 2015 7:57 PM Author: Disturbing newt
whatever you need to tell yourself chief. i lost my v-card to a hotter white girl than you will ever fuck at 15, and i haven't really slowed down since, but good luck with your "hunting."