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Rate Timothy McVeigh's thoughts on Muslims

"When I took a human life, it taught me these were huma...
disrespectful hell
  02/21/17
McVeigh was a liberal terrorist so of course he'd love them.
Aphrodisiac Church Building
  02/21/17
is he channeling JFK "we all breathe the same air"
big drab sound barrier
  02/21/17
It's amazing that this was ever published in Salon. Now they...
Sepia locus
  02/21/17
McVeigh committed his bombings to make up for how we treated...
Aphrodisiac Church Building
  02/21/17
What does liberal mean to you?
disrespectful hell
  02/21/17
If you're trying to trap me with the fact that McVeigh was a...
Aphrodisiac Church Building
  02/21/17
I'm not trying to trap you, dude. I'm asking what it means,...
disrespectful hell
  02/21/17
Liberals fundamentally think differently than conservatives....
Aphrodisiac Church Building
  02/21/17
what about Waco and Ruby Ridge? didn't those play a big rol...
onyx bearded public bath gunner
  02/21/17
Yeah, according to the MEDIA!!!
disrespectful hell
  02/21/17
lawman8 is a retard freeper. if this was 2004 he'd be FWD:FW...
Black Stage
  02/21/17
Waco did too, but on the thought process that is the hallmar...
Aphrodisiac Church Building
  02/21/17
You disappeared for like fifteen minutes, did some googling ...
disrespectful hell
  02/21/17
Nice projecting. Good to know that's how you tackle a tough ...
Aphrodisiac Church Building
  02/21/17
i thought it was over those prepper dudes getting taken out ...
Concupiscible wagecucks locale
  02/21/17
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Flirting property
  02/21/17
Close, but to be more precise: "The government's use of...
Aphrodisiac Church Building
  02/21/17
"The truth is, we all have the same dreams, the same de...
Medicated tan potus pervert
  02/21/17


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Date: February 21st, 2017 10:40 PM
Author: disrespectful hell

"When I took a human life, it taught me these were human beings, even though they speak a different language and have different customs. The truth is, we all have the same dreams, the same desires, the same care for our children and our family. These people were humans, like me, at the core."

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533069&forum_id=2#32673532)



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Date: February 21st, 2017 10:42 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Church Building

McVeigh was a liberal terrorist so of course he'd love them.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533069&forum_id=2#32673545)



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Date: February 21st, 2017 10:42 PM
Author: big drab sound barrier

is he channeling JFK "we all breathe the same air"

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533069&forum_id=2#32673546)



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Date: February 21st, 2017 10:46 PM
Author: Sepia locus

It's amazing that this was ever published in Salon. Now they wouldn't even publish it to debunk it, because it would imply the OK City Bombing, libs favorite extremism example, was associated with Muslims:

Did Timothy McVeigh have Iraqi helpers?

http://www.salon.com/2002/12/02/mcveigh_9/

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533069&forum_id=2#32673565)



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Date: February 21st, 2017 10:48 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Church Building

McVeigh committed his bombings to make up for how we treated Iraq, like a good liberal, so this question isn't terribly unreasonable.

Edit: now that you have edited I understand your point better. Liberals weren't always the total hacks they are today, that's why Salon printed it back then.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533069&forum_id=2#32673580)



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Date: February 21st, 2017 10:49 PM
Author: disrespectful hell

What does liberal mean to you?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533069&forum_id=2#32673585)



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Date: February 21st, 2017 10:51 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Church Building

If you're trying to trap me with the fact that McVeigh was a registered republican, won't work.

His stated motivations for the bombings were decidedly liberal.

Look up what Osama Bin Laden was saying around the time of 9/11. He said we deserved it due to our meddling in the Middle East. I'd say that's a more blunt and extreme version of current mainstream liberal opinion.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533069&forum_id=2#32673595)



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Date: February 21st, 2017 10:53 PM
Author: disrespectful hell

I'm not trying to trap you, dude. I'm asking what it means, to you, to be a liberal.

Is humanism automatically liberal? Is distrust of authority liberal? What makes Timothy McVeigh a liberal?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533069&forum_id=2#32673600)



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Date: February 21st, 2017 11:08 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Church Building

Liberals fundamentally think differently than conservatives.

There are six main "themes" of morality that occur in all cultures: care, fairness, liberty, loyalty, authority, and sanctity.

As an example of how we think differently, take "fairness." Conservatives think of "fairness" as a result in proportion to the effort one puts in. So if someone works very hard (and smart), it is fair for them to be rewarded accordingly. While liberals think about fairness strictly in relation to outcomes. So 20% of school applicants are black so a fair result is 20% of accepted students are black.

Additionally, liberals fundamentally do not care about authority, loyalty, and sanctity, while conservatives care about each of the six themes.

And I'm not just talking out of my ass. Here's a good article on the subject, with an even better book.

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/26/righteous-mind-author-haidt-conservatives-have-bro/

McVeigh was a liberal because he did not respect authority or loyalty to his country in the slightest. Additionally, placing care (humanism) as his primary moral concern, as he clearly did, falls right in line with the typical liberal viewpoint. Studies have demonstrated that care/compassion for the oppressed as the #1 moral criteria is the hallmark of a liberal.



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533069&forum_id=2#32673683)



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Date: February 21st, 2017 10:54 PM
Author: onyx bearded public bath gunner

what about Waco and Ruby Ridge? didn't those play a big role in motivating McVeigh?

the only Iraq stuff i see him discussing is from after he was imprisoned

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533069&forum_id=2#32673610)



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Date: February 21st, 2017 10:55 PM
Author: disrespectful hell

Yeah, according to the MEDIA!!!

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533069&forum_id=2#32673613)



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Date: February 21st, 2017 10:58 PM
Author: Black Stage

lawman8 is a retard freeper. if this was 2004 he'd be FWD:FWD:FWDing e-mails about john kerry's stolen valor

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533069&forum_id=2#32673631)



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Date: February 21st, 2017 11:10 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Church Building

Waco did too, but on the thought process that is the hallmark of liberal thought: care for the oppressed. Liberal McVeigh was furious that our government used gas on women and children that were located inside the compound.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533069&forum_id=2#32673688)



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Date: February 21st, 2017 11:20 PM
Author: disrespectful hell

You disappeared for like fifteen minutes, did some googling and are now back spewing some shit you just read. You're basically regurgitating the article you found here.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533069&forum_id=2#32673760)



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Date: February 21st, 2017 11:23 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Church Building

Nice projecting. Good to know that's how you tackle a tough question.

I read this book and knew exactly where to find this info so I did retrieve it. It destroys your shitty point, so I'm not surprised this is your best response.



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533069&forum_id=2#32673776)



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Date: February 21st, 2017 10:56 PM
Author: Concupiscible wagecucks locale

i thought it was over those prepper dudes getting taken out by the feds.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533069&forum_id=2#32673620)



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Date: February 21st, 2017 11:16 PM
Author: Flirting property



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Date: February 21st, 2017 11:17 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Church Building

Close, but to be more precise: "The government's use of CS gas on women and children angered McVeigh."

A classic liberal viewpoint.

Also, from the Wiki on motivations for the bombing, we get some more liberal thought:

In a 1,200-word essay[104] dated March 1998, from the federal maximum-security prison at Florence, Colorado, McVeigh claimed that the terrorist bombing was "morally equivalent" to U.S. military actions against Iraq and other foreign countries. The handwritten essay, submitted to and published by the alternative national news magazine Media Bypass, was distributed worldwide by The Associated Press on May 29, 1998. This was written in the midst of the 1998 Iraq disarmament crisis and a few months before Operation Desert Fox.

The administration has said that Iraq has no right to stockpile chemical or biological weapons ("weapons of mass destruction") — mainly because they have used them in the past.

Well, if that's the standard by which these matters are decided, then the U.S. is the nation that set the precedent. The U.S. has stockpiled these same weapons (and more) for over 40 years. The U.S. claims this was done for deterrent purposes during its "Cold War" with the Soviet Union. Why, then, it is invalid for Iraq to claim the same reason (deterrence) with respect to Iraq's (real) war with, and the continued threat of, its neighbor Iran?

The administration claims that Iraq has used these weapons in the past. We've all seen the pictures that show a Kurdish woman and child frozen in death from the use of chemical weapons. But, have you ever seen those pictures juxtaposed next to pictures from Hiroshima or Nagasaki?

I suggest that one study the histories of World War I, World War II and other "regional conflicts" that the U.S. has been involved in to familiarize themselves with the use of "weapons of mass destruction."

Remember Dresden? How about Hanoi? Tripoli? Baghdad? What about the big ones — Hiroshima and Nagasaki? (At these two locations, the U.S. killed at least 150,000 non-combatants — mostly women and children — in the blink of an eye. Thousands more took hours, days, weeks or months to die).

If Saddam is such a demon, and people are calling for war crimes charges and trials against him and his nation, why do we not hear the same cry for blood directed at those responsible for even greater amounts of "mass destruction" — like those responsible and involved in dropping bombs on the cities mentioned above?

The truth is, the U.S. has set the standard when it comes to the stockpiling and use of weapons of mass destruction.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533069&forum_id=2#32673735)



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Date: February 21st, 2017 11:01 PM
Author: Medicated tan potus pervert

"The truth is, we all have the same dreams, the same desires, the same care for our children and our family."

Truff, I want nothing more than genital mutilation and slavery for my daughter, and an end-time battle with the infidels in Dabiq. We're clearly all the same.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533069&forum_id=2#32673653)